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12 December 2016

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Bill Tozer

https://www.facebook.com/UncleSamsMisguidedChildren.Net/photos/a.169953786533962.1073741830.169676909894983/598179783711358/?type=3&theater.

Russ

Writing of bomb shelters:

This man builds luxury bomb shelters for the billionaires afraid of doomsday

Robert Vicino believes the rich don't live on the same scale as ordinary people in today's society—so why should that change after the end of the world? For a mere £23,000, his company will make their apocalypse experiences truly swanky.

Check out the picture of lux bomb shelter that have been built

It's a good time to be in a fear-based industry. Public comments from some of the planet's richest people reveal a strain of paranoia about insurrection. At the last annual meeting of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, observers noticed elites growing more alarmed about the possibility of social unrest. Last year, entrepreneur and venture capitalist Nick Hanauer published an open letter to his "Fellow Zillionaires" in Politico Magazine that summed up the growing worry among the wealthy: "What do I see in our future now? I see pitchforks."

http://pulse.com.gh/business/rich-paranoid-this-man-builds-luxury-bomb-shelters-for-the-billionaires-afraid-of-doomsday-id4254365.html

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

http://syriancivilwarmap.com/

Bill Tozer

Chuckle of the Day: Sue the Feds to provide critical habitat protection for vast areas (even whole states) where there are zero species that need protection. Lol.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/18-states-sue-feds-over-expanding-critical-habitat-areas-no

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

http://thelantern.com/2016/12/abdul-razak-ali-artans-name-added-to-student-groups-list-of-people-of-color-killed-by-police/

Don Bessee

The Immigration Reform Law Institute finally got docs showing what 0 has stolen from citizens to facilitate illegal immigration.

The numbers are shocking! $100,000,000.00 since 14' spent to 'feed, house, clothe, transport and amuse the migrants.'

To add insult to injury team 0 slashed funds from Americans Cancer Research and Disability services to give another $167,000,000.00 to the illegal immigrant slush fund.



Don Bessee

Clarification @ 950 --- The 100 mil was only for transportation from the boarder to God knows where.

Walt

This idea for this ship's name has my vote.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/12/13/white-house-petition-suggests-naming-next-navy-ship-uss-deplorables.html

Walt

Now who does this remind you of?
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/12/13/reddit-ceo-admits-he-screwed-up-by-editing-users-comments/
"Reddit CEO Steve Huffman admitted that he “screwed up” and wants Reddit to trust him again following his comment editing scandal, but he still considers members of communities such as the pro-Trump /r/The_Donald to be “bullies.” "

Russ

Oh? It might not be the Russians that hacked the DNC and the Chicago God Father.

GA SECSTATE: INVESTIGATE 'HOMELAND' OVER HACKS!
10 ATTACKS TRACED TO DHS

Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp on Wednesday asked President-elect Donald Trump to investigate the Department of Homeland Security's apparent attempt to hack his office's computer system.

In a letter to Trump, Kemp asked that the president-elect to act once he is sworn in to office in January.

Kemp said he is not satisfied with the response from current DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson.

"Since contacting DHS with these concerns, we have collaborated with the agency and provided extensive, additional information," Kemp wrote. "Last night I received a letter from Secretary Johnson which lacked any specific information as to the attacks' intent or origin despite the fact that many questions remain unanswered."

http://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/brian-kemp-seeks-donald-trump-aid-alleged-hacking/njzSSIpqHww8C9dcHlF1PP/

Bill Tozer

Great Ivan's Ghost. The media must have Attention Deficient Disorder. Yesterday at this time every news outlet was going nuts over the Rooskies. The Russians are not coming, they are here! That got my juices flowing. I was hoping "Commie Pinko" was coming back in vogue. That would have made me a bon-a-fiided ahead of the curve fellow. What goes around comes around. I just knew I was a trend setter with my Commie Pinko phrase which I love to label our Left Wingnuts with.

But, noooooooooo. Today, Putin got put back in the closet. Darn. I guess I will have to keep my powder dry and not fire off any Commie Pinkos at liberals. Well, patience comes to those who wait. It ain't easy living with OCD. Darn that fickle MSM. What a bunch of Commie Pinkos.

Bill Tozer

Yo Walt. Here is the perfect stocking stuffer for your liberal friends and acquaintances.

https://www.facebook.com/UncleSamsMisguidedChildren.Net/photos/a.169953786533962.1073741830.169676909894983/600502910145712/?type=3&theater

Seasons Greeting, y'all.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/975456105921760/?type=3&theater

Walt

Too good Bill,,, Too damned good. Jiffy Lube can open a drive through bay in Nevada City.
I'm sure that goop can be dispensed through grease guns. " just hang your chafed butt out the window and pull through. Our stoned technicians will apply the proper LIBeral amounts
to the inflamed orifice.".

Walt

In local news,,,(our anti gunners ain't going to like this)

"Just prior to the shooting, Scola was engaged in a heated verbal argument with one of the residents. After walking away for a brief period, Scola reportedly returned and broke into the residence armed with a shotgun. Moments later another resident of the home, fearing for his life and others in the home, fired multiple handgun rounds at Scola."

http://www.theunion.com/news/nevada-county-sheriff-shootout-preceded-self-inflicted-fatal-shot-in-cascade-shores/

George Boardman

Poor Donald, he can't get any A-list talent to perform at his inauguration. People paying for those big bucks tickets might be stuck with Kid Rock and Ted Nugent.

http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/the-wrap/article/Insiders-Trump-Team-Dangled-Ambassadorships-to-10796165.php

fish

Posted by: George Boardman | 14 December 2016 at 04:24 PM


You know you can get Katy Perry, Justin Timberlake, and Beyonce' on your iPod now George......no inauguration required......true fact!

George Rebane

GeorgeB 424pm - Well then Mr Boardman, perhaps you could offer to do a few well-chosen readings from Pasternak and Solzhenitsyn that would serve ;-)

fish

Another fake Trump related hate crime.....that's unpossible!


SHE MADE IT UP: NYPD Arrests Muslim Girl Who Claimed Attack by Trump Supporters


http://heatst.com/life/she-made-it-up-nypd-arrests-muslim-girl-who-claimed-attack-by-trump-supporters/

Bill Tozer

@ 4:24 PM
No worries Mr. Boardman. Trump is sending a terrific Lawrence Welk impersonator over to LOP (yes, complete with the bubble Machine) to serenade you and your loved ones on Inauguaration Day. You won't miss a thing. Terrific!

Yoo-hoo, Mr. Boardman, Mr. Boardman! Walt has stocking stuffer for you.

Whatcah think about Bill Gates comparing Dr. D. J. Trump to JFK?? Awesome. Bill struts in to the Tower and Trump greeted him with all terriiic pleasantries and Trump starts talking about some ball busting foaming at the mouth go-getter he was thinking about appointing to run the Anit-Trust Division over at Justice. Trump was thinking out loud about needing a real A-Hole pissed off Mo-Fro to bust up a huge monopoly. Trump then caught himself and continued his nice meeting with Gates.

How would you like to be a NeverTrumpster and then suddenly realize you are the guy who created Twitter and you are the reason why Trump won, ROFLMAO.

Fake it until you make. Oh, FYI. Your Bubble Machine includes old videos of Mutual of Obama's Wild Kingdom and even Loren Green doing Alpo commercials. You won the lottery!

fish

LYNDSEY: THE REDS HACKED ME .....


I do hope that is a computer related thing and not some gay senator face in the pillow euphemism!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/top-us-republican-senator-says-russians-hacked-campaign-003042402.html

Don Bessee

Boardman 424- Go tell it to the Dark Lord of Liberal Lament Land.

George Boardman

Lawrence Welk? Forget it, we have the LOPsiders.

We'll be able to dance through the night into 2017 to the musical stylings of Joe Banana and His Bunch, the band with a peel.

Gregory

Yep, Hillary sure managed to sign top acts. Democrats can be rightly proud of all that star power.

Don Bessee

Fish 504- Poor little snow flake Yasmin Seweid, its not her fault. The communist mayor DeBlasio is to blame because his school system failed to teach her that the NY transit system is one of the most surveilled places in the world. ;-)

Bill Tozer

Now this puts a burr in my saddle. First they rape and scar our great land, then they are murdering endangered species with callous abandon. What ever happened to open space? I thought the ESA trumped everything in the land. You go out to get away from it all and you come over a rise and see miles upon miles of evil Mean Green Endangered Species Killing Machines. Not to mention the spilt blood crying out from the earth for justice.

I cannot stomach our Great Half White Father in Washington. He speaks with forked tongue. This is disgusting and immoral.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/14/final-wind-turbine-rule-permits-thousands-eagle-deaths.html?cq_ck=1481743208977

Paul Emery

This is really creepy. 37% of Republicans have a "somewhat favorable" or favorable view of Putin. This is at the same time as Russians are contributing to the genocide in Aleppo as we speak. The Dems are 12% combined. Looks like mission accomplished by hacking and releasing emails. Looks like they got their guy in their now.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/ro9rimrce9/econTabReport.pdf

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 14 December 2016 at 07:11 PM


She's not going to be president Paul......!


You should probably just get over it....oh I forgot......you voted for Johnson!

Bill Tozer

Paul.
Yes, isn't it grand!!!! Never thought I would ever have to flip a coin to see who is worse, Obama or Putin. I just can'tell which is the lesser of two evils.

Don Bessee

PE- Most of the democrats are socialist/communist, so are you saying Bernie should have run for Prez with Vlad on the ticket? ;-)

Paul emery

32% of Republicans have a somewhat favorable or favorable view of putin. I have to repeat it.

Paul emery

Bill

What is it you find someone favorable about Putin?

fish

Posted by: Paul emery | 14 December 2016 at 07:31 PM


It's another episode of Uncle Paul's Question Time!

.......RUN!

Walt

OK Paul, it's evident that you have forgotten.(and so soon?) "Republican" doesn't hold water anymore. More of a reference these days. That "32%" is from the RINO population.

Besides. Putin only exploited "O"' the nutless. Putin KNEW "O" was spinless. You need to brush up on Russian thinking.
I recall the Russian newspapers and media questioning just why on earth we elected "O" in the first place. " We just got out from under Communism, and now you're subscribing to it?"
Forget that too?

Don Bessee

This is getting pathetic PE. Where were you when 0 and madam liar liar pantsuits on fire gave away the farm to Putin? Ganga got your brain man? You seem to have forgotten 0's open mike to Medvedev about how 0 would be a bigger p***y in his second term. Then there was madam liar liar pantsuits on fire and that classic dem stunt with the Staples reset button that had the wrong Russian word for reset. Fawning and slobbering at Putin's feet was the 0's ( your) way.

They threw Poland under the bus on the agreed nuke defense systems, screwed Georgia, Ukraine and shipped all our tanks home from Europe. They handed the Russians the middle east on a platter. Enough bull shit PE, Trump ran on rebuilding 0's hollow military and repositioning us as a strong world leader, not a wait for others to lead and then follow like 0. Trump while campaigning called out NATO on failing to meet its statutory obligations for minimum contributions to the general defense of Europe and what happened? You suddenly were a NATO hawk and the EU started ramping up spending before President Trump had even taken the oath.

Your Trump deraignment syndrome makes you fail to recognize posturing for negotiations. Go sell it on peeps, no one who is informed is buying what you are hard selling, make that hardly selling. ;-)

Paul Emery

Don

rump says about Putin "

"If he says great things about me, I'm going to say great things about him," the Republican nominee said.

"I've already said he is very much of a leader. The man has very strong control over his country."

"You can say, 'Oh, isn’t that a terrible thing,' I mean, the man has very strong control over his country," the Manhattan billionaire added.

Pretty gooey endorsement by our President elect.

Walt

Why not Paul? He's right. Once again the truth means nothing to those with a Lefty limp.

Paul Emery

So you're one if the 32% Walt.

Don Bessee

Its clear Paul that you have never worked in an environment that required negotiations to achieve your goals or make money. Butter him up a little then hire a tough world wise negotiator as Sec State and build up the military are all good ground work to corral the little KGB freaks ambitions.

Vlad- I don't think the Russian people can go along with that proposal Rex.

Secretary Tillerson- Sorry to hear that Vlad, we know you are under so much pressure from the increase in our prime lending rates. The thing is you know we are now pumping massive amounts of natural gas and we have no choice, we are going to have to send it to your former European gas customers from our new LNG terminal on the east coast. They call it missile defense for a reason vlad. Love to the new wife, see ya at the UN. ;-)

Paul Emery

Am I reading you correctly Don

You are saying that Tillerson should use his power as exec of Exxon to negotiate with Putin. If confirmed he will have no power over Exxon so how could he make that promise?

Bill Tozer

Those are the old Republicans they polled. We are the new Republicans, silly. Ok, who grabbed Paul's pussy tonight? .

Meanwhile, back to newsworthy stuff.

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/762799753870249/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/977234762410561/?type=3&theater

Now, the question of the day:

http://unclesamsmisguidedchildren.com/next-navy-ship-named-uss-deplorables/

Don Bessee

Paul you can read but have no comprehension at all, willful?

Bill Tozer

Round and round the mulberry bush, the monkey chased the weasel

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/976013685866002/?type=3&theater

Gregory

Paul, Hillary Reset Clinton spent a year using Putin as a foil... of course Dem regard for Putin would be low. And the GOP number down below 1/3 is pretty dismal.

Expert Tillerson won't be resorting to silly stunts like a gag RESET button like a recent failed Sec'y of State.

Bessee, Paul's MO is erecting straw man arguments for his sparring partners when he doesn't have a counter for what they actually say.

Don Bessee

Now I get why poor Paul is having such a hard time (other than the general Trump derangement syndrome) only a quarter of Americans trust or think well of his profession. WOW, that's worse than Putin and used car salesmen! But hey, his profession still does better than ISIS. ;-)

Bill Tozer

Don @ 8:03 PM.
Thanks Mr. Bessie, I forgot about that one.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/976813349119369/?type=3&theater

Fish @7:36 PM
"It's another episode of Uncle Paul's Question Time!

.......RUN!"

Nah, no place to run. My legs just don't fly like the wind like they used to. Avoidance is probably the wisest and best option, but ain't my style. Replying and arguing is just a waste of precious time and energy. Attacking the lame, the slow, the mentally incapacitated would be unethical. Can't run, can't hide, can't attack. A dilemma for sure.

Hmmm. Perhaps a defensive strangely might be in order.

https://www.facebook.com/UncleSamsMisguidedChildren.Net/photos/a.169953786533962.1073741830.169676909894983/600524006810269/?type=3&theater

Bill Tozer

Yeah, I meant defensive strategy might be in order. Welcome to Trump's parlor said the spider to the fly. We have taken everything this entire globe has thrown at us and we are still standing at the end of the day. I love the Sandbox! Bring it on.

BradC

For those of you planning a pilgrimage to Mekka, I mean Trump Tower, beware...

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/12/trump-grill-review

Bill Tozer

Thanks for the heads up Brad. I don't like hotel food myself. Too pricy and too fancy smancy. Yes, there is no accounting for taste. White House food is better and free, FYI. Guess us Irredeemables be living in the Lincoln Bedroom while Mr. Trump holds court in the Mekka of West, known as New York City.

Paul Emery

Gregory

At least one Libertarianish Republican is taking a stand against Neocon John Bolton. At least we can agree on that. What a bullshitter Trump is when he campaigns against the Iraq war and wants to appoint one of the wars engineers Bolton to the #2 Defense spot,

"Some of the loudest and potentially most consequential libertarian dissent has come in response to Trump’s flirtation with Bolton for a plum job at the State Department, possibly as the No. 2 to ExxonMobil CEO Rex Tillerson, whom Trump named as his secretary of state pick on Tuesday.

Bolton, the former United Nations ambassador and ultra-hawkish conservative who strongly supported the Iraq war, has particularly stoked the ire of Paul in the Senate.

“I am a no on John Bolton for ANY position in the State [Department] and will work to defeat his nomination to any post,” Paul tweeted on Sunday.

Paul sits on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and has the power to stop the committee from recommending Bolton, if Democrats unanimously join in to block him. Other prominent libertarian outlets, including leaders with Young Americans for Liberty, have been quick to back him up.


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/donald-trump-libertarians-232659

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 15 December 2016 at 08:47 AM


As much as it pains me to say this.....I agree with you on the potential Bolton appointment.

BradC

Obviously not a political insider - but I just didn't see Bolton being on somone's 'short list'.
I wonder how that turd floated to the surface - heavy rains?

fish

More questionable behavior from Europes stray pet problem!


50 Christian Statues Defaced and Decapitated in Germany


I hope jon considers this when he's "playing pony" with his Turkish "friends"!

BradC

If there is one subject I would like to see The Donald address it would be our involvement in the United Nations.

United Nations - your fired!

George Rebane

fish 934am - This is an important milestone in mixing Islam with non-Islamic host cultures - the desecration of host cultural symbols and totems. They are not like us.

fish

Posted by: George Rebane | 15 December 2016 at 09:43 AM

This is not the behavior of refugees....it is the behavior of invaders!


When all is said and done I expect to see Grandma STASI at the end of a rope!


Oh....even though I stated that my interaction with the FUE on your site was over (He finally "tapped out" with his bleating about Thyber Bullying....and when a 58 year old "man" whines like a teenaged girl I'm inclined to take him at his word that he was feeling thcared!) he is raking you over the coals about the Tech Test again.

Gregory

Paul, there you go again, changing the subject rather than face the questions you've dodged. I'll be happy to discuss Bolton if you'll answer one from the past, and I'll make it a more stark choice... do you fear Russians disrupting a US election by planting lies of theirs, or do you fear Russians disrupting a US election by uncovering lies by Democratic Party hacks?

No, Rand Paul is not a Libertarianish Republican... "Libertarian", capital L, generally refers to the party, not the philosophy.

Todd Juvinall

Democrats led by Obama are trying to undermine our national election. They cannot stand the fact they lost so they keep tossing crapola against the wall hoping something will stick. The latest is Josh Ernest, Press Secretary for Obama claiming the Russian President, Vladimir Putin, interfered in the election and favored Trump over Hillary. There is no proof in that yet for some reason Obama is pressing it. He won't let his intelligence agencies testify in front of Congress which means he is hiding something. Why can't the American people here their proof? Oh, because there is none of course. What is the upshot of the democrats trying to ruin our elective system? Short term to get Trump's Electoral College voters to change their votes? Long term to suppress voter turnouts? Who knows, but the democrats are really desperate and will stop at nothing to get Trump's victory tossed.

But who wins in this track? Other countries that usually see a peaceful transition of power may not be as impressed? I really think the democrats did not get their trophy for showing up and are having a three year old's tantrum. Our media needs to ensure both points of view are discussed at every opportunity. Not just the whiners from the democrat party. Their attempt to undermine our election and throw doubt into the results is truly "North Korean" to me. What does Castro's form of government have on us if the democrats are allowed to continue these lies? Nothing! Kim Jong Un is laughing his nuclear warhead ass off. Putin is getting all this credit for hacking while it actually could be a democrat mole, Bernie Sanders supporter! Why is that not out of the question? People supporting Sanders were really mad the democrats screwed him out of the nomination by subterfuge. So one of them got back at them. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz was outed and fired so why not Hillary's pal Podesta's emails? That is as rational to me as a foreign power.

And how come there is no proof of hacking the actual ballots? Only the allegation from the democrats that Wikileaks propagandized the shenanigans of the democrats. Which I guess convinced millions to abandon Hillary and go for Trump./ Sure, what a crock. So all of you that agree with me send this or share this view and let the nation know we are not allowing the left to steal our victory. Steal like they did in the Minnesota Senate and Washington State Governor. And countless others. Liars never prosper.

George Rebane

fish 1003am - Agreed. RR's position has been from the beginning that the Islamic colonization of Europe, according to their own literature, is nothing but the resumption of the Battle of Vienna in 1683. Only the west's little read and naifs (aka progressives) believe otherwise.
http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2010/02/of-ragheads-and-racism.html

And thanks for the heads up on FUE - looks like it's a slow day for grand openings of local retail merchants and readership is down. It still appears that none of his regulars have dawned on the conundrum of why RR continues as a perennial target for their ad hominems if it and its readers are insignificant and irrelevant in the local scheme of things. Can they not connect the obvious dots?

Bill Tozer

Paul, you are way too late to the party. We have been dissing Bolton for a couple of weeks now because, like you, he may be a neocon....along with Little Marco, Tiny Lyndsey, and McCain, and of course, the Globalists.

I was screaming that Hillary and Obama (In other places, mostly) were pushing for a direct military confrontation with Russia in Syria. Her no fly zone in Syria would have lead to intervention. Remember the no fly zone in Iraq after Desert Storm under W? It was our green light to invasion. Day by day during this election the drumbeats for war were being pounded from the Administration and the Hillary/Sydney Bloomenthal Camp. More war!!!...rhetoric increased by the week while you were out hyperventilating over friggin tweets and style.

Destabilize the whole Middle East. Put NATO on Russia's borders. Put the Muslim Brotherhood in charge of Syria, Libya, Egypt, and Iraq. How is that working out?????
We did not care for Russian missles 90 miles from our borders and would never tolerate it. Nor should Putin. Remember the Cuban missles crisis?

Hillary called Putin a Nazi for goodness sake's..Not very diplomatic for a Secretary of State. Everything has been turned on it's head. The Democrat leadership (Globalists and Statists) are the neocons and the right is be hammered for being doves. Go figure. Liberalism by its inherent nature IS international expansion. I see no difference between liberalism and Jihad.

Hillary arming of the Syrian "rebels" (aka Islamofascists murdering Stone Age "Freedom Fighters") with arms taken from Libya and placed in ISIS's hands was a disaster. First, Libya was no threat to us and it was Hillary's brainchild, along with the EU. Those arms went straight to ISIS via the rebels we chose to back (from Benghazi of all places) and helped blood thirsty fanatics gain large swaths of land in Iraq and Syria.....to kill your beloved female Kurdish fighters, American troops, our advisers, Russians, and Syrian and Iraqi civilian Shias. Heck, they even treat their own Sunnis as doormats, slaves. and sex slaves. Glucked up, man.

What a cluster. Why we are even in Syria I have not a clue, expect Assad is a puppet of the Kremlin and they want to box Putin in and arm resistance to Moscow through countries formerlly in the USSR...like on her border.

At least Russia did more in 7 days to ISIS than Obama did in 9 months....after we gave him of our Intel!! In less than two weeks he wiped their oil conveys out before reaching the Turkish coasts....something our planes were told not to do because of our ass backward rules of engagement.

Now, Bolton is our former ambassor to the UN and will submit to our new President's Trump Doctrine. He ain't 100% bad either, but he is of the Mitt Romney camp. Bolton knows all the cast of characters and is experienced. He will do what Trump tells him to or he will hear the words, You're Fired. But, it is best if we avoid all the neocons from the left and the right....all of them. They will lead us to the Eve of Destruction.

It is the Establishment that wants neocons in charge. Same with the bloodthirsty psychotic tyrants behind the curtain in the European Parliament, an unelected body.
Wars come and go, but avoidable needless wars are unpalatable. . .to put it mildly.
Paul your misguided comments about Putin last night just played inte hands of Neocons and building Putin hysteria up to a French. He is a mo-fro, but just one of many. You are pounding the drumbeats of war. Glad to see you your are wary of Ambassador Bolton. We ALL must remain vigilant and not give the war mobgers any openings.

Gregory

What we are seeing in the Democratic Party is an apres election tantrum.

They lost, they should get over it.

Yes, Trump is a flawed candidate, but since from a WikiLeaked email we know Democratic Party insiders were pushing their lickspittle journalists to promote Trump at the beginning of the Primary season, it seems particularly fitting they accept the result. You broke it, you own it.

It's also clear that no matter the GOP candidate, lickspittle Democratic journalists would have been pushing that candidate as the racist, sexist, bigoted homophobe du jour, just as they have done in every election I can recall, while ignoring the Libertarian and the Green/P&F candidates so as to drive the voters to the Democratic nominee as the only alternative choice.

Paul Emery

Liars never prosper Todd? Serial liar Oliver North did prety well for himselm after becoming a famous lia. From Nancy Reagan

"October 29, 1994|By BOB KEMPER Daily Press

Former first lady Nancy Reagan broadsided Republican Senate candidate Oliver North Thursday night, saying North is a liar unable to distinguish fact from fiction.

"I know Ollie North has a great deal of trouble separating fact from fantasy," Mrs. Reagan said during a public appearance in New York. "He lied to my husband and lied about my husband, kept things from him that he should not have kept from him, and that's about what I think about Ollie North," she said.

Paul Emery

Gregory asks me

" do you fear Russians disrupting a US election by planting lies of theirs, or do you fear Russians disrupting a US election by uncovering lies by Democratic Party hacks?"

I fear the Russians getting involved in our politics in ANY way. It's obvious they prefer Trump and he's become their best PR mam as evidenced in recent polls showing remarkable affection for him by Republicans. As far as Putin is concerned what is their not to like about Trump being President.
Can you show me one word Trump has said about the Russians assisting the genocide in Allepo as we speak?

Trump taking advantage of Russian stolen information is near treason in my view. What does Putin gain by Trump being President? That's the question we should be asking.

Paul Emery

Gregory

Trump tapped Tillerson for secretary of state despite his history of arguing against sanctions on Russia, which could affect Exxon’s joint ventures with Russia’s state oil company. In 2013, Putin awarded Tillerson the Order of Friendship in honor of his efforts to improve U.S.-Russia ties. Looks like a payback for Putin after his assistance in getting Trump elected.

I never was a Clinton supporter so the revelations posted by Putin do not surprise me.

Bill Tozer

Opps, per usual. Building this anti-Putin mantra up to a friggin frenzy. The drums of War.

Russia has its national interests, so does the Chinese, North Koreans, Iranians, Bolivians, and the USA. We have to do business with a lot of dangerous people in our world and we must face them......but to make them out to be Hitter Incarnate is just an excuse to have our sons and daughters come home in body bags...on our dime.

If you think that the Iranians, Chinese, North Koreans, and every friend and foe had not been hacking our system then you do have shit for brains. It's called Cyper Warfare and it did not start yesterday. We are good at hacking, spreading misinformation, spreading disinformation, sabotage foreign networks, and collecting Intel ourselves. We even hacked Merkel's cell phone. It's called collecting information.

BTW, anybody notice during this whole Wikileaks and Russian operatives in Trump's Cabinet foolishness that the subject of Hillary's 33,000 missing e-mails has been muted? It was not Wikileaks.... but one of those 33.000 e-mails has been leaked. Somebody has them and released just one to let us know they have them....talk about a beeline to blackmail. We dodged a bullet with Hillary losing...fair and square.

Wonder who hacked the SS numbers, relatives' addresses and phone numbers, background checks of what..a few hundred thousand government employees (and gov't contractors) personnel files. They...whoever they are...they have your mother's maiden name and the names of your 2nd grade teachers and........it's Cyper Warfare and it did not begin in 2016.
It's not all drugs, sex, and rock n roll nor flower power. It's games...dangerous but necessary games. All I am saying is give peace a chance. We can do business with them without going to war.

Ollie North. Paul, you are one fucked up guy living in a make believe world of unicorns and lollipops. Stick to legalized grass.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9w3E3eFMsLg

BradC

People of all stripes, stars, hammers and sickles are hacking the hell out of the Internet.
I gues the libs expected the government to protect their URLs - and got hacked. Trump and the RNC might have better webgeeks and security protocols.

Paul Emery

Bill

I was just using Ollie as an example of someone who profited by being a liar. You surely must agree.

George Rebane

re PaulE 1110am - I'm still waiting for the link to the US government source that concludes and accuses the Russian government of having hacked Hillary's and DNC's emails. I don't expect PaulE to supply such information, but perhaps someone else can. But I do find the "treasonous" connection to the use of the emails' public domain info content to be somewhat remarkable if not overboard. Paraphrasing another reader who previously asked - would it still be unethical (or "near treasonous") to use stolen information about a planned terrorist strike to defend against that and future such strikes? Now dial that down to lesser criminal activities. Now dial it down to revelations of unscrupulous and unethical actions by national leaders. If such a boundary against use of hacked emails in the public domain exists, where/what should it be?

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery. Oliver North? Is that the most recent and best you can do? You are deranged Paul.

Bill Tozer

Ok, let's get to the meat and potatoes of this: Goldberg slams both Trump and the Corrupt Crying Dems. It's the last two paragraphs that is what really is going on here. Maybe we should really look for solutions....after Trump is sworn in.

"It’s a poisonous situation all around. Trump refuses to budge on his claim to a glorious, massive victory (or back off of his disturbing Putinphilia). Democrats — and much of the media — won’t grapple with the fact that Clinton lost fair and square, and they are in desperate pursuit of excuses to reject Trump’s legitimacy. Some are even working to give electors an intelligence briefing before they have to vote, presumably in an effort to overturn the election. The only hope is that after Trump has been sworn in, both sides can revisit the issue of Putin’s clearly insidious agenda, without the specter of a “do-over” coloring everything people say — and everything Trump hears."

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/443017/russian-hacking-2016-election-democrats-trump-react

Walt

It seems to me, that the Left is peeved that they have been stopped from making the U.S.
into another Communist block nation. Hillary is their version of Putin.( at least Hillary kept her shirt on....I Shudder at the thought...)
Still no evidence put forth that Russia did anything. Just accusations.

Did you hear what "baghdad Bob" of the W.H. had to say today? Is he looking for a gig on Saturday Night Live?

Bill Tozer

Paul, the big picture is I think you are laying the ground work for impeachment or invalidate the election. We have a trust issue here.

Todd once said Snowden (or Assange) was a traitor, and you shot back he is a hero. Which one is it? Sure, Bush lied and people died was your one trick pony...for years. But now you believe everything Intel says as gospel. It's ok to stick it to da man....unless it's your ox being gored, then you drip with incredulous moral outrage.

BTW, The Evil Hannity who once called Assange a traitor, now says he is not a bad fellow, an alright guy. A good person. It just depends on which Da Man is being poked in the eye. I cannot get past your motives...you are always trying to bring my side down and always ignore the criminal activity and unethical behavior of your side.

Try being a bit more fair, you knucklehead, if you want to have a modicum of anything resembling credibility.

BTW, you now believe polls?? Or just the polls that say I jerk off in front of Putin's portrait??
I will throw you a bone: nobody polled me, but if they did, I would say I like his interest in preserving wild animals and the way he treats his dogs and horses. :)

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/977721815695189/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/976843379116366/?type=3&theater

Paul, it's maddening conversing with you. But, you are still a good guy. You just drive me up the wall. Ollie North? Nancy Reagen was a witch. I know. My step mom's niece was one of the of the maids/housekeeping at Reagen's home after he left office and became ill. She said Nancy ripped her a new one for making sandwiches too big for the Secret Service dudes. They were only allowed one small sandwich each. Poor guys were hungry and she was forbidden to make them a second sandwich or a big sandwich.
Nobody is 100% good nor 100% evil. You pick your sources to fit YOUR narrative, even if it's Nancy Reagen or Newt or Putin. See the forest from the trees.

https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913.80726.51560645913/10154274765685914/?type=3&theater


Paul Emery

No impeachment or reversing the election Bill. A community has as much devious behavior as it deserves thus we have Trump as our Pres.

I don't ever recall calling Assange a hero. Please correct me if you dig up something.

I do believe Polls are one indicator of the mood of the nation. The poll that shows preference for Putin among 32% of Republicans and Conservatives is astounding. Read it before you make a comment

The Economist
/YouGov Poll

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/ro9rimrce9/econTabReport.pdf

Paul Emery

Go to line 29 about Putin

Paul Emery

George

This is the latest ABC report on the matter. The details will come out in a couple days. Even the lamestream, as you call them, would not go thius far out on a limb without full evidence.

Two senior officials with direct access to the information say new intelligence shows that Putin personally directed how hacked material from Democrats was leaked and otherwise used. The intelligence came from diplomatic sources and spies working for U.S. allies, the officials said.

Putin’s objectives were multifaceted, a high-level intelligence source told NBC News. What began as a “vendetta” against Hillary Clinton morphed into an effort to show corruption in American politics and to “split off key American allies by creating the image that [other countries] couldn’t depend on the U.S. to be a credible global leader anymore,” the official said.

Todd Juvinall

Fake News Paul Emery.

Paul Emery

How do you know Todd?

Bill Tozer

Paul, I won't bother to read your poll again. It's meaningless to me. Just another distraction.
I remember a few years ago (when Putin saved Syria from the impending US/NATO invasion over Assad's use of chemical weapons he got from Suddam), that Putin was the most popular man in the whole world...and the most recognizable. Yessiree, the Most Popular man on the planet. Page one story. Man of the Year, the new Peacenik, lol. Give him a friggin Nobel Prize or something. Obama got one, so did that psychopath multi-millionaire stealing from the poor murdering piece of crap exhortionist lying peace-hating Yasser Arrafat. Loved by the liberals. All libs love Castro and Hugo and Mao and Lenin...anybody but Putin. Whatz up with dat???. Putin needs love too! Go pound sand. No more looking under the microscope when it's staring you in the face.

Ok, slam Trump for not bitching about Allepo. Slam Trump for not flailing his arms. Hey, we have a President right now. His name is B. Hussein O. It's his friggin war, asswipe. You got a complaint??? Take it up with our President AND his hand picked Secretary of States, Crooked Hillary and Windsurfer Kerr-Heinz.. Who is in charge right now, Paul? Is it Trump...or is it your lib neocons?? Point your fingers in the proper direction. Opps, your defensive mechanisms won't allow you to. Doesn't fit your narrative. I like Putin more than that POS hater and real racist Obama. His momma and Allah got together and made a turd. Alleopo? Are we still fighting the junior varsity?

https://patriotpost.us/posts/46459

https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913.80726.51560645913/10154269122770914/?type=3&theater


George Rebane

PaulE 116pm - Do these "officials" have names, titles, organizations for which they work??? Or does the innuendo of anonymity continue?

Gregory

Paul, ABC, like virtually all journalists print or video, have been in the tank for Democrats for this election cycle and all others in memory.

They have no credibility going forward. They are the rigged system.

Russia and China aren't doing anything that we aren't doing, and Clinton herself pissed Putin off by claiming his election was rigged. Turn about is sometimes fair game. The big lie often repeated remains that the WikiLeaks were sourced by Russian hackers, and the only evidence for this is "well, the Russians were trying to get at that data". WikiLeaks insiders are adamant that it was an inside job, a leak, not a hack.

Again, in any case the Russkies didn't force Democrats to conspire to get Hillary over the finish line by nefarious means, and it's a shame our free press wasn't free enough to actually cover that story adequately. The current feeding frenzy is an attempt to subvert the election and, if that fails, to damage the incoming President Trump. Partisan politics at its worst.

For shame.

Paul Emery

Gregory, George

I doubt this is the case here. Details will come out no doubt. IT is very rare That a major media would go out on a limb like this without full corroboration of the facts.

Look at how long it took Deep Throat to be public.

You're allowing yourself to be ignorant on this. Too much water gone under the bridge and it's too late to turn back now.

How many times do I have to say that Obama's policy was a continuation of the same disastrous failure that Bush started when he advocated regimen change in Iraq. Trump seems to be leaning towards cuddling up with Putin.

Gregory

" IT is very rare That a major media would go out on a limb like this without full corroboration of the facts."

You mean like Dan Rather's career ending going out on a limb with faked documents said to be from Bush II's National Guard record, or all of Brian Williams personal Fake News?

It happens often, Paul, but the bricks and mortar "news" business doesn't air its dirty laundry out in the open. All they really have are leaks in this case from individuals within a very politicized intelligence service.

Gregory

Paul... true or false... Clinton was for regime change before she was a'gin it?

I recall Senator Clinton arguing on the Senate floor against resuming active hostilities against Baathist Iraq *because* they had WMDs that would be used against our troops, not because it was *wrong*.

Paul, you really have become Fake News incarnate.

Bill Tozer

Wonder what McCain and little Lynsey have to say now about another costly Obama failure. Like men playing football against boys....too easy.

“It did not have to be this way,” Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said in a statement. “But this is the inevitable result of hollow words and inaction, red lines crossed without consequences, tarnished moral influence, ‘leading from behind,’ and a total lack of American leadership.”

They said “the name Aleppo will echo through history, like Srebrenica and Rwanda, as a testament to our moral failure and everlasting shame,” while predicting the Assad regime will use the cease-fire to “reset its war machine and prepare to slaughter its way to victory across the rest of the country.”

At least one reporter was dong his job:

“You’ve failed repeatedly doing the same thing over and over again, which is a combination of trying to bring together people in some sort of talks with, sort of, imperfect cease-fire and then when things go badly you get really angry … and then nothing ever changes,” the reporter charged.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/15/obama-administration-on-defense-over-fall-aleppo.html

Shias broke the cease fire. They be our side.

Paul Emery


Gregory
There are examples but the vast majority of major news stories from major media outlets holds up. Give it a few days and I'm confident I am right on this one. Till then believe whatever you wish. Even Republicans are coming around to accept it.

Sen McCain

“I don’t know what to make of it because it’s clear the Russians interfered,” Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, who chairs the Senate Armed Services Committee, told CBS’ “Face the Nation” on Sunday. “Whether they intended to interfere to the degree that they were trying to elect a certain candidate, I think that’s a subject of investigation. But facts are stubborn things. They did hack into this campaign.”

McCain also discussed senators are working on a bipartisan basis to put together a plan for further investigating the matter.

“We’ll go to work on it, we’ll go to work immediately because the issue of cyber is not a static issue,” McCain told Wallace. “You can’t make this issue partisan, it’s just — it’s too important. A fundamental of a democracy is a free and fair election.”

Sen Graham

Senior US Republican senator Lindsey Graham has said his campaign email account was hacked by Russians.

Sen Graham also told CNN that he believed "the Russians" hacked into the Democratic National Committee, and accused them of trying to "destabilise democracy all over the world".

Officials in Russia have repeatedly denied hacking accusations.

Todd Juvinall

Paul read your last sentence three times and get back to us. And please, give us your proof.

Walt

Here is an application of buttbalm to sooth that inflamed browneye.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/15/loretta-lynch-no-evidence-of-technical-interference-from-the-russians-video/
"U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch stated Thursday that the United States intelligence community has not found any evidence of “technical interference” on the part of the Russian government on voting machines used in the 2016 election."

The vary same witch that handed Hillary her get out of jail free card.

This is fresh off the presses Paul,, Not looking good for your accusations,

Paul emery

Even Republicans are coming around to except it". Was my last sentence Todd I included a couple of examples what more do you want?

Walt

Too good to pass up.
Ca. can't even get Moonbat's train to go,, now the loony tune Gov. wants to launch a satellite.
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/12/15/ca-gov-brown-vows-fight-trump-climate-change/

Be sure that's a "green" rocket. (good luck with that.)

Paul emery

I don't recall anything I said aboutvoting machinesWalt

George Rebane

For the record - As expected, my 211pm is again in the company of crickets. When a progressive has no answer, for him the question simply disappears as if it were never asked.

Bill Tozer

Truth be known, not one of the many factions over there are on our side. Not the Shias, not the Sunnis, not the rebels, or any of their numerous competing factions, not the Syrian army, not the Iranians, not the Iraquis, not even the Kurds. And especially not the beloved Muslim Brotherhood, aka, Obama's "moderates". There are no moderates in Islam. Why the hell did did we get ourselves involved? Because Hillary wanted to? To squeeze Russia? Not to help Israel. We interfered directly in their election to overthrow BeBe. We kiss those who are sworn to destroy us and stab knives in the backs of those who stand by us. With friends like us, who needs enemas.

None over there in Islam Wasteland are on our side, none. They are ALL looking out for their own interests and fighting each other to sit on the throne and crush their oppentents. And they all believe in the genocide of Christians.

Now Iraqi is a proxy state of Iran. Iran's largest trading partner is Russia. Bush left Iraq stable and got Libya to play nice. No Paul, this was not a continuation of The Bush Doctrine. Bush never tried to overthrown Egypt and replace the President with his daddy's beloved Muslim Brotherhood.

Obama is a disgrace. At least Churchill's bust is back in good hands and we will be alowed to say Merry Christmas again.....Christmas, a federally recognized national holiday, but you would have never known it after 8 years of Obama....Obama, the man who went to Cairo and told the Egyptian banned terrorist group The Muslim Brotherhood "I am one of you." Well, he told the truth that day...for once. Before that he spoke the truth another time when he said he was going to fundamentally transform America as we know it.

What a mess Trump inherits.

Walt

Now your trying to split hairs Paul. (I don't dare ask where you pulled that hair from.)
My previously posted info of an inside job, holds more water than any of your "undisclosed"
birdcage liner.

Paul Emery

What a mess Obama inherited Bill. Two unfunded endless wars, total economic collapse, Real estate crash, etc. they both have something in common.

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery, this is your last sentence

"Officials in Russia have repeatedly denied hacking accusations." And since there were no quotation marks it is your words, right? So you can't even seem to get your own stuff right. Jeeze.

Walt

LOL Paul,, all "O" did was make everything worse. Thanks to "O", we now have ISIS.
Be careful of who you make excuses for.

Don Bessee

Too many identical Paul tootsie rolls in this kitty litter for his own good. Pepto can help you with that PE. ;-)

Paul Emery

George

I don't think you understand how news works with confidential sources. Their stories are corroborated by two other reliable sources before they become news. Thought you knew that. This will sort itself out soon as more Republicans are demanding answers.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/trump-russia-hackers-republicans-229572

Here is the essence of the difference between the FBI and the CIA.

The CIA clearly believes Russia hacked political emails. The FBI is not sure they have criminal evidence to go to court. The CIA is defiantly raising the flag on this,.

"“The FBI briefers think in terms of criminal standards — can we prove this in court,” one of the officials said. “The CIA briefers weigh the preponderance of intelligence and then make judgment calls to help policymakers make informed decisions. High confidence for them means ‘we’re pretty damn sure.’ It doesn’t mean they can prove it in court.”

The FBI is not sold on the idea that Russia had a particular aim in its meddling. “There’s no question that [the Russians’] efforts went one way, but it’s not clear that they have a specific goal or mix of related goals,” said one U.S. official.

Does the differebce nakd sebse to you George?

Paul Emery

Sorry for the typo

"Does the difference make sence to you George?"

Paul Emery

Republicans in NC are bad losers.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/protesters-storm-nc-state-capitol-as-republicans-try-to-strip-power-from-new-democrat-governor/

Protesters storm NC state capitol as Republicans try to strip power from new Democrat governor

Walt

So they are pulling a Harry Reid? LIBS are getting a taste of their own medicine. And you bitch?

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