Deconstructing America (updated 20oct14)

[Mr Sauer is a retired lawyer living in Nevada City who currently serves on The Union’s editorial board.  He drafted the following reply to a commentary by Ms Cheryl Cook, also a member of the newspaper’s editorial board, that was published in the 9sep14 issue of The Union.  For readers having difficulty accessing Ms Cook’s commentary – ‘“To insure domestic tranquility” vs The Second Amendment’ – I have reprinted it below Mr Sauer’s reply.  This post concludes with some of my remarks on Michael Savage’s just out Stop the Coming Civil War now on the best seller lists. gjr

20oct14 - Appended now are further developments that include Ms Cook's 20oct14 letter of resignation from The Union's Editorial Board.  gjr]

Norm Sauer

Cheryl Cook’s recent essay describing the authors of our Constitution as “privileged, white, male property owners who protected slave owners . . . buying and selling family members. . ,” and continuing to condemn “. . . old people . . . able to recall every statesman from 238 years ago . . ,” but unable to appreciate the continued suffering of Blacks in the 1960’s, and that the real threat to domestic tranquility is the Second Amendment’s right of individuals to keep and bear arms, disparages America and its founding documents.

This rant is known as “deconstructionism” wherein nothing respected about our history remains untainted.  The deconstructionist’s ploy is the de-emphasis, or even effacement, by posing a continuous critique, to lay low what was once high. 

Cook’s essay tears down the old certainties upon which Western culture is founded and the foundations on which those beliefs are based.  Sadly, I read her diatribe as an attempted erosion of our God-given inalienable rights, that “all men are created equal,” individualism, limited government, an educated and virtuous citizenry, and full republicanism. 

I can only scratch my head with wonder at her contempt.  What purpose does she seek to serve in her destruction of American Exceptionalism?

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“To insure domestic tranquility” vs The Second Amendment

Cheryl Cook (from the 8sep14 online issue of The Union)

The Constitution of the United States is more than a piece of parchment that lays in state in the National Archives or the pocket-size edition that We, the Old People, sometimes carry sandwiched between our Social Security and Medicare cards.

Our Constitution was written with the broad strokes of a feathered quill pen that left ample space for future debates through the decades. It is a blueprint for America.

Like silversmiths hammering silver and gold, statesmen debated and compromised until the document melded the liberty of the individual into a collective responsibility. “We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union ...”

Written in the summer of 1787, our Constitution reflected the philosophy and interests of its authors ... privileged, white, male, property owners who protected slave owners and rejected the rights of women.

In this Land of the Free, cotton and tobacco landowners continued to grow wealthy on the sweat of slaves and established a culture where buying and selling of family members was as customary as sipping sweet tea on the front porch. Over generations of families being bought, sold and split apart, slaves had no choice but accept a life of learned helplessness.

While we secede into our own State of Paranoia, our bifocal glasses bent toward the borders, our grandchildren are being slaughtered in their classrooms.

A mere 65 years later, seven states with cotton based economies facing the end of slavery declared their secession from that Union established under our Constitution. They imprisoned ministers who preached against slavery.

They took up arms.

The Civil War was the deadliest war in American history, with 750,000 American soldiers dead in four years time. Deadlier than the Revolutionary War that prompted the new nation. Bloodier by far than World War II, the Vietnam War, and Iraqi War combined.

Americans shot and killed their own. Americans killed Americans.

The new Constitution had replaced the Articles of Federation with a new government that established and strengthened a strong central (federal) government with a chief executive, courts and taxing powers.

Over 150 years later, instead or working toward forming a more perfect union that balances a central government with the interests of individual states, voices are once again raised against the threat of the federal government.

In the past six years, there is an almost fanatical focus on “the document” and our loss of liberty. How is it that We, the old people, are able to recall every statesman from 238 years ago, but our memory diminishes when it comes to the real loss of liberty suffered by Americans in this country within our own lifetimes?

In the 1960s, the Southern states fought integration in the schools. Black citizens in some states could not sit in the same areas on buses or in drug stores, or use the same drinking fountains. Adults were stopped at the voting booth by state troopers with batons.

That’s loss of Liberty.

Martin Luther King, Medgar Evers, Robert Kennedy, John F. Kennedy ... assassinated for their political views and calls for social justice in their speeches.

That’s loss of Liberty.

Today, the central Constitutional challenge in America is not the suffering of citizens whose lives may be impositioned by the amount of ammunition in clips they can purchase at one time or the possible threat from illegal immigrants coming across our borders in search of work.

While we secede into our own State of Paranoia, our bifocal glasses bent toward the borders, our grandchildren are being slaughtered in their classrooms.

The real and present danger has proven to be the threat from within: the Second Amendment right of any individual to bear arms opposed to the good of the larger community ... the sake of something greater.

There is an explosion in gun and ammo sales throughout the country.

More Americans have died as the result of gunfire since the assassination of Robert Kennedy, than all the wars in this country’s history since the Battle of Lexington, according to the Congressional Research Service and Centers for Disease Control Prevention.

There is an unmistakable pattern of unarmed black teens shot and killed by armed citizens and local police.

How far will the arc of the moral universe bend in search of justice? In 2014, it bends with the brilliance of candlewicks that illuminated the first drafts of the Constitution. It grows in strength and brilliance with the lanterns of the Civil War and the torches of the Civil Rights era when the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964 followed by the Voting Act in 1965. It now casts its laser beam on the cold, lifeless bodies of innocent children who were not protected by the Second Amendment.

Our legislators need to pull up their big boy breeches and stand up to those forces that fight legislation promoting gun safety and responsibility.

The Preamble of the Constitution declares the pledge to insure domestic tranquility. It is time that we turn our debate toward the relevance and consequences of the Second Amendment in the year of the Lord, Two Thousand and Fourteen.

Cheryl Cook, who lives in Nevada City, is a member of The Union Editorial Board.

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For years that predate RR I have witnessed the ideological fracturing of America.  For the last eight years I have offered my observations on the scope and advance of this rift and concluded some time ago that we are beyond the tipping point – that save some miraculous outside event, there is no returning to a nation whose range of aggregate ideologies allowed us to remain ‘e pluribus unum’.  To gather and focus the ideas and commentaries on this important national issue, I set up the ‘Great Divide’ category in these pages.  There readers can find articles, links, and commentaries that record the progress of the country’s coming apart.

This topic and my observations have resulted in some of our leftwing readers of the progressive persuasion to attack me personally as some kind of outlier with a fevered brain who knows nothing of the true America.   I have been called "unpatriotic" and a "traitor" for expressing these observations and beliefs.  As an immigrant, some have even told me to go back to my country of birth.  These are the same people who have made California what it is today, and are well on their way to fundamentally transforming America as per their leader’s promise, exhortations, and extra-constitutional mandates.  We shiver to think of the Amerika that will be when they finally take unchallenged control.  In the interval they do all they can to silence the voices that shine a light on their progress.

That the Great Divide appears more inevitable by the day, and that major national and international publications talk about the tendentious division and possible break-up of our country for progressives is a matter of either agenda driven denial, limited reading horizons, or simply gross ignorance in our nation’s Left contingent.  As documented here and elsewhere, conversations between the factions and search for some operative middle ground continues futile because both sides subscribe to vastly different logics, histories, and worldviews.

The latest to herald this national reality is Michael Savage in his Stop the Coming Civil War that is now on the country’s best seller lists.  Therein Dr Savage argues, since the two sides are so cheek-by-jowl marbled, that something like my description of the Great Divide may no longer be possible.   From one review of the book, we read –

“Stop The Coming War: My Savage Truth by Michael Savage reads like a legal indictment. Our gifted author wastes no time in charging Barack Obama and the Liberal Democrats with treason. Using their own words against them, along with other documentation, Dr. Savage lays out the case for the abuse of power that is running amok throughout the Obama administration and the DNC. As one reads on and digs into the heart of the book, he presents the cold, hard facts on how our ′borders, language and culture′ are being assaulted on nearly every level. From the workplace to the universities. From our churches to the utility poles. America is being attacked from within.”

While those who seek to plan and control our lives continue their denials and castigations, I will give you my own report after I finish the book, and look forward to your reactions.  (BTW, if anyone finishes the book before me and wants to write a review, please email it to me and I’ll post it as your byline.)

[20oct14 update]  Today The Union published Mr Sauer’s letter (above), and it did not go down well with Ms Cook.  She considered Mr Sauer’s response as an “assault” on her lengthy diatribe (also above), an assault that apparently gave rise to a hissy-fit of such magnitude that it caused her to resign from The Union’s Editorial Board.  From the record it appears that Ms Cook also had other problems with the newspaper’s management.  And for the record, I will miss Ms Cook's contributions in The Union as a member of its Editorial Board.  And as a humble compensation I offer to post her bylines on RR where there are no word count limits, all sides of arguments are welcome, and the ideological spectrum of its readership is wide.  In any event, I received an email with her letter of resignation along with the response that she would have wanted to have published along with Mr Sauer’s letter.  They are both reprinted below (as received, no edits) so that readers can judge this kerfuffle for themselves.

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Dear Union Editorial Board Members,

The Union recently changed the policy on newspaper endorsement of political  races allowing  Stan Meckler to write  a Letter to the Editor blasting local candidate, Jim firth, who is running for Grass Valley City Council. To my knowledge, that is the only piece that Stan has submitted on his own.

His seat was not even warm when Norm Sauer used his second piece to write an libelous  character assassination  against a fellow Board member , accusing her of having "contempt" ,   "attempting an  erosion of our God given rights", and the destruction of our American  experience."

One tends to wonder if these men are on the board to discuss, ponder, and  write opinions on issues in our community, or as henchmen for  Tea party/CABPRO .

This morning, Norms assault appeared in the Union without my response. 

I attempted twice to  garner    a discussion on these matters by e-mail and by asking for a moment at our last meeting on October 15 to clarify policy when one member opposes another member's Other Voices in print. There was no discussion.   Apparently, the Board does not "censor" the writings of board members, but I was certainly censored on both occasions.

Sadly, all I ever wanted to do with the Union was write….to express my opinion in writing.  You expect a certain amount of flack from community members, but when you constantly put yourself out there , you also need to trust the support you get from your publisher and editor.  I have lost faith in that  support being fair and balanced.

Please remove my name from the membership of the Union Editorial Board.  i no longer wish to be a part of the board or associated with the Union.

Cheryl Cook

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My response:

A study of American history is based on facts, not selective historical revision. In the September 8, 2014 Other Voices.  I chronicled our  ever-widening path toward liberty and equality for all through the writing of the Constitution, the Civil War, and the Civil Rights Era.   As we look back in history, most  broad-minded Americans are able to reconcile  that the lofty ideals of  equality and liberty were drafted in a time in history  when slavery was not only culturally accepted, but necessary to economic development. 

Not only do I have a deep and residing respect  for all of our nation's history, but I honor our Constitution for being the strength and foundation that affords me the confidence to speak our as a Progressive lady in a Conservative county.  Would you deny me that freedom?

You accused my voice of "disparaging America and its founding documents" ,   harboring "contempt" , and bent on the "destruction of American Exceptionalism". 

Truth be told, when one American questions  another American's   depth of patriotism  and  understanding of Liberty,  it is rather the accuser's actions that  diminish those individual God-given American freedoms.

Cheryl Cook

Comments

[fish]

70 million firearms purchased since Obama took office!

Questionable logic and special pleadings notwithstanding someone should inform Ms. Cook that her battle has been lost.

(That said....I still think Michael Savage is perhaps the worst possible messenger that the conservative movement could hope for)

[George Rebane]

fish 414pm - "... worst possible messenger that the conservative movement could hope for." What, pray, earns Dr Savage that attribution?

[fish]

He reinforces every negative stereotype the lefty dimwits hurl at us (conservative/libertarians).....overwrought, hate filled, opportunist, thoughtless. I tried listening to him.....briefly when he was on KGO almost 20 years ago!

Haven't read any of his books....he might be W. F Buckley but I'll never know because I think he's more than a little loopy!

[Walt]

Savage tells it like it is, I do have to say. But I do believe he has been in S.F. WAY too long. He does come off as a "loose cannon".

LIBS refuse to admit that the NRA was pretty much the first "civil rights" org. to stand up for the minorities, when government started passing laws forbidding Blacks from owning firearms. Yet LIBS today still claim to be the ones looking out for "minority rights",, yet do their best to keep them in chains. ( good ol' Southern Democrat style) "here's your free phone.. Vote for us. Here's a meager welfare check, vote for us, and they will keep coming. "

[Joe Koyote]

I agree with fish.. Savage, like Limbaugh, is an entertainer who has found his road to riches by stirring up hatred and discontent and siding with the monied interests rather than the people. Of course they are successful, they are saying what the money wants them to say. If ranting about laundry detergent would make the same amount of money, Savage would be going off on that just as vehemently. And like Limbaugh, in the early days (I used to listen to both) Savage was an equal opportunity basher until he found his niche on extremes of the far right. As time goes on, his rhetoric keeps going farther and farther into the abyss. You can lead sheeple to kool-aid but you can't make them drink, unless they are conservative, apparently. What is there about political thought that allows people to be angered so greatly so often over ideological rhetoric and bullshit? How is it that paid shit-stirrers like Limbaugh and Savage hold such power over the thoughts of so many? I guess PT Barnum had it right.

[Todd Juvinall]

The libs hate Rush because he is effective and maks 50 ,illion a year from talking! I listen sometimes but I did not start until about 1995. He was the only place you could go and hear about the extremists on the left. Democrats etc. He talked about the eco nuts who I had been battling for years and the who/what lamestream favored. So say what you will that he is just an "entertainer" and that is fine. As long as you extremists on the left believe that, it works for me.

Savage I don't care for as he trashes conservatives and I have had enough of that most of my life from the lamestreams.

[fish]

You can lead sheeple to kool-aid but you can't make them drink, unless they are conservative, apparently.

I'd credit you with with a brilliant satirical statement if I didn't know that you truly believed that if only the "right people" were in charge that every lefty moron in the world would have his/her own Skittle shitting Unicorn and health care would be free.....free I tells ya!

[George Rebane]

I have not listened to Savage on his regular program, but I have heard him on interview and pundit shows. I have found nothing he has said that is a blatant lie or even a bent truth (but, of course, you know my biases). He has not made me or anyone I know hate anything or anybody. So I'm wondering, is all this savaging of Savage based on something that he has said (quotes please) or written that makes him unacceptable to some on the Right? The Left, of course, does not have to explain itself since everything Savage and others of his ilk say is unacceptable to them; however, if any of these readers have something that they know about Savage and think it can reach across the abyss, then please weight in.

[Bill Tozer]

I am not well acquainted with Savage in the least since I have only heard his radio show twice in my life. The first time, he mentioned the skin poppers hanging around some formerly nice beach walkway in the Sanctuary City by the Bay. Asked the fellow who tuned him in "Whatz a skin popper?" The answer was needle freaks as in those that shoot up dope. Liked that one.

The second time was when he cut short a very elderly caller who sounded like he was 108 years old. Mr. Savage explained to the listeners that as soon as people from wrinkle village call in, the listeners start tuning the dial. He said very very old callers tune people off. I can see his point as radio is all about listening and better to have smooth nice voices than not. Found him a wee bit on the caustic side for even moi, but I do admire straight shooters whoever they may be. It's his show to run anyway he chooses. Might offend some skin poppers, but that's his choice he has to live with. :). Don't imagine too many skin poppers listen to hm anyway.

[Todd Juvinall]

When I was doing sales a few years ago I did listen to Savage in my daily travels. I listened to Hugh Hewitt, the guy from Seattle and Savage as well as Rush. I found that Savage did have useful info I could use but it is how he says it. It is also his constant attacks on other conservatives back then.. Maybe he does not do that now. But I did try and help him with the British banning him from England as that was of course totally over the top. They threatened to arrest him if he tried to come into England. They called him a "terrorist" regarding words! Hell they have Imams calling for death and Savage was simply yapping without any violence or intent to violence.

So for me, he just says it in an irritating way and so I would rather liten to Lars or Rush.

[fish]

So I'm wondering, is all this savaging of Savage based on something that he has said (quotes please) or written that makes him unacceptable to some on the Right?

As I said.....I find (found) his demeanor on his radio show to be off putting for the reasons stated above. I have no specific quotes from him as I have not listened for almost two decades. Perhaps he's improved his performance since I last listened.

If you find his message and delivery (in whatever venue you choose to receive it) beneficial then further discussion is uneccessary.

[George Rebane]

So far we have heard that Savage does not wrap very nicely the message he delivers. However, no word yet on any bad/false messages. We must remember he, like I, are commentators and not journalists. And yes, wrapping messages nicely is better. But what if his particular messages are still important and don't come better wrapped from anyone else?

[fish]

We must remember he, like I, are commentators and not journalists.

But you don't come across like as unhinged in your role as commentator. In my estimation Savage does/did!

Part of differentiating the conservative/libertarian message from that of the vacant proglodyte chorus is being right and not sounding like crazies in the process. You are rightfully concerned about Agenda 21 issues. I think that you convey your concerns without coming across as nutty....the only person I see (in this venue anyway) who reacts poorly to your critique is Frisch who makes a living off "the consensus process" and "sustainability" (I imagine he's going to see how sustainable his "indulgence shop" is when we really start having money troubles as a country).

It's a lesson I really should have heeded myself when SFUE started showing up in the SacBee. I thought that his linking to to articles that so blatantly and obviously tilted left might have some impact....I needn't have worried....whatever message he tries to impart is lost in the absurdity that is Pelline himself. All he does is diminish their brand!

So keep linking to YubaNet jeffy...every time time you do you just make my arguments for me!

[Todd Juvinall]

George, it has been my experience in radio and TV and in interpersonal relationships that the message I want to deliver will not be listened to if I am saying it in a way that is not at least respectful. I listened to Savage many times but he was consistently pissing me off with his delivery. I appreciated his info and his desire to expose wrongdoing but he turned me off after a while. Sort of like Pelline does. He attacks my friends, he denigrates locals and then wonders wy no one likes him.

[George Rebane]

Thank you gentlemen, I get the picture. Let's read his book and see if he's mended his ways.

[Bill Tozer]

fair enough Dr. Rebane. Don't shoot the messenger. In my case, I listened to Savage twice before he went big time and became Savage Nation. In Rush's case, I was on board before he left Sac and went big time as well. Nothing personal against Rush. He is still my lovable Teddy Bear. But, after a decade or two, I don't tune in anymore. I have even grown tired of Swap Shop over time. In fact, I am turning off to KNC0 and am tired of listening to the FM's The Eagle, old sixties, old 70's and 80's rock, 90's music. Guess even Zappa has lost his appeal. That leaves me with KMVR and some Cab Calloway CDs. Guess I will pick up the mouth harp or harmonica and make my own tunes, but, yep, I digress just to stay consistent.

Savage is spot on. We have a Constitution shredding egomaniac in the Oval Office who has some deep seated hatred of America. With his background and world view, Obama's American experience is foreign to the majority of citizens who love Mom, eat apple pie, and drive Pick-em-up trucks, if lucky. So, with Obama's momma the socialist's socialist and his Arab pappy the ultimate anti-colonialist with the West being evil Imperialists, do you really expect Obama to wrap himself in the Red White and Blue and love the Constitution or respect the rule of law? Hmmmmm? What you see is what you get and it is so apparent we don't need to even read Dr. Savage's book. Dr. Savage's research would just sicken me more during my current transitional phase.

[Bill Tozer]

Guess I am not alone in my opinion. No more tingling legs or fainting at Obama's words, just cardiac arrests.

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-makes-rare-campaign-trail-appearance-people-leave-215726732.html;_ylt=A0SO8xWeTkRUT0QAGk3BGOd_

[Walt]

I guess I have listened to M. Savage more than anyone here by the looks of things.
He regularly sticks it to other Right wing media on the belief that they "don't stick up for him". Yet he has appeared on FOX more than once.
Think of him as a Conservative with a Bay Aria "attitude". Yes, he does come unhinged sometimes,(well,,, most of the time..) but his message and facts are solid.
Like I said before, he's been in the bay way tooo long.

At least he is back on the air. He took a break after getting out of some wild contract
where he was pretty much an indentured servant. ( his words not mine)

A Reno station has him. I listened in on Friday. Not the wild man of a few years ago.
Maybe he was having a good day.

Ol' JoeK.... Poor guy,,, it's gotta suck that LIB talk radio is pretty much extinct.
Well,, at least on the endangered species list.

Here the news about "O" and his latest speech? He started talk'n,, and the crowd started LEAVE'N!! Ouch!

[Walt]

Read it and groan...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/19/us-usa-politics-obama-idUSKCN0I80V320141019

President "O"bola?

[Walt]

Here's some ( HA!!) good news for Joe and the gang. If your really believe it I have a dam full of water to sell ya'
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/19/wasserman-schultz-predicts-are-going-to-hold-senate/
Did someone send here a kilo of our County's best MMJ?

[George Rebane]

The Cook/Sauer dust devil has received more impetus with Ms Cook's resignation from The Union's Editorial Board. I invite your kind attention to the 20oct14 update to this post.

[Gregory]

"Our legislators need to pull up their big boy breeches and stand up to those forces that fight legislation promoting gun safety and responsibility." -Cook

You got to admire the euphemisms Cook and other would be gun regulators employ to dodge the reality of what they espouse... Just what part of "shall not be infringed" did Cook, former member of The Union's editorial board, not understand?

[Bill Tozer]

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. When the going gets tough, the tough get going with their tails between their legs. Oh, I love euphemisms. Better to fight and runaway to live to fight another day.
Don't know Msssssss Cook, but I assume she just hates it when things do not go the way she demands them to. It's a common trait among progressives I have noticed, with no imperial data to back up my observations. Disagreements and counter points of view really get that worm squirming in the progressive heads no matter how loudly and how often they claim to be the guardians of tolerance and diversity. It's not fair. Some even go as far to take it personally in their self centered self seeking self absorbed underdeveloped frontal lobes.

[Walt]

What? She couldn't handle the return fire from her attack on the Second Amendment? ( I'm guessing)
Seems a seat is open for another local LIB to try and claim..( this should be good ...)

A little more on the so called " Freedom Socialist " party demands for the 20 buck minimum wadge they themselves refuse to pay.
http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/20/socialist-party-demanding-20-minimum-wage-insists-it-should-not-be-subject-to-20-minimum-wage/
Remember Ben's little quip? " if it's true"... Here it is pal,, in black and white.
Be sure to note their excuse. ( because of where their funds come from)

[Bill Tozer]

Socialist head honchos, like Congress, never live under the rules they impose upon the masses. Their biggest blind spot (and that of progressives as well) is they think the voters are not as smart as they and their words should be taken as fact. Thus they talk down to us little people which little people find agitating, annoying, condescending, arrogant, and down right pisses people off. The socialist head honchos in turn cannot believe how dense we are for not accepting/ worshipping their dictates and how dare we with dirty little fingers and dirty little lives challenge their superior intellects.
We with our feet planted on the ground are ungrateful for their sacrifice and obviously fail to recognize genius. They are the eagles, we are the turkeys. Almost feel sorry for them Marxist Socialist Progressive Libowels. So lonely at the top.

[Todd Juvinall]

Cook is a typical spoiled brat liberal. If she doesn't get it her way, she takes the highway. My goodness, why is it liberals who espouse freedom of speech shutting their own down when they get into the whiny mode? Too funny!

[Walt]

On the subject of deconstruction, Here about the wedding chapel and the two ministers
who are getting charged with a crime for refusing to marry a gay couple? Well,,, called that one. Christian Churches are next on the "anti discrimination" hit list.
Kiss the separation of Church and state goodbye. ( in the name of "tolerance",, by the intolerant.)

[Account Deleted]

What else do you expect from the left? They have rarely ever been able to engage in the give and take of public debate. Ms Cook was allowed her say and it was a mess. When challenged, she freaks out and expects that she should receive 'support' from the editors. In what way? We will never know. The fact that some one has a difference of opinion and is allowed to have it published amounts to an 'assault' in her mind.
I'm surprised she didn't use that new phrase of the fascist left - microaggression.

[Bill Tozer]

The whole concept of deconstruction is most unpalatable. Republicism is being replaced by Great Father in Washington. Tea Party ideas bad, Executive Branch overreach good.
Not surprised the deconstructionists always cloak themselves in hundreds of years of slavery to bash everything under the sun, except those of their ilk. Disagree? Means you have subtle racism oozing from your white pores. America bad, berry berry bad.

States' rights bad. Capitalism bad. Profits bad. Ownership bad. Great Father in Washington most good, must grow. Personal freedom and individualism berry berry bad, must decrease. You racists, me not. You are haters, my side not. You are evil and greedy, my side not. Our side needy, your side not. That is most bad, berry berry bad.

[Walt]

What brand of fire water tonight "Brave in Squaw cloths"? I think I could use some.

[Bill Tozer]

Walt, reread your link to the wack jobs promoting the 20 dollar federal minimum wage with a guarantee of a 30 hour work week in their platform while offering a 13 buck/ hour 20 hour work week. The dude took the ad down from Craig's List because of the.....drumroll please....because of Republican hypocrisy. Too rich. They are the good guys?
Found other links from that site. The libs are going nuts and getting desperate. Wendy Davis in Texas says her Republican opponent is going to take away one's "god given right to buy dildos." Can't make this stuff up, but it is apparent the only dildos on the ballot tend to lean left. Of course Wendy claims her opponent would ban interracial marriage. Never mind he is married to a Latina. Getting weird out there. In Kentucky the ban interracial marriage card is being played out as well. Better stock up on dildos while they can or else our fellow libs will be in want of sex toys. Heck, if them evil R's ban dildo's, I can always donate my old thermos to the cause. Gotta think of those in need.

Now that 4 incumbent Democrat US Senators have refused to say if they voted for Obama, things are getting more interesting. I could understand one incumbent Democrat US Senator refusing to say if they voted for O or not in Oklahoma or Utah, but 4? What, did they vote for Romney? How stupid do they think we are.
Not to be dissed, O threw them under the bus today saying they all support his agenda and policies. Called them the silent ones who support him behind the scenes 100%. Boy, better than a food fight and Obama's ego refuses to let him bite his tongue. Yep, they are the good guys.

Walt, if the Good Lord wanted us to be nudists, we would have all been born without clothes. I am wearing an old Letterman's jacket right now with fatigue pants and fur lined slippers with white socks. Feeling rather butch lately. No firewater for me tonight. I have had enough. But, please, have a couple pulls from the jug for me. Maybe it will better for you than firewater treated me. Gotta keep my wig warm without dildos or firewater during this transitional period.

[Walt]

Oh, my good buddy Bill. "Dildo Davis" has gone off the deep end in the slime pit.
The Daily Caller is a wealth of info on the exploits of LIBS and the games they play.

Yup,, and the stoned Socialists love to play the do as I say, and not as I do, and "we are exempt from our own demands". ( How bout those apples Ben?).

"O" must be calling in a fleet of buses just to throw people under, for the crowd walking out on him. that just can't happen to Dear Leader without heads rolling.( that would be a first.) I pity the golf ball after that.

Now to take a nip or three of my jug of Hawaiian moon shine I have saved for "good news" nights.
Glad to hear your back in manly attire.

[MikeL]

Ms Cook has some facts a little wrong. The number of gun deaths since the the early 60's includes those by suicide. Suicide is one of the top 10 leading causes of death and while tragic should not be included in a truthful number regarding gun violence. 2011 had around 12000 homicide deaths so multiplied by around 52 years you get less than the number she states that died in the Civil War.