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09 November 2016

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Bob Hobert

I'm expecting God to contact me soon about those earnest promises I made to him late yesterday afternoon.

George Rebane

BobH 355pm - Yes, I expect He will be working His way down a long list of names.

Todd Juvinall

Sheriff Joe of Maricopa County endorsed Trump. Now I see he was defeated for re-election. The man is a institution and a hero. Sorry Joe, we will miss you and your vigorous defense of America's borders.

George Rebane

ToddJ 723pm - Sad news indeed Todd, and doubly so for what it portends for the attitude of Americans on the frontier of illegal entrants. Hopefully the promise of our new president to make our borders sacrosanct will compensate for the loss.

Don Bessee

Soros put 2 mil into anti Sheriff joe ads. I am surfing the left for giggles, Rachel Madow is advocating the left go to the bunkers. She is trying to sell that all the protests are organic and spontaneous. Too bad she does not do opposition research. CNN had their guy at Trump tower talking to a dem organizer who proudly declared that they are organized and planned all this. In addition she said they have much more planned. ;-)

fish

Now that the shouting is over let us ponder the Chicago connection.....


SO BEFORE THE ELECTION THE PRESS WAS ALL “IF TRUMP LOSES, WILL HIS SUPPORTERS ACCEPT IT LIKE GOOD AMERICANS, OR REACT LIKE VIOLENT REDNECKS?” And now that he’s won: Tens of Thousands Protest Trump Election Victory, 124 Arrested.

Will anyone blame Hillary for her campaign’s fear-mongering rhetoric that incited this reaction? And is Jan Schakowsky’s (D-IL) husband Robert Creamer involved in promoting violence post-election the way he was when he was working for Hillary’s campaign?

Flashback: Dem Operative Who Oversaw Trump Rally Agitators Visited White House 342 Times. I mean, maybe this stuff is all spontaneous, but once you’re caught stirring up violence against your opponents, it’s hard to escape suspicion when it happens again.


From the always invaluable Instapundit!

Barry Pruett

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/11/sneering-response-trumps-victory-reveals-exactly-won/

Best article yet.

Brad C

Looks like Trump will be busy defending himself against lawsuits (and he cannot say it was a vast leftwing conspiracy against him- just Mexican judges with grudges).

We will have to wait to see if Melania gives the White House accommodations 3, 4, or 5 stars today. She may prefer to stay down the street at the new Trump hotel. They could always airBnB the White House I guess.

BTW- where are the tax returns?

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trump-university-lawsuit-heads-toward-nov-28-trial-085926733--politics.html

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-10/anti-trump-protests-continue-across-us-overnight-burn-american-flags-disrupt-traffic

Barry Pruett

This election has unbelievably fired up the left. The elitist (both local and nationally) have a smug disdain for regular, everyday folks (locally) and middle America (nationally). These elitist would prefer that only the "clean and washed" highly educated be in charge. This preference shows their true fear - they don't like democracy and fear that democracy does not work. They would prefer that they (the elites) tell the "redneck masses" who curiously believe in God how to live.

I went home to the Midwest for a while this winter when my uncle passed. At the barber shop before the funeral, I got an earful about elites and "you people in California." At that moment I knew Trump had a chance. These folks were pissed.

This election was middle America giving the elitist on the coasts the finger. Pretty simple.

fish

Posted by: Brad C | 10 November 2016 at 07:56 AM


Not likely much will come of it until after he leaves office.


http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2016/11/09/431884.htm

Todd Juvinall

I'd like to see Trump appoint Sheriff Joe to run the Border Patrol. And of course drop the lawsuits against him. That would be so rich. A thumb in Obama and Holder's eye.

Bill Tozer

Some people do not take disappointment graciously. Some are in denial and need time to process this news. Others are encased in the bubble from whence they rule the roost.. They will really go bonkers if they perceive that they and their message has been rejected. But no worries. They will never believe that they and their message has been reject. No, its Trump's fault. It's a messaging problem, not the message.

Reality is a difficult concept to wrap their heads around. Their sickness will grow worse with time. They need a bigger safe zone.

Brad C

Sheriff Joe needs to go - for God's sake man, the guy is 84 years old!

Russ

The Lame Stream Press got the Presidential election wrong and now they are telling us all the things that are going to happen due to an event they could not see coming.

https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/796229381114859520

I doubt they have any more accurate insight now than they did before the election. It will be fact free scare mongering for the next four years or more.

Brad C

Posted by: Barry Pruett | 10 November 2016 at 08:18 AM

Barry, are the barbershop quartets in the farm belt saying Trump is not an elitist and every person in positions within Republican halls of power and influence were culled from the farms and steel mills of the red states?

Trump went to Wharton. These days it is a top-five business school. Trump is hardly 'working class' - he just pandered to them to win the election.

That said, I am not totally freaked out about the things he has said. I think the Middle Easterners, generally, need to fight their own wars - just keep the oil flowing, thank you.

I think if the Trump of Oceania, President Rodrigo Duterte, wants the US out of the Philippines, we should close Subic Bay. Duterte wants to cozy up to Putin and so does Trump. Dump Duterte - oh, wait, now all is forgiven since Trump is elected. Maybe now he is afraid that Trump will actually kick him to the curb losing his country Billions of US dollars. Duterte is full of shit.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/asia/duterte-trump-military-exercises/index.html

Bill Tozer

Let the snowflakes melt. The knuckledraggers have taken over the White House, the Senate, and the House. After the SCOTUS vacancy is filled we can play nice, not a minute before. If you turn your back for one second, they will drive a knife into us. They hate us! Never forget. They really truly do hate us 24/7. That will never change, ever.

Forgive them, but it is unwise to enter the lion cage without a whip and a chair. We need a stiff spine now more than ever. God gave us brains to use. Again, let the snowflakes melt on the sidewalk into the vile puddles of anti-Americanism they are. There is no desire for unity from the left. No desire yesterday, today, or tomorrow. They will never ever play fair. After they accept defeat on our terms we can negotiate nice soft cuddly terms of surrender.

Be wise. They are still rattlesnakes in the grass. Be wary. They hate us more today than yesterday.

Barry Pruett

"Barry, are the barbershop quartets in the farm belt saying Trump is not an elitist and every person in positions within Republican halls of power and influence were culled from the farms and steel mills of the red states? Trump went to Wharton. These days it is a top-five business school. Trump is hardly 'working class' - he just pandered to them to win the election." Totally a cogent and reasonable observation, Brad. I can totally see how folks could understand him that way.

In my opinion, it is not where you go to school or your job or your lifestyle that makes one an elitist. An elitist (one who did not graduate from high school or one who has a degree from Cal) is one who arrogantly believes that they are "better than" and know better how to run others' lives. It is not education or lifestyle that makes on an "elitist." It is the smug, condescending, arrogant attitude of their fellowman who the elitist truly loathes as uneducated and who the elitist truly believes that he is "better than" and therefore should be able to dictate to others how to live. It's belittling of our fellowman who simply wishes to live his life without interference from others who think they know better. I for one trust my fellowman to live his or her life the way they choose...after all it is their life to live, not mine.

fish

I think if the Trump of Oceania, President Rodrigo Duterte, wants the US out of the Philippines, we should close Subic Bay.


You realize that the Subic Bay Naval Base was closed in the early 90's and we only maintain a token US presence there now?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Naval_Base_Subic_Bay#Closure

Bill Tozer

I remember when they closed Subic. Thousands upon thousands were out in the streets protesting the closure. The upset thousands upon thousands were the prostitutes decrying their loss of livelihood. Who is going to feed their children now?, lol.

Todd Juvinall

Here is a copy/paste of a screed from Pelline's by a Steve Hurley. I saw this earlier on FB and responded to the idiot. If this doesn't convince people why there is a divide in America, then nothing will. This dolt Steve is a elitist and and thank goodness his ilk just got their ass kicked.

"Steve Hurley says:
November 10, 2016 at 6:47 am

Debrief:

The numbers are glaring about how the least educated went massively for Trump. He won white voters without a college degrees by a massive 67 per cent, to 28 per cent.

Folks without college educations have a harder time sifting information. They are also the most likely to rely on passion over reason. This is a sales truism: “knowledge makes you powerful but emotion makes you buy.” They bought Trump for emotional reasons.

Disingenuous, well-engineered propaganda that inflames emotions works best on sub-sets of populations most lacking in critical thinking skills.

Propaganda targeted at left-behind uneducated persons is familiar in history. Rage is a good political motivation especially when it can be channeled to divide a population on the bottom rungs of a society against themselves: in this case uneducated whites against the illegals and people of color.

Uneducated whites messaged using the thinly veiled ‘dog whistles’ of the Alt-Right is the signature of the Trump communications and political strategy.

My prediction is that this precise core constituency of resentful uneducated white voters will be called upon again and again in the future to be the ‘shield and sword’ for business and cultural interests seeking victory through dividing America. The communications channels will continue to be low-brow right-wing talk radio, Fox news, and DC-based ‘think tanks’ operating as propaganda mills.
"

Todd Juvinall

And state legislatures! From Ballotpedia today.

"Changes on November 8 brought the Republican Party's control of all three aspects of state government to 25 states. Democrats' share of trifectas dropped to four states. "

fish

Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 10 November 2016 at 09:47 AM


Well Todd what's important is that Mr. Hurley gets to feel good about himself today.


If TEAM EVIL wanted to retain the executive branch they shouldn't have fielded such a shitty candidate.

Bill Tozer

Todd @ 9:47

Here are the exit polls. I find things like married vs single more enlightening than education. When all demographics are grouped together, the education gap was not a huge runaway for either side. Break it down by race, non whites without a college degree were all in for My Gal, God rest her tortured soul. Whites without a college education went for Trump. Ironically, whites without a college degree is the only one the liberals are screaming about. What the exit polls do not tell us is what percentage of the voting population hold PHDs, have college degrees, some college, and demographic percentages of the entire population.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/politics/election-exit-polls.html
Whatever. As Queen Nancy said, "Elections have consequences."

Heard Trump called Hillary on election night and asked if she was willing to sell all those fireworks her campaign bought at a big discount. :)

fish

Now this should hearten those of your neighbors who think that they're succeeding in the creation of "New Soviet Man"....


http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/election/article113879538.html


Try not be be nearby when they're presented with the bill....it could get ugly!

Larry Wirth

Doubtless Dr. Rebane will shortly put up a county-by-county map showing the distribution of votes. What it will show is that the Republican electorate is the segment that 'exploits' the environment to provide a living for the masses living in urban centers and producing, effectively, NOTHING.

Think about it. Where would CA be without coal miners in the 4-corners area? Or frackers, or all the other Republican inclined people who actually produce the goods that the urban idiots consume without a single thought about where that bounty comes from?

Bill Tozer

Bottom line:

This was not a normal election. It was war. We had to stop the direction this country is heading: socialism and decline. As one pundit put it, Globalism vs Nationalism (Political Globalism vs Political Sovereignty).

We assumed many things that were not true. I was told the turn out was going to be record breaking by the media. But, 4 million less people voted in 2016 than in 2012, and 2-3 million less people voted in 2012 than in 2008. Florida's population increased by a million over the last few years, but the total votes cast did not reflect this in the least.

Trump never would have won without the conservatives coming around finally and recognizing this is a war, not an election. SCOTUS was a key. It was fight for the heart, soul, and direction for what is known as America. Those that viewed 2016 as a mere election but not war did not turn out. The ones that stayed home did not see 2016 as The Year of the Reckoning.....the last chance to slow the inevitable march towards Maoism in our life times.

Never underestimate the enemy. Conversely, never underestimate those fighting for their lives with everything to lose.

Todd Juvinall

Hillary got the atheist vote. Overwhelmingly.

Larry Wirth

And, again, the genius of our founders shows in their creation of the Electoral College which puts the most important decisions beyond the reach of the Marxist-inspired mob. I daily thank God that the great men who founded this REPUBLIC were truly inspired by a vision of man as an essentially rational creature, capable of creating a governmental system that could resist the base, animal instincts of the Democratic (presumed) majority. Let's see who Trump selects as his advisors.

Gregory

"On a more local note I see that Nevada County is now definitely neither red nor purple, but solidly blue."

Poppycock.

More than half did not vote for Clinton, a small plurality for the Democrat does not solid Blue make.

More than half voted for LaMalfa. More than half voted for Gains and Dahle, and I suspect many who voted for Dahle's competition, Donn Coenen, probably didn't know he was a Tea Party/SOJ kind of Libertarian who I voted for despite those issues. Nice guy, too, and the High School district failed to get the votes to issue bonds primarily for maintenance issues that historically get paid from normal revenues which remain substantial.

In short, this isn't a "blue county", and compared to the rest of the state, our shade of blue looks almost white.

fish

Glad to see all those young people and democrats peacefully accepting the results of the political process......


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3922098/The-backlash-begins-Disgruntled-anti-Trump-protesters-refuse-accept-election-result-gather-New-York-cities-country.html

Gregory

Oh, and more than half of our neighbors voted against Gavin Newsom's gun and ammo grab.

With the Supremes in a 5/4, 6/3 or even 7/2 split by the time the challenge to 63 gets to the SCOTUS, I suspect it will fall easily on either 2nd Amendment or Interstate Commerce grounds.

Paul Emery

Todd
How can you deny that Nevada County is a Blue County considering they voted strongly for Clinton, voted for Prop 64 and agaisnt measure W despite strong opposition from the local Repub party and have more registered voters in Nevada County, Jim Reed (Dem) is out polling La Malfa in NC and Derlek is swamping McClintock. The only Pubster to prevail in NC is Dahle who had no Dem opposition, opposed only by Libertarian Donn Connen who still managed to have a third of the vote.

these numbers reflect the vote as counted late Tues night

It is delusional for you to say this is still a Repub county.

In two years two Supervisor seats will be up for grabs. Loo for the Dems to take over the BOS.

Bill Tozer

Is Ruth Bladder Ginsberg going to move to New Zealand now? I won't hold her to her word. That would be a rookie mistake. Fool me once....

As far as the 2nd Amendment goes, I don't think the Left has thought this through, but I could be wrong.

https://www.facebook.com/GunControlKills/photos/a.199201850149448.49600.194105303992436/1199862093416747/?type=3&theater

Don Bessee

Young mr Hurley is wallowing in the denial stage of grief. The voting details are all out there available from many sources. As far at Prez elect Trumps win being a white revolution talking point, Trump got a third more black votes than Romney and more Hispanic votes than the Spanish speaking Romney. Trump got the voters mobilized and over performed Romney all across the country. That combined with the minority vote staying home in rejection of the old, white, rich lady sealed the deal.

With less than an hour to go the DOW is up 260 today, well into record territory. Put that in your pipe and smoke it Boardman. ;-)

Paul Emery

Gregory

I suggest you look at the vote as compiled. You'll see and Hillary was the solid winner way out polling Trump and McClintock losing solidly in NC.

I suggest you do your home work before opening your mouth.
By the way later returns show Lamalfa edging
Reed by l1%
For your convenience I'm including a link.

https://www.mynevadacounty.com/nc/elections/docs/2016%20Elections/November%208%2c%202016%2c%20General%20Presidential/Cumulative%20Report.pdf

Paul Emery

Bessee

What is your view of the vote on Prop 62?

Paul Emery

Make that 64

George Rebane

Arguing that Nevada County has not turned blue reminds me of those worthies on the 'unsinkable' Titanic counseling calm since the ship was clearly afloat and still not too much bow down.

Paul Emery

Todd

Yes Gary Johnson was clearly defeated by Trump. I concede.

Bill Tozer

Before I fire up a nice fat hooter with my good buddy Mr. Boardman, I will like to throw a premature hat into the Cabinet ring. For DHS, I think Sen. Sessions would do a great job. He seems a common sense no nonsense type of guy that is tough as nail yet fair and reasonable. In the role of DHS, we need someone who has grit and can smell bull pucky a mile away.....and will follow the rule of law ahead of political expediency as much as can be expected.

We do need a few insiders in the Administration to show us around the place and point out where the bathrooms are. I said a few, not all. Draining the swamp is something Reagen found beyond humanly possible. But, Trump ain't no Reagen.

Overlooked in all the brouhaha is the fact that the Glass Ceiling was shattered. Congrats to Kellyanne, You gone good for a Jersey girl. :)

"Kellyanne Conway, who was born and raised in South Jersey, is the first woman to ever run a successful presidential campaign."

George Rebane

LarryW 1048am - Per your request Mr Wirth, it is posted.

Bonnie McGuire

I think most of us were aware that if Trump won it would be an excuse for the losers to throw a tantrum and burn America down. Isn't that typical of how totalitarians get er' done? From my limited view of this election reading and listening to people's opinions...the major media really stirred disgusted people with their expensive, obvious crap. I couldn't help but wonder where our first amendment went. So, one cannot help but wonder if the entire scene wasn't scripted....My hope is that those smart people who think they know what's best for us will show some good manners and sportsmanship...and not throw a tantrum because Hillary didn't win. Have some sympathy for the poor lady who has been having so many health problems.

George Boardman

Re Barry Pruett at 9:29 a.m.:

I don't know what you do to make Pelline spring into action--I'm almost envious.

I wrote about the Democratic Party elite in one of my recent columns in The Union, not that it would have any credibility with Pelline. Maybe a liberal magazine like The New Yorker will get his attention:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/31/hillary-clinton-and-the-populist-revolt

It's long, but worth the effort. I read it Monday night and then watched it come to life Tuesday.

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery, yes the Sanders and trimmigants registrations have put the dems over the R's in the county. But many of the indies are conservatives so that is why things stay close. Now you can go celebrate the ruination of the county and the state while I will celebrate a fun life. Good luck.

Todd Juvinall

Regarding Pellin's screed on his blog attacking Pruett. What a joke. At least Barry puts his money and time where his mouth is. He ran for office and has registered voters (we did this together) and was a poll watcher in this election. All Pelline does is whine and complain and do nothing but yap. Pelline is why there is a ongoing sickness in our body politic. He is no better than a infection while Barry is the cure. But Pelline at least is consistently a jerk while Barry is well liked by many on both sides of the political divide.

Gregory

Paul, 1225, I was working off the final numbers and I had it right. The margin Clinton beat Trump by in this county would be considered a toss-up by Real Clear Politics pre election polling... not light blue, not solid blue. More importantly, less than 50% of the vote. A bare plurality, not a majority. Look up the words in a dictionary or a math book if you need to.

McClintock has a tiny left-liberal sliver of the County and I've no idea how hard he fought for those votes.

GR 1246, see the above

Paul, up close and personal a couple weeks ago you were asking me how the GOP would reform itself after Tuesday's shellacking... and they emerged with the Presidency, the Senate and the House for the first time since 1928... and a large majority of Governorships. Outside local and some state governments, the Democrats are in hibernation with their journalistic arm in tatters by public opinion... how are they going to recover?

George Rebane

GeorgeB 146pm – George Parker’s New Yorker piece is another on of those sincere self-examination of progressives who see themselves and their ideas invincible. Parker’s whole conversation contained no smidgeon of awareness about great socio-economic forces playing through our society such the acceleration of technology, systemic unemployment impervious to education, the onrushing Singularity, globality, … . The session was nothing more than a self-serving inquiry into why stasist and statist policies of established collectivism no longer seem to work. Most certainly there was no significant calling to account of the Obama administration failures. The whole thing circled the old socialist notion of how can we elites (who publicly dun elites) get those sheeple shaped up, compliant, and moving in a direction that brings them to a place where leviathan is recognized as the source of all goodness and succor.

Reading this piece almost makes you feel sorry for how absolutely devastated Hillary Clinton must now feel, for she knew that she would be the one to show America the way forward with brilliant policies, edicts, executive orders, … issuing from Washington to flood the land where lives an appreciative people – for this time around we can really make the same ol’ same ol’ work.

George Rebane

Gregory 215pm - Have you ever considered giving motivational talks here in Nevada County? Even with Trump's victory, I can think of several groups who could use them.

Bill Tozer

The state house reports are coming in. Looks like a war zone. The Dems got knocked in the teeth by an angry mob of irredeemable white women. Told ya those Trump rallies were pretty near 2/3 fine fair maidens. :)

To complete the picture, all the Dems have left as the face of your Democratic Party is Old Botox Tax Pelosi and that guy that looks like Mr. Grinch, Kaine of Virginia or something. Oh ya. Chuckie Big Bank Schmuer as the mouthpiece. I would say the Dem Party is going to have a PR problem for a few years. Good job.

Of course Nev County is going blue. Hey, you know why this does not look like Marin? Cause it is not Marin, duh. Never was, but it will be!! I put Nevada County in the transitional phase category.

fish

Posted by: George Boardman | 10 November 2016 at 01:46 PM

I don't know what you do to make Pelline spring into action--I'm almost envious.


Mount an electoral challenge his man crush working in the Clerk Recorders office.....and you'll see jeffy pounce!

Don Bessee

Johnathan Turley of GW law school nailed it in his interview today. On the topic of the safe space demanding snowflakes shrieking and crying in the streets, he opined that we have raised a generation of 'emotional hemophiliacs' who meltdown at the slightest challenge , much less dealing with a real life loss. ;-)

Paul Emery

Pretty weak retort Gregory entirley devoid of any factual basis. Nevada Counties Blue status will only increase as more of the retired Repubs head for locates next to hospitals and more retired Government workers and High Techs take their place attracted by the Pines and culture of our region. This will manifest itself with a thorough takeover of the BOS in two years.

Barry Pruett

Interestingly enough, I worked side-by-side with folks from the Clinton campaign and the ACLU making sure that everyone got a chance to vote in Nevada (a battleground state). It was, as always, quite fun. The folks from the ACLU and the democrats (also mostly from California) were really cool. All they wanted (just like us) was to make sure that the election laws were followed and that folks got a chance to vote, or at a minimum cast a provisional ballot under HAVA. We had some great conversations which were obviously unrelated to politics as, if overheard, such conversations would be akin to electioneering in the polling places. Great folks taking the day off work (both observers and poll workers) to make our democracy stronger. I even ran into an attorney from the Bay Area with whom I attended a two-week long mediation seminar in Santa Rosa...small world. As far as Pelline...

http://www.djgelner.com/2011/03/are-you-bitcher-or-doer.html

Pretty clear Trump is a doer. I am concerned about our country's future just as many of my friends on the left, but I just don't believe the rhetoric (no pun intended). Give the guy a honest chance, and let's see what happens. Thankfully, there are 538 folks in DC with whom any president has to work. The world is still spinning and I am pretty sure the sky is not falling.

Bill Tozer

My my my. We just need to stand back and watch. Don't need to lift a finger. All that anger out there is being to focus on the real problem: The Democrat Party Old Guard. Were not they in charge? Where they not the Protectors of the Holy Grail? Soon, that old tree will be violently shaken and we get to see what rotten fruits falls to the ground. Hey, I wouldn't want the Bernie Bros coming after me. They are gunning for Bear and in a real pissed off mood. Popcorn time. They will work it out. None of my business.

fish

Posted by: Barry Pruett | 10 November 2016 at 03:35 PM


jeffpelline says:

November 10, 2016 at 11:26 am

He said “liked” Bernie of Facebook for whatever reason, but he volunteered to be a poll watcher for Trump’s campaign. That speaks volumes.



Volumes Barry......it speaks volumes!


....VOLUMES DAMMIT!

Barry Pruett

I do like Bernie Sanders! From what I can discern, he is an very honest man. He has his beliefs and, by God, he will honestly and unabashedly tell them to you! The poor man got the shaft from the DNC. The people that support Trump and Sanders have a lot in common. It is no wonder some Bernie supporters switched to Trump.

"Their shared anti-elitism isn't a pose — it's substantive opposition to the policy positions held by party elites they view as corporatist sellouts."

http://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2016/01/what-bernie-sanders-and-donald-trump-have-in-common/422907/

Don Bessee

The dark lord of liberal lament land just got Trumped! ;-)

Brad C

Fish, Re: Subic Bay, - Good catch! At least one of us has a long term memory! Is there anything else there the US could close down?

Brad C

Maybe Trump will do something about the Electoral College now,

http://www.wisn.com/article/donald-trump-called-to-abolish-election-scenario-that-handed-him-the-white-house/8270473

George Boardman

Re: Dr. R's 2:33:

Your comment just goes to show how two people can read the same article and come away with different messages.

I read the article as a condemnation of the Democratic Party for abandoning the foundation of the party FDR assembled, the poor and working classes who had no advocates in Washington. Now the party is dominated by intellectual and high tech elitists who have little use for the common man--assuming they know any.

Instead of raising funds at a union hall pot luck, Democratic candidates have lunch with Lauren Powell Jobs and her buddies who are willing to pay $400,000 a head for the privilege.

Republican candidates would attend if they were invited. It's no wonder neither party saw the Trump surge coming.


Barry Pruett

"Trump's victory is no surprise. He was never a joke. On Nov. 8, the dispossessed will walk into the voting booth...and put a big f---ing X in the box next to the name of the man who has threatened to upend and overturn the very system that ruined their lives: Donald J. Trump." - Michael Moore.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/11/10/michael-moore-to-democrats-told-trump-was-going-to-win.html

Don Bessee

So that's 2 things I now agree with Michael moore on, the 16 years of dysfunction at our county courthouse and now Trump! ;-)

Bill Tozer

Got thinking. Trump was not the greatest politican coming out of the gate, but he learned to hold his fire and brimstone and replace them with piss and vinegar at the critical closing argument final days. Due to some unfortunate events happening on the Dem side and a bit of luck that came our way, Trump becomes the first white billionaire to ever displace a black family living in public housing and move them out so he can move on in. :)

I was worried about Trump and Obama meeting today and President O explaining to little Trump the facts of life. Play ball and let Hillary and the Obamas go quietly into the soft still night. In exchange, we will work with ya in transition and help ya get settled. We all play nice now, right. No horse heads in the bed, ok? Add to my concerns is Christie. Another immediate issue. I don't trust Jersey Fats Christie to not sneak any RINOs in as advisors. I began to fret. Unti....until.....until if hit me. The nation has not seen Trump's strong suit yet. The place where he shines. He did write the book "The Art of the Deal" did he not? Ah, don't listen to me. You are in your realm, Mr. Trump. No worries.

Bottomline: for me, it was never about Hillary. Never. It was always about Obama and seeing his entire presidency as a colossal dangerous disaster. No choice but to block the path he has led us down. A total disaster. Hillary was just in the way. Now, let's see how good Trump is in these delicate negotiations behind the scenes.

Gregory

"Pretty weak retort Gregory entirley [sic] devoid of any factual basis. Nevada Counties [sic] Blue status will only increase... " Paul 3:32

Paul, I suggest given the number of times you told me it was over, Trump was losing badly and taking the entire GOP with him, I'm afraid your credibility as an Oracle is irrepairably shattered but besides that, I was not talking about the past or about the future.

If you read carefully for a change, I was only talking about right now (or to be more specific, two days ago), and it's pretty bloody even by the actual returns from Tuesday. NO candidate for Pres got a majority in Nevada County, and 44 vs 48 ain't exactly a landslide, is it? Let's talk in 4 years and hope you'll be capable of rationality then more than you are now.

Ass'y District 1, no Dem even ran and 85% of the voters cast their vote for the GOP or for the Tea Party/State of Jefferson/Libertarian on the ballot. That's Deep Blue? I don't think so.

George R, I'm sure the current state of near parity is painful for you compared to the area you first moved to, but that doesn't make it worse than it is. Celebrate the fact you aren't one of the sobbing snowflakes looking for a safe space after the Big Bad Wolf actually blew Hillary's house down and will shortly b-b-b-blow down the house of cards that Obama's Executive Orders built.

Don Bessee

I have to wonder how many of the weepy lefties understand the level of their crushing failure. The BIG 3 in DC under our control, 36 Governors, 16 states with all executive offices and legislative majorities for US Deplorables. Dems have only 6 States like CA with all executive offices and legislative majorities. Then there are the Counties and Cities.
A paradigm change unlike anything we have seen in our time. Bigger shift than Saint Ronnie!

GOD has indeed blessed the USA!
(cue Lee Greenwood)
;-)

George Boardman

The Trump victory is starting to unite all Americans:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ku-klux-klan-hold-north-230227525.html

fish

Posted by: George Boardman | 10 November 2016 at 07:13 PM

Well have a nice time George.....the Carolinas are lovely this time of year!

Gregory

Boardman, it strikes me odd that there are about 10 Democratic pundits talking about David Duke for every follower the guy actually has, and if it wasn't for you (in the plural sense) nobody would be paying attention.

In short, this little stunt of yours is exactly the sort of rotten journalism that put Hillary and the Democratic Party in the tank.

The Union actually pays you?

John

Gregory, 7:35. Very well put! Maybe Pelline is actually on to something!

Bill Tozer

Fish @ 7:30 PM.

North Carolina? North Carolina? Hmmm. Something sounds familiar. Oh yeah, it was at a Trump rally early on in Charolette, NC when that sneaky 79 year old long haired coot threw that elbow into some disrespectful agitator as he was being escorted out. Popping heads time from the left. "Trump incites violence!" and the old geezer said "Good, I feel good", right into the first microphone. Come to think about it, I feel good.

Gregory and Walt: Trump releases position paper. I think I will give ya'll a peek to put your minds at ease. Read 'em and weep all he on the Dark Side of the street:

http://reagancoalition.com/articles/2016/trump-releases-his-plan-for-2nd-amendment-leaves-millions-furious.html

Bill Tozer

My my. The libbies are on the march. Guess it's their way or the highway. Bye, bye.

http://ktvl.com/news/local/petition-wants-oregon-other-states-to-form-their-own-country

Gregory

Ahh, tolerant progressives throwing a tantrum because they lost an election. Badly.

Perhaps Hillary will talk some sense into them. Perhaps not.

Gregory

"John 801"

Pelline has even less common sense than Boardman.

Don Bessee

The 'john' , BWWWWHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA. Ya sure the dark lord of liberal lament land is such a ________________ (fill in your blank) and hopes have relevance. Quite cute. ;-)

Gregory

"And then there’s Gregory Goodknight, going apoplectic when Rebane and Paul state the obvious: that our County went purple, even blue, in this election. This guy hasn’t gotten it right since Prop. 23 (which even lost in our County)."

And then there's Jeff Pelline, failed journalist, tossed out of his last stand, The Union, currently publishing a glossy pennysaver that has a cover price equal to its actual value, who makes stuff up (I was never a Prop 23 supporter) and thinks a vote of less than 50% for Hillary means Nevada County is Blue.

44 vs 48 is Toss Up, not leans Dem, not likely Dem by the RealClearPolitics definitions but then math was never Jeffie's strong suit (two or less real integer digits is elementary school stuff) or he'd have majored in something besides Rhetoric and chosen a different life's work.

Paul Emery

Gregory

I guess you disagree with our host George R. who writes:

"On a more local note I see that Nevada County is now definitely neither red nor purple, but solidly blue. It has been tending blue for some years as witnessed by the way the county’s jurisdictions ‘welcome’ businesses and real estate development, and what strictures burden owners on the disposition of their homes and rental properties."

Gregory

Paul 1108 Nice to see you are capable of noticing the obvious if it gets repeated enough times.

No, 44/48 isn't "solidly blue", it's Toss Up time by folks you trusted before the election.

Paul Emery

Anybody care to speculate whether Trump will be required to release his income tax returns in the years after he becomes president?

Paul Emery

So I take it Gregory you disagree with or host in this matter

Gregory

Paul, what law requires publicly disclosing income tax filings for those in public office?

Unlike some other blogs, our host does not require slavish devotion to his pronouncements. Thank you for noticing.

fish

Not even sworn in yet and already making progress in both the Space and annoying celebrity removal programs!


CHER TO LEAVE PLANET!


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cher-says-trump-wins-i-m-gonna-have-leave-planet-944506

fish

....and on the Blue/Not Blue front.....local idiot offers his take:


jeffpelline says:

November 10, 2016 at 11:02 pm

A tough afternoon for local Gregory Goodknight, whose “job” is “independent software engineer at my place” whatever that means. And up to eight people endorse his “skills.” https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-goodknight-6466466 authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=JlLk&locale=en_US&trk=tyah&trkInfo=clickedVertical%3Amynetwork%2CclickedEntityId%3A19503126%2CauthType%3ANAME_SEARCH%2Cidx%3A1-1-1%2CtarId%3A1478847473000%2Ctas%3Agreg%20goodknight

Does that “career” get published in his Harvey Mudd college alumni magazine? ROFLOL!


There's more if you dare.

......sigh.


Such blind flailing is really tough to watch!

Russ

Progressive Repudiation

Tea-party Republicans won. Establishment center-right Republicans won. And they won not just because Republican voters turned out — GOP turnout wasn’t particularly heavy, and Trump is likely to win roughly the same number of votes that Romney did — but because Democrats stayed home by the millions. In 2012, Mitt Romney received almost 61 million votes. With 98 percent of precincts reporting, Donald Trump has slightly over 59 million votes. Clinton is winning the popular vote count by roughly 200,000 votes but has so far turned out 6.5 million fewer voters than Obama did.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/442039/voters-reject-progressive-agenda-rightward-shift-historic

Bill Tozer

Interesting thing about the polls. Admist the chorus of gleeful MSM and giddy pundits proclaiming a Clinton landslide and the shellacking of Republician candidates across the board just 3 weeks out from Election Day, something was beginning to move. Yes, at the exact time national polls had Hillary in the bag, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and even Minnesota started to move. Internal polling was showing a Pennsylvia win for Trump. Perhaps our focus was too much on national polls while smugly overlooking secure blue state polls. MN Dems were ready to add its state house representivies to the state senate which was already all blue. The state senate turned red. That movement started 3 weeks out from the election as well, albeit unreported. Same with WI.

As The Clinton camp was secure in its blue firewall to block Trump, the voters were planning on blocking Clinton from within the blue firewall. The swing for local GOP candidates started earlier than the swing for Trump. They really broke for Trump in the last few days.
Just something to ponder. The "Trump Victory" was preceded in internal polling by movement to state representatives first. Something that gave Pat Cadell reason to say the election has the "potential for a shocker". Hillary was looking for love in all the wrong places.

The white Democrat voter turned to Trump. White Democrat women turned against Hillary and voted Republican. The GOP (even without record turnouts) captured the highest percentage of union households in GOP history...by 14%.

To those who want to say it was white racism that carried the day for Trump, I would submit these white racists who made the difference were Democrat party members a month ago and voted for Obama previously. Go pound sand. :)

L

Thanks for the map, George. Now, run it through a 'precinct filter' and watch the US's largest county, San Bernardino, shrink to tiny dot in the SW corner. Likewise, the second largest, Coconino, shrinks to Flagstaff at the bottom and the ugly blue stain in NW Wyoming resolves itself into the tiny town of Jackson('s Hole)) which has become infested with Hollywood Californicators. That would really make the point. L

Barry Pruett

Just looking ahead a little, the democrats have to defend nine senate seats in 2018 in states won by Trump. The republicans have to defend one. Expect the republicans to expand their grip on the Senate. Also between now and then expect some cooperation from some Democrats in the Senate. The map alone will dictate some cooperation, because let's face it, these folks are totally self-interested most of the time.

George Rebane

Speaking of the dynamics of our county's political hue, did anyone notice the announcement in today's (11nov16) Union that our elections office has yet to count over 24K votes (?!!). That's a fourth of the county's population and more than a third of its registered voters. I had no idea that Greg Diaz was so far behind, and calls to question his reporting "100%" in the above linked vote summary. In any case, that many votes can change damn near any and all issues, and could add wind to the sails of GregG's analysis of our ideological stance (and weaken my claim).
http://www.theunion.com/news/local-news/nevada-county-election-over-24k-ballots-remain-uncounted/

fish

Posted by: Barry Pruett | 11 November 2016 at 09:33 AM


This is why I think the whole Trump affair will end in tears.....we're due a recession...a big one. Those largely responsible for it (TEAM EVIL) have left the field and when it hits there will be no one to take the blame except Trump and TEAM STUPID.

Still think that his election was better long term for the country (Judicial appointments) but the next four years will be fraught with peril!

Bill Tozer

Now Dr. Rebane, don't you dare poke the Sacred Cow. After all, a Purple Hippo donated 500 clamshells to Diaz when he arrived in these parts and first tossed his hat into the ring. Some are invested in the elections office :).

Statistics show that the most likely chance of election fraud happening is in smaller (voter population) local jurisdictions and after 10 PM. Just saying. My ballot was provisional so it won't counted for a week. Hmmm. In case anyone is itching for the final tally, I voted NO on everything, State and county. So, take one of those 2,012 provisional ballots and put it into the "eat this" column. 'No' is a complete statement.

I did vote No on pot just to show solidarity with P Smith, a courageous fighter for the sick, lame, and infirmed. I let all the stupid School Board boxes blank cause I don't know any of them and Gregory failed to tell me how to vote on School Daze. :)

George Boardman

Nevada County has always been slow counting the votes. When she had the job, Lorraine Jewett-Burdick complained about a lack of resources to get the count done quickly. I'm guessing the situation hasn't improved since then.

The supervisors seem to be content to just meet the state deadlines for the getting the votes counted. Another example of how low we set the standard for excellence around here.

Gregory

Oh my, so many loose ends.

George, you wrote "It has been tending blue for some years as witnessed by the way the county’s jurisdictions ‘welcome’ businesses and real estate development, and what strictures burden owners on the disposition of their homes and rental properties."

That's not a function of the politics of the local electorate, that's a function of the power of the local bureaucrats. Local government by and for the local government employees can happen in solid GOP areas, too. People don't vote it in, it grows by itself and, as far as I can tell, was stifling in this county back when the old boys controlled the place. It's worse now possibly because they have an inkling their pensions won't be delivered unless far more money gets gathered.

I am shocked by the number of ballots left to count, silly of me to think otherwise. 100% precincts means votes cast on election day, at the precinct, easy-peasy. Now they have to slog through all the crap mailed in. Easy for the voter, perhaps, but not for the county, and some will get tossed for some reason... like no signature. Tough luck... want your vote to count for sure, show up in person on election day.

Don Bessee

Guess GB missed all that money that has been spent in the elections office for 'upgrades'. Elections is an independent entity run by an elected official. The BOS has little to say about what happens in that office by law.

Brad C

Tentative triumph indeed! A petition to ask the Electoral College to choose Hillary has over 2.5 million signatures so far. I checked Change.org and it looks like the petittion is getting about 3,000 signatures a minute.

https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19?source_location=discover_feed

Bill Tozer

On topic, kinda sorta. Happy Veterans Day.

http://unclesamsmisguidedchildren.com/wrong-bar-fl-anti-trump-protesters-vs-us-marines/

Gregory told me liberals are not stupid. I agree, so I stop calling them stupid. Stupid just does not capture the essence.

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/741121012704790/?type=3&theater

Now, my favorite former member of the LA chapter of NOW weights in:

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/951171678350203/?type=3&theater

Gregory is right. They are not stupid. They got this one right:

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/951782841622420/?type=3&theater

George Rebane

Gregory 1039am - Having worked intimately with/in both city and county governments, I am familiar with the relationship between the BOS and the elected agencies in county government (I was a planning commissioner in Simi Valley and again in Nevada County when we moved here). Since the BOS determines the budgets of all county departments, it in fact has a lot of influence on how those departments work, even those managed by elected heads. We recall Golden Rule #2 - 'Them that's got the gold make the rules.'

But I fully agree with how bureaucracies grow, calcify, and stifle all progress within their reach, be they public or private (once the feedback loops weaken/break, big corporations - especially the corporatist kind - do no better than govt bureaucrats in handling their assigned affairs).

Don Bessee

Normally Veterans Day is a somber day of remembering my fallen friends and family as well as all the others who went before us.
This is undoubtedly a different, VERY HAPPY Veterans Day, fix the VA, supply our active duty with the tools they need to stand against the forces of evil that swirl around us. Get the US postured for peace through strength again.
Its a wonderful day in the neighborhood! ;-)

Don Bessee

Dr. R, Its no secret that the BOS and Diaz have a love-hate relationship, they love to hate each other.

Paul Emery

Here's a more detailed look at the e current and future political demographics in Nevada County. Add Heidi halls easy win in District 1 BOS as further evidence. I plagiarized myself in this entry stealing from an entry I made in another blog.

I’ve been here since 1976 when there were mostly redneck Republicans-loggers, miners etc. That shifted to construction-real estate types in the 90’s and most recently retired Repubs in the 00 years. The retired are now really tired and moving closer to their families and large medical facilities and they are being replaced by retired State and government workers as well has younger high tech types moving here for the quality of life. The main attraction to more liberal retired types is the high degree of culture we enjoy here in our County and the environment, That’s what makes our town different than Placerville for example. Add to that the marijuana cultivators that will thrive here after the next BOS elections create a cultivation friendly political environment and there will be no turning back to the blueing of Nevada County.

Gregory

Rude Center motto:"We're not happy until you're not happy"

Regarding Mr. Pink's concern about my standing with fellow Mudd grads, well, how I describe what I do in my own semi-retirement is my business and, with a few real patents to my name as inventor and a mid career compensation exceeding the Mudd average (which is by some accounts the highest mid career compensation for any US college), I'll not be set upon at my next alumni day. Then there's my wife, Wikipedian of the Year and board member for Wikimedia DC (they took a liking to her when she recently managed an editathon at the UN), and my kid who actually was admitted to every college Mr. Pink is likely to aspire for his kid and has degrees in chemistry and physics from Cal and Harvard. Phi Beta Kappa, too. Also Eagle Scout (am guessing that's not Mr. Pink's ball of wax).

While a bigger pile of money would be nice (taking the widower with kid break had a price), as it is I am comfortable and have owned an airplane since my Cisco days (pilot cert from my Mudd days... it was virtually free to the nine who were selected for it each year)... I'd give Mr. Pink a ride but, unfortunately, I don't think he'd fit or, if he did, that he'd exit the plane when asked.

So, Mr. Porcine, when you were fetching coffee for Caen at the 'Frisco Chronicle, were you aspiring to be the editor at the Chronicle, to be yelling at The Union employees or publishing your own glossy pennysaver out of your house? Enquiring minds want to know.

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