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16 December 2016

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Bonnie McGuire

This Russian hacking story is just more lying distraction to keep us entertained. Why would the Russians not support those they've had such a good relationship for so long? For years the media always reported that Russia supported Democrats prior to Election Day. And look how well they like Hillary and Bill for helping their investment in Western Uranium deposits. In return, wasn't Bill paid big money by the Russian investors for making a speech? Or was it altogether more fairy tale feeding by our forever fabricating media?

Paul Emery

Any difference between the FBI and CIA have now been clarified. Does this satisfy you George

“Earlier this week, I met separately with (Director) FBI James Comey and DNI Jim Clapper, and there is strong consensus among us on the scope, nature, and intent of Russian interference in our presidential election,” CIA Director John Brennan said in a message to the agency’s workforce, according to U.S. officials who have seen the message.

BradC

There is a larger issue here. Over 1/3 of Trump meatheads (you know, those believers to whom Trump is always tossing the red meat to during his publicity tours) believe Putin is a 'cool dude' and we should like him (or don't see any reason to dislike him)- because Trump said so.

Sure, he is former head of KGB - no problem.
Sure, he kills his opposition, political or otherwise - no problem.
Sure, no decision to hack, or otherwise infiltrate our country, would be made in Putin's top-down administration without Putin's blessing - no problem.
Sure, he is bombing the hell out of Aleppo and killing multitudes of non-combatants - no problem.

It it bliss to be a Trumper, I guess.

George Rebane

Difference between the agencies was never the issue. And the 1253pm quoted Brennan statement doesn't specifically address the hacked emails. In fact, it's more of the same pabulum from the intel agencies. But what may give people comfort is today's Obama news conference in which he states that we have confidential evidence that the Russians did the hack. My remarks on journalists' uses of anonymous sources stand.

re BradC 106pm - don't know how such a sweeping description (e.g. "... cool dude ...") serves the dialogue here. What Trump and the 37% Republicans surveyed have agreed on is that Putin is a strong leader who has more successfully pursued/defended Russian national interests than has Obama for America. None have said anything about liking him or not, nor does anyone approve of his means and methods (also, he never headed the KGB but was only a mid-level functionary).

The point made re Putin is that we can negotiate with him much better than the horrible state of affairs into which Obama has mismanaged our relationship with Russia, during which we have lost on every count and Russia has made gains that were only dreamt of during czarist times. Obama is still a naif in international relations. To believe that we can now do better does not imply any of the things gratuitously listed by Mr Croul.

Todd Juvinall

Listened to Obama's press congerence. What a lying sack. And there is just a "assessment" by the intelligence agencies that Russia hacked the DNC and Podesta. No proof offered.

The most interesting thing he said though was this. They had the info months ago but did not want to influence the race. Now that seems fine except it did they say now. These people are worse than the Keystone Cops. So as far as the results of the election, Obama and his minions are the reason Hillary lost. You cannot make this stuff up.

fish

Posted by: BradC | 16 December 2016 at 01:06 PM

It it bliss to be a Trumper, I guess.


I am so digging watching the lefty Fidel snugglers rocking their Che' tee shirts publicly come out of the closet as neo Cold Warriors! Never thought I'd see the day!

On another topic Brad....it was entertaining as hell watching your wife rhetorically pimp slap that little ass nugget Bruce Levy over at the FUEs the other day!

Hat Tip Judith!

Paul Emery

George

This does not have to do with the hacked emails? Really what does it refer to?

"strong consensus among us on the scope, nature, and intent of Russian interference in our presidential election,”

Paul Emery

George

what does "somewhat favorable view of Putin" mean to you?

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/ro9rimrce9/econTabReport.pdf

Todd Juvinall

Clinton raised 700 million in direct and indirect contributions as of the first. Trump 1/2 that. So Paul Emery, looks like Citizens United hysteria by you and the left are unfounded eh?

Paul Emery

That re: you writing "None have said anything about liking him or not, nor does anyone approve of his means and methods"

Todd Juvinall

I listened to Obama bastardize what Trump said about Putin. Paul Emery apparently has fell for that myth as well. Trump said where are those Hillary emails she destroyed. And in a humorous statement said if the Russians find the destroyed emails they should talk to the media. Paul and Obama try the lie Trump said go hack her. He did not.

Todd Juvinall

Regarding the "poll" on Putin. Trump never said he liked Putin and wanted to emulate his governing style. He said the opposite. But fake news dispensers like Paul Emery twisted it into something else. In fact Trump said only that Putin was a strong leader for his country though he did not favor that. Liars in the press are shameless.

Paul Emery

Todd

And 37% of Republicans now have a favorable or somewhat favorable view of Putin. Where does that come from?

Paul Emery

Todd

we won't ever know about the amount of money behind Trump because Citizens United prevents that information from being known. That's why its called "dark money"

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/20/the_system_is_just_this_rigged_dark_money_citizens_united_and_the_secret_story_of_how_big_money_stole_our_democracy/

Gregory

Paul, what "hacked" emails are you referring to? If it's the WikiLeaked emails, they're adamant that they were leaked by an insider, not hacked from the outside, and now we have Judge Napolitano outright saying they were leaked from a US intelligence insider.

So, what "hacked" emails are you referring to?

And, what in your wildest dreams do you think the current witch hunt about Russkie hacking will do... is it enough in the mind of Paul Emery to show there was Russian hacking and they favor Trump over Clinton to remove Trump from the oval orifice before he gets there, even if Putin had nothing to do with the WikiLeaked material, let alone Hillary's "

Obama has known about Russian (and Chinese and North Korean and Israeli and ...) hacking for years and only after the Democratic Party folded did the alarm get raised. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that might have something to do with wanting to ignore the top secret information on Hillary's private, unsecured server having been compromised to anyone with the skills to look while Hillary was Sec'y of State... Imagine Putin getting summaries of all of Hillary's emails while she was racking up all those frequent flyer miles for the Obama Administration.

I trust Putin to be Putin, I trust Trump to be Trump, I trust Pence to be Pence and I trust Clinton to be a serial liar. She lost, get over it.

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery, no that is not true. As a journalist I am surprised you fell for that. I gave you a link of the well respected outfit and it shows her at 700 million and trump at 300 million. You need to just give it up. We all know the truth. And you are anti free speech. Sad. CU does not change any disclosure requirements anyway.

Regarding Putin. Who knows? And is he our enemy? Are we at war? Trunmp poition is why not get along? Obama screwed it all up and now Trump has to fix it. My goodness you are biased.

Gregory

BradC 1:06

You do realize your entire post is a series of straw men, none of which accurately portray any of the actors on the stage?

I understand, you need caricatures to fight. It would help your cause if you could construct logical arguments well supported by fact.

Bill Tozer

Russians hacked something to ensure Hillary won the popular vote. Sounds like the Russians helped Hillary to me. They should have tried harder and she would have even got more votes in California..

Of course, they could not get into the RNC. They tried, but conservatives place a higher value on security and liberals place a higher value on somewhere over the rainbow. But, even if the Russians did get into the RNC, there was nothing to see.. just business communications and boring stuff. Keeping the trains running on time kinda thing.

Now, the DNC, well that's is a different story. Oh, the wealth of dirt is unbelievable. The sleaze, the backbiting, the cover up, the corruption, the mud, the absolutely jaw dropping unethical behavior. Yum, yum, yum. Who could ever resist the hair tingling mountain of tantalizing unbelievable shenanigans and dirty pool that just was everywhere the Dems turned, went, and did. It was irresistible!

Can't blame the Rooskies or anyone for preferring all the gumdrops of delightful decadence found on any DNC or even better, any Hillary's Campaign Machine computer. Republicans are just too boring. Nothing to see there.

First it was the FBI that sunk her, then it was Fake News!, the let's have a recount, next the Russians, then the Electoral College, then.......it can't possibly the candidate herself. No, she got more votes than Bernie so it has to be anything but My Gal's mug that stole the election from her. What a joke.

Paul Emery

Gregory What does this mean to you? Are you claiming it didn't include hacked emails?

"strong consensus among us on the scope, nature, and intent of Russian interference in our presidential election,”

Paul Emery


Todd

It's your problem that you don't understand what "dark money" is and how that relates to Citizens United. You shouldn't speak unless you know something about what you are talking about.

George Rebane

PaulE 131pm - Exactly. That was my point; what's yours?

134pm - I already covered that in my 126pm.

Bill Tozer

Paul, you have been fooled again. It wasn't the Russians. It was an evil person up to his lying self again. It's all Bush's fault. Bush did it!

About that poll that gets your juices flowing. I am surprised it's not 99% after O made us the laughing stock of the World. They called O "The Ameteur". The Chinese, the Russians, the Brits...they meaning everybody. We have been leaderless for 8 years in the foreign relations department.. So, yeah, people want a leader. It should be 99%, not 37%. Plus, no one with half a brain should be surprised comparing what we have in the White House compared to that nice looking clean articulate Russian in the Kremlin.

Here is the methodology of the poll that got you soooo excited you couldn't stop talking about it for 3 straight days.
Check it out.
https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913.80726.51560645913/10154277505990914/?type=3&theater

All I am saying is give peace a chance.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/978454115621959/?type=3&theater

Bill Tozer

It seems just like yesterday

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/12/remember-when-obama-told-trump-to-stop-whining-about-rigged-election

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery | 16 December 2016 at 02:30 PM

You really need to study up and stop making wild claims. I know way more than you on this. So stop embarrassing yourself with your ignorance. At least stop posting your drivel here.

Paul Emery

Todd

Descrbe to me what is Dark Money and how does it relate to itizens United. Educate me since you know everything.

BradC

Trump on Putin, lord they are lovey-dovey,

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/28/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-quotes/

Walt

Let's see Paul,,, uh,, George Soros?? Look into that and get back to us.

Bill Tozer

Todd, educate the man. Put Paul in a round room and tell him to go piss in the corner. Then grab his pussy.

Seriously, though. I will be good now.
Paul, you do know the difference between a hack and a leak, right? I wonder, but let's clarify some of the terms just in case.
The NSA has access to all our fiber and beyond. Everything that passes across the fiber they can retrieve. Everything....if they are so inclined. That's how they can catch anybody surfing child porn to making death threats.. Anything passing over the information highway can be traced. It is just a matter of will. The NSA knows who has been naughty and who has been nice.

But, downloaded stuff from a computer or computers on an in-house network (stolen as you would say) does not pass across the fiber. Just download copies and no one can trace it.
That is why people like me call them leaks. A mole, a plant in the enemy camp, a traitor, a thief, a Benedict Arnold!

So, I think most of the stuff was leaked. You say hacked. Ok, I will say a bunch of attempts from pimply mischeavlous teenagers to professional state sponsored hackers attempted hacks. When it comes to hacking, say, customer lnfo from UnitedHealthcare to BofA, that information is traded and sold on the "dark internet". A kid could let you see his goods for 60 bucks for 5 minutes....up to hundreds of thousands of dollars for a couple of hours. The Dark side. Where infor is sold and traded.
Now, the press reported way back when that they got into Hillary's private server through an opening found on Sydney Bloomenthal's computer. Intel (FBI) said that there is a 99% chance that 5 outside entities were in there reading stuff, poking around, but ZERO evidence of a hack. No hack.

Remember that Romanian kid Lucifer 2.0 or whatever he called himself bragging about reading Hillary's e-mail and state department stuff on lunch breaks then going back to work? He was in there, but taking nothing.

Look at Podesta's "hack". Fell for a high school level trick with that fake phishing alert. "Please put new password in now, Thankyou", lol. Could have been a pimply faced teenager or a Bernie Bro or.....a Romanian or a even George W. Bush! Can't believe they fell for that one. Told you Republicans care for security and safety issues (law and order)more than wheat grass sipping banana head liberals.

I think it was both a major leak and numerous daily hacking attempts by thousands of outsiders. A bunch of people got in.

The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out. It was Putin I bet. The Red Tide. Or, it was the Chinese behind the Bamboo Curtain...the Yellow Peril.

Think leaks. An inside job. It was probably Bill Clinton getting back at Hillary for busting all those lamps and crystal flower vases across his head. A man can only take so much before he snaps. Slick Willy is a sly one.

Paul Emery

They are lovey Dovy Brad. Here's my favorite from your link

"He also refused to call on Putin to stay out of the election, "I'm not going to tell Putin what to do. Why would I tell him what to do?"

I mean this is our next President111 Going to be lots of fun.

Taxpayers are going to end up paying for a honeymoon cottage in the Crimea after Trumps State Dept Choice Tillerson has sanctions removed on Russia after they invaded Crimea.


"Tillerson and Exxon have long argued against sanctions. They would, of course, as Russia has the oil that Exxon desperately wants. They were thwarted in carrying out a $500 billion oil deal due to sanctions. No any longer under Trump."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/12/us/politics/rex-tillerson-secretary-of-state-trump.html?_r=0

Scott Obermuller

This is all just total comedy. Paul Emery must have an endless supply of horse whips to beat that poor dried out carcase all day long.
Your sweety gal Hillary spent 1.whatever billion digging herself a king sized hole that Russia had nothing to do with.
Oblamer and Hillary made total fools out of our country with their inept and toothless foreign policy.
China is on the move and Oblamer did nothing. They moved into a disputed area and set up a military outpost. Oblamer did nothing. Now they have grabbed what I presume is a spy sub of ours. Oblamer goes to Hawaii to have a vacation.
The left has gone from calling Trump a mad man itching to start a nuclear war to now saying he's a lap dog for Putin. They can't even get their story straight.

Paul Emery

Scott

Trump said

"I'm not going to tell Putin what to do. Why would I tell him what to do?"

What does that mean to you?

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery. Simple, CU did nothing to the system except allow corporations to donate. All the rest stayed the same. Your shrieking about "dark money" is hilarious. Obama got $260 nillion in 2008 and you said not a word. And that was before CU. So get educated and maybe become knowledgeable. You are embarrassing yourself.

Scott Obermuller

Wow - Mr Emery, who will not answer my questions to him, now demands I answer his question.
However, I'll answer.
What it means to me is quite simple. Trump feels that Putin doesn't give a small rodent's back end what some one would tell him what to do, so why bother?

Todd Juvinall

Bruce Levy, a Pelline socl puppet, is attacking Aaron Klein. Now let me see. Klein ran for election and made it. Helped run the colleges and did a good job for the people. Bruce Levy? Pelline's hand up his ass and manipulating his mouth. Never accomplished anything anyone cn find. I'll take Klein. Pelline can keep his hand covered with shit.Amazing.

Bill Tozer

Donald and Vllady sitting in a tree
K-I-S-S-IN-G.
First comes love, then comes marriage....

https://patriotpost.us/posts/46505

https://www.facebook.com/basketofdeplorables4trump/photos/a.135610413572472.1073741828.135605260239654/184843088649204/?type=3&theater

Yo Walt:

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/978308058969898/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1252437648127771&set=a.444475062257371.95752.100000846429384&type=3&theater

Bill Tozer

Rex T?? You mean T Rex! Whatever.
Rex sounds a quasi-liberal to me. Opps, we Republicans have the moral authority now that the Left and Media (same thing, sorry for the repetition) have lost all credibility and all moral authority. This be the New Republicans: Different Matrix.

"Mr. Tillerman is the vice chairman of the Ford’s Theatre Society and a recipient of the Lincoln Medal; immediate past national president of the Boy Scouts of America, a Distinguished Eagle Scout, and a former director of the United Negro College Fund. He was recognized as a distinguished alumnus of the University of Texas at Austin in 2006, and in 2013, was elected to the National Academy of Engineering."

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/12/donald-trump-announces-selection-exxon-ceo-rex-tillerson-secretary-state/

Gasp, President of the Boy Scout and an Eagle Scout. He must be homophobic!...and a white male to boot. Mercy.

FYI: This day in history in 1773 a group of "rascals" boarded a ship and threw crates of tea into the Boston Harbor. That was deplorable. With ya in spirit, you savages you. :)

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

Well, this didn't go well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ophbx1iaF8

https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

http://twitchy.com/loriz-3139/2016/12/15/kurt-eichenwald-frantically-deletes-post-tucker-carlson-interview-meltdown-tweets-weve-got-them/

Walt

Funny thing about ol' Apocalypse here. Never a whole lot to say, but what he does, ain't bad.

Bill Tozer

Caution: do not read Scenes after 5:PM. Trigger Warning! Danger, Will Roberson, Danger. It's deplorable, lol. Speaking of deplorable, it's repulsive the way the Clintonistas and her Long Tenacle Machine are treating the good hard working men and women our FBI. Hmmm. Will wonders never cease. I never knew she had it in her. Free at last, free at last. Mercy.

"I know also because of his involvement with the campaign, he's going to have a certain interest in this and a certain view of that," she said. "Everyone has a great deal of respect for him. So I allow him that opinion, but I disagree with that."

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/16/politics/loretta-lynch-fbi-interview/?ref=yfp

Russ

While the left is pissing and moaning about Russian influence in our election the Diplomad 2.0 has some thoughts to share on who is really interfering in our national elections.

Is there foreign interference in our elections? You bet.

The biggest offender? Not Russia, but Mexico. Mexican officials publicly called on Mexicans in the US to oppose Trump; Mexico's over fifty--yes, fifty--consulates in the US (here) are hot beds of political activity and activism. Millions of illegal and legal aliens largely from Mexico and Central America vote, yes vote. We need to have an in-depth investigation into Mexico's interference in our elections, an interference that goes well beyond revealing embracing texts from the DNC.

There. That's an investigation the GOP should endorse, and the new SecState should take up the issue of Mexican interference in our elections.

The Diplomad does not buy the idea our intelligence community can assess the intent of Russian leaders to damage Hilary's electability and boost Trump's, they can only guess and in the past they have guessed wrong.

http://www.thediplomad.com

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

https://www.wnyc.org/story/silicon-curtain/

George Rebane

Russ 802am - Excellent point that has been totally missed by Americans (including me). Thanks for the heads up. I hope that under the new administration Congress will also include Mexico in its investigation of who messes with our elections and how they do it.

L

The dots aren't really all that difficult to connect. Of all the things the left has lost since 1990 (other than the USSR), its their self-awareness they miss the most.

The same left that backed every initiative of Soviet foreign policy from Cuba to the PLO, and every thing in between, now suddenly has a problem with the Rooskies? Why?

Probably (see how easy this was) because the Russians are no longer their fellow-travelling communist buddies. Glad to have been of help. L

Paul Emery

No problem with the Russians. they are now our friends. Just ask the 36% of Republicans that support them.

George Rebane

PaulE 1221pm - Where did you learn that 36% of Republicans "support" Russians, and what kind of support are you talking about??

Bill Tozer

Absolutely no worries here. We got Sarah Palin keeping an eye on Russia, and Trump is doing his tweeting war with China. Got all bases covered.

Man, that China really leaves no doubt they were there. Now, that's what I call real hacking. Get in there all scoop up everything. Get them businessmen all riled up when the Yellow Peril steals....and I mean steals.....all that near priceless intellectual property. They take it all don't even leave a tip. Been going on for years...too long, I say.
Who cares if some minor political party's computers secured by interns fresh out of college gets hacked. Yawn. Now, intelligencual property gets me putting the war paint on. Let's make America great again.
And To think that some are wetting their beds over a some small political party campaign managers' computer files getting shared with the world. Hey, he didn't lose anything, duh.

Paul Emery

George

Once again
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/ro9rimrce9/econTabReport.pdf

36% of Republicans have a favorable or somewhat favorable of Putin. Can you name me one thing about Putin that you find "favorable".

Here's a definaion to fine tune your response

Favorable

to the advantage of someone or something.
"they made a settlement favorable to the unions"
synonyms: advantageous, beneficial, in one's favor, good, right, suitable, fitting, appropriate; propitious, auspicious, promising, encouraging
"conditions are favorable"

Todd Juvinall

But Paul Emery, I saw a poll somewhere that said you libs are loving Fidel at a fourty percent clip. So what is it about him you dig?

Paul Emery

I'm a Libertarian Todd. Doesn't apply to me. You are a Republican. This applies to your kind.

Can you link me to your information?

Bill Tozer

Unbelieve, 4 days in a row. Hey Paul, be a dear and post that link again. I have seemed to have misplaced it. Thanks darling. Oh, President Obama cited it yesterday...some poor hearer then got sick and threw up. It was horrible. What a way to say goodbye.

Paul Emery

You're babbling Bill. what are you trying to say?

Paul Emery

The influence of Trump on Republicans has created this softening on the Republican view of Putin. This will lead to a pullback of the economic sanctions placed on Russia by Obama. that will be the payback enacted by our new Sec of State that will aid EXXON who were opposed to the sanctions from the start. A few months under Trump and Putin will be hanging out at the Trump Tower, kissing babies and staring in parades.

George Rebane

PaulE 129pm - Was that your answer to my 1234pm?

Paul Emery

George

I referred to the link that showed 37% of Republicans having a somewhat favorable view of Putin. Linked at 12:55 Way below the Dems who responding to the same question with 12% this is a startling difference that illustrates the influence of Trump on Republicans..

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery, you walk like a duck, talk like a duck and spew like a liberal duck. You are a liberal. And since you never answer our questions, you act totally like a liberal. What happened to your "dark money" BS regarding Citizen's United? You really have no clue do you?

George Rebane

PaulE 148pm - Have no idea of what link you referenced, please repeat. And does "having a somewhat favorable view" mean the same as your 1221pm "support"??

Paul Emery

Yeah George it all relates to that poll. It implies to the increased support for Putin from
Republicans. Did you ever open the link?

George Rebane

PaulE 245pm - One more time, please give me the link.

Paul Emery

George


https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/ro9rimrce9/econTabReport.pdf

Putin Favorability is line 28 link Cant link to it directly

Bill Tozer

Come on Paul, keep playing that endless loop. You have been posting it for 90 hours, lol. Please find it again for us. I can't see it either. Are you stuck on stupid, or just stuck?

The world will be a safer place with Putin hanging out in the Tower and kissing babies brought to him to be blessed. Let's try something new.

Paul, keep that endless loop playing over and over and over in your head. This is fun. Are you frustrated yet? Give your latest theory another go. Come on, put it out there. I just don't understand your point you are struggling to convey. Try it again, but this time with feeling!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YZd5SgjZzbs

Scott Obermuller

Now Paul thinks he's a Libertarian. Well, why not? Anyone can be anything these days. Just tap your ruby slippers together and make a wish.
In other news, John Podesta wrote a piece that The Wash Post ran today. He starts with this bit:
"The more we learn about the Russian plot to sabotage Hillary Clinton’s campaign and elect Donald Trump, and the failure of the FBI to adequately respond, the more shocking it gets."
Actually, what we've learned is that the CIA hasn't got a single fact.
But if enough folks keep telling the same lie, it becomes a big deal. This is from the guy that was the chairman of Hillary's campaign which was based largely on constant lies about Trump. How well did that work out?
Paul and other lefties buy right into this nonsense and already have visions of Putin having his way with American foreign policy. Oh wait - Putin already has his way with American foreign policy. Strange - Trump isn't even POTUS yet.

Todd Juvinall

I really could care less what the little noggin of Paul thinks. He is always nowhere to be found when we ask him a question. You would think we;d learn to disregard him. Anyway, he lost as Trump says, "big league" and his panties are in a wad. Sad.

Scott Obermuller

Paul serves a purpose. Sometimes comic relief. He's now pushing a poll that apparently was done by a hard left news org. He can't find any other poll that backs up this poll, but by gum, if he can find a single poll that suits him, then that is complete and total proof of whatever that poll purports to show.
Remember the polls he quoted about the election?
How did those polls do? Paul?
He could just go out on the street and ask actual Rs if they view Putin favorably, but why bother talking to people in person? He's got a poll!
Total comedy.

Paul Emery

The Poll was conducted by the Economist Magazine Scott. Amazing that you have no interest in the topic.

George Rebane

Since PaulE will not provide the link to the poll he cites, can anyone else help out here? Please!

Walt

Hay Paul.. I recall you pushing POLLS that Trump would lose the nomination. When that augured in , it was the POLLS that Trump would never win. That info showed up as a flaming bag of dog crap on your front porch that you stomped on barefoot. Now you trott some other meaningless poll like a prized sheep at the fair.

Pick a new battle... Say... The disenfranchised pot smoker, who can't smoke pot, because his employer still has the right to drug test for a drug free workplace. Who's right is more important? The wannabe dope smoker, or the employer looking to keep his liabilities to a minimum?
Come on man,, get back to what's important in Nevada City.

Paul Emery

George I provided the link to the poll several times the last time 4:00 PM Check it out and let me know you found it.

Paul Emery

Actually the polls were pretty much right on showing Hillary by around 2.5%. She won the popular vote by a little over 2% She did not win the EC as we know but the polls were pretty much right on.

He's your guy and won.

George Rebane

PaulE 601pm - Got it Paul. Now, did you answer my 220pm? In any event, I interpret 'favorable' as in the comparative attributes of a national leader in pursuing his country's interests, such as: decisive, strong, evidence of strategic thinking, successful, ... . I don't interpret the 37%'s ratings as approving of his methods of how he rules Russians. The results of the poll would have been different had the question been, 'Do you favor Putin as a corrupt autocratic thug who uses violence to suppress his opposition while claiming to be a democrat?'

Paul Emery

Not exactly George but it shows that Republicans are far more inclined to show a favorable attitude towards Putin than the Dems. Obviously you are more inclined to support something you have a more favorable view of than something you don't have a favorable view of. Shows the influence of Trump on the Republicans softening them up for pro Russia policy first to be manifested by dropping sanctions .

Bill Tozer

Sorry Dr. Rebane, I refuse to help ya. I want to see the monkey trying to hump the football for a few more days. Hint: Even O mentioned the 37% yesterday on his goodbye tour.....it was so moving. Nope, ain't going to give it up. See, Trump said we would get used to winning and never grow tired of winning. Sorry, Doc. This is too much fun....something you never grow tired of. :).

Yo Paul, who cares if Podesta's computer was hacked. It was not like it was official government stuff....just private stuff from a barely recognizable minor political party
.
Yo Paul, is that the same CIA that altered its report and analysis, and then told us Benghazi was caused by a spontaneous demonstration, sparked by a never heard of or seen Internet video? What poll????? Please repost, Pleeeeeaaaaasssseeee.

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UPDATE: you know, with Hillary's unsecured e-mails full of State Secrets and secret agents names and locations all on her home brewed server in her bathroom, there is a good chance that some of our contacts, informants, and undercover operatives over in Raghead Land got eliminated.....wacked....terminated. I dunno, but if it was one of my buddies or one of my men, I would be gunning for revenge......and drawing a bead on Hillary to expose her sorry ass....In memory of the fallen, of course. Plenty of folks with motive and opportunity.......

Bill Tozer

Hillary gave her big Thankyou party last night for her biggest donors. Trump has been flying around giving his Thankyou rallies to the voters.

Hillary comes out from the shadows to give her biggest donors a thank you party. Trump goes out to give the people a thank you 'hand clapping knee slapping foot stomping shindig.' Let that sink in.

Nope, ain't going to give it up. Nothing to see here. FYI: Podesta had his arms crossed and a pained face at the $100k/night Ballroom party. He looked none too happy. Guess money can't buy you love.

Scott Obermuller

from Paul: "The Poll was conducted by the Economist Magazine Scott."
Uh, OK - did I say it wasn't?
"Amazing that you have no interest in the topic."
WTF???!!
Paul brought us poll after poll that he would use to prove that Trump would never win the presidency and now Paul is claiming victory. You go, Paul! Glad to see you get a gold star on your forehead.
As I said, Paul is nothing if not comic relief.

Paul Emery

Claiming Victory Scott? My guy Gary Johnson lost. Your guy Trump won. Yep, you're the winner.

Scott Obermuller

"Claiming Victory Scott?"
Let's go back - way back - to 6:12 (today).
"She did not win the EC as we know but the polls were pretty much right on."
No, Paul - darn near every single poll said Hillary would be POTUS. And you gleefully brought them here to rub our noses in it.
They were wrong and she lost.
They were not even close to right on - they were fully and completely wrong. All those polls showing how Trump had already lost even before the voting had begun because of the EC.
Now you come up with one single poll that shows a hypothetical love for Putin by Rs and you roll that into some diabolical plot in which Putin and his merry gang will take over America. I know a lot of Rs Paul and none of them like Putin. None. Even if the poll is correct there is not even a majority of Rs that like Putin.
Here's an idea, Paul - why don't you go back over the several months of the campaign and remind us of the polls you provided links to and figure out the percentage of them that were totally wrong. Then explain why we're supposed to get all in a huff about some supposed huge Republican led Putin love-fest.

Don Bessee

PE- time to get a new ganja strain, the one you are into is making you waaaaayyyy to paranoid.;-)

Bill Tozer

It wasn't the polls that Paul quoted all election season that is the issue.....it was Paul saying the Republican Party would be destroyed, back to the drawing board, and Trump will never win, Never!! Zero chance.

Yo Paul, did you ever pay George off on your bet? Or did you pull another Paul and neatly avoid the subject? You are a creepy dude and have little talent.

Scott Obermuller

"You are a creepy dude and have little talent."
Au contraire, Mr Bill. Paul does the bob-n-weave like no one else. He's in the OED twice - just look up evasion and deflection. There's a picture of Paul under both entries. Creepy? - Nah, just a might under the influence of North San Juan's finest.

Bill Tozer

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