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21 July 2017

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Todd Juvinall

Woke up and now can't go back to sleep. Damn. So I was checking the accomplishment of the Trumpster and his Admin. Here is an excellent article with graphs for Russ and GeorgeR . Have fun. And Paul Emery will have to go hide.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/president-trumps-first-six-months-are-historical-with-stock-market-on-fire-and-americans-hopeful-that-america-will-be-great-again/

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

War in the 2010's.

The idea of weaponized immigration is an interesting one.

https://archive.fo/3pYyW

Bill Tozer

Math is oppressive in all CA community colleges.

https://heatst.com/culture-wars/california-college-boss-wants-algebra-graduation-requirement-gone-says-its-civil-rights-issue/?mod=sm_fb_post

fish

"Eloy Oritz Oakley, the boss of 113 community colleges in California, made his suggestion during an interview with NPR. He said the algebra requirement is particularly troublesome because it prevents a number of students from graduating from community colleges, adding that almost 50 percent of students don’t meet the standard.

“This is a civil rights issue but this is also something that plagues all Americans — particularly low-income Americans,” he said.

“If you think about all the underemployed or unemployed Americans in this country who cannot connect to a job in this economy — which is unforgiving of those students who don’t have a credential — the biggest barrier for them is this algebra requirement. It’s what has kept them from achieving a credential.”


"This is a civil rights issue"!

Indeed it is.....much like me disappointing society by not convincing it that I deserve to be a male supermodel....with all the money and benefits that accompany that lofty position in life.

Like Eloy (jeez...the jokes write themselves) said......clearly a civil rights issue!

fish

SPICY........OUT!!!


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/21/us/politics/sean-spicer-resigns-as-white-house-press-secretary.html

Todd Juvinall

The gap is closing now that the trimmigants are outta here. Dems up by only 1,000. We will gain the plurality back for the coming elections in 2018.

http://www.mynevadacounty.com/nc/elections/Pages/Voter-Status.aspx

Robert Cross

How often does the average person who is not working in some science or engineering field use algebra? In fact, how often does anybody use algebra in the world of software that does everything. Calculators are allowed for the SAT tests so what is the rub here other than the 'civil rights' statement?

Don Bessee

What do you do when there are no batteries for the calculator @921, use a slide rule, oh wait they don't teach that anymore. ;-)

Don Bessee

Here is something that will seen the po' ol' fakenewsman back to bed- The DNC in May had its worst fundraising month since the war started and June was no better. The DNC is in the hole for over 3 million bucks. This on the heels of Trump and the RNC setting fundraising records month after month with tons of cash on hand. Sounds like the po' ol' pollhead is worse than a broken clock on being right. ;-)

Walt

Well,,LIBS didn't do this.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/boom-mining-216-q1-construction-56-manufacturing-47-bust-finance-and
The people who get their hands dirty for a living did. Trump and his rollbacks made it possible.

Gregory

What the prospective student wanted
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nauLgZISozs

What the student got
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DUCZXn9RZ9s

A diploma, but still stupid... couldn't even get the Pythagorean theorem correct.

Todd Juvinall

Here is a "journalist's response to my email criticizing his "astory" in today's BEE. These people really are delusional.

"anonymous sourced? We went to all the parties involved, if you are unmoved by the association with dirty money by people in the inner circle, that's fine. But don't call it yellow journalism when we go to every party involved. are you denying that they tried to get a fugitive on the Interpol list a visa? seems like we proved that, Ridloff confirmed it. Seems like we went to Sater's door, to Ridloff's office, got the actual visa applications, went to the lawyers, talked to the airport officials who described how they vanished in the night (presumably after the visa came through). That's reporting my friend, that's not yellow journalism. if you don't like the focus, fine, but learn what yellow journalism is, this was just old fashioned reporting of the facts. rgds Kevin

Gregory

Cross 921
"How often does the average person who is not working in some science or engineering field use algebra?"

Algebra is 8th (or now 9th) grade math, not rocket science. If they don't grok algebra in "College" they probably can't reason with fractions, either.

fish

Posted by: Robert Cross | 21 July 2017 at 09:21 AM


As somebody who struggled with math in general as well as Algebra in particular for a time think of it simply as an intellectual barrier that needs to be surmounted. It's really not that hard to pass with a C.

How relaxed do you think the standards should be?

Don Bessee

A crumb for the po' ol' pollhead since he already had to grab the smelling salts this morning, only 8% of dems approve of the Presidents job performance. Even with that the dems can't get their folks to open their wallets in opposition to the R's. Could the dems have oversold on the special elections that cost so much money and that only brought a string of defeats? OR could it be the dems committed financial suicide with the leftiest of the left Perez and Ellison as DNC co-chairs? ;-)

Gregory

fish, if someone can't grok algebra before they graduate from high school they're either stupid, lazy or poorly prepared.

With Common Core (tm) math now the rule in k-12, assume the latter.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

re: Fish and Gregory.

Absolutely. Simply view algebra as a form of IQ test. You can always find some subject that a particular college graduate doesn't need in their workplace.

Another way to look at it is that the more you lower the bar, the more common a degree is, so more people need one.

Honestly, it might be simpler to cut to the chase and just hand out college diplomas to everyone at age 22.

Todd Juvinall

I used geometry the most.

fish

Posted by: ScenesFromTheApocalypse | 21 July 2017 at 10:17 AM


.....just hand out college diplomas to everyone at age 22.


Hand them out? Can't you just mail me one?

/whine off

fish

Hey! They finally busted that Peruvian Howler Monkey who likes to choke out peoples 1st amendment rights!


IT’S DIFFERENT WHEN THEY DO IT: Militant left-wing leader arrested for allegedly inciting violence at 2016 Sacramento melee.



http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/07/21/militant-left-wing-leader-arrested-for-allegedly-inciting-violence-at-2016-sacramento-melee.html

Paul Emery

Readers

Don Bessee the one who was oversold on special elections by being the instigator and main spokesperson for measure W, that ballot measure that lost 60-40 and cost Nevada County thousands to put on the ballot. Around 70,000 I believe. Gosh, that money could have been used to fix our roads.

Not a special election but a big loser especially for the Nevada County taxpayers.

Gregory

Scenes1017
"Absolutely. Simply view algebra as a form of IQ test."

That is absolutely NOT what I wrote or intended. With competent curriculum and competent instructors, just about any student with an above room temp IQ can manage a basic understanding of algebra 1 in the 8th or 9th grades, and even a brilliant kid can have their natural abilities and motivations blunted by bad teaching.

The problem remains that virtually no kids in California public schools will have an unbroken string of competent math teachers and are now guaranteed texts not up to snuff.

Don Bessee

Talk about the po' ol' fakenewsman whistling past the cemetery of bad dem news today @ 1038. Golly gosh, your teams S tried to be a special, W was a regular election, not sure about the po' ol' fakenewsmans numbers but lets remember who sued the county at the last minute and ran up expenses. That's lame even for the resident pearl clutcher, how does he type when he is clutching pearls in one hand and smelling salts in the other? I am glad you think I run the Board of Supervisors and the County but then you are a fakenewsman.

CRICKETS on all the real news from the po' ol' fakenewsman, is anyone surprised? ;-)

Paul Emery

Readers

Measure W cost Nevada County taxpayers thousands of dollars to put on the ballot.

Mr Bessee, do you have the exact expense to Nevada County taxpayers that Measure W incurred?

Todd Juvinall

Well I recall when Paul Emery was involved in a monumental loss at the Supervisor level in 1994. Got whipped by a little gal. He even used my project for the middle class and poor of the community as a fouil for his candidate. But he lost and the BOS was in good hands for another four years. Anyway, we all have defeated and some get a victory. I won the election over two Nevada City liberals who were supposed to beat me badly. They felt badly but I was really happy.

So Paul Emery were you a supporter of the Nuclear Free Zone?

Bottom line, Paul Emery is a limosine liberal living in a little house somewher in the county and he helped deny 23 families from having a home.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

"That is absolutely NOT what I wrote or intended."

Fair enough. It is what I wrote and intended though.

I think it's reasonable to require subjects that force people to think (and act as a form of sieve), even if they aren't directly applicable to a person's career as an HVAC technician. Mainstream and relatively simple mathematics strikes me as valuable even if never used. As usual, there's algebra and then there's algebra.

Make me dictator of the school system, and Latin is back on the curriculum.

Don Bessee

Is that phase 3 in stage 2 of denial @1111? Sad that the po' ol' fakenewsman can't sustain a conversation about todays happenings, they have so wobbled him that he can't even throw out another worst numbers EVER! Golly gosh what a way to start your po' ol' weekend fakenewsman. ;-)

Paul Emery

Todd

That election was a close loss for Jim Weir (35 votew) however the Progressive community regrouped and two years later won District 1 with Peter Van Zant using "Remember Glenbrook" as our message about trash development in Nevada County. Thanks for the help Todd.

Michael R. Kesti

Don Bessee 21Jul17 09:26 AM

There are some calculators that have algebraic functionality but most calculators and all slide rules are about arithmetic rather than algebra.

Don Bessee

Hey Kesti, How ya been? It was about the fact that without a calculator most graduates cant do the math much less algebra. How does that prepare them for life? Ever notice how cashiers get so flustered when you give them a bill coin mix intended to get specific denomination change?
Its symptomatic of an education system that is giving out more and more A's in HS and the SAT scores are going down at the same time. ;-)

Bill Tozer

Fish @ 10:25 am.

That Peruvian Howley Mobkee teaches middle school in......drumroll please.........Deepest Blue Central, CA.....a 3 hour or so drive from here.

The Lefties' solution to education is the dumping down of their domain, and thus continues unabated. That is taking equality on the wrong road.

Don Bessee

Now I see why the po' ol' pollhead is so rattled today, Katie Couric said that fakenews is ripping apart the nation. Et tu Katie!

Look at the bright side, abortionists are still less popular than fakenewsmen. ;-)

Paul Emery

Don Bessee can you share with our readers how much Measure W cost Nevada County taxpayers?

fish

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 21 July 2017 at 12:00 PM


Oh I know Bill! I imagine the after school "Struggle Sessions" are very rewarding!

Bill Tozer

Fish @ 12:09 pm
Milo was right. In a very calm, reasonable, and straightforward manner, Milo argued that the Lefties have had a monolpoly on our education system for 40 years, so why not let the Right run it for awhile to see if they can do better.

There is no conceivable way the Righty Tighties could do worse.

Gregory

Vidi, vici, veni. -Orange Julius

Latin was dropped from my high school the year I was slated to take it and while two years of German was entertaining, two years of Latin would probably have increased my English skills, not ruined my spelling... no, it's friend, not freund, though being able to pronounce schadenfreude and integrating it into my vocabulary before it was fashionable was a boon. If you were appointed dictator of the school system tomorrow, Scenes, it would take years to hire the first teacher for Latin (unless said dictatorship came with the ability to ignore teacher certification rules) and unless you were fluent or knew and trusted someone who was, whoever you hired probably wouldn't be.

If you require a passing grade in Algebra, a class and a grading rubric will be available such that most all kids will pass, even if they took pre-algebra from the idiot I was talking to recently, a wannabee pilot with a rotting ramp rat of an airplane, who "taught" prealgebra in a nearby district but had no clue how to rationalize a repeating decimal. In other words, show why .3333... is equal to 1/3, or 0.122122122... is equal to 122/999.

I fully expect all his students were set up for failure by his incompetence and the incompetence of the folks who hired him and kept him on for years. But then there were the incompetents that passed kids along to him, and those who passed the kids on after he was done with them. Now, that guy was not teaching at the Grass Valley district my kid wasted two years attending, but I recall one STAR exam result showing only one kid out of over 140 tested "advanced" in Algebra (the highest ranking, above proficient, basic, below basic and far below basic) at the GVSD.

I'd put it to you (and everyone else) that the GVSD didn't know how to prepare kids to learn algebra or to teach it. I expect they still don't. I do expect some are competent enough, but just do their best in flawed schools with flawed textbooks while surviving until CalSTRS starts cutting them checks.

Don Bessee

You are so cute when you stomp your foot and hold your breath @1209. You should read the new book; Fake Science Exposing the lefts skewed statistics, fuzzy facts, and dodgy data By Austin Ruse ;-)

Gregory

Paul, I typically leave a $1 tip when I pay $4 for a cheap scotch and soda at my favorite blue collar bar.

That $1 tip is how much more than my per capita share of the Prop W cost to be on the ballot? How much road repair would that have bought?

Don Bessee

Now don't burden the po' ol' fakenewsman with real numbers Gregory.

Iran's munnions the so called palastiniens are in high riot mode because the police are putting metal detectors in the entrance to the temple mount after last weeks stabbings. 3 dead and scores injured, just wait till the mosques get out today. This could grow if that's what the mullahs are looking for. ;-)

fish

I confess to being a little surprised the the usual suspect hasn't weighed in with a comment about the impending departure of the jolly Spiceman from Team Trump?!

Especially considering that the president has selected Francisco Scaramanga to serve in a similar role!

Gregory

Scaramucci.
Scaramucci?
Can he do the fandango?

Don Bessee

Fish its hard for a po' ol' fakenewsman to get slammed by Katie Couric on top of the rest of the nations rejection.

It looks he can Gregory based on todays press conf. ;-)

Bill Tozer

Righty tighty, Lefty loosely

"For many women, it was fierce reinforcement of their perception of the Democratic candidate: Clinton wanted to be the first female in the Oval Office, and she is a woman who detests women who don't see the world as she does.

Many liberal women thrive on vulgar language, reveling in "slut walks" and "p*ssyhats," and many conservative women revel in being identified as Clinton's "deplorables." They cheer President Trump's blunt counterpunching, which they see, despite his occasional outbursts of coarseness and ribaldry, as defending their own righteous dignity."

The New Yorker finds the Trump supporters in Grand Junction "more interesting, and more decent than the man who inspires them." Patterson still roots doggedly for the president and his agenda. "The more they hate him, the more I want him to succeed," he says. "Because what they hate about him is what they hate about me."

https://townhall.com/columnists/suzannefields/2017/07/21/the-american-divide-deplorables-vs-pussyhats-n2357725

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery,. no I thank you for your liberal over the top stuff you did that defeated your candidate. And the project did get built later anyway. But you and your limo pals helped put your candidate out of power and a small little gal in. Thanks again.

Trash development? Yes, thanks again. You show your htpocrisy. You live in a dump but a new house for some middle class folks was too much for you limo libs. What a hoot!

Walt

I love it when Cal. LIBS get smacked in the face by a dose of reality.
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/07/21/california-dems-learn-gun-control-easy-pass-hard-implement/

Gregory

The DNC has a new slogan, well crafted and tested:
"A Better Deal: Better Skills, Better Jobs, Better Wages"

That will be tough for the GOP to surpass! (snicker)

Walt

Pappa John's might sue,, Gregory. The DNC can't afford to pay the judgment.

Paul Emery

Second time request from a Nevada County taxpayer

Don Bessee can you share with our readers how much Measure W cost Nevada County taxpayers?

Walt

Good ol' Paul. Comes back with a question as apposed to answering one.

Gregory

Second time request from another Nevada County taxpayer...

Paul, you know how much it cost. How much of my standard tip to the barkeeper of one Dollar (US) (one time only) would have covered my share?

(hint... there are about 100,000 souls living in Nevada County, it cost a reported $70k). Do the math, if you can.

Paul Emery

The Russians are playing Trump like a string toy. Trump the Chump as they like to call him.

MOSCOW — President Donald Trump may have held more meetings with Vladimir Putin at the G-20 summit earlier this month, Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Friday — but he shrugged off the importance of the encounters.

“They might have met even much more than just three times,” he told NBC News’ Keir Simmons in an exclusive interview, dismissing speculation about the leaders' meetings.

Paul Emery

Gregory

Don is the expert here. I want to hear t from him.

Gregory

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Gregory

Paul, I want to hear from you how meaningless your request and claims are. $70k? That wouldn't even pay for a ditchdigger-year with a shovel to prop him or herself up with when hired by the Country Transportation Department.

Is a vote on an item you hold dear really worth that little to you?

Todd Juvinall

Funny how liberals will pour our tax money into the pockets of their pals yet be grudge a democratic free election initiative. Amazing hypocrites of the left.

Gregory

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Gregory

Don is the expert here. I want to hear t from him.

Todd Juvinall

Looks like Paul Emery is the one in need of math help.

Gregory

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Gregory

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Walt

"$70k? That wouldn't even pay for a ditchdigger-year with a shovel to prop him or herself up with when hired by the Country Transportation Department."

That stings dude,,, You could have said it would pay for one central planner the Co. doesn't need. But it would pay for TWO shovel leaners.
(nope,, never seen 70K in one year.)

Gregory

Well, while Paul is deciding how long to pout in silence, I'll take on Kesti's take on calculators.

I think the choice of TI calculators as the gold standard in K-12 education was one of the death knell of "algebraic thinking" in K-12. It didn't even require the button pusher to parse the number statements as they plugged in the numbers, operators and delimiters. Madness.

Now, the HP calculators of the time really did some magic thanks to RPN, reverse Polish notation, which really was a more natural way to use a calculator. Punch in one number, punch in the second number, then press the operation. So, adding 3 and 4 would be:
3 [enter]
4 ]enter] PLUS

I remember buying my first HP ... it took about 20 minutes of working the same gnarly problem in the manual for some fluid dynamics to really grok how the stack really worked. Just any problem at all could be worked without storing an intermediate result... if one looked at the problem to be worked and worked it as you would with pencil and paper and slide rule.

Unfortunately, the folks writing textbooks and choosing textbooks and teaching from textbooks didn't know RPN from their hole in the ground.

Gregory

Walt, that wasn't meant to tar honest and productive private sector ditch diggers, that's ditchdiggers employed by Nevada County, with benefits. It was, after all, Paul Emery who suggested the cost of Measure W meant roads didn't get repaired.

I remember asking a Nevada County road crew flagman, while I was stopped for roadwork under progress on Newtown Road, why the work was being performed by an out of county (maybe even out of state) contractor. The honest answer from the guy...? It would take forever if done by the County crew who didn't work hard and were poorly managed. I did not write down the guy's name, for his protection.

Gregory

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Walt

I know,, I just had to bust your chops on it. "G"..LOL

Mary Wanna

Impatiently waiting for Spicey's tell all book. Should be a classic. Trumpbummer surrounding himself with billionaires,,, and a big f-u to average Americans.

fish

Posted by: Walt | 21 July 2017 at 02:39 PM

I love it when Cal. LIBS get smacked in the face by a dose of reality.


I'm guessing that even when the language is corrected the compliance rate will be nearly nonexistent!

Bill Tozer

Mommie may have dropped Mary on his head and kissed his boo-boo, but Mommie can't fix one:
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1133288506805185/?type=3&theater

fish

Posted by: Mary Wanna | 21 July 2017 at 04:39 PM


Hello chatbot!

fish

Posted by: Gregory | 21 July 2017 at 01:54 PM

Scaramucci.
Scaramucci?
Can he do the fandango?


Yeah.....this was my second choice!

Gregory

"The Russians are playing Trump like a string toy. Trump the Chump as they like to call him" - Paul Emery

Paul, can you cite a single native speaker of Russian using the term "Trump the Chump"? It sounds more like someone hooked on the zombiefied NPR the Car Show with the dead Click and barely alive Clack, the surviving Tappet Brother, who had used "Stump the Chump" for one of their regular featured segments. I was doing an all too random walk between my kid's office at Harvard's chem building just this past Monday when I looked up and saw the well known law office of "Dewey, Cheatham and Howe" sign in downtown Cambridge.

Gregory

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Gregory

"Trump the Chump as they like to call him" - Paul Emery

Paul, I call shenanigans! Fake news, a'gin.

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Paul Emery

I wont do upir research for you Gregory

Trump the Chump, favorite Russian tag while they play him like a puppet.

Bill Tozer

Sounds more like they are playing Fakesnews for a puppet. Pauly want a cracker?

https://patriotpost.us/posts/50291

Gregory

"upir" own arse, Paul.

There is no Russian using that term, is there, fake newsman?

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Walt

Paul's making crap up again. Hell... He doesn't even "research" his own name calling.

Walt

Things get better and better.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/21/co-founder-firm-behind-trump-russia-dossier-to-plead-fifth.html
"Glenn Simpson, whose Fusion GPS firm has been tied to anti-Trump efforts and pro-Russian lobbying, will not talk to lawmakers in response to a subpoena, the leaders of the Senate Judiciary Committe said Friday."
And guess what? Just like any other LIB with his Richard in a vice,,""Simpson’s attorney has asserted that his client will invoke his Fifth Amendment rights in response to the subpoena,"

Bill Tozer

Walt
Boy, talk about running out of arrows in your quiver. He is out of dry powder and this is getting pathetic to watch. Yesterday he was recycling that old hope and change story that the R's would abandon Trump because of his numbers and put Pense in. How many times have they floated that lead balloon? 3-4 times since February. Splash, down the drain with that one. Now today, it's Trump the Chump. Tomorrow it will be "I'm rubber, you're glue. Whatever you say bounces of me and sticks to you." A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Very painful to witness Pauly Parrot revealing his true colors. A sad day for his friends and loved ones. Keep them in your thoughts and maybe send them a few sympathy and 'my condolences' cards.

Ben Emery

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Latest: Chief: No problems with Minneapolis cop's training


"The Latest on the fatal police shooting of an unarmed woman who called 911 to report a possible sexual assault in Minneapolis.

Noor shot and killed 40-year-old Justine Damond when she approached his police vehicle as it arrived behind her house in response to her 911 call. Noor has declined to speak to investigators, but his partner told them he heard a loud sound right before Damond approached."


http://www.winonadailynews.com/news/state-and-regional/mn/the-latest-australian-woman-s-family-hires-castile-attorney/article_43cf7c3b-6aab-5888-85ce-2363fc3d96a9.html

Bill Tozer

Pauly want a cracker, now!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1917744181585691&set=p.1917744181585691&type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1133919620075407/?type=3&theater

Breaking News! Bernie colluding with foreign government!

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1133285050138864/?type=3&theater


Ben Emery

Police Brutality along with Militarization are on the rise.

Our civil liberties are being trampled.

Democrats only care about partisanship as do Republicans.

I am an American who is a civil libertarian first and foremost, our government is out of control of has been for a long time. It is up to us to gain control and fulfill the founders ideals:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed..."

Bill Tozer

Well, now Brother Ben is recycling that old "First they came for.......then they came for..."
Must be a very slow news day or there is some kind of 30's British Academia commemorative dinner going on in these parts.

Quote of the day. "You can lead a liberal to knowlege, but you can't make him think." And yes, I just assumed a liberal's gender. No worries about moi doing the cultural appropriation thing. Raw fish is full of worms. Always a silver lining.

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/890979794385577/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/891045241045699/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/890976734385883/?type=3&theater


Walt

Figure it out Ben, WE the civilized, don't burn down the city when things play out wrong.
A Muslim cop kills a white woman for no reason.(no, I don't buy the published excuse)
But you don't see those who are REALLY peeved over this going around looking for some "payback".
That's the pavement ape Liberal way.

Walt

Bill. Better point out your last one of three to the mathematically challenged Paul.
It might take him a while.

Bill Tozer

Bro Ben:

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1134189356715100/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1134466273354075/?type=3&theater

Yes my brother, I know. I know. You are NOT a liberal. You have made the nuances very clear. But, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck....ah heck, all you asshat Lefty "Democratic" Socialist-Maoists all look the same to me.

Gregory

"Our civil liberties are being trampled"-Master Ben

Name one that's being trampled now more than a year ago, Ben. Personally, with Justice Gorsuch restoring the balance in favor of textualists in the SCOTUS, I feel better already and will feel even better with Kennedy and Ginsberg traded in for an intellectual Scalia/Gorsuch clone. The trend is in the direction of the Bill of Rights, not the Bill of Entitlements.

Bill Tozer

I know, I know. Brother Ben is not a Democrat either. Maybe he just caucuses with the Dems or The Bernie Bros, or the Alt-Left or Antifa, or whatever his Jill Stein party calls itself.
Think Regean said if facism ever comes here, it will arrive in the form of liberalism. Whatever. They all look alike to me. Never turn your back to them....unless your wallet is in your front pocket.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1133966943404008/?type=3&theater

In other news concerning the Socialist Paradise found only in one's imagination, those poor poor Venezuelan women are really taking it in the shorts. No food, no medicine, and toilet paper is worth more that their currency...if you can find TP. The Army is raiding girl's schools and commandeering toilet paper cause they ran out as well. Must be a national security issue. But even worse, the Venezuelan ladies have run out of shampoo and nail polish. Momma ain't happy.

Bernie sang Venezuela's praises just three short years ago. Repeatedly. Not only is the Socialist Paradise screwing the Venezuelan workers, now the Colombians are also screwing the Venezuelan workers. It's so unfair. Call the UN!

https://www.economist.com/news/americas/21725351-women-fleeing-poverty-get-right-work-prostitutes-venezuelans-sell-sex-colombia

Bill Tozer

Get this. The dude has a degree in political economy from Evergreen State College, ROFLMAO.

A native of Nevada County, Phillips has a bachelor's degree in political economy from Evergreen State College.......

http://www.theunion.com/news/local-news/nevada-county-names-its-new-housing-resource-manager/

Ben Emery

Just because 45 is in office doesn't mean the NSA spying program, Patriot Act, NDAA, etc... are not in full swing.

I would say police brutality and excessive force are violations of our civil liberties, wouldn't you?

https://www.aclu.org/video/minnesota-officer-assaults-motorist

For driving aggressively?

Paul Emery

Gregory

70 k? Remember it's paid for by other peoples money right? Measure W was a stupid waste of taxpayers money.

Why has Bessee disappeared ? Doesn't want to take responsibility for his folly.

Paul Emery

Gregory

Check this out from the Director of the CIA. Still stand by your contention that there is no evidence of Russian meddling?

"I am confident that the Russians meddled in this election, as is the entire intelligence community," Pompeo said.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

re: Paul Emery@1:25AM

As usual, a bit of selective editing is the M.O. of the newswarrior. Aren't you even a little bit embarrassed?

A more full quote:

"At the Aspen Security Forum in Colorado, Pompeo was asked whether he supports the findings of U.S. intelligence agencies that Russia interfered in the 2016 election.

“Of course,” he replied. “And the one before that, and the one before that.”…

“I am confident that the Russians meddled in this election, as is the entire intelligence community,” "

ie. there's nothing new here, and any reasonably intelligent observer would think of it as business as usual. All nations 'interfere' (ie. look after their best interests) in each others elections. Heck, most of it is even legal.

Dude, if you are going to carry water for the CIA, at least do a better job. Your Best Friends Forever have a lot of blood on their hands in their own election meddling, so while the pearl clutching is noted, it's not of much concern.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

re: Ben Emery@12:00AM

"Just because 45 is in office doesn't mean the NSA spying program, Patriot Act, NDAA, etc... are not in full swing."

Absolutely. Of the two Emery Brothers, this seems like a more realistic general philosophy.

Personally, I don't think that Trump has the ability to bring down the National Surveillance State. It's not just a matter of political oomph. His interest in enforcing national borders has caused 1/2 of the country to think of him as the Anti-Christ, defacto open borders being their primary credo. But, the levers of power have moved over time I think. The voters have been largely written out of the script.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

...just to finish up the quote from Pompeo.

Pompeo said, appearing agitated at the skepticism towards his previous answer. “I hope I didn’t stop at 2008 [for when he says Russian began interfering in U.S. elections]. You can go back to the 70s. My point was simply this: This threat is real. The U.S. government, including the Central Intelligence Agency, has to figure out a way to fight back against it and defeat it. And we’re intent upon doing that.”

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You really do have to admire this Russian thing as a brilliant construct. Something that is pervasive and always existed, and can always be found (ie. lunch with a Russian ambassador or watching RT is now 'meddling'), is a powerful political tool for bringing down an administration. Given an economic downturn, it might even work.

Of course, it's just a cover for the real reasons for Trumphate. Given that a lot of his policy decisions are merely Republican (like the health insurance screwups, with no ready answers in any case) or even anti-Republican (aggressive trade policies, including the possibility of tariffs), what we are left with are borders.

I maintain that this last is the defining strong difference between so-called Left and Right in this era. Choose yer side.

fish

Concise and moderately facetious.....well OK not so facetious in America 2017.....synopsis of le affaire Somali Cop Plus bonus alternate reality scenario from Sailer!


"Mayor of Minneapolis fires white (and Canadian Amerindian) lesbian police chief after Somali diversity hire shoots yoga lady, replaces her with black guy with inscrutable name Medaria Arradondo (huh? What happened to Minnesotans named Svenson? Have I been lied to by Prairie Home Companion all these years?), African American hecklers get in mayor’s face, drive her from conference room.

In alternative universe, President Hillary Clinton and Attorney General Michelle Alexander try to scratch each other’s eyes out over whose side Justice Department will be on in Minneapolis fiasco.

Minnesota … where all the children are not so above average anymore."


Hey.....at least all the right boxes are checked!


http://www.unz.com/isteve/more-multiculti-merriment-in-minneapolis/

fish

....synopsis of le affaire Somali Cop

Not so much a synopsis of the incident itself but the post fiasco politics.

My bad!

Todd Juvinall

I listened to that Mayor babe and what a PC crock of sh** she was spewing. here did all those German milk maids go? And when she was shouted down by the mob, I thoight to myself, see what happens to you PC good intentions., Hire those people who don't yet have a stake in the country and it's laws. And this is what happens. Minnesota had Jesse Ventura and has the SNL idiot as their Senator. Talk about self-imposed injury.

Todd Juvinall

In response to the LIBs on the Russia thing.

Of course we do not want any nation to "meddle" in our elections. Luckily for us our election was not affected. But the Russian thing has yet to provide a iota of fact but that is not stopping the lamestream media and the libs from thinking they have a way to oust Trump. Not going to happen.


Even today the SACBEE had two articles on this Russian thing. And the media believes the Russian Ambassador that he communicated a conversation to his bosses. He said he had talked with Sessions when he was a Senator. And how did that get leaked? And why would the press believe the Russian over Sessions? Sounds like a setup to me. And a illegal “unmasking” as well.

The second was a article on DJT JR and the meeting in Trump Tower. Even though the Russian lawyer said she was not there representing the Russian government, the "journalist" wrote she was there for the Kremlin. That is why Americans are fed up with the press and this issue. Liars never prosper and this is a big nothing.

Russ

Ooops The Left's NO Voter Fraud Meme is Slipping Away

As the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity convenes its first meeting on Wednesday, the issue of voter fraud in American elections has become even more contentious and hyperbolic.

One of the left’s main arguments against reform is that voter fraud simply does not occur. How liberals arrive at this conclusion, we cannot say.

Time and again, studies and analyses point to one incontrovertible conclusion: that voter fraud is a real and pressing issue that deserves serious solutions, and The Heritage Foundation has the evidence to prove it.

On Thursday, The Heritage Foundation is releasing a new edition of its voter fraud database. Featuring well over 100 new cases, the database documents 1,071 instances of voter fraud spanning 47 states, including 938 criminal convictions.

http://dailysignal.com/2017/07/20/voter-fraud-database-tops-1000-proven-cases/

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