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12 April 2016

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Todd Juvinall

I also did a diddy on her today. What is interesting though is her laments for her personal life and income as well as her ilk. I thought these people liked living in caves and walking instead of driving. No TV or microwave oven. So I guess I was wrong. She wants those things just like me. Except she wants it as a free-be. Along with the latest from the commies in Sac regarding forcing a business to pay for my time off taking care of a friend. This should be a heaven on earth for her and her pals!

Brad C.

I feel Ms. Hodge's pain, but, if she is looking for work in a forest, she is going to find few jobs available. Traditionally, people moved off the farm and into the cities to look for work. If you are going to move back to "the farm" you need to lower your expectations, telecommute (or just plain commute), have education or experience in a field that is in demand up here, or identify a demand and start a business if you want to make a decent living.
It is nice up here but there are not many high paying jobs of the kind you might find in the Bay Area. We are not quite Third World up here, maybe more like 2.5 World.

Bill Tozer

Life is hard, then you die.

Bonnie McGuire

You're so right Brad. Lived here a long time, and what you say has always been the case. Unfortunately, common sense is an endangered element for those who live and think in the box. I've known dear people born and raised in the city who had no idea where everything they needed came from. They loved to visit and enjoy the beauty of our rural area and we enjoyed visiting their museums etc. It was a perfect example of the difference between the city and country mice. Evidently, even the government noticed and wanted to do something about the mental disconnect from reality. http://www.mcguiresplace.net/McFarland%20Ranch%20Project%20At%20Galt

Gregory

" A friend of mine recently admitted that she had been doing a really good job “masquerading as a middle class person” for the past several years. I feel like I have been doing the same thing and that most of my friends are giving similar performances."
-HH

Me too! A hint to my fellow masqueraders, owning an airplane makes it easy to fake people out.

Brad C.

Greg, yes, I own a classic sports car. It is very reliable and I never have to take it to the shop for repairs - because it just sits in the garage all the time!

Scott Obermuller

HH is not the only one to have this complaint. The left continues to spread the idea that one can pick any field of endeavor and move to any location and some how live a comfortable middle class existence. That is, of course, when they aren't slamming the whole idea of actually enjoying a middle class existence.
Poor child only has one car. I thought owning and operating a car was bad for the environment. I guess only when you don't support B Sanders.
Anyhoo - maybe flooding the country with a few million more illegal immigrants will solve the problem.
I have no answer for this poor child. She certainly wouldn't listen to me about any solution I would offer, so all I can do is hope that some how this country is once again populated by folks that understand the laws of nature. But I'm not holding my breath.

rl crabb

It's always been the case that if you want to live in Nevada County you need to bring a job with you.

Russ

One comment at the Union on HH's column:

Greg Zaller · California State University, Chico
Excellent article. Hillary makes a good case to vote for politicians who recognize and want to change the problem of the polarization of wealth.

Another liberal looking for a government solution.

Bill Tozer

Polarization of wealth?

http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/12/pay-gap-alert-clinton-foundation-male-execs-earn-38-more-than-women/

Michael R. Kesti

rl crabb 12Apr16 06:30 PM

Really, Bob? The Grass Valley Group and other television technology companies have attracted many, myself included, to our community without bringing a job with them.

Anybody who sees this as an opportunity to again comment on my current employment situation can, uh... well, you know what you can do.

Todd Juvinall

LOL!

Todd Juvinall

Crabb is right though. Sure maybe a people created jobs here like I did but most came for the beauty and forgot about the fact there were no jobs here in Poetic Reading. They are serving burgers now.

Brad C.

Polarization of wealth, haves and have nots, etc. ? Hasn't there always been a "problem" of polarization of wealth in captialilst, monarchys, even in socialist or communist societies? The rich commies did not get that way by working for it though - they got it through sweetheart backroom deals made with other connected insiders in the good ol' commie boys club. Greed happens.

jon smith

In Hilary's mind the best way to soften the beach before a job interview is to climb up on a podium and let every employer in the community know you are a whiner. She has ensured she won't get a job, so she can continue her job, which is to write about her inability find a job. Then she'll blame it on the homophobes.

Gregory

"Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite."
-John Kenneth Galbraith


At least with capitalist exploiters, competence was demonstrated in the accrual of capital, real goods and services being created and managed. Socialists often get into power by raising the rabble and, all too often, killing many who didn't go along with it.

Todd Juvinall

Brad and Jon Smith are right on the mark. If you want to eat, you better find a way to figure it out. The caveman went out to hunt while the lazy ass caveman croaked of starvation by sitting in the cave whining about the furniture. And the reason she is always mentioning her sexual preference is to prepare for that inevitable lawsuit against the cake makers. Lawsuits are how we have decided to re-distribute the fantasy of walth inequality in America. Been going on for years. That is why the lawyers support the left.

Bill Tozer

Oh, Hilary isn't really whining or demanding stuff. Her story is old hat to us, heard it hundreds of times in countless rural areas. Maybe someone never heard it before and she was just stating the obvious in case there is one person out there that this "moving to the country" song has never been played for them. Wrong place to move if you are a major museum curator or need a weekly world class symphony/opera fix.
The new wrinkle we all have felt since around the time Obama was first elected. Layoffs, axing middle management, higher insurance premiums, and a nationwide feeling the country is heading in the wrong direction. Couple that with its getting harder to pop into a village and find good paying steady employment with great bennies and a generous retirement package until death do you part. And it's getting expensive. If gas was up around 4-5 bucks a gallon, then the struggling masses would hit bottom and then keep on falling as the floor gives way.

Here is a link that at first glance seems totally unrelated to the topic at hand. However, I saw a parallel. "I am from Berekley and I can have anything I desire, you hillbilly peasants." Well, that is true if you were flying in 1st Class, whether you are from Berekley, CA or not. When you move to economy class, you make sacrifices and you learn to skimp on peanuts. And learn some character, ingennuity and humility (hopefully). Hilary wasn't demanding so I will cut her some slack. Most urbanites in the crowded rat cages don't know the difference between a demand and a request.
http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2016/04/12/united-passenger-gets-very-angry-when-denied-extra-peanuts-on-flight.html?intcmp=hpffo&intcmp=obnetwork

Brad C.

Just saw a license plate holder on a car downtown that epitomizes the current mindset of many who will be in trouble when they reach retirement age,

"Life is too short for a full time job"

Russ

Working Overtime to Avoid the Truth Donald J. Boudreaux and Liya Palagashvili | The Wall Street Journal

Many salaried workers in the US may soon have to punch a time clock, thanks to the Labor Department's proposed regulation to qualify more workers for overtime pay. While more overtime pay sounds great, instead of paying more workers overtime, the rule would likely cause many companies to cut back workers' hours or lower their salaries.>

More liberal meddling!

Walt

GVG? Nothing of it's former glory exists anymore. It's been sliced and diced, and the pieces sold many times over.

Jon

Actually Walt, you don't know what you're talking about re: GVG. Yet again. A broken record.

rl crabb

GVG offshoot AJA is going strong. There are numerous other local businesses spawned by Doc Hare's brainchild.

Jon

Exactly RL. My best friend has been there for years.

Todd Juvinall

GVG spawned others companies but Walt is right. It was at 1500 employees at its height. Now I think the French own it and it has a skeleton crew. "jon" is wrong as usual.

Bill Tozer

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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209191145880838&set=a.1827534973240.104975.1386296009&type=3&theater

Jon

Todd, best to stick to issues in your little isolated world. You and Walt are really out of your league in your ignorance of the AJA, Belden/GV and Miranda operations and people in the area. RL Crabb is correct.

Todd Juvinall

"jon" you are out of your league here with information. I am totally aware of what is going on as you are not even close to correct. Try harder, you are embarrassing yourself. Oh and you should stick to your gardening.

Jon

OK, you know the people and the details about AJA and Belden/Miranda/GV, so tell us about their "shell" operation.. Would like to hear your spin on it :)

Bill Tozer

Connect the dots........ Conventional wisdom says never move to a place with vacationers' eyes. Sure, there are green sprouts in the local economy, the same green sprouts Obama has been taking about since before the White Hose cancelled Biden's Spring Recovery Tour after he put Biden in charge of the Stimulus "throw money at it" celebration. Nothing to see here.
Where are the jobs??? I am overqualified and underemployed. At least I have a great resume.

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Michael R. Kesti

1959 - Dr. Donald Hare founds Grass Valley Group (GVG)
1974 - Tektronix acquires GVG which continued to operate as GVG
1989 - Bernie Dayton, a former GVG VP of Engineering, founds NVision
1999 - Terry Gooding, a private investor, acquires GVG
2002 - Thomson Multimedia of France acquires GVG to became Grass Valley (GV)
2010 - Fransisco Partners, a private equity firm, acquires GV
2012 - Miranda of Montreal acquires NVision and the combined companies continue as Miranda
2014 - Belden acquires both GV and Miranda and combines them as Grass Valley, a Belden Brand

Gregory

I guess solitary confinement at the FUE's blog got old... Jon's back here looking for fights.

While Todd is somewhat off the mark, it remains Nevada County's video empire is greatly reduced from the peak circa 1992... I recall at the time GVG's headcount being closer to 2000 at that time, and AJA, a fine company whose products have had a real impact, is about a tenth that, worldwide. The local Miranda/NVision/GV operation fits into one small building now. Telestream is also making an impact, but nothing like the old Group.

Jon

Thanks Michael. Obviously the point is that the existing operations are now stable and employee levels still fairly significant relative to anything else remotely considered high tech. Its far from a skeleton. Who knows what the future holds, but if the ERC can make progress on VR and such , this area can approach its former glory days.

Jon

"Now I think the French own it" Todd

If you mean French Canadians, you are correct. Otherwise you're more than a decade out of date. Nothing new there.

Michael R. Kesti

Gregory 14Apr16 at 01:15 PM

Note that the "one small building," previously NVision's facility, houses only a design facility. Manufacturing is done in Montreal which was previously Miranda's facility.

Gregory

All together, video companies in Western Nevada County are maybe 25% the size video was in GVG's heyday. That's skeletal.

The ERC effort smells like Cargo Cultism to me and it won't make up for our lousy schools, though if someone wants to move to the area they can attend high performing schools for free if they know where to get the information. Move within the boundaries of Alta Sierra Elementary and Magnolia Middle Schools and your child's K-8 should be solid (depending how much of the Common Core Cool Aid they've been forced to consumed) and then Ghiddoti for high school and they'll be ready to attend the college of their choice.

Anyone have a Bernie Bench for sale?

Jon

We're going to disagree on the term "skeletal" and that's fine. Several hundred employees in a single industry in Nevada County sounds more than skeletal. If you can find another decent paying industry with 500+ people employed, good for you.

Greg, how about that recent State award for Grass Valley Charter? I thought you were telling people it was a disaster?

Gregory

Kesti, it ain't in Nevada County and that's what we're talking aboot (O'Canada lingo). I remember in the '90's when much of the GVG production moved to Oregon. Most of our hires at US Robotics in our expansion circa '94 were GVG refugees desperate to get out.

Gregory

"Jon", when Hennessey School had half their 3rd grade testing in the bottom quartile in a nationally normed test, they had a fresh "Calfornia Distinguished School" award for fealty to the state directives. The latest star pinned to their chest is similar.

On the last STAR exam reports, the Grass Valley Charter was near the bottom of their Similar Schools list. Their test results weren't bad for an average school in California but 70% of the kids had parents who had either a Bachelors, a Masters or a doctorate. Way above average... the school is cherrypicking their kids, as have the Yuba River Charter which also was in a position of infamy... #100 of their last 100 Similar Schools list. Worst.

The disaster is ongoing. The Common Core math standard for how to teach math are virtually identical to those that resulted in the Hennessey meltdown, as it was written by the same guy who directed the drafting of the standard Hennessey was using in '95. The schools are repeating the past and expecting a different outcome.

Jon

Agree with you on Yuba River Charter and (in general) Common Core, what I have seen of it. Some very strange stuff in Common Core that even parents cannot decipher.

George Rebane

Gentlemen - Your spirited discussion on NC's economy, its history and related factors like education really belongs under 'Nevada County's economic development ...' to enable future access to your arguments and current relevance. Thank you.

Gregory

George, just one followup:

At the Fairgrounds' STEAM dog and pony show open to the public this past Saturday, Merry Biles-Daley of the Grass Valley Charter School, a recent teacher of the year for the Expeditionary Learning national group, presented an award or two to students in the award ceremony. This is the same Merry who in '95 was the master teacher at Hennessey in charge of both promoting and evaluating their new-new math program, who proudly showed me a page of simple arithmetic problems, proclaiming with a sweep of her finger that "If a child can do the first problem on the page it does them NO GOOD [her emphasis] to do the rest of them".

Failure is, once again, celebrated as success.

George Rebane

Gregory 300pm - Thank you for another revealing example of the progressives' redefinition of success as more of the country becomes terminally unemployable.

I missed that little extravaganza because from 9am-1pm a select group of NC high school students were taking this year's TechTest in the Science Lecture Hall of NUHS. TT2016 was the tenth test in this merit scholarship series. As with past TTs, being able to do the first, or any single problem on the test guarantees no success on the remainder of the problems; they each require a unique 'out of the box' approach to the solution. The times, they are a'changin'.

Todd Juvinall

Watching the two liberal dems running for class President. My GOD, America is toast!

Chad

George - can I ask why you used quotes when referring to HH's wife?

George Rebane

Chad 159pm - Excellent question, and one that has given rise to some consternation which I will address in the addendum to this post. The short answer is that I am directly quoting from her article to repeat a fact that she adamantly makes in her writings. It is apparently important to her to emphasize her homosexuality and have it be recognized, so I did in her own words.

Jon

She made no mention of homosexuality. She mentioned her wife in an article, so why is this something you found time to point out? I might make mention of my wife if I wrote something in the paper too. She's legally married, so am I.

Please describe the difference please. Thanks.

Todd Juvinall

"jon" is sure a dense sock [puppet.

Jon

Todd, what is your problem with someone having a wife? I assume that's a foreign concept to you.

...If I was you, I found think it best not to comment about wives and marriage...")

Todd Juvinall

"jon" are you drinking again? Where did I mention a wife? And I have been married three times and know all about wives.

Bill Tozer

I love all my ex wives except the last one. I will say the same thing when I meet my new ex. I love them all except the last one.

Todd Juvinall

BillT, that is me too. LOL!

Bill Tozer

Jon, you big dumbo. Hilary went out of her way to say she has a female partner known as her wife. What this tidbit of detail has to do with the price of tea in China is anyone's guess. Strike that. HH went out of her way on her economic editorial about how difficult it is to make ends meet in Quaintytown to say she is gay. A lesbian. A homosexual. Has nothing to do with economics as far as I can see, except there are two bread winners in that family unit so life should be easier if nothing else (financially speaking). Easier to pay the rent and crack other monthly bills including the Internet and pay TV with two that going solo. More disposable income.
If I were to stereotype (gasp!), gay men are pretty good in the making money department. Never seen a gay man begging for bread, have you? Maybe homosexual men are more apt at successful living than lesbians. I don't know. I do know that Ms. Hodge went out of her way to tell every Union reader she is a carpet muncher. Who cares? Who really cares except Ms. Hodge and her wife??

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