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25 September 2011

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Russ Steele

I would vote for the NASA Maven failing to ask the question, but then there is this:

DoDʼs Joint Space Operations Center at Vandenberg AFB, CA, has assessed that NASAʼs Upper Atmosphere Research Satellite reentered the atmosphere sometime between 0323 and 0509 GMT on 24 September. During this period the satellite passed over Canada, the African continent, and the Pacific, Atlantic and Indian Oceans. The mid-point of that groundtrack and a possible reentry location is 31 N latitude and 219 E longitude (green circle marker on this map). http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/591662main_UARS%20Map.pdf

However, as George points out the experts are in Cheyenne Mountain, unless the Obama administration have closed the doors and are no longer using our IR satellites to track reentering vehicles.

George Rebane

Thanks for the link Russ. And as you point out, NASA was able to assign time of re-entry into a 1:46 hr time window - that is astounding. NORAD would give you the reentry plume(s) in a time-coordinate history that measures to a small (classified) fraction of a second, with no caveats about a "possible reentry location".

Todd Juvinall

Diminished of violence? I guess I am a skeptic about that view. In America we have 2.5 million violent folks in the clink. That may have something to do with it if the stats actually prove the diminution. I think humans are actually more violent. WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Angola,Rwanda, Cambodia, Somalia, Burma, Tibet the scourge of dictators keeping their citizens cowed by the threat of personal harm.. I am simply referring to facts I see and read. Humans have a underlying aggressiveness which I still don't understand.

Paul Emery

The US has 25% of the worlds prison population. That means we either have an epidemic of violence or send a lot of people to jail for non violent crimes such as enforcement of our silly drug laws or victim less crimes. Incarceration is after all a huge government program that should give any true conservative the shivers.

Todd Juvinall

I mostly agree with PaulE on his last post except for one comment. Many thousands of people are murdered every year by those peaceful drug pushers.

Ben Emery

A majority of prisoners are non violent offenders.

We house more inmates than China in both ratio/ total and their population has a billion more people than the US. Our draconian war on drugs along with their private prison industry counterpart are insane.
Here is a graph from the most advanced nations.
http://filipspagnoli.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/incarceration-rates-in-oecd-countries.jpg

Here is an article that is a dozen years old but gives a very thorough look at the issue of government, big business, drug laws, and private prisons. This complex has accelerated even more since this article was written. It has been awhile, maybe I will read it again myself.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1998/12/the-prison-industrial-complex/4669/

bill tozer

In a related news blurp about declining violence this morning, a Glendale High School English teacher is receiving quite a bit of flak for suggesting Capote's "In Cold Blood" be added to the advance placement reading list. Seems the Council of School Principals and the PTA have voiced their opposition to this classic non fiction novel. Meanwhile, violence at Dodger Stadium has been escalating for several years and the 49ers as well as other sports franchises are ready to ban all post game tailgate parties.

Anna Haynes

I hope this will be addressed at Emery v. Rebane:

Clinton: ‘There Is Not A Single Solitary Example’ Of A Country That Has Succeeded With A Tea Party Philosophy

(& apologies if it's old news, or already refuted (if so, what country?))

Todd Juvinall

In India it was the Tea Party revolt against the English. In Kenya it was the Mau Mau/Coffee Bean revolt.

Russ Steele

Quite frankly, I am more interested in a list of countries that have failed due to the Tea Party Patriot philosophy of:
• Fiscal Responsibility,
• Limited Government,
• Free Markets,and
• A government that respects and answers to it's people.


George Rebane

If I may pile on, I'm interested to know of any country besides the US that has ever practiced the Tea Party principles, no matter if it succeeded or failed.

Greg Goodknight

The Great Republic of Rough & Ready is but one example.

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