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18 November 2016

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Gregory

Now, that's just a bit cold, George.

For our hard left friends, I suggest "Happy Days Are Here Again" sung at a funeral dirge tempo by Barbra herself, 53 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA8OmK3qslw

Bill Tozer

Cold? From the sarcastic libertarian:

https://www.facebook.com/sarcasticlibertarian/photos/a.216455595183985.1073741828.216423098520568/656634927832714/?type=3&theater

Scott Obermuller

Don't be so sure - the Clintons still have goodness knows how many millions in their 'foundation'. A healthy percentage of Americans would still vote for either one tomorrow for pres and they know where soooo many bodies are buried. I know it will never be like Nixon. Everyone wrote him off after the loss in California, but he was a lot younger. This was it for Hillary as an elected official (I think) but I wouldn't be surprised if we see her pop up here and there on the news media and there is always Chelsea and the grandchild to groom as successors.
I don't care if O pardons her but I would like to see a full and complete opening of the books on her reign at the State Dept. Of course the books are in a king hell shredder as I type and I fear another round of hard drive failures is looming.
Lets take our pleasures as they come to us. Life is short and history always takes the long view. (of the winner)
Cheers

Walt

I was thinking about posting those vary words. (DING,DONG,, the witch is dead! ( at least politically) )
But didn't want to be accused of being a prick, and kicking our Lefties in the happy sack for a second time in one night.
Besides. That one was used already when Nancy Pelosi got tossed from power.

Hillary is still working on finding a new home. One without extradition agreements with the U.S. The old bat is really looking rough. See her in her last public "viewing"? A Troll would burn his own bridge in fright.

Walt

Trump isn't even President yet, but his policies are already paying dividends.
Reports of illegals already headed home, manufacturing deciding that moving to Mexico isn't the hot idea it used to be, the dollar is stronger, and LIBS are nutting up more than usual. The dis-information game LIB news is playing, just ain't working.

It's time to kick back and watch. This is where I say,, "Called this one!"

And to our Dearest "jon".. HA HA!! Wrong from day one.. I warned you to NEVER doubt me. Did you take that advice? nope...
Yes.. There WILL be gloating. Deal with it.(that goes for all the Hillbots)
When LIBS win it's "sit down and shut up. WE won." When LIBS lose, The Right is supposed to be nice and let them have a say... BITE ME!
Elections have consequences.(recall those words?)

This will be an "E" ticket ride at Disneyland of politics. (House of horrors for the Left.)

Bill Tozer

Walt, today I heard a word that I had to look up. It's called magnanimous. Means we won, but just don't gloat. We mustn't treat sick people that way. Ah, what the hay, be a prick and screw them. They are about to do the Bork thang on Senator Jeff Sessions and I will certainly have a ball with that. Sessions single handedly broke the back of the KKK in Alabama and that nice 20 million fine he slapped on them after the death penalty(?) conviction of their leader put them out of business. Bork Jeff Sessions to test Trump to if Trump knuckles under like a normal Prez. Or, just cause they are despicable people. Bring it on. Oh,....did you know the KKK smokes pot? Learn something new every day.

Walt, I need to process the significance of the election. This might take more time to process than a week, but being a prick for two days is just part of the healing. :)

https://www.facebook.com/UncleSamsMisguidedChildren.Net/photos/a.169953786533962.1073741830.169676909894983/585803818282288/?type=3&theater

Walt

Don't gloat?,, HA!! They have it coming. Payback's a bitch. We had to put up with theirs,, PLENTY of times. You know damned well if Hillary had won,(shuddering at the thought) they would be rubbing our noses in it. ( do unto your opponent as they would do you.) After all these years, look what playing Mr. Nice Guy has got us. LIBS never gave an inch. Why the hell should the Right? It bit them in the ass every time.

Bill Tozer

Well my brother Walt, then let it all out. A decade or more of taking it does have a way of building up. Every time we were nice and went along to get along, they got more vile, more crazy with hate, more drunk with power, more arrogant and condenscending. Here, let me join ya if I may:

The Left wants a living breathing Constitution so they can abort it.

Now they are upset that they do not get to tell us who to put in the cabinet. Hey, Leftists, you have no say in who the NSA dude is. Don't need confirmation. Heard he called Islam a cancer that hides behind religion. That is how to win friends and influence people. :). Next they will be bitching that there are too many men in the inner circle, not enough women and brown folks and no tranny babies. They are real pissed that we haven't played nice (yet) per usual and put one of them Stalinists or Maoists to head a department or two. Boy, what ever got into us?? Bad Righties, bad!

Now is a good time to thank our current President, President Barack Hussein Obama. He gave us a fantastic suggestion. Did we do good, did we Mr. President?
Mark the tape!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q3GJhUkLr0

Don Bessee

Bannon talked to the WSJ and one of his quotes was " we are going to bring democracy to the inner city ". ;-)

Ben Emery

George,
I think more than anything it is those like yourself and like minded thinkers to get on board. What we have seen are those on the "supposedly left" will not disrupt their comfortable lifestyles to enact change. They wrap it up in a bunch of feel good language and continue the same policies.

The solution is simple but the implementation is very hard, we need to change the way the entire population looks at our miracle of a planet as our only boat and change the incentives that promotes sustainable practices. In other words we need to reenter into the cycle and stop trying to dominate it.

Hard work put towards this goal will achieve a more equitable global population while beginning to repair the damage our well intentioned but ultimately long term failure of industrial revolution practices.

Please take an hour and watch this film, I think you'll find it very interesting at the least. Despite my overall dislike of the World Bank I do have to hand this project and most likely many more like it to them. Kudos and we much much more like it. Hope you take the time.

I hope you have a Great Thanksgiving.

http://eempc.org/lessons-of-the-loess-plateau/

I think

Scott Obermuller

Ben at 5:45 "The solution is simple but the implementation is very hard, we need to change the way the entire population looks at our miracle of a planet as our only boat and change the incentives that promotes sustainable practices. In other words we need to reenter into the cycle and stop trying to dominate it."
Well said, Ben - every child in the govt school system in the US is probably learning to recite something very much like that. You forgot to add the part about correcting the evils of the white males, but I'm sure that part will be added in somewhere.
As soon as I hear anyone say that 'we need to change our thinking' I suspect it will involve thinking exactly like the person doing the talking.
I'm sure you mean well and we can certainly agree broadly on a number of well-intentioned goals, but I suspect your path to these goals will somehow involve transferring my labor and wealth to other parties who will decide for me the best use of our resources.
The left stubbornly refuses to take into account that you are dealing with human nature.

Gregory


Ben will not be a happy camper with EPA regs on CO2 being rolled back starting sometime in January.

Our planet will be just fine.

Bill Tozer

Ben, we got our lands full exacting change as we speak. You know, doing the culture, language, borders thing. Little busy right now. Be a dear and check back later. Thanks. And Happy Thanksgiving Feast to you as well.

fish

Screw politics, economics, and society in general......I'm off to try the gridiron!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2016/11/19/joe-thomas-55-years-old-south-carolina-state/94128238/

Walt

Yup, I was right. Dirty Harry left the door wide open.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/19/rule-change-pushed-by-harry-reid-could-allow-trump-to-get-all-of-his-appointments-confirmed/

fish

Posted by: Walt | 19 November 2016 at 01:43 PM


Yep! The schadenfreude is absolutely delicious!

Bill Tozer

V
https://www.lifezette.com/polizette/trump-effect-pentagon-will-stop-buying-russian-helicopters/

Bill Tozer

V
http://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/dakota-meyer-uninvited-marine-corps-ball

Walt

It's not looking good for the Left.
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/11/21/dem-rep-ryan-the-house-is-burning-down-in-democratic-party-were-going-to-cease-being-a-national-party/

Scott Obermuller

Required reading for all - yes, everyone.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/real-war-science-14782.html
From a contributing science columnist in the NYTs, so you know he's ultra, ultra right wing.
More examples of the lefts' tactics of smear as science.
Just as the Roman Catholic Church became (at one time) all-powerful and corrupt, the left-wing humanists are at work destroying science and our future.

Gregory

City Journal is solidly on the right but always with an interesting take.

I think it was someone here who provided a link to a survey of academic disciplines and their politics; if that person could again furnish a link I'd be grateful.

One of the more interesting pidgeonholes was astrophysics, virtually all left wing, nearing 99 44/100 %... incredible. I can think of one exception, Willie Soon of Harvard/Smithsonian infamy... but Soon has also been a major target of folks that hate his rejection of climate change dogma, and some of the best known warmistas have been astrophysicists large (James Hansen, PhD, formerly of NASS-GISS) and small (James Cook, proprietor of the wretchedly misnamed Skeptical Science, a BS in astrophysics but now a PhD in physical science free climate propaganda).

fish

Say what you want about Kunstlers dodgy grasp of thermodynamics.....he sure do write a first rate smackdown!


"America didn’t get what it expected, but perhaps it got what it deserved, good and hard. Daddy’s in the house and he busted straight into the nursery and now the little ones are squalling in horror. Mommy was discovered to be a grifting old jade who ran the household into a slum and she’s been turned out to solemnly await the judgment of the courts, nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. The kids on campus have gone temporarily insane over this domestic situation and some wonder if they’ll ever get over it.

Trump as The USA’s Daddy? Well, yeah. Might he turn out to be a good daddy? A lot of people worry that he can’t be. Look how he behaved on the campaign trail: no behavioral boundaries… uccchhh. He even lurches as he walks, like Frankenstein. Not very reassuring — though it appears that somehow he raised up a litter of high-functioning kids of his own. Not a tattoo or an earplug among them. No apparent gender confusion. All holding rather responsible positions in the family business. Go figure….

Judging from the internal recriminations among Democratic Party partisans playing out in the newspapers, it’s as if they all woke up simultaneously from a hypnotic trance realizing what an absolute dud they put up for election in Hillary Clinton — and even beyond that obvious matter, how deeply absurd Democratic ideology had become with its annoying victimology narrative, the incessant yammer about “diversity” and “inclusion,” as if pixie dust were the sovereign remedy for a national nervous breakdown. But can they move on from there? I’m not so sure.

For all practical purposes, both traditional parties have blown themselves up. The Democratic Party morphed from the party of thinking people to the party of the thought police, and for that alone they deserve to be flushed down the soil pipe of history where the feckless Whigs went before them. The Republicans have floundered in their own Special Olympics of the Mind for decades, too, so it’s understandable that they have fallen hostage to such a rank outsider as Trump, so cavalier with the party’s dumb-ass shibboleths. It remains to be seen whether the party becomes a vengeful, hybrid monster with an orange head, or a bridge back to reality. I give the latter outcome a low percentage chance.

Mommy is all about feelings and Daddy’s role is action and that is another reason that Hillary lost and Trump won. We’ve heard enough about people’s feelings and it just doesn’t matter anymore. You’re offended? Suck an egg. Someone appropriated your culture? Go shit in your sombrero. What matters is how we’re going to contend with the winding down of Modernity — the techno-industrial orgy that is losing its resource and money mojo. The politics of sacred victimhood has got to yield to the politics of staying alive.

President-elect Trump may not know it yet, but events are now in charge, not personalities, not even his super-sized persona. Global trade and economic activity have been winding down all year and it’s finally affecting financial markets kept aloft on borrowed money, sending a strong signal through bonds that the borrowed money may never be paid down, and that additional borrowing will cost a whole lot more — so much more that it will bankrupt the nations that issue it.

That alone will make it difficult for a President Trump to scare up the ready cash for the infrastructure-rebuilding fiesta so many expect. And if he does manage to flush the funding out of the banking thickets, it is liable to carry an inflationary bird flu that will end up killing money all around the world. We won’t be worrying about Trans Pacific Partnerships anymore because letters-of-credit will be unavailable to move large shipments of anything from Point A to Point B. How long after that will it be before the supermarket shelves empty down? And in the event, what will the dollar buy?

It looks like the shit sandwich President Obama has carefully prepared and left in the White House pantry for his successor will take the form of inflation, the dying of your money — or, at least, paper currency. Or, if it doesn’t die outright, prepare for the possibility that you might not be able to get your hands on it, as money markets gate their exits and banks restrict cash withdrawals.

Though it’s clearly a loser strategy now, I suspect that the ragged remains of the Democratic Party will persist in amping up their sacred identity grievances to the point of civil strife without ever understanding the economic dynamics in motion. They don’t know what else to do. Plus, they are captives of the poverty policy racketeers. I also suspect that neither Mr. Obama or Mr. Trump will get around to pardoning Hillary Clinton for the racketeering operation of her foundation, of which the private email server was the least issue — rather, the arrant sale of influence and access to the State Department is the heart of the matter, and anyone paying attention knows it, including the incoming Attorney General. If that circus comes to town, Trump could benefit from the distraction it offers the public.

There’s a lot of talk on the Net about Strauss and Howe’s “Fourth Turning” taking stage now. That excellent book, published twenty years ago, posits the turbulent end of 80-year generational cycles in history. (Blogger Jim Quinn lays it out nicely this week at The Burning Platform). Previous Fourth Turning presidents Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt took the nation through epic bloodbaths and economic dislocation. Donald Trump in terms of demeanor is no Lincoln and no FDR. But he did raise up those children of his somehow, and that’s all we’ve got to go on for the moment.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-21/kunstler-obamas-shit-sandwich-why-events-are-now-charge-not-personalities


Meanwhile.....local idiot comments about Facebook!

jeffpelline says:

November 21, 2016 at 1:05 pm

If you ever thought Todd was lonely and isolated, read his Facebook page. It is the most pathetic thing ever. No likes. No comments. No nothing.


Facebook.......? Are you fucking menopausal?

Todd Juvinall

He is truly odd. For a person to look at someone's FB to see the traffic, or to judge by that, is trul mental. He doesn't even have one as I was told he had no firends. LOL! He lives a truly sad life. And to never see your feet must be really scary.

Bill Tozer

-----Follow up to 6:12:
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/746724988811059/?type=3&theater

-----Reply to 6:58 pm. Did you check out his My Space page?

-----Trigger warning: adolescent behavior.: Time to bath in "jon's" tears.
http://heatst.com/life/trump-fans-cheer-demise-of-make-donald-drumpf-again-hat-manufacturer/?mod=sm_fb_post

-----What legacy?
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/957450444388993/?type=3&theater

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVcKsecg2Uk

Walt

Nice find Scenes,,, Now that's what I call a First Lady.

Scott Obermuller

France could possibly elect their first female pres?
And the American leftistas are all for it, right?
Well, not so much. But, but, what happened to all of their principles?
The American left has no frickin' principles.
The glass ceiling is held in place by the left until they see a female that will toe the male left-wing line. Same goes for non-whites and such.
Total hypocrisy.

Bill Tozer

The glass ceiling was shattered by Sir Edmund Hillary on May 29, 1953.

I don't need to even read this link. Think some noses are going to get goodand bloodied. Maybe some teeth busted up. Nah, they will never learn, which works to our advantage.

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/cnn-sees-twitter-backlash-over-jews-people-headline-233547124.html

Scott Obermuller

Sir Edmund just copied the Rodhams in the USA and gave himself that name. Then he crawled under machine gun fire at an air force base in Little Rock while he set up a fund to help the children. If you doubt any of this, you are alt-right and a deplorable!

Bill Tozer

Reaching way back in history, you should be aware that the glass ceiling was supposed to break (candy glass I reckon) and fall upon Hillary as she stands on the big blue America on the blessed night. That seems so long ago. Nov. 8, 2016, The Year of the Reckoning.

"Clinton will eventually make her way to the Javits Center in Manhattan for an election-night party.
The location is freighted with symbolism -- after spending the campaign talking about trying to break the "glass ceiling" by becoming the first female president, she'll stand under a literal glass ceiling."

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-election-day-2016-hillary-clinton-election-1478625771-htmlstory.html

Some people don't like surprises neither do they take rejection well.

Todd Juvinall

God Bless JFK.

Gregory

Anybody hearing from Boardman since he went all cash for his investments? Just wondering if he got back in before today's crossing 19,000.

Russ

There is a lot of chatter in the press about faults news stories. The press is saying that Trump has reversed his position on climate change, trying to drive a wedge between him and his supporters. Then there is the rest of the story.

Media falsely spins Trump’s NYT climate comments – Trump cited Climategate, restated skepticism of ‘global warming’ – Read full transcript

http://www.climatedepot.com/2016/11/23/fake-news-update-media-falsely-spins-trumps-climate-comments-read-full-nyt-transcript/

George Boardman

Re Russ @ 8:31 a.m.

A reading of the transcript of Trump's interview with the New York Times clearly shows that he has backed off his flat-out campaign assertion that climate change is a hoax created by the Chinese.

Trump said at least twice during the interview that he has an "open mind" on the subject of climate change and that he will look carefully at the Paris agreement. You can massage it anyway you like, but it won't change what he said.

I'm willing to bet the EPA will be here four years from now and Trump will have to find that $30 billion somewhere else to build his "big, beautiful" wall.

Walt

You have bigger things to worry about Boardman.
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/11/23/cnns-sanders-we-dont-need-white-people-leading-the-democratic-party-right-now/

LIB news will say anything right now to make you happy. From the impeachment of Trump, to threatening the lives of electoral college voters.

Some homework for ya' Boardman,,, as of today, how many court battles has "O" lost VS winning?.
How many of "O"'s executive orders is Trump planning of doing away with on day one?

Russ

Mr Boardman, did you actually read the transscript? I agree that Mr Trump said he had an open mind, meaning that he is willing to look at both sides of the argument, but is already concerned given the fraud reveiled in the ClimateGate Emails. I would not put too much in what Trump says, and watch his actions. He made it clear he was going to strip NASA of their Earth Science Mission which focuses on global temperature mantoring and return NASA focus to it's deep space mission. Watch and see who he selects to lead the EPA, it is looking like some stong anti-anthopogenice global warming scientists are being considered. Lets see if you and the left keep an open mind.

George Boardman

"I would not put too much in what Trump says." Russ, that's all you've been doing since he announced his candidacy.

A-mazing.

Todd Juvinall

But, but, but, Mr. Boardman, Russ backed the winner. You didn't. Maybe Russ has a leg up on you?

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK2JorTj018

Walt

From that video, and others like it, you would think Trump will declare open season on the Left, and every redneck is in line waiting for those tags.

Don Bessee

You can understand why Boardman is so prickly given the market rally right after the peevish liquidation of his stock portfolio.

Readers of RR know the Dark Lord of Liberal Lament Land is again way behind the flow of discussion regarding Boardman's financial planning skills from a couple of weeks ago. What's next, the Dark Lord will news flash that Trump won? ;-)

Bill Tozer

Gregory:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/trump-picks-billionaire-betsy-devos-school-voucher-advocate-as-education-secretary/2016/11/23/c3d66b94-af96-11e6-840f-e3ebab6bcdd3_story.html

Walt

I will give Boardman a break for a while.... OK,, long enough,,,
OK OH wise one.(term used real loosely) Which would you rather have? Global cooling, or warming?? and DO say why.
I personally would take the warming, over freezing my nuts off.

Bill Tozer

Happy Thanksgiving Day tomorrow all human beings who read this.

Remember those who will not be joining us this year due to events beyond their control.

https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913.80726.51560645913/10154202095625914/?type=3&theater

Happy Thanksgiving to My Gal as well.
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/747334662083425/?type=3&theater


Walt

Same to you Brother Bill. This years bird was home grown.
Have a safe holiday.

Gregory

Tozer, I had a note regarding Common Core math sent off to the proposed Ed Sec'y before 1PM.

I'm not sure what to make of the nominee but considering how the teacher's unions are screaming, she can't be all bad.

Bill Tozer

@ 8:06PM. Oh ye of little faith: a little homework. :)

DeVos said in her post that while she supports "high standards, strong accountability, and local control," Common Core "turned into a federalized boondoggle.
"Have organizations that I have been a part of supported Common Core? Of course," DeVos said. "But that's not my position. Sometimes it's not just students who need to do their homework."

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/betsy-devos-education-secretary-trump-231804


Bill Tozer

Back at ya, Brother Walt, and all you deplorable sumbitches like Fish and.....well, back at you Walt and Co.

-------Paul. Thinking of ya so I went to an English dictionary. And all this time I thought it meant "to change color". Learn something new everyday.

Did You Know?
Livid has a colorful history. The Latin adjective lividus means "dull, grayish, or leaden blue." From this came the French livide and eventually the English "livid," which was used to describe flesh discolored by a bruise when it was first recorded in the early 17th century. A slight extension of meaning gave it the sense "ashen or pallid," as used in describing a corpse. "Livid" eventually came to be used in this sense to characterize the complexion of a person pale with anger ("livid with rage"). From this meaning came two new senses in the 20th century. One was "reddish," as one is as likely to become red with anger as pale; the other was simply "angry" or "furious," the most common sense of the word today. Bruised up and pissed off works for me. Happy T-Day.

Walt

It might be past Boardman's bedtime, but just in case he's still prowling the halls,
http://www.climatedepot.com/2016/11/23/fake-news-update-media-falsely-spins-trumps-climate-comments-read-full-nyt-transcript/

Russ

Mr Boardman, Trump also told resident NYT warmist Tom Friedman: ‘A lot of smart people disagree with you’ on climate change during the interview.

Once again, Trump was accurate as very prominent scientists are bailing out of the so-called climate “consensus.”

Renowned Princeton Physicist Freeman Dyson: ‘I’m 100% Democrat and I like Obama. But he took the wrong side on climate issue, and the Republicans took the right side’

Nobel Prize-Winning Scientist Dr. Ivar Giaever, Who Endorsed Obama Now Says Prez. is ‘Ridiculous’ & ‘Dead Wrong’ on ‘Global Warming’

Green Guru James Lovelock reverses belief in ‘global warming’: Now says ‘I’m not sure the whole thing isn’t crazy’ – Condemns green movement: ‘It’s a religion really, It’s totally unscientific’

Climate Statistics Professor Dr. Caleb Rossiter of American University: 'Obama has long been delusional on this issue. Anyone who believes we are in a climate catastrophe, I think is deluding themselves.'

According to Wikipedia there are more working scientist who disagree with the climate "consensus"

Khabibullo Abdusamatov, astrophysicist at Pulkovo Observatory of the Russian Academy of Sciences[75][76]

Sallie Baliunas, retired astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics[77][78][79]

Timothy Ball, historical climatologist, and retired professor of geography at the University of Winnipeg[80][81][82]

Ian Clark, hydrogeologist, professor, Department of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa[83][84]

Chris de Freitas, associate professor, School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science, University of Auckland[85][86]

David Douglass, solid-state physicist, professor, Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Rochester[87][88]

Don Easterbrook, emeritus professor of geology, Western Washington University[89][90]

William Happer, physicist specializing in optics and spectroscopy; emeritus professor, Princeton University[91][92]

Ole Humlum, professor of geology at the University of Oslo[93][94]
Wibjörn Karlén, professor emeritus of geography and geology at the University of Stockholm.[95][96]

William Kininmonth, meteorologist, former Australian delegate to World Meteorological Organization Commission for Climatology[97][98]

David Legates, associate professor of geography and director of the Center for Climatic Research, University of Delaware[99][100]

Anthony Lupo, professor of atmospheric science at the University of Missouri[101][102]

Tad Murty, oceanographer; adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa[103][104]

Tim Patterson, paleoclimatologist and professor of geology at Carleton University in Canada.[105][106]

Ian Plimer, professor emeritus of mining geology, the University of Adelaide.[107][108]

Arthur B. Robinson, American politician, biochemist and former faculty member at the University of California, San Diego[109][110]

Murry Salby, atmospheric scientist, former professor at Macquarie University and University of Colorado[111][112]

Nicola Scafetta, research scientist in the physics department at Duke University[113][114][115]

Tom Segalstad, geologist; associate professor at University of Oslo[116][117]

Nir Shaviv, professor of physics focusing on astrophysics and climate science at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem[118][119]

Fred Singer, professor emeritus of environmental sciences at the University of Virginia[120][121][122][123]

Willie Soon, astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics[124][125]

Roy Spencer, meteorologist; principal research scientist, University of Alabama in Huntsville[126][127]

Henrik Svensmark, physicist, Danish National Space Center[128][129]
George H. Taylor, retired director of the Oregon Climate Service at Oregon State University[130][131]

Jan Veizer, environmental geochemist, professor emeritus from University of Ottawa[132][133]

I think that Trump is open minded and he is well aware that multiple scientists disagree with the lefty anthropogenic warming consensus. Why would he change is mind after a conversation with Obama and the NYT Editorial staff.

Walt

Is it Christmas already? Seems there are plenty of presents for Boardman. Here. Let me throw one more under his tree.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/11/24/no-donald-trump-hasnt-suddenly-gone-soft-global-warming/

George Rebane

Russ 1251pm - Thank you again Russ. The evidence of reputable scientists not accepting the warmists' hysteria is overwhelming to all but the true believers (almost all of whom have no idea of the technologies and sciences involved). I'm afraid that Mr Boardman is among the unreachables with such data. Nevertheless, continuing the attempt earns one heaven points.

Walt

And two more lumps of coal for the AGW fire.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tokyo-gets-november-snow-first-time-54-years-062423340.html

http://www.climatedepot.com/2016/11/24/antarctic-sea-ice-has-not-shrunk-in-100-years/

George Rebane

Walt 332pm - there you go again with facts. Nice try Mr Branson.

Gregory

The list is missing a few prominent names, physicists Richard Lindzen and Eigil Friis-Christensen, biogeographer Philip Stott. Stott and Lindzen in particular, with the late author Dr. Michael Crichton, dismantled NASA-GISS luminary Gavin Schmidt in a debate almost 10 years ago at IntelligenceSquared, teaching Schmidt to avoid public discussions with the learned opposing side.

Schmidt has recently warned Trump not to cut his funding. This should be fun to watch.

As a whole, active Democrats are unreachable on the AGW front; it could be one of the final nails in their coffins if the GOP plays them right and Mother Nature complies with election cycles as Solar Cycle 24 winds down.

The Democratic Party is fully invested in the AGW story; I don't know how they could back down no matter the evidence, especially in California.

Tokyo snow is weather and as we all know, weather is not climate unless it is unusually warm.

Russ

Gregory,

I agree Richard Lindzen and Eigil Friis-Christensen should have been on the list for the reasons you stated.

There is a very interesting discussion of solar cycles here, including the comments to the post. https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/11/24/the-bray-hallstatt-cycle/

Bill Tozer

And now a word from the other side of the aisle.

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-fools-the-new-york-times-on-climate-change-180323fa5980?ref=yfp#.2eyd2lt49

Bill Tozer

Walt, must be an ancestral Viking thing.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=03gxncRSJkU

If that's a Tuesday night, wonder what a Saturday night sounds like.

Walt

Just a Swedish mating call Bill.

Gregory

Well, I think it's time visit Mr. Pink, who is on a rampage over The Union editorial regarding the $47 million bond that is still in the lurch, Measure B. Pelline takes his former employer to task, lauding some of the comments by the usual suspect but singling out Greg Zaller for a discouraging word saying the following was the only comment that was not cogent:

Greg Zaller · California State University, Chico I opposed Measure B primarily because borrowing money like this, as opposed to a pay as you go tax, is terribly wasteful and there is frightfully little oversight.

But of course, Zaller was the only sane voice. The district "fact sheet" was awfully specific that none of the $47 million could go towards administrator salaries or pensions... but anyone with a sense of how big money is fungible in big budgets would understand that it doesn't have to be taken from the Measure B pocket to be enabled by it... and they didn't even try to claim they wouldn't be paying current teacher and support staff salaries, benefits or pensions out of it.

They will be back for more.

Gregory

Pelline also wonders why The Union didn't push for B harder... I guess they aren't just willing to throw money away because a local district decided their current revenue wasn't enough and they wanted a quick infusion.

Zaller was absolutely right... the interest on the bond will about double the ultimate cost to taxpayers over a pay as you go, like the library sales tax increase which, in essence, allows the County to spend the amount the sales tax brings in on other things... like CalPERS supplemental assessments.

Todd Juvinall

Kind of cute. A little poem


THE ELECTION IS OVER,
THE NAME CALLING'S DONE
YOUR PARTY LOST
MY PARTY WON
SO LET US BE FRIENDS
LET ARGUMENTS PASS
I”LL HUG MY ELEPHANT
YOU KISS YOUR ASS

Gregory

This sandbox is getting a bit funky, needs scooping.

I was hoping for a Royal Flush over at His Majesty's, with all five of the indexed comments Jeff talking to himself but, alas, that was ruined by the Keachie himself. As a consolation prize, I commend him for yet another post on Education by a Real Retired Educator that gets it all wrong. He wrote,

Common Core has several objectives. First the notion is there that all students, in a world where parents may have to job hop across the country often in order to stay employed. deserve to at least have instruction in the key subjects of English and Math. locked down to goals for each grade level, regardless of text or teacher,

This avoids situations in which, for example, students learn fractions twice, and miss decimals altogether.

So far, it has mostly created situations where students avoid ever really learning how to manipulate fractions or perform long divisions.

The second area of importance is the redesign of teaching some areas, such as elementary math. in ways that will lead to much easier teaching and comprehension of complex concepts of advanced math. What appears to be unnecessary obfuscation to parents who learned old math and then found Algebra and Caculus [sic] “too hard,” is in fact the royal “easier” road to success in STEM subjects later on.

The obfuscation readily apparent to those skilled in math is core to the constructivist, or "discovery methods" preferred by the National Council of Teachers of Mathematics (NCTM) Standards; the NCTM represents math teachers and education departments who loved whole math and whole language. These set California back ten years when a guy named Phil Daro poured them into California's 1992 Mathematics Framework for the state's Dept of Ed. Daro, who entered UC Berkeley in the early 60's intending to become a physicist, then changed majors to math but ending an English major, doesn't have the education required to teach math at NU or Ghiddotti, yet the State trusted the document (a veritable paen to the NCTM) on how to teach math to all kids in California Public Schools.

The '92 Framework was mute on what math kids needed to learn but spent 200 pages on how it should be taught. Hint: lots of drawings, groupwork and calculators on the shared worktables even for the 1st graders; actually doing the math, not so much.

Fun! and Mathematical Power! were the rallying cry. My son entered the 1st grade at Hennessey the year MathLand was introduced across all grades in the GVSD, and entered 2nd grade at Grass Valley's own St. Sensible a year later because of MathLand. By the standardized test our St. Sensible gave (identical to the initial STAR exam chosen by the state two+ years later), he was already significantly behind in math, despite doing two years of MathLand.

Fast forward to 2008 when something like $300 million of Bill & Melinda Gate's money started towards pushing the Common Core brainchild of a couple of progressive 501c3's in Washington DC. Untainted by any real state involvement until they were finished, the Common Core State Standards for Mathematics needed a real expert to chair their drafting, and they hired a real gem to do it: the same Phil Daro who so damaged California's math education, the same Phil Daro who still lacked any degrees in mathematics... just the BA English he managed to escape with when he found writing sonnets to be more enjoyable than doing physics or math.

One has to remember that the later decades of the 21st century are not going to be your grandpa’s Global Economy.

Yes, but the Common Core is the Royal Road to ruin, not science and math. Even CCSS-M co-chair and co-lead author, mathematical physicist Jason Zimba was careful to note that the Common Core was only meant to be a minimum for entry into non-competitive schools (like our community and state colleges), not the sort of colleges parents wish to be open to their children. Not the Cals, not the CalTechs. Not even the University of Southern North Dakota at Hoople. "STEM"? Common Core Math delays Algebra for a year, to the 9th grade, and that's for a watered down algebra loaded with inductive lessons, eschewing the deductive approaches that have long been the standard for college preparatory sequences, not to mention general education sequences. What discovery methods most resemble are remedial education methods and one of the Common Core texts dating back to the beginnings of the NCTM Standards in 1989 is the wretchedly misnamed "College Preparatory Math" (CPM) from a company in Davis, not a part of the UC in town.

CPM was actually formulated to be a remedial program for kids who had fallen far behind... no, it doesn't prepare them, or anyone else, for a college and beyond career in math and the sciences.

I know of some math professors at rather good schools who are fully expecting Common Core to have created a slow motion collapse in American education and, after years of grappling with the beast, have come to the conclusion that only a collapse will lead to a real reform, sweeping out the entrenched incompetence in K-12. One shining light on the horizon is that a bright fellow from the Hoover Institute, Williamson "Bill" Evers, a founder of HOLD of Palo Alto, the first parent's group protesting hole math and language circa 1995, has been leading the Trump transition for the Education department.

We live in interesting times.

George Rebane

Gregory 0111pm - Good post. It deserves to inaugurate the, per your request, new 27nov16 sandbox.

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