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27 November 2016

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Paul Emery

Yeah George the blueness of Nevada County is setting in for a long run with Districts 1 and 5 deep blue for the next four hears and districts 3 and 4 up in two years. Dan Miller will face a tough challenge from a yet undisclosed but very popular opponent who will appeal to the 60% of the electorate that Miller branded as being "idiots" for opposing Measure W and Hank Weston (District 4) will not run again so that will be up for grabs. With the exception of Wildwood there was strong opposition to W throughout his district so a cultivation friendly candidate will surely emerge. Once again " It's the economy stupid" is the mantra so that will be the bugle for sure. there are more registered Dems than Pubbers which was reflected in Hillary's strong showing this November.

Lots of good deals on land in the North state where there is a more friendly future for the old Pubsters in Nevada County who aren't ready o head to warmer climates.

George Rebane

PaulE 505pm - You seem to be defending a hill that is not attacked, and very silent on 'YES California!'

Don Bessee

Here, here to PE's 'next four hears' and 'ready o head'. I hear madam liar liar pansuit on fire got 48% in Nevada County. I sure most are eveready for head PE. Just not sure what you mean by all that? ;-)

Gregory

Back when the local GOP were pushing for a particular supervisor, Mr. Pink was apoplectic over the fact that the Supervisors were non partisan positions. Now that they're drooling over a local hegemony, all of a sudden it's OK to treat them as partisan plums.

The Democratic Fortress California will collapse after one of two events... Global Warming disappearing as an organizing principle, or the state essentially going bankrupt, or more to the point, recognizing we've been bankrupt for awhile thanks to the employee pension fund books being cooked by unrealistic earnings expectations.

Gregory

"Lots of good deals on land in the North state where there is a more friendly future for the old Pubsters in Nevada County who aren't ready o head to warmer climates."

Paul, how is that not hate speech? Who, besides older GOP citizens of Nevada County, are you inviting to leave?

Bill Tozer

A recent piece in the Union after the election about us locals voting for racism and voting against tranny babies and voting for all the derogatory terms ending in "phobic" has a common theme espoused by the Calexiters. Add to that mix the exact same theme articulated by students who sought out mental health professionals after seeing the word " Trump" etched in chalk. That theme is "I can't believe some among us could possibly think that way....that they would vote for hatred! Now I am frightened, my safe place is no longer safe. Do I need to look crosseyed at my neighbor? Which ones are they?" Diversity of thought is NOT diversity! I feel so scared, I must flee to my own kind! This place has been defiled and will never feel safe again."

With that said, how about some cold hard facts:

And if somehow it [Calexit] came to pass, California better get a good lawyer, he said. When West Virginia seceded from Virginia during the Civil War, the Supreme Court later ruled that Virginia could be reimbursed for the money it spent building up its infrastructure.

“Would we have to repay the money the federal government gave us for Yosemite and the interstate highway system?” Levine asked. “I understand the frustration, but the Civil War was a really bad precedent.”

http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/11/26/calexit-just-some-flaky-california-dreamin/

Gary Smith

Paul:
The right side of the aisle in Nevada County has been better organized and has good turn out in elections. In 2 years that election will be a Gubernatorial Primary when those Supervisor positions are going to election. That election has the lowest turnout and the following General Election follows close behind. Will the left side get the turnout? Better not count your chickens quite yet.
S.F. County voted 9 to 1 Clinton over Trump, Shasta County was 2 to 1 Trump over Clinton. How the divide keeps growing in Calif.

Paul Emery

George Yes California is a lot like the State of Jefferson. It makes the advocates feel good and does no harm.

Paul Emery

Don

Well she sure as hell did a lot better than Trump in Nevada County. Also measure 64 won by nearly 6%

What do those numbers mean to you?

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery goy his clock cleaned and is now predicting for Nevada County. Good, it will be as successful.

Barry Pruett

I was briefly looking at the election results. Usually all types of voting should have about the same percentages (absentee, early, and Election Day). In Nevada county absentee voting and election day voting are about the same, the early voting is hugely skewed to the left. Seems a little odd.

Barry Pruett

http://www.mynevadacounty.com/nc/elections/docs/2016%20Elections/November%208%2c%202016%2c%20General%20Presidential/Cumulative%20Report.pdf

Take a look.

Bill Tozer

CA has about 18 million registered voters. Republicans account for only 29% of the registered voters in this state. California is truly out of step with the rest of the nation, save places near great bodies of water. Exceptions to the great bodies of water are Texas, Florida, the Carolinas, and the Deep South. Even Minnesota was not a walk in the park for the Democrat Party. Even here in "blue" Nevada County, the Democrat Party failed to get a simple majority for Crooked Hillary. Amazing.

Further research:

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/pb.235086849974878.-2207520000.1480346694./751097548373803/?type=3&theater

George Rebane

BarryP 737am - What you say has been true historically. The Dems urged their constituencies to vote early since their minds were already made up - no further facts need be considered. I'm not aware of any higher possibilities for hanky-panky with early voting. Thoughts?

Gary Smith

Barry:
I did check it out. June 2016 and November 2014 have even higher percentages of difference than Nov. 2016. My guess it has to do with the issues at the time and who is motivated. Some of other data that is always interesting to look at is the over and under votes of the contests. Of all of the propositions in Nov. 2016, Prop 64 "pot prop" got the least amount of under votes by far. How can you over vote a yes no question on the ballot? Maybe too much of prop 64 before you marked your ballot?

Barry Pruett

No particular thoughts...just an observation. I looked as well and the early voting most always leans left. I same cases really left. The LaMalfa/Reed race in particular. Just interesting. In any event, I can see people voting for Reed as well. If you ever met him, the first thing you would think is that he is a nice guy.

Paul Emery

this will be the last election we'll have these numbes to share. in "20 we are going for virtually all mail in voting which will be interesting. according to the Union

"Come 2018, all registered Nevada County voters will receive a vote-by-mail ballot, regardless of whether they asked for one.

They’ll also no longer have precincts scattered across the county, but instead get a handful of vote centers in five or six spots.

It’s a massive change for Nevada County, and one that will become statewide by 2020. A pilot program, of which Nevada County is part, will see those changes in 2018.

“Everyone is going to be mailed a ballot,” said Greg Diaz, Nevada County’s registrar of voters.

Senate Bill 450, signed by Gov. Jerry Brown two months ago, enacts the sweeping changes. Diaz will attend a meeting in about two weeks with the Secretary of State’s Office to learn more about the new system.

Paul Emery

Correction, that's 2018 this will take effect.

George Rebane

PaulE 1034am - Thanks for the heads up Paul.

Walt

OH JOY!!.... Let's make voter fraud as easy as possible. The Left needs all the help it can get.

Todd Juvinall

Michigan has certified Trump's victory and its 16 Electoral Votes.

http://kdvr.com/2016/11/28/michigan-certifies-trump-as-winner-of-states-16-electoral-votes/

Trump 306 and Clinton 232.

Some say if the recounts are against Trump's totals the total for the victory would decrease proportionately. People are trying to get that info.

Bill Tozer

11:45 am
Worse case serario is the House will decide the next Prez and VP, assuming the recount drags on and on past Dec. 19th....from what I gather. Trump and Hillary both would fall short of 270 electorates. The sole purpose is to delegitimize Trump to the max and lay the groundwork for possible impeachment....Right now it's all speculation, albeit I told ya the day after the election that the libs/progressives hate our guts. That will not change. They are despicable people. Reach out across the aisle and they bite your hand of friendship off. Go pound sand.

Hillary looks more and more like a horrible human being. They are still in denial and always will be. It's their way or death to those who do not fall in line. They will never accept that their world view and relative moralism is built on quicksand and destruction for all except for their little inner circle. They lust for absolute power and are dangerous to democracy, liberty, our inalienable rights, and are the biggest threat to our Constitutional Republic. They seek to destroy us from within. Stand firm, give no quarter to Evil. The depths of their depravity knows no bounds.

Don Bessee

Dr. Jill of the greenies failed to file the recount petition in Pennsylvania on time. It was due Nov. 21st.

Bob and weave and tap dance all ya want PE but 53% of Nevada County rejected madam liar liar pantsuit on fire. ;-)

Gregory

Barry P, recent elections have also had the early voting skewed drastically to the left... I expect that is from the early voting being in the belly of the beast... the Rude Center.

Paul Emery

Actually it was 52.35 Don. Trump was rejected by 57.53. Hardly makes this a Red state. Prop 64 won by almost 6%. Pretty pathetic showing from your home town fans.

Gary Smith

Paul:
Besides those changes there is a bit more to it. With the passage of SB 450 the following will happen.
Same day voter registration at the election office starting in 2017.
There would be one vote center for every 10,000 registered voters on Election Day and the Saturday, Sunday, and Monday leading up to Election Day. Starting 10 days before the Election and through the Friday before Election Day, there would be one vote center for every 50,000 registered voters.
Counties would be required to hold "education workshops" with community groups, including organizations that assist voters with disabilities and language minority communities.

I think the biggest change, was last year with the passage of AB 1461, the new Motor Voter Act.
This will make us a opt of voter registration state like Oregon. A drivers license makes you automatically registered to vote. If you don't want to be registered to vote, you have to opt out. This will add millions of voters to the rolls. With the passage of SB 450 these people will automatically get a ballot also. This will take $$$$ to do this.
These are big changes IMO!

Here is a link to both of the SOS press releases.
http://www.sos.ca.gov/administration/news-releases-and-advisories/2016-news-releases-and-advisories/governor-brown-signs-landmark-election-reform-bill/
http://www.sos.ca.gov/administration/news-releases-and-advisories/2015-news-releases-and-advisories/governor-brown-signs-california-new-motor-voter-act/

Gregory

No one I see is trying to claim this as Red territory, Paul. I do see you and others desperate to claim the future as Blue, but for now, it's just Toss-Up. It tossed up for Clinton this time... what will happen in four years is anyone's guess.

How many times did I have to yank your chain this silly season, Paul? You kept insisting the election was over, the "pubbers" had to face reality and pull Trump from the ticket to avoid disaster. I kept telling you it was really close, you kept ridiculing the idea.

It was really close. The country has spoken.

Paul Emery

The country has spoken and the County has spoken. In two years the BOS will be Blue. I don't win them all but I have pretty good intuition in general. Trump now has to do the job so we'll see what adventures behold us. Should be fun.

Gregory

Pretty good intuition? Paul, you flamed out this year and you have a history of getting things backwards. I remember you once greeted me with the news that the GOP House was talking about impeaching Obama. I told you no, the Democrats were claiming the GOP was talking about impeachment but no Republican was. Which was it, Paul?

How many times did you, grinning like the Cheshire cat, tell me Trump was flaming out?

Nationally, the Dems have been counting on the Progressive arrow of history and demographics to bail them out. Good plan, didn't work, as their counting of eggs not hatched blinded them to their having hollowed out their party. It could be worse... the music in 1922 was actually pretty good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2RVZqRpnw8

Don Bessee

Aw shucks PE its only going to be 8 years, you are just going to have to listen to everyone who remembers your prognostications on the Presidential , Senate and House outcomes and the impending implosion of the Republicans as a Party. You were half right, the wrong party imploded in your party line narrative! Worse status of democrat lawmakers in the US since the 1920's ;-)

Paul Emery

Yeah Don, Trumps the President, that makes you a winner.

Paul Emery

County tossed up for Clinton Gregory? If the Country would have voted like Nevada County Nov 8 Clinton would have been President. How do you call that a toss up?

Todd Juvinall

DOnB he is delusional. Now he doesn't think Trump won. Amazing.

Paul Emery

Todd

Your guy Trump won. You're a winner. Congratulations My Guy Gary Johnson lost.

Gregory

Why are you so gooey over Trump? Have you been converted? I thought you voted for Johnson as well.

Todd Juvinall

Thanks for taking your meds and getting real finally Paul Emery.

Gregory

Paul, no majority in our little county. Low single digit plurality. Slight change in voter turnout, game change. Toss-Up.

"Gooey" for Trump? No, gooey for reality checks.

Paul Emery

So Gregory you must agree then that Trump has no plurality in the national vote. Latest has Trump with 46.5 and Clinton with 48.1. Not to dispute Trump won but plurality?

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

http://truthfeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Screen-Shot-2016-11-28-at-4.14.57-PM.png

George Rebane

Scenes 902am - Is this more evidence that Kaine is a functional idiot?

Gregory

So, by your local standards stretched for the country, we have a blue country! A bare plurality ... but the GOP has the presidency in 2017, the House, the Senate, governors, state governments.

It's 1920 a'gin.

What would the vote be without journalists in the tank for Democrats?

Without California, Hillary wouldn't have a plurality... Trump would. Would California stay blue if the state's journey to bankruptcy ended in financial ruin? Will it survive the implosion of the climate change scare as the state's organising principle? We shall see.

Gregory

Imagine a Kaine Presidency.

fish

Posted by: George Rebane | 29 November 2016 at 09:22 AM


Probably a combination of early confusion of circumstances surrounding the event coupled with desperately wanting it to be true!

Bill Tozer

It was just 8 years ago that all comers came over here to gleefully announce that the Republican Party would be nothing but a regional old white party of George Wallace in the old Confederate States. Long time no come see. Would take 20 years to even rear its head again. "Relegated to the dustbin of history" was the operative phrase.
It was just 6 years ago that the Tea Party was declared an Astro-Turf non-movement bankrolled by the ghost of George Wallace because the misfits could not stomach the idea of a clean light skinned Negro in the White House.
It was just 6 weeks ago that PE said something like "I appreciate your passion Bill, but Trump has zero change of winning." Zero chance, accept reality. Not to mention the resurrected narrative that the Republicans would be torn asunder, just a blood vessel of its former self, a once powerful political party....relegated and delegated to the dustbin of history. It's the demographics, stupid. No chance. The future is bleak at best. The Electoral College is all that matters, nothing else, you knuckledraggers. Crowd size and enthusiasm meant nothing you uneducated angry deplorables!!

Well, they got the angry part right. They also got the deplorable half right, and got the other half, the irredeemables, right as well. No agrument here. I like my lower companions.

It is a truism that liberalism means never having to say you're sorry. The new updated truism is liberalism means never having to admit you're wrong. Now, what is that definition of insanity that Dr. Rebane posts now and then? I could be wrong, but maybe liberalism is indeed a mental disease.

Don Bessee

Can someone please get PE some playdough and a puppy for his snowflake safe space? ;-)

Trigger warning, PRESIDENT TRUMP, come on Paul say it with us now, PRESIDENT TRUMP.

Paul Emery

He's your guy Don and he is President. What more can I say. He certainly reflects on the consciousness of those who support him. Have a great honeymoon.

Gregory

"He certainly reflects on the consciousness of those who support him."

ding ding ding ding

Give that man a kewpie doll for illustrating the snotty disdain the left has for the right!

Paul Emery

Snotty-I like that Gregory. Haven't heard that since third grade. Which "right" are you talking about? Certainly not Reagan Conservatives like Lindsey Graham who are also "snotty" to the Trump

WASHINGTON ― One of Donald Trump’s fiercest Republican critics, Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, said Tuesday that the president-elect should either provide evidence of his claims that millions of people voted illegally or stop spreading a false message.

“I don’t know what [Trump] is talking about,” Graham told The Huffington Post. “If he has evidence, bring it forward. If he doesn’t, he shouldn’t say things like that.”

Paul Emery

OR even the Newt. Snotty???? YOur call.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R) said tweeting a lie about voter fraud was the worst thing President-elect Donald Trump has done since winning the election.

While speaking Tuesday on USA Today’s “Capital Download,” Gingrich said presidents “can’t randomly tweet without having somebody check it out.”

“It makes you wonder about whatever else he’s doing,” Gingrich said. “It undermines much more than just a single tweet, so I’d say that’s probably the biggest single thing he’s done wrong.”

In a tweet Sunday afternoon, Trump alleged there were “millions of people who voted illegally” in this year’s presidential election. That claim has been rejected by a number of states, election law experts and lawmakers on both sides of the aisle.

fish

Yeah......and that honeymoon period Paul mentioned......it just got a lot shorter with the appointment of McConnells wife and Mnuchin at treasury (D-Goldman Sachs)!

Shit! He was doing so well too!

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 29 November 2016 at 03:38 PM

Lyndsey needs to chill out.....maybe bend a few pages in the congressional library.

Todd Juvinall

I like the tweets. Mostly because it makes him normal and he usually says what is popular or what regular folks are thinking or believing. The tweet on millions of voter frauds, why not? Why can't he say that? Many think it. And the left has always alleged it. And now today he said flag burning deserves a jail time stay or loss of citizenship. Same thing. Most people are into that. Paul Emery doesn't like Trump and has belittled him endlessly. I really don't care what he says. He lost with his toss away votes and we won. We get to see a bit of change.

Regarding Trump's picks today. I could care less that a Wall Streeter with a Trump crush is Treasury Secretary. And Elaine is fine, she worked as Bush's Labor gal and is all in for "right to work" and other stuff I support.

Bill Tozer

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/751825784967646/?type=3&theater

Gregory

PaulE 29 November 2016 at 03:38 PM

"Snotty-I like that Gregory. Haven't heard that since third grade. Which "right" are you talking about?"

Paul, let me help you with your vocabulary:
snotty
1. dirty with nasal discharge
2. slang contemptible; nasty
3. snobbish; conceited

Now, let's revisit my comment with your snotty remark:


"He certainly reflects on the consciousness of those who support him."

ding ding ding ding

Give that man a kewpie doll for illustrating the snotty disdain the left has for the right!

Can you hear me now?

Paul, that snotty remark (along with your long favored "Pubbies" diminutive) shows your essential contempt for folks who disagree with you culturally and politically, and that is, to a great extent, responsible for the Trump phenomenon. I doubt even many out and out Trumpers resemble Trump's consciousness at all. A Presidential vote isn't a vote for the guy most like you... LIB candidate Badnarik was perhaps my least favorite LIB candidate (besides Harry Browne in his second run) as if I thought a paunchy software engineer who didn't get out enough was a perfect candidate, I'd run for President myself. People vote for the candidate they think, in the Zeitgeist, is the most able to move the country forward.

Hillary could only beat the old socialist with cheating by Democratic Party insiders on her behalf, and with the overt help of what used to be a free and at least nominally balanced press that instead was part of her campaign team.

Both Trump and Sanders were outsiders (Sanders an outsider in that he'd basically had zero leadership impact on the Senate and wasn't a Democrat), and it was a year for outsiders. Clinton was the ultimate insider, especially for an outsider who really never was a leader in the Senate, her only elective office. She did like living in the White House for eight years despite her husband never winning a majority of the popular vote.

So, rather than "Pubbies" or other snotty remarks, how about just treating GOP voters and candidates like people? Is that really too much to ask for a local community radio news director?

Additional reading for the snotty left wishing to better understand what just happened to upend their world:
http://reason.com/blog/2016/11/09/trump-won-because-leftist-political-corr

Russ

Hmmm -- Going Blue has consequences

There are 3,141 counties in the United States.

Trump won 3,084 of them.

Clinton won 57, one of which was Nevada County.

After examining the social rot that exists in many of those Clinton Counties ones has to wonder what Nevada County's future is? Most of these Counties have been under Democratic thumbs for years, promoting progressive social structures that have encouraged the decline in standards, morals, dignity, religious faith, and governing by a decadent elite.

Will this be Nevada County's future?

Gregory

A 47%/44% Hillary/Trump split is far from a settled issue. That's Toss-Up territory.

The Blue Meanies are trying to lay claim to the future of the county and, more importantly, they wish to ignore their neighbors who disagree with them.

Think Pelline yelling at subordinates, browbeating people in the local news. Rubes don't get a say.

The Blue Meanies may prevail but the One Party State headquartered in Sacramento will not survive bankruptcy, nor will it survive the collapse of the Global Warming campaign. In fact, both may well hit simultaneously as Sacramento realizes there will be no payoff for leading the charge to a carbon free future.

What I've been hoping for since 1980 when I bailed from the Democratic Party is for the DP to implode, with the moderates becoming more libertarian, and either a competitive Libertarian Party or a Democratic Party redux back to its libertarian roots is the result. We may get there yet.

So far, despite the state being essentially bankrupt, they can still borrow money and write checks. Must be in good shape, we'll keep rearranging the Titanic's deck chairs to make it right.

Pelline will write anything to get his Blue Meanies ahead.

fish

jeffpelline says:

December 3, 2016 at 1:58 pm

Now Gregory “Independent Software Engineer at My Place”/still sore that Prop. 23 lost” Goodknight weighs in: “We have a toss up county, not Deep Blue.” No, Gregory, we have a ‘blue’ county, not “toss up” and not “deep blue.” You are the “outlier.”


Nevada County as a 974 square mile safe space for a delicate lad who is going to make sure you know exactly the shade of blue his county is......out to the second decimal place!

Gregory

Yes, Pelline's keeping with that big lie. No, I never promoted Prop 23, no, I was never mourning the loss. Unlike Pelline's readers who were sobbing for days after the Trump election, seeing the death of the future they knew they'd be waking up to after the election.

Poor cupcakes. Chamomile tea and puppies for everyone.

We'd have been better with Prop 23 gutting AB 32 temporarily, but it was a weaseling around a real debate over the Issue That Shall Not Be Discussed.

I was relieved when Trump won over Clinton, but 75% because of the Supreme Court, and 25% because Clinton would have been, hands down, the most corrupt President in our history. The problem the country (and the state) has going forward is that we've had our noses rubbed into the fact that across the country, journalism schools and newsrooms are breeding Little Pellines more interested in TRUTH (in the Pravda sense) than accurate and dispassionate reporting.

Gregory

Pelline trumped up an entire post about the gun violence incitement at Todd's blog becuse someone suggested a duel, with single shot black powder relics) between one GOP representative, and one Democrat.

I'm going to make a wild guess that Pelline really hated that, worrying there might not be enough DEM shooters in the risk pool for it to be a fair duel.

I'll go further... let's issue hunting licenses. Make them more expensive than a Bighorn Sheep tag. You can take down a Democrat, or a Republican. Your choice.

This is a variation of PJ O'Rourke's solution for Social Security insolvency... let the young take out the old people. The bonus for old folks was they could shoot back, and he was looking forward to taking out some Sinead O'Connor fans before he checked out himself.

One of the great truths of modern American politics... the hard left Democrats have no ability to laugh at themselves. No sense of humor pointed inwards by the hopelessly Politically Correct.

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