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16 September 2011

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Russ Steele

George,

We have a Work Force Investment Act failure right here in Nevada County - The Apple Worm Farm. The Butte County PIC was funded through the WFIA. If you will remember the Worm Farm was to produce ten living wage jobs. The money vanished along with the Worm Farm and the jobs.

George Rebane

Absolutely right Russ. None of the lefties want to talk about the worm farm or actually showing any reality of sustainable small farms paying a 'living wage' (the new darling of local progressives). UC Davis is just down the road, and there are plenty of profs there who are expert in running the numbers on what kinds of ag businesses could make a go of it in Nevada County. No one wants to talk to them, because they'd be blown out of the water.

Douglas Keachie

Yup, government can't train anybody, it's impossible for them to succeed, even with the help of Ronald Reagan as a trainer, which is why we lost WWII und jetzt wir sprechen nur Deutsch.

George Rebane

DougK makes an important point here. American military training is comprised of the finest training delivered through the most effective programs in the world, and has been that way since some of the first missteps during the early part of WW2. I have been trained in its programs and have subsequently been an instructor in those same programs. In addition to 'standard' teaching, these programs effectively teach young men (and now women) to think and do with complex equipment in mentally and physically stressful environments. And they are NOTHING like what has been going on in government training programs – both public K-12 schools and adult vocational – since the early 1960s. Darum kennen die heute nicht Englisch oder Deutsch. (The careful reader will note that these adult remedial and vocational programs were the subjects of my critique which stands as posted.)

To these plaudits I would add the after-hours schools on military bases which service members who didn’t finish high school or sought college credits attended. Jo Ann and I had the opportunity to volunteer in such a program while I was on active duty.

Military education is different because it is based totally on meritocracy, defined educational objectives, structured instruction, and testing, testing, testing. All of which is covered by a sane program of record keeping and student performance reporting. Instructors are invited to innovate, and a well-oiled feedback procedure is in place to spread the word about what works better. Peer recognized self-esteem enters the equation only after the student has demonstrated proficiency, until then its best to consider yourself a double dummy and listen up.

Douglas Keachie

And as an example of the connection between the economy and school success, I present you with:

http://www.rgj.com/article/20110914/NEWS02/110914061/Washoe-graduation-rate-increase-linked-economic-recovery-Reno-area?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Local%20News|s

If you have a good infrastructure at home and in society in general, you get better results. I note that in the military, except on the battlefield, nobody is having to concern themselves with a roof over their head, food in the belly, or entertainment at PX movie house (video rental these days I suppose). The taxpayer sees to it that those items are amply covered.

D. King

New jobs training program, what are we starting with?

Here is John Stossel's take(part 2).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGNz0Y9vrBo

George Rebane

Indeed DougK, and to that we have to add that the students are motivated and disciplined - i.e. the classroom environment is markedly more conducive to learning.

Russ Steele

I went through Air Force training schools from Aviation Cadets (Navigation) to graduating from Air Command and Staff College. The one component through out was discipline. It was learn, or else. And the else was elimination from the program.

I also spend several years in the on base college programs from multiple Universities. I always ask my instructors/professors why they chose to teach after hours courses on base? The answer was almost universal -- after hours students were dedicated, disciplined and challenging. The instructors enjoyed the intelligent exchanges with the students, many who could share some life changing experiences, or who had been to countries under discussion. My calculus Professor was from the Air Force Academy, on a one year “bluing tour.” The professors had to spend time in the field learning what it was like to be in a combat unit.

I remember at Air Command and Staff, when a young newly ordained instructor was trying to teach the class about managing a squadron. After about 30 minutes in to his presentation a Major in audience jumped up and asked the instructor how large a unit had he managed. When the instructor professed to not having managed any unit, the Major fired back, “you do not know what the hell your are talking about, I came here from the managing a 900 man squadron”, and got up and walked out. About 15 other with direct experience got up and left the lecture hall. The next day the new instructor had been a squadron commander and we never saw the wet behind the ears instructor again. Most likely re-assigned to an operational unit for some experience.

The two most important things I learned in Air Force Schools was situation awareness and problem solving skills. Recognize the real problem, not the symptoms but the real problem, and then solve it with your tool sets. If only our schools would teach these skills. But, to do that would produce students who could challenge their instructors. Who would want that?

Todd Juvinall

I remember when Clinton, after shutting down the timber industry to protect the spotted owl, offered a few bucks to retrain the thousands upon thousands of timer folks. They retrained them into janitors for the government buildings that became the biggest employers in rural counties since the high pay timber jobs were no more. The system is totally broken.

One only needs to see the results of the federal "ownership" of the lands here in California. The counties where the urbanites play, ours, is now locked down to any resource extraction and fed and state employees are the biggest employers. What is wrong with that picture. Maybe we should take back our counties from them and they can be retrained.

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