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23 June 2017

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Paul Emery

GEorge
Who do you think Estonians would prefer, Democrats or Russians. Specifically Putin or Obama

Bill Tozer

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1113395288794507/?type=3&theater

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Don Bessee

Somebody kick the jukebox @ 1149, its playing the same song over and over. ;-)

George Rebane

PaulE 1149am - Your question is ambiguous and doesn't seem to be germane to this topic - "prefer" to do what??

Bill Tozer

Punchy @ 11:49.
Paul, who is the bigger threat to our Constitution and civil liberties? Dems or Russia? That is the question posed, not what some Slavic country prefers. Oh what you think they prefer. Their vote don't count on the question posed and they don't have a say on the matter on this topic. Neither do I wish to waste time speculating which one The Republic of Congo prefers. Who poses the greater threat to our individual liberties and rights?

BTW, the word 'slave' comes from the root of Slavic. After centuries of being carried off as slaves all across the continent, one would assume they just want to left alone.

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Walt

Moved upon request.
Well my good Doc, I submit this.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/22/pamela-geller-the-coming-civil-war/

The radial domestic enemy may be a bigger danger, if not a close second.
"Political violence became an essential and successful means of leftist warfare in the 60’s, the decade of destruction. The success of the violent “student rebellion” in 1964 and the so-called Free Speech Movement has set the table for the left’s warmongering and treason. It was clear from the outset that the “student revolution” violently ushered in at Berkeley in the mid-sixties would come to this. The left is evil, and they mean to destroy our way of life, our freedom and us. It took decades to norm their anti-Americanism, their hatred of freedom and individual rights, but they have reached their tipping point. And the long beaten and battered among us have had it."

Paul has yet to denounce his ANTIFA friends.

Todd Juvinall

Very good observations here GeorgeR. I too have been doing my best since I was elected in 1984 to alert people about the growth of overnment and the siminishment of our rights. But the left while crying about their "rights" is unwilling to discuss anything rationally. They are total hypocrites on most issues. Tucker Carlson has them on all the time and we get to see how loony they are. They truly are all a producy of George Orwell's writings.

Don Bessee

In the warped world of the po' ol' fakenewsman Dr. R is a tool of the Russians for failing to slavishly agree with all of the party parrot points. The absolute proof is Dr's promotion of the Russian Spectacular at Summer Fest. ;-)

George Rebane

BillT 1224pm - Your overall point is spot on Mr Tozer, however there is one correction which a native Estonian cannot let pass. Estonia and Estonians are NOT SLAVIC. In fact the Slavs have been the millennial enemies of Estonians with the Russian slavs having conquered us and kept us in slavery for centuries; and the Russian slavs today threaten to return to their historical role. Estonians are the Finno-Ugric (originally from outer Mongolia) branch of northern Europe's viking hordes - Estonian vikings maurauded the rivers of today's Russia down to the Black Sea and Constantinople (now Istanbul), and through the Baltic out to the ocean to the Pillars of Hercules (now Gibraltar). The three Finno-Ugric peoples of Europe are the Finns, Estonians, and Hungarians. Hope that puts the matter to rest ;-)

Bill Tozer

Sure, Doc, whatever floats your boat. :)
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MEA CULPA PAUL EMERY!!!!
I, too, displayed a gross failure of reading comprehension. I was wrong. Flat wrong and cop to it. The post is titled "Democrats or Russians-which to FEAR most". It was that word FEAR moi overlooked. I read the white on the heading instead of the black. Ok, which do I FEAR most??

Well, it would be safe to assume (assume-makes an ASS out of U and ME)...er...I assume you fear Russia big time. Scared shitless. Feet don't fail me now. Can't say if your FEAR Russia more than Trump, but that is off topic. But, I could be wrong about you fearing Russia. The operative word is fear, not trust.
I feared the USSR, not so much Russia. Like, are they doing to flood the Fula Gap with 200,000 troops and rush into Germany? Then what? Heck, their GDP is way less than California's and about the same as Italy last time I looked. They have nukes, but so does India.

I do not recall Russians following, harassing, threatening the delegates to the electoral college, nor camping out in their driveways and harassing their children waiting for the school bus in an attempt to overturn the results of a democratically elected President-elect. I don't recall Russia doing anything close to shutting down free speech or the right to association on US soil like the Left is doing as I write this. And I have not even begun to scratch the surface. I live in fear. I fear wearing my Make America Great Again ballcap outside my immediate area for personal safety reasons. I fear an ever intrusive Big Brother Government pushing its nose into every aspect of my life and telling me what to say, do, and think. I fear the shredding of the Constitution and borders and placing our soldiers under a unelected UN official. I fear we are heading towards a European style EU where citizens of Great Britain are told they cannot fish off their own coasts but the Portuguese can fish there....all directives from faceless unelected bureaucrats in another country.

I fear loss of sovereignty. I fear everything the Dems are striving to accomplish. When the Lefties equal nationalism with fascism, patriotism with racism, I have much to fear the direction this country is headed. Russia is lower on the list than a threat from ISIS, Iran, and lower on the list of the internationalists, Marxists, Socialists, and America haters that comprise the coalition that make up the Democrat Party. My fears are based on what is a clear and present danger, a reasonable conclusion reached on the Liberal and Progressives clearly state goals and current multiple actions, great and small.

You fears, Punchy are the other FEARS: F**k Everything And Run and False Evidence Appearing Real

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https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/873124436171113/?type=3&theater

Lest I be remiss, it's Great Britian's Indepence Day! One year ago today, Brexit! Happy Indepenence Day, so limeys.

Bill Tozer

Dr. Rebane: yeah, and Brexit technically was yesterday if you factor in the time zones. Or is it tomorrow? Yawn. Mea Culpa to you as well, sir. I always get those persons, places, and things confused. Like, is The Hague in The Netherlands or Denmark? Is Budapest the capital of a Rumania or Hungry? It gets confusing. A Turkman is not a Turk, see what I mean. Ok, tell me again. Estonia is the capital of which European country? Bohemia? :)

Since I need to conclude with this being on topic (hate to be called a two faced hypocrite after admonishing The Punch Drunk One), I will give the reader another acronym for fear: False Emotions Appearing Real. Hunker down and exercise your 2nd Amendment rights, Punchy. The Deplorables are coming and they know when you have been naughty and when you have been nice.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

re: Walt @ 12:26

which leads to this article:

https://pjmedia.com/spengler/2017/06/16/the-lawyers-civil-war/

Which wasn't bad. thanks.

Todd Juvinall

Looks like Trump signed the new VA legislation today. Keeping those promises.

Don Bessee

Here is one to send the po' ol' pollhead off to the woods to bang rocks. Just saw a new poll that had 73% of respondents saying the whole Russia thing is a distraction with 64% saying it is hurting the Country. Keep banging that party parrot drum, people are starting to hate you for it. ;-)

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

and the beat goes on.

https://twitter.com/DRUDGE_REPORT/status/878293607081328640

Don Bessee

The CA legislature incredibly had moment of sanity and said NO to universal socialist medicine. The hot temps must have vaporized their hash oil. Boy did we dodge bullet on another BHO explosion. Love those firemen! ;-)

Paul Emery

Link Don?

Scott Obermuller

I know this isn't quite on subject and maybe there is a thread some where else.
Our navy vessels can not detect an incoming CONTAINER SHIP?
Why aren't ALL top brass in the navy on a hot seat right now explaining this FUBAR?
If heads don't roll (publicly) what is the point of a NAVY?
Clean the swamp.

Walt

Damn Paul, do a little digging of your own. Try the Sac bee.
And you claim to be a newsman? When does Art Bell take your spot?

Paul Emery

Walt

I provide links to all polling's I offer. It's a simple courtesy.

Paul Emery

My request was for a link to Dons alleged polls at 4:40. Didn't know you believed in polls Don.

Don Bessee

You don't seem to know anything ya po' ol' fakenewsman. ;-)

Bill Tozer

Originally pulbished @ 4:48 pm

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-assembly-speaker-calls-single-payer-1498261105-htmlstory.html

Bill Tozer

Punchy @ 8:00 pm

Published @ 4:47 pm
http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article157974029.html


Bill Tozer

Don B. Yep, those Polls came out at 11:00 am, Eastern time, published @ 11:10'am EST. 14,hours ago. Exactly as you said, and more. Not a bad survey size either. But, next time let the polling dude break the news. We must not step on any toes and take away the one job he has graciously volunteered to do the only task he can accomplish without getting it so very wrong. Besides, the fakesnews feeds somehow omitted anything that might be considered "off script", so it isn't all his fault. That is not the kind of water they want their waterboys to carry.

Todd Juvinall

Monte Montes article needs some more pro-posters. Frisch and other loons are trying to rewrite history. Also, Pelline left my comment on his blog where I take to task the fibs about the Voting Rights Act repeal of a couple of years ago.

Walt

More news that the Paul refused to acknowledge. If Trump wan't involved, or accused of influence, the Paul just wan't interested.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/24/trump-questions-why-obama-allegedly-did-nothing-about-russia-hacking-in-fox-interview.html

Bill Tozer

Dems or Russians-take your pick.

I personally hope the Dems never stop talking about Russians. Never, ever. The Democrats are proof that evolution can go in reverse, which is a dangerous place to be. Danger is a letter short of anger. Apparently, folks in the heartland feel the same way.

Rep. Tim Walz (D-Minn.) has been paying particularly close attention to voters’ concerns because he’s running for governor in 2018. The Russia-Trump investigation, he said, isn’t on their radar.
“I did a 22-county tour. … Nobody’s focusing on that,” Walz said. “That’s not to say that they don’t think Russia and those things are important, [but] it’s certainly not top on their minds.”

“I don’t think anybody wants to give a pass to illegal or unethical activity,” he added. “But in life we all have priorities, and the first priority for my constituents is to their families — as it should be."

No, Russia not on the voters' minds. The obstruction of democracy is the real danger where the rubber meets the road and that is why the Dems are 0-5 in special elections.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/339248-dems-push-leaders-to-talk-less-about-russia

Nothing is so dangerous as an ignorant friend.
Jean de La Fontaine

The most dangerous thing is illusion.
Ralph Waldo Emerson

A shipwreck on land is a beacon at sea.

Don Bessee

The queens of fakenews CNN got busted again for lying in the latest Russia story. Supposedly an investment fund had personal connections to Trump based on the usual anonymous sourcing.

They then had to scrub every mention of the story and apologize. Just another brick in the fakenews wall. You listening ya po' ol' Russian obsessed fakenewsman? ;-)

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

re: DonB @ 12:53PM

No doubt the apology ran on page 17.

A good question for newswarriors like PaulE would be whether this kind of thing happens because they want to be first to press? or because the strength of the narrative pushes the story out?

Covefefe.

Bill Tozer

Fear? Well, men at sea or in the battle field pray not to be delivered, but pray to be delivered.from fear. Yo Dems, you can worry about the Russians for me. Be our guest.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/23/krauthammer-trump-james-comey-tapes-robert-mueller-probe-witness-intimidation

Bill Tozer

Thank you CAvDemocrats! You rock.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1114343065366396/?type=3&theater

The Russians can't hold a candle to the Democrat Party,

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1115064315294271/?type=3&theater

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

With friends like this, who needs enemies?

https://nypost.com/2017/06/24/inside-the-shadowy-intelligence-firm-behind-the-trump-dossier/

Walt

But Scenes,,, our news man still will believe that work of fiction to be real.
DAMN the lack of evidence or facts, it's the seriousness of the trumped up charges that really matters.

fish

"Many have defined Hillary Clinton as 'unique', a 'one off', or 'special' and now we have confirmation. Over the past quarter century, the favorability ratings of losing presidential candidates generally have increased after the election, however, as Gallup's latest poll shows, seven months after her failed bid for the presidency, she remains as unpopular now as she was then."-


Awwww.....poor Hillary!



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-25/spot-odd-one-out-hillary-losing-presidential-candidates-ratings-edition

Walt

The plot thickens...
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/06/25/jeff-zucker-cnn-retraction-russia-conspiracy/
"Meanwhile, Senate Democrats find themselves on the hot seat as insiders point to leftist staff for members like Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) and Kamala Harris (D-CA) as being responsible for the thinly-sourced hit piece. Staff for Harris deny any involvement, but Warren staff have not responded."

Bill Tozer

From Scene's link

"And there was nothing untoward about it. It was a dinner celebrating the 10th birthday of Russian TV network RT, and Flynn sat at the same table with Putin as US Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein."

Hmmm. Now it all makes sense. Presidential candidate Jill Stein sitting at the table with Putin, then demands a recall of votes to undo the 2016 election. It was Jill Stein colluding with the Russians to overturn Trump's election. Mystery solved.

Don Bessee

BT- You just connected the dots to the po' ol' greenie fakenewsman and the cover-up perpetrated by Stein. Like a good party parrot he has been locally leading the charge on the fake Russian news. Faucahants, Stein, Watters, Schiff et all conspiring to damage the people of the US! Bunch of losers. I bet they have Russian dressing on every salad! ;-)

Paul Emery

I don't recall ever making any reference to Stein Don. Things been boring for you Don? Perhaps some serial phone calls r time spent with your neighbors will liven things up. As Leornard Cohen sings "Everybody Knows".

Bill Tozer

Democrats of Russians.
When those walls start tumbling down and you look up and notice they are going to be tumbling down on you, that my friends, is not a good place to be. Everything the Democrats and their fakenews waterboys do keeps blowing up in their hands. Now their fingers are being blown to Smithereens, torching more than their eyebrows. No reset button is going to fix this. Their Obsessive Compulsive TDS-Russia Disordet is making them look like both ingredients that conprises stink of shit.

http://www.hannity.com/articles/election-493995/watch-sen-grassley-rips-schumer-for-15937106/#.WU7Hhs6MEoN.twitter

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1626359077376717&set=p.1626359077376717&type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/874288596054697/?type=3&theater

Oh what a feeling.

Bill Tozer

Just in: Russians may have cast 5.7 illegal votes!! Threat to our democracy! Opps, that was the Democrat Party. Much more effective, deceptive and cunning than the Putin could ever be. Vlady plays second fiddle to our Leftists.

http://nation.foxnews.com/2017/06/20/new-study-supports-trump-57-million-noncitizens-may-have-cast-illegal-votes

Todd Juvinall

BillT I think you may be on to something. Those wascally Rooskies got into the California Countiues Election offices. All 58. And 5 million votes were electronically cast for Hillary! You are so amazing! Now we know Trump won the popular vote too!

Bill Tozer

From Don B's 12:53 pm :

Mr. Zucker, tear down this wall.

It didn’t take long for that story to fall apart completely, with Breitbart News discovering that the “investigation” Frank spoke of is not a Senate Intelligence Committee investigation but is rather being conducted by a few hysterical Democrats who happen to be on the Senate Intelligence Committee.

BuzzFeed News quotes one source “close to the network” as stating that both CNN Worldwide President Jeff Zucker and the company’s head of human resources are “directly involved” in an internal investigation seeking answers as to how such a massive accusation was made with such thin sourcing.

According to BuzzFeed’s source, the story is being treated as a “massive, massive f*ck up and people will be disciplined.”

https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2017/06/cnn-russia-execs/

And the walls came tumbling down.


ScenesFromTheApocalypse

I wouldn't worry about the Russia story too much. It'll die down over time, any retractions will run on page 20, in five years underemployed white people in coffee shops will still talk sagely about 'you know, Trump colluded with the Russians and he hired call girls in Moscow!!!'

In the meantime, they're frantically on new fishing expeditions. The newswarrior story o' the day is the Trump Shoe Company.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/24/news/companies/ivanka-trump-court-deposition-aquazzura/index.html

Paul Emery

AT least one Republican is not a Trump cuddler. This blog has gone from cuddling to outright wet kisses. Bizarre. I've been staying out of it. You guys are entertaining enough without me.

“And I say, look, I was no fan of President Obama… but I would much rather have him as my president than Vladimir Putin, who kills his enemies,” Rep. Adam Kinzinger says. “It shows how much people need leadership on foreign policy.”

He is prepared to wage a rebellion and raise “holy hell” in the face of new efforts by the White House and its allies to water down a bill enshrining into law tough sanctions on Vladimir Putin’s government. The measure—which passed overwhelmingly in the Senate—ran into trouble last week as Trump allies raised procedural roadblocks and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson complained the bill unduly ties the administration’s hands. “There will be some holy hell from some of us that would be very upset about this,” says Kinzinger, an up-and-coming member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee who’s emerged as a rare voice inside the GOP willing to publicly critique the president of his own party on foreign policy. A particularly ardent Russia hawk in a party that was until recently filled with them, Kinzinger has taken to tweeting with the hashtag “#russiaisnotourally” in what seems to be a direct challenge to the Twitter-loving president, and he says in the interview: “I think you will see a House that is very, very eager to make sure this thing passes.”

All of which is to suggest that the argument over the sanctions is no mere procedural scuffle—it gets right to the heart of the Russia story that Trump and his party just can’t get away from.


http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/26/adam-kinzinger-russia-215309


Todd Juvinall

We would not want to leave you out of our teachable moments. And GOD only knows the help you need.

Todd Juvinall

Travel ban wins for Trump.

http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/3d281c11a96b4ad082fe88aa0db04305/Article_2017-06-26-US--Supreme%20Court-Travel%20Ban/id-d5738691d91f437d820f25c234304a4a

George Rebane

Anyone attempting the point that Russia is more likely than the Democrats to fundamentally transform America has to support his arguments with a plausible scenario of how Russia would ever manage to accomplish such a change. None has been given here or in the national media. All we have is empty charges such as PaulE's gratuitous 901am accusing those here going "from cuddling to outright wet kisses." Even with such empty responses, I'd like to see an example of a 'wet kiss' from these pages.

Paul Emery

George

Trump is pushing back on sanctions as proposed by The House. That's a wet smacker if there ever was one. Read my 9:01 for details.

"The measure—which passed overwhelmingly in the Senate—ran into trouble last week as Trump allies raised procedural roadblocks and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson complained the bill unduly ties the administration’s hands."

The fact that Trump said to the Russians that firing Comey took pressure off the Russia investigation is another. I can go on and on but there's no point. Contributors to this blog who believe the Democrats are a greater threat to our sovereignty than the Russians are hopelessly delusional and don't deserve direct response.

Paul Emery

Also the Democrats don't have thousands of nukes pointed at our cities only a button push away. Dems don't have nukes as far as I know.

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery has nothing.

Don Bessee

"I can go on and on but there's no point." The first truth from the po' ol' fakenewsman, the problem is he does not get the there's no point part. Despite all the good bye's the po' ol' pollhead keeps slinking back in full party parrot mode. While even cnn realizes they have gone over the top po' ol' PE will still have huffpo, Maxine, Schiff and Pelosi to parrot. ;-)

Todd Juvinall

Good points DonB. The lamestream media and the democrats are deflecting now that we see Obama and his minions' withheld pertinent info on what they knew. And all to influence the election. Obama says he did not want to appear like he was interfering. SAY WHAT? He was on the campaign trail for her the whole time. Honestly these media types and the democrats truly thinks the American people are stupid. And that is in our favor. They outsmarted themselves.

George Rebane

PaulE 1035am - Your conversation wanders all over the place; most certainly you're not keeping to the thread of your accusation of RR commenters delivering "wet kisses". And bringing nukes to this thread indicates that you never understood the thread in the first place. One more time - re threat by Dems or Russians to fundamentally transform the US has nothing to do with nukes. FYI, nukes are used in a global war, not political subterfuge or non-constitutional governance by internal parties like the Dems. Russia has no motivation to nuke the US for the same reasons that MAD prevented the USSR from doing so. Try to stay on the rails.

Paul Emery

So George the Russian interference in our elections is not a problem to you?

Don Bessee

More party parrot boring from the boorish po' ol' fakenewsman. Snooooozzzzzer. ;-)

Bill Tozer

What's all the fuss about? Paul had been fretting and worrying (what concerns me is...) about Trump lifting the sanctions against Russia since before the Inaugation. Trump and that dirty oilman T Rex are going to lift the sanctions! Trump and T Rex is going to lift the sanctions for...oil and benefit evil oil companies! . "What concerns me is Trump is has no experience and Putin is going to run circles around him, blah, blah, blah". "Trump is Putin's puppet and Exxon is going after the pipelines and they are going to lift the sanctions!!!!!!!!! Danger, danger, danger, sound the alarms, all hands on deck. Man the battle stations. Danger, Will Robertson, danger!

Geeze fellas, at least Paul is consistent. You guys act like this is something new.
But, but, but... we makes nice with Saudi Arabia! Human rights violators!
Well, the Saudis are our allies, human rights violators or not. Good to make nice with our allies. That is usually what allies do. Besides, sanctions is a nice distraction to take the focus (heat) off our Democrat Party's blatant death march to tyranny while writing laws that neatly subvert our Constitution, all in the guise of "equality".
Sanctions! Look at sanctions, not the imploding Left.

Oh course Russia has a billion warheads pointing at us. It's their deterrent to keep the Lefty War Mongers here from attacking Mother Russia. A reasonable response to the real threat, which is the Deep State Democrats.

George Rebane

PaulE 1132am - Wow and double-wow!! From where in hell do you get that conclusion?? I'm not kidding Paul, show us the workings of your mind - please.

Gregory

Paul 1035, the 80's are calling and they want their foreign policy back.

George 1120, I think Paul is just throwing turds into the fan.

Paul 1132, you're talking about the interference that didn't change a single vote? If the DNC doesn't want hackers from anywhere getting into their computers, they should invest in security. Lock the barn door.

Bill Tozer

Oh my. The Leader of The Resistance speaks. Onward Together....off the cliff.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1116133118520724/?type=3&theater

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/25/rally-for-peace-trump-supporters-condemn-lefts-climate-of-violence-at-white-house/

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/874637712686452/?type=3&theater

I feear the Democrats and the damage done by Fakenews. Luckily, both are being considered for placement on The Endangered Species List to keep a few around to show our grandchildren whatthe real threat to our Constitutional Republic looked like.

Don Bessee

Here is a Russian nugget for the po' ol' pollhead, a poll in Russia had Stalin taking the #1 spot from putin as the greatest Russian. Sounds like the commie core is rising to the surface again. That should make for better relations with the rabid left like our po' ol' druid. Back to the future for the socialist collective. ;-)

Paul Emery

Simple question George. The residents of this blog show no concern for what has absolutely been established as Russian attempts to interfere with our elections. I'm asking if you run with that crowd or have your own opinion. Not much from you on that.

Don Bessee

What a maroon @ 1217. We have been at odds with the Russians for a century with a brief WWII cooperation to crush the Nazis. You continue to look wacky acting like Russia screwing with us at every tern is somehow new.

For someone like you ya po' ol' fakenewsman to impugn people who served under arms is a perfect example of the newspeak of the leftists and why they have lost touch with Americans. 73% say you are a distraction to real national interests and 63% say you are hurting the Country, but of course that is the real point of your exercise is it not? ;-)

Gregory

punchy 1217

No one "resides" here more than you do, Paul. Simple question... do you count?

Let me repeat the question... you're talking about the interference that didn't change a single vote?

Bill Tozer

@ 12:27 pm Paul, the word is meddle, meddle, not interfer. But, you are coming around slowly and, by golly, finally jumped in with both feet and used the most accurant description as "Russian attempts to interfere with our elections." Excellent. Bravo! Kudos! Attempts to interfere" is a big leap forward, Punchy, after all these months of Rope-a--Dope and the Bob & Weave Show. Al last, we are finally on the same page, albeit Wikileaks has in no way yet to be "absolutely been established as Russian attempts to interfere with outr election. Remember, the DNC refused to let our government see their server. Refused all help. But, let's celebrate today's big breakthrough. Making progress there, Punchy. Good water boy, good. You deserve a nice treat. Time to get your dog biscuit.

George! George! Paul is calling you. George, do you agree with these Putin cuddlershere or not? Yes or no, yes or no! And no 50 shades of grey. George, you are running with Russian lubbers! George, George!

Todd Juvinall

So let me see. Hmmm. The Rooskies some say tried to interfere with our elections and failed. And there is no proof their alledged efforts had any impact on even one voye. OK, so the reality appears they had nothing to do with anything. So tell us where is the beef?

Bill Tozer

Todd, '"Where is the beef" is not the question of real import. The real question, the big question, the only question that matters today is " Why is Dr. Rebane running with that Putin bromance crowd and why has Dr. Rebane not stood up and denounced them?"
Why, why, why.? George! George! Your lack of denouncement and repudiation of them Irredeemables is PROOF you have a Putin bromance, too! George, oh George, answer me now!

Walt

Hell. Let's call KVMR and see if they can replace the not so "up on the facts" news guy with another. Megan Kelly might be needing a new gig. At least her ratings would improve at KVMR. NBC is sure regretting giving her a job.

Todd Juvinall

Walt where did you see Kelly's ratings?

Walt

Yup, Dems are more dangerous. LIBS pushed for high dollar minimum wage, and in some places it's in place. And take a look at what it's done.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/26/minimum-wage-you-want-jobs-with-that/
Employees replaced with automation. Great thinking.

Don Bessee

Yes Walt its is very funny that the 20 million dollar wonder woman has been last in ratings. Getting beaten by repeats of 60 minutes says it all. Will she be banished to msnbc hell for not being ready for prime time? She thought all the Trump bashing would make her a bombshell star at NBC but its turned into a wet firecracker for the NBC fools who paid her all that cash. ;-)

Walt

Todd.
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/tv-ratings-sunday-night-with-megyn-kelly-1202478257/

Paul Emery

Speaking of serving under arms Don can you share with us you're military record?

Paul Emery

For your reading pleasure

After a brief flurry Trump is again in the dump with 14.4 negative polls. Down by an astounding 22 in Gallup daily.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

Walt

No one cares about your meaningless polls. But whatever helps you sleep at noon.

I hear that Art Bell refused to take your job. The reasoning was your farther "out there" than he is.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

re: BT@12:36

https://i.redd.it/xaees3ndnz5z.png

Don Bessee

Really ya po' ol' fakenewsman? You aren't really going to resurrect your pecker head friends old lie about me 'being a marine on mental leave from the gulf war' are you? That lie was disproven in court years ago because my DD214 shows honorable service with the AF. Typical of po' ol' PE showing he can not hack it when facts enter the conversation about his Russian dressing addiction. More pathetic than ever. ;-)

Todd Juvinall

DonM, he attacked me relentlessly for having a 326 in the first lottery and not volunteering in 1968-69. He took a "reserve" position with the AF and was able to stay stateside during Vietnam. He even accused me of being a liar as I said I was married with a child. You cannot make this stuff up!

Bill Tozer

Walt @ 1:02 pm. Darn it, you beat me too it. Well, I snooze, I lose. Got distracted with a thing called 'life happens'. Was going to place it over at the Great Divide, but I will post here and say kudos for being the early bird.

Per Walt's 1:02 pm......do ya fear Da Russia or the Democrats more, be they liberals, progressives, or Democtraic Socialists?

"In other words, exactly what conservatives and those who understand basic supply and demand predicted."

https://heatst.com/biz/surprise-surprise-study-shows-seattles-minimum-wage-hike-hurt-low-wage-workers-earnings/?mod=sm_fb_post

Don Bessee

Todd @ 215- I seem to recall the po' ol' fakenewsman happily throwing chicken hawk at people during the Russian invasion of Ukraine. He didn't seem too worried about Russian adventurism at all.

But now that madam liar liar pantsuits on fire spent $1,200,000,000.00 in a losing campaign its different, right? ;-)

Bill Tozer

Bigger threat to our security, the Democrat Party or Da Russian are coming?

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/anti-trump-leak-campaign-damaging-u-s-allied-operations/

Todd Juvinall

Headed to a Supervisor announcement today at 5:30. And no it is not me. LOL!

Don Bessee

Lets review how the Russian dressing story is playing out in the real world (not in fakenewsmens heads obviously).

CNN investigations unit had 3 employees fired over the latest fake Russian news they had to retract, including the head of the unit.

It has come out that Gen Flynn had a target on his back placed there by McCabe the #2 at the FBI. 2 years before Flynn was unmasked illegally Flynn had officially supported an intel specialist in her sexual harassment complaint against McCabe. Flynn offered to testify for her and wrote to the investigators using his official stationary.

McCabe used all the clout he could to kill the investigation into his possible misdeeds but with people like Flynn supporting the accuser the investigation went forward and is in fact ongoing. McCabe was forced to give sworn depositions. Now it makes sense, simple revenge against Flynn with a dose of Russian dressing and the dems post election mantra the Russians did have wasted time that could have been used to make America great again! ;-)

Don Bessee

Here is an end of the day toke for the po' ol' pollhead- A Harvard poll shows 54% of people think the deep state is driving all of this to unseat Trump.
Is it possible that the fakenewsmen have a negative favorability poll number now? ;-)

Paul Emery

Don

what is "Deep State" and who made that definition?

Don Bessee

What's that squeaking and scratching sound? A fakenewsmand perhaps? Is anyone surprised the po' ol' pollhead is ignoring my 502? ;-)

Walt

You expect us to believe you haven't heard of it Paul? And who the hell gives a crap who coined the phrase. The real question is, do you have any clue what it means? And no cut and paste from Wiki, or anywhere else for that matter.

Paul Emery

Don't have a clue Walt. The only time I hear it is from you guys. Please define.

Walt

Not doing your homework for you. None of your confidential informants have read you in?
More "news man" creds shot to shi*...

Paul Emery

I see that term all the time Walt but I'm not sure what it means to you. Seems to mean different things to different people. We need that to have a basis for discussion. Does it mean solid blue States such as Calif and New York or what?

Don Bessee

And we all thought he wasn't talking to us deplorable types anymore.;-)

Gregory

Golly gee, Paul, the Harvard-Harris poll defined it thusly in that question... "CT27 Specifically, do you think the so called "Deep State" -the collection of intelligence agencies and holdover workers from the Obama administration -- is trying to unseat President Trump using leaks of classified information?

And yes, on page 95, it shows 54% yea on that.

On the next page, an interesting followup... why did Hillary lose?
Hillary Clinton and her 1495
campaign team for running a 67%
weak campaign

or

Forces like the Russians, 743
former FBI director Comey, 33%
and the Democratic National
Committee not having
reliable voter data


Paul, 2 to 1 people think Hillary lost it herself, not 'cause the Russkies, Comey or the DNC being unable to find their ass with both hands free. That kind of suggests the witch hunt tactic might be self limiting.

Gregory

and the link to the original
http://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Topline_HCAPS_HarrisPoll_June-Wave_Top-Line-Memo_Registered-Voters_06.22.17.pdf

Paul Emery

That's not the question. You and I can agree that Hillary waged a terrible campaign and in my view should have never been picked by the Dems. even with those flaws she won the popular vote by millions but came up short in three key states by only a few thousand votes. the question is did Russia violate our sovereignty by interfering with our elections. Trumps homeland security believes so. Here's from their testimony just a few days ago

"Russian government-linked hackers potentially targeted as many as 21 states' election systems last year, a Homeland Security official warned Congress on Wednesday.
None of those systems were involved in vote counting, however.
DHS' acting Director of Cyber Division of the department's Office of Intelligence and Analysis, Samuel Liles, said that by late September the intelligence community concluded that 21 states "were potentially targeted by Russian government-linked cyber actors" with scanning of Internet-connected election systems. Liles did not specify which 21 states he was referring to.
The comments came during a hearing of DHS and FBI cybersecurity officials before the Senate intelligence committee. "

Paul Emery

Also all you Putin cuddlers must believe that that Syria didn't use chemical weapons a couple of months ago. I mean that's what Putin believes and he's you're guy, much preferred over any Demorat. Here's a quote from your guy.

"President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday that Russia had information that the United States was planning to launch new missile strikes on Syria, and that there were plans to fake chemicals weapons attacks there.

Putin was speaking hours before U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson was due to arrive in Moscow for talks with Russia's foreign minister and days after denouncing last week's U.S. missile strike on a Syrian air base as illegal.

Standing alongside Italian President Sergio Mattarella who was in Moscow for talks, Putin, when asked by a reporter if he expected more U.S. missile strikes on Syria, said:

"We have information that a similar provocation is being prepared ... in other parts of Syria including in the southern Damascus suburbs where they are planning to again plant some substance and accuse the Syrian authorities of using (chemical weapons)."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-usa-putin-idUSKBN17D1K9

Gregory

Paul, after answering the question, I added the 2 to 1 a'gin you question to potentially target your sense of futility regarding trying to motivate the 33% who think the Russkies might have made a difference.

Wow... "potentially targeted by" the Russkies. I guess that means I'll potentially be concerned. So, Paul... how many states had their "internet-connected election systems" compromised, and not just "potentially targeted"? That seems to be a big zero.

I gather there's still no actual evidence the Russkies succeeded in damaging squat.

Good luck in getting the Constitution amended to eliminate that pesky Electoral College. Too late for 2016 in any case. Maybe by 2116? Maybe never?

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 26 June 2017 at 07:07 PM


A frightened old man terrified that a "proper" politician isn't ensconced in the White House.......sad!

Gregory

PE 707pm
"I mean that's what Putin believes and he's you're [sic] guy, much preferred over any Demorat [sic]"

Stop making shit up, Paul.

Paul Emery

Gregory

I guess you ignore the findings of Trumps Homeland Security Team and the entire intelligence community as well as the head of the FBI, NSA, CIA........ Incredible. Gregory you and three or four on this blog and Trump are the only ones that believe that. Amazing.

readers take note. this is a very unusual collection here at Rebanes Ruminations.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

http://billmoyers.com/2014/02/21/anatomy-of-the-deep-state/

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