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03 March 2017

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Paul Emery

Yeah George. Bush seems like kinda nice person compared to what we have now. He is still the worst President in modern history but likely to be surpassed by the ilk we have now.

Yelp for daters-Good one Fish

George, Trump is pushing vouchers as we speak. In your view is that an appropriate use of Federal power and funds? I recall y you being in support of cancelling funding the Department of Education and even shutting down the agency completely.

Don Bessee

WOW, so early in the day and the poor ol' fakenewsman is in high froth. It must be the way the Russian thing boomeranged back on the dems or it could be the news that a fakenewsman, communist, anti-Trump black guy did a bunch of the anti-Semitic bomb threats.

If our poor lil' fakenewsman really believed what he has been shoveling he would have taken Dr. R's bet. ;-)

George Rebane

PaulE 1047am - Yeah, silly me, I'm still in favor of school choice and states doing the nation's schooling. And I'm in favor of shutting down the DoEduc given that they have cost trillions, and for decades have done NOTHING for education save insure that our schools are union guaranteed sinecures for poorly prepared teachers qualified mostly for the ideological indoctrination of our youth. Now I understand that you and other progressives are longtime subscribers to Einstein's definition of insanity.

In sum, if the feds must stay in the education game, then they should implement a policy that gives parents the most choice in how their children are educated.

Now do you understand why the country needs federalism? I don't have a hope of changing any minds, but do hope that you would understand why we don't want to live in the same jurisdiction with crazy people who continue doing dumb things using other people's money.

Scott Obermuller

From what I've read, Trump's voucher plan is only for children in poverty. The money for the voucher plan would come from the current fed program that gives the states extra money to help educate kids below the poverty line. I personally would like to see the Dept of Ed done away with, but if they did the left would cause bloodshed. At least what Trump is proposing causes the same money to follow each child and the parents would have a choice of schools to send their child to. Not perfect, but an improvement. Further, it will tend to remove a tax payer funding source from the left. The current system isn't working and simply throwing money at it won't help.

Walt

Paul is showing his age. Getting long in the tooth. Memory just ain't what it should be.
Bush? "worst President in modern history " Uh,,, NO DICE Oh aged one. Carter and "O" still reign supreme. The real argument is who is worst offender. Some will say " Carter meant well, but was naive.". "O" on the other hand had destruction on his mind from day one, and is still working on that today. So the definition of "worst" is still up for grabs.
My bitch about Carter is his giving away of the Panama canal, and pussed out on the hostage crisis. Just nutless.(unless peanuts for testicals count)

As for "O",,, well,, this isn't over yet. He and his minions are still trying to start a new civil war.

Don Bessee

The illegal immigrant deportation dust up de jour has video of a SOCAL arrest of a guy after he dropped his kid off at school. Heavy emphasis on the kids and no mention that dear old dad had a DUI and was busted for stolen license tags on his car. Poor ol' PE that's your cue to start your pearl clutching and hyperventilating. ;-)

Don Bessee

Since poor ol' PE is already in high froth we should pull this bandaid fast. Details of the State Department sponsored event where Senator Session spoke to an audience that included a bunch of ambassadors are out. Sessions used his campaign funds to pay for his trip so legally he was there as a Senator, no Trump funds were involved.

The good thing about a buzz kill early in the day poor ol' PE is that you have all day to get it back, right? ;-)

fish

Media Which Has Been Decrying Rise of Antisemitic Vandalism and Bomb Threats, Assuming, For No Good Reason, a Trump Supporter Was Behind It, Suddenly Gets Pretty Quiet About It.


Mmmmm......another case of Brad Croul Syndrome......tragic.


#whitegirl


http://ace.mu.nu/archives/368691.php


Paul Emery

All my opinion Walt. Bush is the worst President in modern history. Run this simple test: This country before Bush, this country after Bush. Run that for all Presidents since Wilson and there is no dispute from reasonable thinkers who gets the trophy. Trump has potential for setting new records though. He's off top a roaring start.

Bill Tozer

Don @ 12:14 pm.

You are wasting your time. It don't matter to a closed mind. A favorite quote that nails it:

. "There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance—that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

Here, watch me waste my time. Trying to argue that Senators and Congresspersons talking with the Red Scare diplomats is normal and a standard occurrence for legislators and their committee members. Heck, Sessions met with the Ukraine Ambassador face to face in private the day before "he lied!!". What did the Ukrainians want? What secret deals were hatched? Did they mention sanctions on Russia???

Now CNN has broadcasted an edited question version of Al Frankenfrog quizzing of Sessions, the morning after Yellow Shower hit the late news. Yep, edited it just like the 911 call CBS edited to show Treyon Martin's killer was racist!! The motive uncovered before the evidence should turn room temperature and be looked at, lol.

Suddenly being an Ambassador is equilivent to being a spy...yawn. Talking to an Ambassador is now collusion, treason, and a hostile takeover of the government. Yawn.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/flashback-30-senate-democrats-met-russian-diplomats-advance-obamas-iran-deal/

See, I just wasted my time. Pointing out duplicity is a waste of time. Pointing out mega hypocrisy and facts are wasting my breathe. Pointing out the real threats to our Nation, our Constitution, our way of life, is a total waste of time.

"The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools."
Herbert Spencer

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

re: DB @ 12:14PM

Although I hate to link to Drudge, as everyone has probably seen it, this isn't a bad article:

https://medium.com/theyoungturks/the-basic-formula-for-every-shocking-russia-trump-revelation-e9ae390d9f05#.mxdhhxguh

I truly wish that the Green Libertarians would get unstuck from this Russia business as it's not only ridiculous, but it has the potential for causing unneeded danger in international politics.

You'd think that there would be plenty argue about with any upcoming changes in the ACA, the huge amounts of money to be spent by the new administration on the military/infrastructure/etc., alterations in tax code, and the like.

Instead we are treated with the ongoing furor about LGBTQLMNOP bathrooms, pussy hats, some isolated ICE cases, and the Putin fetish. The political discharge from the Left is starting to sound like an R.A. Lafferty novel.

Don Bessee

Here's one just for you Walt, Secretary Zinke the former navy seal who was just confirmed for interior reversed 0's last minute ban on regular ammunition on federal lands.
Not bad for his first day on the job. ;-)

Bill Tozer

The biggest threat to the US is the Democrat Party. Way more than Russia. Any nuke would happen in Ukraine or the Middle East, far, far, far away.

But, what the Dems are trying to do to our Constitutional Republic is the real threat. Lenin's playbook.

Russ


How millions of kids are being shaped by know-it-all voice assistants

Well that is headline which raises an interesting question. "Alexa tell us about anthropogenic global warming" Love to tell you her answer, but our Alexa is in the Amazon shop getting her AI brain adjusted, she could turn things on but refused to turn them off. We had to pull the power plug to turn her off.

Back to the question. Oh My, AI driven devices give out factual intelligence, not emotional intelligence.

“These devices don’t have emotional intelligence,” said Allison Druin, a University of Maryland professor who studies how children use technology. “They have factual intelligence.”

Think of all the children who will learn that climate change and global warming are not emotional intelligence, but factual intelligence. Or, heaven forbid, we learn that anthropogenic global warming is factual intelligence and that anthropogenic skepticism is emotional intelligence.

I am looking forward to Alexa's return on Saturday so we can have a conversation about climate change. What does her AI brain think about anthropogenic climate change? Stay Tuned.

Don Bessee

Just heard another detail on poor ol' PE's illegal alien heroine, when imegre showed up to take away the dad and brother they found a gun in the house. Possession of a firearm by an illegal is its own special felony. Poor ol' PE's heroine told ICE she had it for home defense and claimed she was one of 0's dreamers. When they went back and checked and found out she was not they issued a warrant that was acted on.

So now that we find out she had a gun charge do you still hold her up as a shining light of the illegal community Mr anti 2nd amendment? That's you poor ol' PE. ;-)

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 03 March 2017 at 12:42 PM


No question Bush is going to win any awards for presidential greatness......cough....cough...... Medicare Part D.....cough....cough...... unecessary war.


I see again however that President "Hope n Change" merits no specific mention.


Interesting.

Walt

I missed the news on that ban. Good riddance nonetheless.

Don Bessee

Walt @ 103, it was one of the thousands of screw you's from 0 after madam liar liar pantsuits on fire lost. That one literally happened on his last day. ;-)

Paul Emery


Bill writes:

"The biggest threat to the US is the Democrat Party. Way more than Russia."

You crack me up Bill. Your 12:54 is hilarious. You write a lot of funny things but I doubt you can top this. Thanks for the laughs. This one sill follow you around.

Paul Emery

I thought you believed in the right to bear arms Don. Oh yeah. How about a link for your 12:57.

Don Bessee

The 2nd amendment is for US citizens poor ol' PE, not illegal aliens who are criminals. So are you saying a gun crime is ok because its a politically correct illegal alien issue? ;-)

Paul Emery

I was just checking out your principles Don. To you it's not a human right just and American one and doesn't apply to someone who has been a resident of this country since the age of 7.

fish

The tolerant and respectful left.....at it again!


Middlebury College professor injured by protesters as she escorted controversial speaker


Hey Paul did the Trump administration pay these guys to execute the triple behind the back bank shot protest like in Berkeley?

http://www.addisonindependent.com/201703middlebury-college-professor-injured-protesters-she-escorted-controversial-speaker

Paul Emery

Don't know Fish. I'll check it out when I have time.

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 03 March 2017 at 01:58 PM


Was wondering if anything had come of the first accusation? That the Berkeley "protestors" were Trump funded....I think that was what you implied here shortly after the event?

Paul Emery

That's still spinning around out there Fish. I'll give you an update if I hear of one.

No info on Trumps involvement in your 1:46 post.

Todd Juvinall

I heard Hillary and Obama have teamed up to sell weapons to Surinam and its insurgents. Anyone else?

Paul Emery

Do you have any documentation Todd? Links?

Todd Juvinall

And Chick Schumer is a stock holder in a sex toy company. You cannot make this stuff up.

Don Bessee

NO poor ol' PE, just because an illegal avoided deportation under 0 means nothing as far as being a citizen with full rights under the constitution you silly ol' pollhead.

Let me amend that, an illegal who committed a gun felony. More situational ethics from that good ol' democrat PE. :-)

Don Bessee

STOP THE PRESES! Nancy 'the botox queen' Pelosi is caught lying about Russian contacts! Today she said she NEVER met with the current Russian ambassador. OOOOOOPSIE! A photo emerged with her sitting across the table from the Russian ambassador.

What did she conspire about in that meeting? What was the personal gain for her husbands company? How long until she resigns?

Recall! Resign! Draw and quartering! ;-)

Walt

Don..You missed the "proof" that Paul will demand,, but not read. Here ya' go.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/03/trump-slams-pelosi-schumer-as-russia-meeting-pics-emerge.html

Don Bessee

Its high time that poor ol' PE expand his horizons and learned how to google. Living on huffpo and politico fakenews has crippled his dialogue and thought processes. ;-)

Paul Emery

What are you trying to prove Walt?

George Rebane

For the casual reader I draw your attention to the view of the Constitution, citizen's rights, and the rights of illegal aliens (especially those fugitives who have successfully avoided the law for a long time) held by our liberal commenters. Their own words and supportive logic say it all. If you glossed over their arguments, then I submit you may well not understand the magnitude of the problem our country is facing.

Don Bessee

Willful ignorance @ 339 poor ol' PE.

Poor ol' PE's heroine, the gun toting, felony committing, illegal alien is going to be deported without hearing because of her status. ;-)

Todd Juvinall

The left does not want their gardeners and cooks and servants to be deported. Then they would have to do all the legal paperwork and pay minimum wages and taxes. That is why Paul E and his ilk are so against the Trump plans.

Walt

Now you play stupid Paul? Forget your 2:35 already?
More times than I care to even count you "demand" some link to what someone says, and more times than not someone else has already provided said info., You ignore it, and continue on your yap fest.
Hell... I have posted plenty of facts to make my point in the past, yet somewhere down the line, you pipe up and have ignored said "evidence".
That "evidence" will show up soon enough. Your good at "forgetting".

Paul Emery

God Bless America for sending off a young woman to a strange land who was doing the best she could to become educated and live a worthwhile life. Those of you into Christianity can you show me the words of Jesus that would have justified this? . This was pure and simple retaliation for speaking out. Not a golden moment in the great American experiment.

"A 22-year-old woman who came to the United States from Argentina as a 7-year-old child and was allowed to remain in the country under an Obama-era program was detained by immigration authorities after speaking at a news conference in Mississippi about her fears of being deported, her lawyer said on Thursday.

The woman, Daniela Vargas, was picked up on Wednesday when the car she was riding in was pulled over by officers shortly after leaving the news conference at City Hall in Jackson, Miss., the lawyer, Abigail Peterson, said in a telephone interview."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/02/us/immigrant-daca-detained.html

Bill Tozer

The Democrat Party is the greatest threat to the Constitution. There is no doubt about it.

Bill Tozer

If Nancy the Botox Queen met with the Russian President and then LIED about it, she should resign. She is a threat to democracy.

George Rebane

PaulE 421pm - Excellent! Is there a suggestion of an immigration policy emerging from your comment? Or do you just suggest that law enforcement becomes a discretionary pursuit based on the details of each anecdotal case, or perhaps something else ...? Any extension in your thinking as to what subsequent behaviors this will abet and solicit?

Walt

Old news Paul.. We already know. Illegal is illegal. She might still be here if she didn't play to the cameras. "Look at ME! I'm an illegal". It's going to be fun to watch when the next illegals go on parade waiving MEX flags down some Blvd in SoCal. ICE might have the buses around the corner of the next block. That might put a swift end to that "Make Ca. Mexico" crap.

Paul Emery

No George. I do do suggest that there are greater laws than those we stumble around with and they do have to do with our spiritual values. I am questioning what in the Christian path justifies treating this young woman in that manner. Might I ask show me one lesson from Jesus that shows that decision . Are we not all human beings on this planet and what kind of God would prefer one over the other enough to sanctify that action?

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 03 March 2017 at 04:21 PM


We can argue the "why" of her deportation as long as you like Paul but it's rather hypocritical to raise any religious aspects surrounding this incident.

We are routinely reminded by the left that religion has no place in the establishment or implementation of the laws under a secular government.

Don Bessee

Poor ol' PE proves my 332 @ 421. Just parroting the party line with no intellectual engagement. Willfully ignoring that she committed a gun felony and is illegal as well massively stupid for how she handled this. She should be deported just for being that stupid on top of the rest. Spitting in the face of la migre might have seemed priceless to the illegal snowflake but she just found out there is a price for being a criminal. ;-)

Paul Emery

Might I quote Woddy Guthrie at this time

"As through this life I ramble I meet some funny men
Some rob you with a six gun and some with a fountain pen
As through this live I ramble
As through this life I roam
I've never seen an outlaw drive a family from their home

Granted "Outlaw" is very romanticized but the the point is clear

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 03 March 2017 at 04:42 PM

Granted "Outlaw" is very romanticized but the the point is clear


???

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery | 03 March 2017 at 04:37 PM

What is the druid treatise on this? Inquiring minds want to know. Is there a Druid bible?

Bill Tozer

The girl violated the term of her being here. Wait, did not the courts block the amnesty for 700,000 dreamers because of it was an unconstitutional act by POTUS Obama? Balance of powers and all that stuff.
The Democrat Party is the greatest threat to our Constitutional Republic.

Don Bessee

PE @ 437- That's disgusting that a druid thinks he can lecture a Christian about their values he notoriously rejects. You are just projecting Shame, shame, shame on you good ol' PE.

Lets get ahead of poor ol' PE's next politically correct hero from huffpo. Huffpo is highlighting the case of a transgender illegal who has been deported 4 times as their latest sob story. The criminal illegal was picked up at a courthouse seeking a protective order on his boyfriend. That's all you get from huffpo.

Yet on the other reports its noted the criminal illegal confessed to money order fraud in Jan. after getting caught with his boyfriend breaking into mail drops, a federal felony. ;-)

Walt

In my readings of the Druids, they didn't take kindly to strangers. Then again their were held in high esteem. They were sacrificed to their GODS. Paul may want to change religions for next week.

Paul Emery

Nothing on a google for Daniela Vargas that shows this Don. Google her name and tell me what you find.

to make it easy here's the link

https://www.google.com/search?q=Daniela+Vargas&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

fish

Sure do wish "jon" would come back and remind us how great uncontrolled immigration from Shitholeistan was going to be for Europe and Scandinavia.


There's been a complaint about my first report from Sweden.

A reader is very angry because I suggested the child raped by a 45-year-old migrant (posing as an unaccompanied minor) was 14.
In fact, he was 12.

This is the state of liberalism today. So determined to prove I am wrong, my observations erroneous, the stories I have on tape inaccurate, that it has lost all sight of the raped migrant child crumpled in the corner.

Similarly, the 'we know better brigade' are so puffed up with smug self-importance as they point out Trump got his dates confused over the troubles in Sweden, they can’t see past their own chest to the riots in Rinkeby.

Where cars were set alight, shops looted and shopkeepers beaten while youths went on the rampage.
I asked Mattias Karlsson, leader of the Swedish Democrats - currently leading in the polls - why other politicians refuse to acknowledge the problems right in front of their eyes.

He explained that to accept there is a problem would mean accepting nearly 80 years of liberal thinking was wrong. That multiculturalism doesn't work, that mass immigration does not lead to integration, that Sweden has made a big mistake.

A stranger came up to me in a coffee shop to say much the same thing. She had read my first report. She implored me to shout louder.

She said Sweden cannot go on pretending it is some kind of utopia. That it is on a path to fail, that her friends fear Sweden is being overwhelmed.

The fears are real. The areas migrants inhabit have become sink suburbs, riddled with no-go zones, even for the police, where hand-grenade attacks are the accepted norm, women stay indoors, and the ambulances and fire engines need police escorts. God help any good people forced to live here.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4276942/Swedish-town-migrants-laugh-laws-despise.html#ixzz4aJeE534l

Walt

Paul never answered my question. What would HE do? Remember Paul? You wake up to find an illegal entry into your abode and find your couch occupied by an uninvited "guest".
Your fridge empty, your booze gone, and now getting hit up for money.
You going to call the cops to have that person "deported" off your property?
Let's all hear it.

Bill Tozer

There are 850,000 illegals who broke into our country that have already been ordered deported in a court of law. They are still here. Then there are the criminals who not only broke into our country, they committed criminal acts while here now sitting in jails and prisons. That is the low hanging fruit.


Until Congress comes up with a law affecting amnesty for Dreamers, they are in our country without permission.

Funny, immigration lawyers are like DUI lawyers. Waste of money unless there are extenuating circumstances. The Consultants are telling illegals that unless you have a current valid visa, green card, or work permit, or a special category, no can help you. You will be deported.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1037782106355826/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1037159116418125/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1033184446815592/?type=3&theater


Don Bessee

Poor ol' PE is showing signs of wear @ 501 and confirming my 332. Poor ol' PE has been passed by technologically . My home page news feeds had 3 versions of my 450. That's why you always come up a day late and a dollar short fakenewsman. I probably get more new feeds than KVMR. ;-)

Paul Emery

Did you follow my link Don and what did you find ?

Bill Tozer

Nice to see Paul struggle to take the moral highground. The defense of last resort and trump card. Who can argue with that? Certainly not the taxpayers!

This reminds me of welfare reform. No benefits for illegals. Then the press rushed out and found a 80 year old blind Polish woman who would starve to death if we cut off her food stamps! Hmmm. Here 30 years and never once applied for legal status. 30 years here and never lifted a finger to come out of the shadows....until her benefits were threatened.. Have we no heart?

https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913.80726.51560645913/10154498782245914/?type=3&theater

Liberal logic. The NYT wrote a piece about Sessions (of course!) and quoted fellow Armed Service Committee member Senator Claire McC. She said she has been on the committee for 10 years and never met with the Russian Ambassador. Then two tweets surfaced over two different time periods of Claire boasting about meeting with the Russian Ambassador.
So, what does the NYT do?? Print the evidence that Claire lied to the American people? No. The NYT reprinted the article with....drumroll please.....with no reference to Claire's original comments, lol. Too funny. Liberals are the biggest threat to democracy.

Poor Claire is upset. This year the DNC will not automatically anoint her and now she might.....gasp!.....might have to face a primary challenger. Good gawd, you mean she might have to campaign in the primary? But, but, but...the DNC is supposed to protect her. Foul! The game is supposed to be rigged. What the heck is going on!!

The Democrat Party is our biggest threat to democracy.

Don Bessee

Why would I poor ol' PE? I had just read 3 stories on it, huffpo, fox and a news service from my live wires.

I talked to my tress and hill about your situation, they said you are screwed fakenewsman. Hey look at it this way PE, you are only fake news not very fake news. ;-)

Bill Tozer

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/806600662823491/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1033842916749745/?type=3&theater

SCOTUS nomination hearings begin March 20th.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1033751236758913/?type=3&theater

Scott Obermuller

Paul at 4:37 - First you claim you're a libertarian. (oh, I know - a 'green' one) and now you propose we have our country become a theocracy.
Too much.

Don Bessee

Scott- That may have been some poor ol' pollhead PE joshing going on there. ;-)

Bill Tozer

Have we no heart?

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/uh-oh-schumer-pulled-visa-strings-muslim-athlete-now-facing-child-sex-abuse-charges/

Bill Tozer

Nearly one-third of all Americans – and even more Republicans - believe the United States would be better off or not impacted if California became a separate country.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_mar3

Bill Tozer

This describes Punchy's MO to a tee. Exactamundo. Eerily reminiscent of Golden Shower.

https://medium.com/theyoungturks/the-basic-formula-for-every-shocking-russia-trump-revelation-e9ae390d9f05#.r1itnvhfi

Being a Green Libertarian means never admitting you were wrong, always jumping to conclusions based on innuendo and, of course, having all things non pot related blow up in your face.
Paul, be a dear and wipe those glistening pearl droplets off the corners of your mouth.

Walt

It's Friday night, and Paul's had it rough. Here is one to brighten his night.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/03/judge-helps-criminal-illegal-alien-escape-ice-officers/

I wonder if he was the judge's gardner? Whatever it is, that's one hell of a "get out of jail free" card.

Scott Obermuller

Once again, California leads the way.
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/03/02/usc-shuts-scheduled-event-free-speech-advocate-dave-rubin/
"Administrators told the event’s organizers that Rubin’s controversial history “may present security issues” and that two armed guards “trained in dealing with potential disruptions or protests” would be required in order for the event to proceed."
Got that? If you want to express your conservative views, you have to pay for protection from leftist thugs.
Please, Trump. Pull all fed money from the UC system now.
Why does my tax money have to support fascism?

Scott Obermuller

Walt at 6:49 - the judge was just following the voice of God as per Paul's suggestion.

Don Bessee

Speaking of sins of omission; How come our own KVMR democrat, poor ol' PE, comrade Bernie, Schumer and the queen of botox have all spectacularly failed to condemn the jewish phone threat guy?

Could it be a PC thing? A black, jew hating, communist, fakenewsman who supported comrade bernnie seems to have accrued enough socialist warrior points to get a pass.

Why, why, why PE? ;-)

Bill Tozer

Ah, the mysterious motive strikes again.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/02/denver-suspect-says-killed-guard-pleasure-allah-cbs-says-motive-still-unclear/

Don @ 7:12 pm.
Ask Bernie any question and the answer is the only one he knows: "More government."

Must be rough to be a Green Libertarian with all those conflicting principles and precepts trying to cohabitate in the same space between one's ears. Yes or no, Don, yes or no! :)

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1037782759689094/?type=3&theater


Scott Obermuller

It can't get any better than this! Please California - make this happen.
Lead the way!
http://www.latimes.com/business/lazarus/la-fi-lazarus-california-single-payer-healthcare-20170303-story.html
Money quote - 'Single-payer isn’t socialized medicine,” Kuehl said. “It has nothing to do with hospitals and doctors. It’s purely a form of insurance. But we didn’t communicate that as well as we could have.” '
She's got it. Single payer has nothing to do with doctors and hospitals.
That's like saying car insurance has nothing to do with cars.
Ms Kuehl might also explain how California legislative members and other 'high' officials will be covered under this great new plan.
Free medical for everyone! Open the borders as the Bible instructs us!
C'mon - where's our leftista brethern on all of this?
I thought they'd be all for it. Strange.

Scott Obermuller

One more before bed time.
http://takimag.com/article/ghost_inside_your_haunted_head_david_cole/print#axzz4aKDShVuA
Stick with it - there is a California-only story line. I'm waiting for the leftistas to say it ain't so. Ah, but it is.
OK, I'll admit I'm gloating. I do miss the warmer California weather.
I do not miss the insanity.

Bill Tozer

Oh Scott. I get notifications from a Facebook page called Democrats Now! or Make Democrats Great Again, or something like that. Everytime the immigration topic comes up, the page blasts Christians. Shame on you Christians, eating your fancy Thanksgiving dinners celebrating the genocide of people of color with your white family in your warm homes while this is going on! You hypocrites, you heartless racist blah, blah, blah.

The "this is going on" is usually the heart breaking picture of the Syrian boy washing ashore on the Greek rocks. Boy, that one picture was justification to lose an entire continent to those who feel morally and righteously superior to their gracious hosts, but I digress.

Then the comments follow all stating Christians are worse than terrorists, need to be killed, white people suck, and are phonies....and racists. The Bible was written by old white men so add sexist and misogynistic. It gets worse when La Raza (The Race) joins in and brags about taking back the land the White Imperialists stole from Meeh-he-co, that land being much greater in size than CA, Texas, and the entire Southwest. Odd. Then BLM jumps in on the hate the Clingers and of course, check your frigging White Privelge at the door. Hmmm. Wonder what a white atheist thinks reading the comments from the Party of the Moral High Ground.

Well, I had enough reading this week after week. I never blocked the site because it was a good insight to what PE would be throwing at us Deplorables later that day or the next morning. So, when the
Y ran that picture of the Syrian boy AGAIN today with quote word for word of Paul's reciting Scripture and the usual "Shame on you, you call yourselves Christians, you hyprocrites!, .....word for word....well, I commented under the picture that it was
Is better finding a dead Muslim boy washing up on the shore than a finding a live one.

My, my. I think I best block that site. Are they ever up in arms. :)

George Rebane

PaulE 437pm - Paul, you of all people are asking why Americans don't cite Jesus to justify violating laws in a land that has outlawed all public expression or reference to Jesus. Remember, you socialists have thrown out God and replaced it with one size fits all laws and regulations. And now when that doesn't fit your agenda, you then scuttle back to God?! Pleeez! How many sides of the street do you want to play on?

Bill Tozer

http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/03/obama-state-department-set-up-russian-ambassador-meeting-with-sessions-at-rnc/

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

re: GR @ 10:16PM

I wouldn't sweat it too much, you are basically just playing Whack-a-Mole and trolls can always strike faster than a reasonable riposte can be put together. Forums lend themselves to that kind of cosmic microwave background of nonsense.

I was thinking of a good idea for a current events book this morning. Looking at things like (notice the date):

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/01/19/2017-01487/providing-an-order-of-succession-within-the-department-of-justice

It would be interesting to see a full list of the landmines left by the Obama administration for the following one and to compare that to historical examples.

Todd Juvinall

My response to Terry Lamphier's column. He is getting his ass kicked by a few folks.

He certainly has the right to posit his opinions here but is it smart? Probably not. But his points are certainly easy to refute and some have responded to ensure that his points don't go unchallenged. Trump may be aggressive and tough to the weak-kneed and simple minded but that is a leadership quality. I like a man that fights back against the liars. And the democrats are the liars. Sure Trump is not perfect but he sure is showing he stands for something and it is all about America and the forgotten man and woman. The left has decided they want a country of groups and they pit them against each other. If we are to be a strong and lasting nation the left has to get onboard the PATRIOT TRAIN and swear allegiance to America. Not some other culture or country. America first is what we long for. We are tired of the Kapernicks and Pelosi's denigrating fellow Americans. I would rather they shut up than spew their hatred. California is a perfect example of what the difference between a democrat run government and a republican run government means. Mr Lamphier has it all backwards as far as I can tell and I, as a armchair quarterback disagree with all his conclusions.

Bill Tozer

Scenes. Yes, it is Whack-A-Mole.

Paul may take some comfort in this. Who knows? Too early to tell, but the signs point to obeying the existing law and making a humanitarian exception for the estimated 700,000 Dreamers. A blanket amnesty for 4 million illegals is out of the question today. Been there, done that. Time will tell.
Like a kid bringing home a cute puppy or kitten and promising with all their little hearts they will take care of it, the promises ring hallow in short order. We were promised before border security/control if we pass amnesty (Reagen's amnesty for 2.3? million illegals in our country) and then taking care of border control never happened. Fool me once....
Let's talk more AFTER we establish we are indeed a sovereign nation. Border control before "reform".

"The Trump order specifically excluded Dreamers—illegals brought here as children—from threat of deportation, effectively continuing Obama's 2012 DACA exception. That's widely popular: Americans don't like punishing children for the sins of their parents."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/facts-on-the-ground-moving-immigration-in-trumps-direction/article/2616341

Bill Tozer

Todd @ 9:02 am

Yes, nobody wants to throttle down Mr. Lampier's right to say what he pleases. No problem in the least. Perhaps in the current irrational climate of PETSD here in the Darkest Deep Blue jungles of California, it might be the absolute perfect timing for Mr. Lampier to speak his mind and be a spokesperson for the Alt-Leftistas. With all the meltdown going on, a window of opportunity has open for Terry.

With the niceties aside, let's look at Mr. Lampier's words:

"If you can’t trust government, science, intelligence agencies, the media, institutions of higher learning … even your own senses when the President directly contradicts himself, where do you go?"

Well, unless one is just coming out of a long deep coma, I would say the mistrust of government, science, Intel agencies, the media, and institutions of higher learning is a quite rational conclusion based on a mountain of evidence gleamed from recent events.

Walt

I will believe Trump before I take the word of an "O" flunky.
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/04/trump-accuses-obama-of-wire-tapping-during-general-election.html
"O" and Co. was and still is corrupt to the core, despite his claims of "not a smidgen of corruption".
This on top of what has come out in the last few days. LIBS on camera stating "I never spoke or met a Russian" UNTIL,, the pics show up. Then the excuses fly.

Don Bessee

Just saw a report that one of 0's other staffers tweeted a caution to the media after the first response to the Presidents tweet. Former 0 staffer John Favreau said;

"I'd be careful about reporting that Obama said there was no wiretapping. Statement just said that neither he nor WH ordered it."

So that just leaves the DOJ, FBI, CIA and NSA friends of 0. ;-)

Walt

Loos like that "Latino" judge just might wind up in front of another judge.
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/03/04/doj-investigates-oregon-judge-allegedly-helping-illegal-immigrant-flee-ice-agents/

Funny,, where have we seen this before? Recall the judge with ties to radical Mexicans that Trump wanted recused? Trump may have been onto something.

Russ

We need a special prosecutor, Trump phone hacked by Obama Government Hackers:

This scandal cries out for aggressive investigation. Let’s see the initial FISA application, and the court order denying it. Then let’s see the second application, and the order that approved it. Let’s put the Obama administration officials who signed the applications under oath, and find out who put them up to it. Let’s find out what judges denied the first application, and what judges granted the second one. Let’s get the details on the Obama administration’s spying. Did they tap the Trump campaign’s telephones? If so, which lines? Did they hack into the Trump campaign’s servers? If so, which ones?

Obviously, as President Trump said, the Obama administration learned nothing of significance from its spying on the Trump campaign. But it now appears that the election of 2016 may have been hacked after all, in a far more meaningful way than an intrusion into Debbie Wasserman-Schultz’s email account. It may have been hacked by the Obama administration. We need to find out what happened. Congress should give top priority to this investigation.

Yes indeed Congress needs to get right on this one, the shoe is on the other foot.

Walt

Ol' Lamphier is a little peeved no one is on his side. He's attacking anyone he can find info on, over at his Letter to the editor diatribe. He's even claiming slander on some.
What a piece of work....

Don Bessee

He plead guilty in a plea deal and resigned from the GV council. That's not complicated. ;-)

Don Bessee

Wow, that's a whole lot of cricket corps. Here is some troll chow for our poor ol' pollhead PE; AP reports its newest poll shows 71% say America is loosing its identity. ;-)

Bill Tozer

Repeat offender with loaded handgun arrested, cops searching for where he got the ammo.

https://unclesamsmisguidedchildren.com/baltimore-police-arrest-man-loaded-handgun-er-sort/

:)

Bill Tozer

".Trump’s ‘evidence’ for Obama wiretap claims relies on sketchy, anonymously sourced reports"---WaPo.

Based on sketchy, anonymously sourced reports as well?

"Franken: 'We don't know what the Russians have on Donald Trump"---ABC News

Walt

Now Nancy P. is blaming "the media" on the LIB loss. Man.. is SHE losing it.

Don Bessee

Hey Walt, that could be a good thing if team lefty starts feuding with the press too. ;-)

Bill Tozer

12:14
Losing it? She never had it. Blame the media for hyping that awful horrible Trump with a quarter billion of free air time during the primaries so Hillary could stomp him in the general? You remember the "all Trump all the time" coverage leading up to the conventions, don't ya? Nobody else could any coverage except the one and only Citizen Donald J. Trump. They gave Trump all the oxygen in the room. Yep, Wikileaks revealed the strategy as Gregory correctly pointed out.

Losers blame, winners don't. Yep, another Lib Establishment Donor Class Consultant driven plot that blew up in their faces....again, lol. The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight tried the recount, tried getting the Trump electors to defect, blame the Red Scare, blamed the FBI, blamed O for not campaigning hard enough, and now blame their Media, a wing of the DNC??? I love it when they eat their own.

Never get tired of winning.

Next thing you know they will be blaming the cops.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/liberal-democrat-running-congress-caught-driving-stolen-van-resisting-arrest-blames-dirty-cops/

Bill Tozer

12:24

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/807172539432970/?type=3&theater

Walt

My bad.... I didn't provide proof for Paul.(we know how he gets)
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/03/05/pelosi-think-press-accomplices-undermining-election/

Don Bessee

The BBC caught the Swedish Minister of Integration in a big fat fakenews lie. When the issue of the rape epidemic ins Sweden came up she said the number of rapes were going down, going down, going down!

The problem is her governments statistics show rapes are up 16%. ;-)

fish

OH NOES.....MORE NARRATIVE FAILURE!!!


Headstones toppled at Brooklyn Jewish cemetery were from negelct not vandalism, NYPD says



That bastard Trump got to them...the media....made em change the story......it just had to be anti-Semitic vandalism!


http://www.jta.org/2017/03/05/news-opinion/united-states/headstones-toppled-at-brooklyn-jewish-cemetery

Don Bessee

Addendum to 223- The minister has issued a formal apology. ;-)

Don Bessee

Word to the fakenewsman @ 231. ;-)

Scott Obermuller

It's happened again.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445528/charles-murray-middlebury-college-speech-protests-shouted-down-academic-freedom
Left wing goons shut down free speech and physically attack those they don't like.
Where, oh where are the officials sworn to uphold the peace?
No where in view apparently.
Please tell me again why our taxes are used to employ them?

BradC

Trumpercare wants to raise your rates 22% . Rejoice!

Older Americans could have to pay more. Enrollees in their 50s and early 60s benefited from Obamacare because insurers could only charge them three times more than younger policy holders. The bill would widen that band to five-to-one.
That would mean that adults ages 60 to 64 would see their annual premiums soar 22%, or nearly $3,200, to nearly $18,000, according to a study by the Milliman actuarial firm on behalf of the AARP Public Policy Institute. Those in their 50s would be hit with a 13% increase, or just over $1,500, and pay an annual premium of $12,800.
Also, the GOP bill doesn't provide them as generous tax credits as Obamacare. A 60-year-old making $40,000 would get only $4,000 from the Republican plan, instead of an average subsidy of $6,750 from the Affordable Care Act, according the Kaiser study.

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