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17 September 2012

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Ryan Mount

Here's what she said:

We do not have information at present that leads us to conclude that this was premeditated or preplanned. I think it’s clear there were extremist elements that joined and escalated the violence. Whether they were al Qaeda affiliates, whether they were Libya-based extremists or al Qaeda itself, I think is one of the things we’ll have to determine.” [BOLD mine]

They don't know. Here's how it was reported in a nutshell: Susan Rice maintains that it wasn't a planned assault.

Well, that's not entirely true, although I would say that it is not in the Obama's Administration's best interest to highlight their weak, and frankly at times absent foreign policy.

I have had the misfortune to watch this horrible piece of crap "film"/trailer/thingie. I'd rather watch factory farm slaughter videos. It's been released in English fragments since July 2012. And overdubbed into Arabic early in September 2012. It received some Egyptian airplay apparently on September 8th.

Q: Why wait 3 days?
A: Well apparently to get those rocket launchers ready.

Something is indeed fishy here.

billy T

My, my, Libya says it was planned for 9/11. I wish all those involved would get on the same page.

Our government says this is not an anti-America thing going down. Funny, I wish I had a dollar of every American flag being burned the last couple of days. Might be a good time to buy stock in Bic lighters.

Bottom line. Nature abhors a vacuum. We send loud signals we are leaving Dodge and the new sheriff wants to move into our former digs. Guess they are just giving us hints that our lease has expired. Move over little doggie, the Big Dog is moving in.

Gregory

Seeing Susan Rice on the Sunday talking heads circuit really made me appreciate the late Jeanne Kirkpatrick.

THEMIKEYMCD

Can any progressives refute any of this video.
Mitt Romney being honest:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/17/romney-faults-those-dependent-on-government/

Walt

It sounds like "O" and Co. are thinking about sending the blind Sheikh to Egypt. Now don't that beat all? Most of the ones they cut loose from GITMO went back to fighting. Now they want to give back their leader? ( to settle things down over there)

George Rebane

Walt 651pm - Well said. It only makes sense when you review 'The Advent of Obamunism'.
http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2012/09/the-advent-of-obamunism.html

Paul Emery


This election is over. I've never in my years of following politics heard such a lame comment in the heat of a close campaign. Unbelievable. Even if you agree with him you have to admit its an amazing statement from a serious contender.

“There are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it,”

My job is not to worry about those people,” Romney said. “I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.”

This is aimed at 47% of the population. Amazing.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81312.html#ixzz26ndLMxYl


billy T

This Blazing Skirt story gets more disgusting as the story unfolds. I cannot even finish articles. I want to vomit.
A small demonstration of a couple dozen at another place happened hours before during the day.
Now the real story emerges. The ambassador is moved from Tripoli to the Consulate. He is moved again to a secret safe room when they go for protection. There he is hunted down and murdered, hours later and nowhere near the small demonstration.
The intelligence the murderers had on the Ambassador's movements was well planned, maybe an inside job..

The only one willing to work with us is the new Libyan President. Unfortunately, he is being called a liar and thrown under the bus to protect the Obama Administration. That chaps my hide.
Let the chips fall where they may. Like Fast and Furious, this is not political. Just get the facts out and quit hiding and running for political cover.

At least Hillary knows that a murder of any US Ambassador is a national embarrassment and direct dagger to the heart of the USA. Obama is too much of an amateur or stuck in academia or the bubble to realize the message sent and delivered.

Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize for bringing peace to the world (at a date uncertain), and more specifically the Muslim World. Obama opened his mouth and things happened. It sure has not resulted in peace. Didn't Yasser Arafat get one of those Nobel Peace prizes along with Jimmy Carter?? Screw them.


TomKenworth

Solid Gold Spoon, bowl, and soup tureen Arrogance strikes again! Romney definitely needs to be born again, this time on the other side of the tracks.

Ryan Mount

Paul-

I'm pretty sure candidates say crap like this all the time off the record. Remember Obama's "clinging to guns and religion speech" in 2008 which was recorded off the record as well?

The difference here is the smartphone and the "citizen" reporter.

Romney and his supporters probably believe it. I'm even inclined to believe it based on my immediate Nevada County experiences, but for different reasons. Either way, it should not be a surprise to us as it's well-worn rhetoric from fiscal conservatives.

I'm not even willing to to say he was being reckless. What's he supposed to do? His core support believes this anyway. But it will probably mean he loses the election. I think elites, ironically, have grown weary of him and decided it was time to throw him under the bus.

The only thing he can (should) do now is double down on the comments and hope the Reagan Democrat vote. If he apologizes for them in anyway, the election is over.

TomKenworth

"I think elites, ironically, have grown weary of him and decided it was time to throw him under the bus."

I think that was the plan all along. Four more years of the consolidation of corporate power, and getting Americans used to the "New Feudal America," and then they'll run a "had enough?" campaign. FDR, however, was initially stopped cold by the Supreme Court, and then went on to appoint 8 of the nine justices. Some hypothesize that Justice John Roberts threw Obama a bone with his healthcare ruling, just to avoid being considered too partisan himself. Talking point from NPR last night.

THEMIKEYMCD

I found no fault in Mitt's remarks (or the remarks in the short clip below). He is correct that there is nothing he could say to get the 47% of leeches to vote for him. Focus on the remaining 53% makes a ton of sense. Obama openly uses class warfare and is praised, the hypocrisy of the left knows no bounds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6aLpf5OMKw&feature=player_embedded

TomKenworth

Wow, I had no idea the idea of leeches was so entrenched! The only problem with the strategy, apparently overlooked by the non-leechee hardcore, is that among their ranks there are some parttime leechees, and possibly even some wannabee leechees, and that could cost them the election.

TomKenworth

Oh, I left out, "leechee sympathizers." You know, those folks making more money in the blue states, than the red states can even begin to dream of?

Ryan Mount

The problem with Romney's comments is a marketing one. He came out and said drinking Coke makes you fat instead of saying it's refreshing and made in the USA.

BTW Mikey, thanks for the Youtube link.

billy T

I like Romney's comments and I agree with them. The Great Divide. The makers vs the takers. I remember that video in 2008 showing all the excited people who were going to get "Obama Money". Give me, give me, give me some Obama Money!

"Money don't buy everything, that's true, but what it can't buy I can't use...I want money, that's what I want...I want moooonnnnneeeeey, that what I want....give me money, Obama Money"

What can my nation do for ME? Me, me, me. That guy over there has too much money. I want his money. I want, I want, I want. My wants are endless. Me, me, me.

I loved it when Romney said he likes firing people. I knew what he meant. If you are inept, can't do the task, call in sick every Monday morning, and are just sucking up all the good air in the room, then hit the road Jack. You are in the wrong profession. This ain't no day care. You are paid to produce. If you can't do the job, you are outta here knucklehead

Just like the NFL or MLB. T.O., you're fired. Back to the Minors and out of the Big Leagues.
Funny that the majority of people who make under 30k a year are Democrats. Majority. Majority rules and all that rot. Give me money. My palms are upright. Fill my hands President Obama. Give me, give me, give me.

Walt

Didn't the Left sometime back say "it is patriotic to pay taxes"?
So Mitt points out those that don't, and now Leftys say that's a bad thing.
So which is it? ( Progressives) Taxes "goood" or taxes "baaaad"?
As I recall, Lefties wanted more taxes.. ( as long as it isn't "them" that will pay them.) "Yaa,, yaa,, tax the crap out of the other guy!"

TomKenworth

No, it is, "tax the crap* out of the guy who has benefited most by being born in the USA, as evidenced by the proportion of the wealth they've managed to corral."

* "but not too much"

(somewhat the inverse of the line in this song:

"
Billie Holiday

Them that's got shall get
Them that's not shall lose
So the Bible said and it still is news
Mama may have, Papa may have
But God bless the child that's got his own
That's got his own

Yes, the strong gets more
While the weak ones fade
Empty pockets don't ever make the grade
Mama may have, Papa may have
But God bless the child that's got his own
That's got his own

Money, you've got lots of friends
Crowding round the door
When you're gone, spending ends
They don't come no more
Rich relations give
Crust of bread and such
You can help yourself
But don't take too much
Mama may have, Papa may have
But God bless the child that's got his own
That's got his own

Mama may have, Papa may have
But God bless the child that's got his own
That's got his own
He just worry 'bout nothin'
Cause he's got his own

TomKenworth

"You can help yourself
But don't take too much"

Republican anthem

Walt

Joe: ( back in 08)Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden said Thursday that paying more in taxes is the patriotic thing to do for wealthier Americans.
Sorry Tom, whats good for one, is good for all. " everyone must pay their fair share".
Us Conservatives are not against taxation outright. We understand that they are a necessary evil. It the fraud, waist, and abuse that we are against.
Libs have bought the votes by "cutting" taxes to the point that more people than not, don't pay ANY. So much for " their fair share". And trying to squeeze "the rich" to pay ALL the taxes is a fools errand. They tried that in NY, and all the "rich" people moved out of state. The same thing is happening here in Ca. Those that can, are leaving, and taking their money with them. And some LIBS have been quoted as saying,, " that's not fair". Hell, more people are denouncing their citizenship and leaving the country.(and taking the money with them too)

It come to the point that everyone will need to pay some form of tax for the nation to pay it's debts. The Liberal spending spree has done far more damage than it was supposed to fix.

billy T

My gawd, KenTomworth. Look at this pathetic shlock. We feed him, we house him, we take care of his medical needs and it still isn't enough for him. What more do you po folk want? What a whiner!!

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20120917/US.Death.Penalty.Obese.Inmate/

George Rebane

TomK 1128am - an example of that anthem would help, unless I again missed your humor.

TomKenworth

Would you like Blood, sweat and Tears, or the original Holiday version?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v96P_AXzto BST, excellent sound, just the album cover for video, traditional.

BST, upscale with Arturo Sandoval: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKvjsnCe8UA

another BST: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlIV2Tl4qM4&feature=related not so good

yet another, go one minute in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKzTW8zwYgE&feature=related

Billy Holiday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_1LfT1MvzI

I like this one better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z76oF_xhPjM

and the best for last, Billie with Tony Bennett:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z76oF_xhPjM


TomKenworth

For those who would say, "It's just music," please review:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFhwxZeq6g4

and then this comment:

"I was badly hurt and I remember people yelling at me to stay awake, a cold helicopter ride and the most godawful shivers before I fell into a deep sleep. I would wake to hear people coming and going and to a nurse trying to take my dog tags off. Why would she do that??? I guess I got worried and came to, mad and scaring hell out of her. This song was playing softly in her WalkMan, remember those things? and I lay there all alone and the song calmed me and I let myself sleep again."

SemperPappy 2 days ago

TomKenworth

Here's the theme for this fall's world political scene, and the story of how the song came to be written.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=5nSB3xnAmA4

or two who will be hear for hundreds of years after all of today's politicians are long forgotten:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=-zol906ltPU

TomKenworth

Of course the Dems have their own anthem, according to the Repubs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPqrTaVXJhI&list=LPyyX6t8Q0UN0&index=3&feature=plcp

TomKenworth

Let's hope it doesn't come to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8yI2A0QUtM&feature=related

hop scotching through YouTube with full sound through the Klipschesis one of my favorite pastimes.

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