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11 July 2017

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fish

Compassionate secession by our Left is the constructive advice of America’s liberals as highlighted under ‘Healthcare from Hell’. Since we can’t see ourselves letting illegal aliens die in the streets, and we won’t seal our borders, their only counsel is for America to slowly succumb to the onslaught of unassimilating mass migrations across our open borders. Achieving Agenda21’s post-American globalism with no fuss or muss.


The childless have no other stake in this other than feeling good (getting stuff, virtue signaling, etc.) now!

Bill Tozer

http://observer.com/2017/07/jerry-brown-cautions-democratic-party-progressives/amp/?ref=yfp

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

"The childless have no other stake in this other than feeling good (getting stuff, virtue signaling, etc.) now!"

Consider how many European leaders are childless.

Todd Juvinall

The media are rabid dogs. I watched and listened to them and the montages of their frothings and it is amazing that grown educated people could act and talk like a five year old. Trump Jr. did nothing unlawful or even uneti=hical yet the media thinks it is treason. No one believes thos media fools anymore.

Steve Frisch

Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 12 July 2017 at 08:05 AM

Seriously?

Besides the fact that the Trump campaign has serially lied to the American people about meeting with representatives of the Russian government, laid bare by Donald Jr,s self released e-mails; Kushner and Manafort lied; they all failed to disclose these meetings on security forms; they broke campaign finance law by agreeing to take a meeting to receive information from a foreign entity (the fact that no information of value was relayed which we don't actually know it has simply been asserted by Jr.).

Not unethical? I find it amazing that you do not believe that receiving information as part of the "Russian government effort to help Mr. Trump" is unethical.

Todd Juvinall

See what I mean readers? Frisch lies right out of the box parroting the lamestream media. The gal lawyer was not a Russian government rep. The meeting was asked for by a British publicist who the Trump's knew from the Miss Universe contest that was held in Moscow years before. No collusion, no graft and nothing taken from the meeting with the lawyer. But you can all see the way the left tries to spin everythimg as some nefarious act without any proof.

JR released all the email string so we can all see the issue and read it for ourselves.

Last, Frisch say campaign laws were broken but that too is a lie and untrue. Money has to change hands. None did. And not even any information on Clinton was passed as the gal lawyer used that as a ruse to get the meeting. But Frisch defends Clinton's partnership with the government of Ukraine as they worked together to get dirt on Trump. As well as Frisch supporting the Clinton sale of20% of American uranium by Clinton to the Russieians. Not a peep.

Steve Frisch

On June 3 at 10:36 AM, Rob Goldstone to Donald J. Trump Jr. wrote:

"The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father."

The Crown prosecutor of Russia:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/07/russian-crown-prosecutor/533295/

On Jun 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Rob Goldstone wrote:

"Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and The Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday."

The point that nothing was gained as you say from the meeting, which we do not know, the question is intent. The intent is illegal and not disclosing the meeting (by Kushner) is illegal.

Finally, money does not need to change hands for a campaign finance violation to have been committed. If anything of value including PR vape changed hands it is illegal, and meeting with the intent to exchange anything of value is also illegal.

I have taken no position here or anywhere else supporting the sale of uranium....I defy you to find that :)

You are so full of %&*# and blinded by your support for Trump that you have renounced your loyalty to the USA.

Steve Frisch

Should read"

"The point that nothing was gained as you say from the meeting, which we do not know, is irrelevant, the question is intent. The intent is illegal and not disclosing the meeting (by Kushner) is illegal.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

"The intent is illegal and not disclosing the meeting (by Kushner) is illegal."

An honest question.

Could you point me to the statutes that clearly make that case?

Todd Juvinall

Yes Rob Goldstone wrote those emails. And who was he? A British publicist who knew Trump from the Moscow Miss Universe Contest. Goldstone wrote the emails. Not Trump. You really are stretching the limits of intelligent analysis.

No collusion, no ethical l;apse, nothing. So a nothing burger.Hysterical people, silent coup.

Gregory

"JONATHAN TURLEY, GWU: It is like we have this giant Rorschach test and people see whatever they want to.

The criminal code has defined elements to it. You just don’t find these ambiguous crimes. Some people have said this could be treason. For the love of God, treason is defined in the Constitution. This is not treason."
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/07/11/gwu_law_prof_jonathan_turley_on_trump_jr_meeting_a_russia_for_the_love_of_god_this_is_not_treason.html

Todd Juvinall

Frisch and the left and the never Trumpers are unhinged. No crime here, but that apparentley makes no difference to them. If they want to toss the rule of law out, this is a poster child.

Gregory

FRISCH 859AM

"You are so full of %&*# and blinded by your support for Trump that you have renounced your loyalty to the USA."

A new low for Steven Frisch.

rl crabb

Conservative Steve Hayes pointed out on Fox News Report that while there was no crime committed by Trump Jr., the fact that a major player in a presidential campaign would willingly go to a meeting with someone who claimed to be affiliated with the Russian govt. to get dirt on their opponent and then NOT report it to the Federal B.I. was at the very least, stupid and a sad commentary on today's politics.

George Rebane

rlcrabb 1112am - Agreed. That some people in such high places still don't know that ALL emails are eventually in the public domain, instantly in a government database, and prima facie evidence in an investigation and/or court is to me beyond belief. How did they survive to get to such lofty heights in the first place? I think TrumpJr may have led a life too-sheltered by his father.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

"was at the very least, stupid and a sad commentary on today's politics."

Oh well, public urination is a problem too, but I didn't see a call for Jimmy Carter's impeachment because of his boorish brother (for that matter, it never stopped LBJ).

Made up controversy is made up,although their might be some sort of ham-handed cartoon in it.

Todd Juvinall

The only person who said anything about the meeting being with a "government" person was the British publicist. And the gal denies she was. So that is not on JR. But we see the hysteria again.

Bill Tozer

http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2017/07/11/robert-barnes-bob-mueller-assembling-team-ambitious-democratic-hit-men-trump/

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1127429727391063/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/rpp.235086849974878/885289701621253/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1128304897303546/?type=3&theater


Gregory

Earl Crabb, Steven Hayes is a conservative Never Trumper, expect him to be grinding that axe; he's in the Pence camp. I agree with him there's no crime there.

So, who in the Obama Administration's FBI would Donald Jr. one report that to, if he thought that might be a good idea? The same FBI the DNC didn't trust to examine their computers to after the supposed hacking by Russians? Or maybe someone more trustworthy next on the food chain, like Atty General Lynch?

Gregory

Scenes, thanks for the trip down memory lane! Billy Carter letting out some processed Billy Beer on the tarmac in view of the Saudis for whom he was working was a high point of the Carter Presidency.

Homer Simpson: "We elected the wrong Carter".

Todd Juvinall

Looks like the Russian lawyer gal was a employee of the fake Trump pee on the bed story. And now pictures ahve surfaced of her sitting next to the obama rep during the hearings on Russia/Ukraine. Looks like the DNC and Hillary/Bernie are now part of this.

Also Alan Dershowitz and the Turly law professor say NO CRIME! So you libs will be eating that crow again. LOVE IT!

Bill Tozer

Everything the Dems do blows up in their faces.

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/885113061638917/?type=3&theater

Never get tired of winning....also known as Lib Smackdown. But, it's not really fair. Like men playing flag football against boys.

Bill Tozer

On topic. Oh yes. Quotes from the current news cycle: Frothing Dems and fakenews men:

1)
The bottom line: “In the heat of your father’s presidential campaign, a bozo British publicist e-mails you to set up a sitdown with a ‘Russian government attorney’ promising ‘documents and information’ to ‘incriminate Hillary’ courtesy of the ‘Crown prosecutor of Russia’ as ‘part of’ the Russian government’s ‘support’ for dad — and you eagerly take the meeting. … Democrats and the media are frothing to find something criminal in it all, with the most unhinged talking treason. What it clearly was, was criminally stupid.” —New York Post
2)
For the record: “Here’s the truth: Trump isn’t a conspiratorial mastermind. He’s a man irked by empty criticisms and dedicated to kicking his enemies in their most vulnerable areas. Sometimes that looks like he’s reinforcing their theories. He isn’t. So long as the media insist that Trump is someone he isn’t, they’ll keep finding conspiracies that don’t fit the facts or the personality.” —Ben Shapiro
3)
And last… “Unlike Hillary Clinton, the IRS or the State Department, at least Donald Trump Jr. can find his emails!” —Gary Bauer


Bill Tozer

July 12 Update:

The thing I don't like about the frothing fakenews man and assorted exploding heads over the Russian Collusion Story of the Century is it always gets back to My Gal. To be frank, I am sick and tired of looking at her mug and listening to that gawd awful voice. The only thing worse would be to see Crankles naked. That is one image nobody should ever have burned in their brain. Cruel and unusual punishment. With all the trigger warnings in place, another story about My Gal:

http://truthfeed.com/breaking-wikileaks-exposes-hillarys-shady-pre-election-meeting-with-china/90502/


Todd Juvinall

Looks like everything JR did was legal. Oh my, the left will explode! LOL!

Bill Tozer

r/e update 7/12/16 :Beating that old dead nag into the ground.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1128732480594121/?type=3&theater

Bill Tozer

Nothing new in the fakenews man's theme park, Russiaworld. More like Wallyworld.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/13/russian-lawyer-who-met-with-donald-trump-jr-worked-with-democrats-for-years/

Don Bessee

With the Clinton piggy bank for Chelsea getting jillions from the commies is anyone surprised that they would do the President like they did comrade Bernie? ;-)

Bill Tozer

Russia baiters and Putin haters

"During the Cold War, every president sought detente with a USSR that was arguably the most blood-soaked regime of the century.

When the Cold War ended in December 1991, the Soviet Union had dissolved into 15 nations. Moscow had given up her empire, a third of her territory, and half the population of the USSR. Marxist-Leninist ideology was dead. An epochal change had taken place.

Yet hostility to Russia and hatred of Putin seem to exceed anything some of us remember from the worst days of the Cold War.

Putin’s Russia is called imperialist, though Estonia, next door, which Russia could swallow in one gulp, has been free for 25 years."

http://buchanan.org/blog/russia-baiters-putin-haters-127344

Bill Tozer

Wow. An entire week of 24/7 News you Can't Use discredited. Must be a new record.

http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/entire-week-cnn-putin-trump-coverage-proven-wrong/

Bill Tozer

Trump Jr.
https://patriotpost.us/opinion/50185

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