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29 July 2017

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Bunny

Scaramoochi has been so busy fellating himself Bannon style that his wife just canned him! Thanks Mooch for setting an example for America's children to follow.

Bunny

“Stop listening to the bombastic loudmouths on the radio and television and the internet – to hell with them. They don’t want anything done for the public good." Republican Senator and POW war hero John McCain July 25, 2017

Senator, you can't mean Limbaugh, Jones, Bannon, Hannity, Tucker and the rest can you?

Bunny

...or, did you mean Trump?

Bill Tozer

Bunny, the divorce rates in our country are quite high and high across the board in all vocations, demographics, and locales. Well, don't know about the Amish. That was a weak argument. It's for our children? ROFLMAO. Try again. Oh, the new name for The Mooch is The Plumber. Kill all the leakers!

Steve has a good point on the now closed Sandbox:
. The system was designed to be a slow deliberative process. No rushing into things that have lasting consequences. There are consequences for everything, good, bad, ugly, and indifferent.
The silver lining I see with all this obstruction and games being played because of Resist! and Trump-Russia Derangement Syndrome is that finally the legislative branch is reclaiming its constitutional duty (powers) that they have unconscionably absconded (surrendered) to the Executive Branch, as evidenced by the last eight years. Sure, Congress tries to overreach its authority and limitations at times, but even more egregious is Congress's failure to abide by its Constitution mandates by stepping aside and kicking its job to the Executive Branch. And yes, the courts overreach by setting policy instead of ruling whether something is constitutional, yes or no.

It's a two edged sword and the pendulum swings both ways. A longer view is in order.
Now, these rules in the Senate are something else, I will give you that. Whatever rules and parliamentary procedures members of the Senate scheme and dream up can all be undone. The longer view is what is important, not the passing passions of the moment. Passing passions are like polls, being just a snapshot of one moment in time. Remember when the Pet Rock was all the rage one Christmas? Remember streaking? Remember the Cabbage Patch dolls that caused fisticuffs in retail stores when the supplies ran out? Passing passions. We have a roadmap. It's called the Constitution. It works fine when each branch stays within its mandated limitations and no branch is delelict in its duties and responsibilities.

Steve Frisch

Posted by: Barry Pruett | 29 July 2017 at 08:48 AM
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 July 2017 at 08:40 AM


Yet another example of the descent into chaos that is the hallmark of the populist strategy for turning measured governance into the war of all against all.

I can almost guarantee that you guys will be seeking to re-instate the filibuster as soon as 2021 when the wheel turns in the Senate.

American governance is based on the theory that the separation of powers, a bi-cameral legislature, the appropriate check of the courts, and self imposed rules to intentionally slow decisions to secure deliberative processes, protect us from ....well....you :)

Posted by: Steve Frisch | 29 July 2017 at 08:59 AM

Steve Frisch

"Steve Frisch | 29 July 2017 at 08:59 AM

You apparently don't understand the Senate filibuster is a "rule", not a law. And since the R's are in the majority you can be certain we want to have that changed. That is the reason it is a rule and the forefathers did not place thatt in the Constitution. So once again you have no clue but sure can bloviate.

Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 July 2017 at 09:16 AM"

Hey Todd, did you miss the word "rule" in my post?

You are so astonishingly either dim or a disingenuous that it makes you the perfect companion for your King Donald or his new mini-me the Mooch.


Bill Tozer

Can't please the unhinged Leftists. They bitch and bitch because the WH is in chaos, then they bitch even louder when The General and The Plumber are called in to restore order. Both scenarios give them something to do the mental masturbation thang again and again until they blow a fuse. I have never seen such a meltdown in 30 years!

When the Trump Administration gets its act together, most of the Left will go blind.

Steve Frisch

“Paul, I never condemner the use of the filibuster, where did you come up with that?”
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 06 February 2011 at 01:16 PM


“Watching Ted Cruz and others filibuster up until noon was wonderful”
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 25 September 2013 at 09:52 AM


Todd Juvinall

Steve Frisch | 29 July 2017 at 09:59 AM

Apparently you are as smart as Hillary. The definition you use for a "rule" is the point. But being the dolt you are you are more interested in demeaning your betters. Trump is doing just fine and all you commie libs and RINO's just don't get it. Which works for me.

And rather than dim I am known as a bright light for freedom and reality here in Nevada County. But you can be jealous, that is no biggie.

Todd Juvinall

I changed my mind Stevie. Just like your heroes Obama and Hillary when they were against homosexuals marrying and then they were for it. I have seen the country go equally represented and the filibuster is archaic. But thanks for taking the time to see my opinion from 2011. Good work.

Bill Tozer

Sept. 25, 2013? Really, Steve, you can do better than dat. I like Green Eggs and Ham.

If Ted Cruz won the race to the WH, the same thing Trump is experiencing would be happening, but worse. The Dems hated Cruz, but the RINOS really really hated Cruz even more. Much more. More than Trump Just imagine if Ben Carson won. Oh, it would be like fingernails on the chalkboard to Bunny and the rest of the anti-religious bigots every time Dr. Carson opens his mouth and says something like "I already won the lottery. I know the Lord and wake up each morning living in America,". Imagine how the Buttercups would react! The melting snowflakes would cause raging torrents of water flooding our coastlines. Trump Degrangement Syndrome would pale in comparison to Carson Derangement Syndrome, or Cruz Derangement Syndrome.

Opps. Correction. The Left does like one religion. Islam. It just gets them all gooey and melts their hearts when they think of gays being tossed off rooftops, female genital multation, Shia Law, and a theocracy whose sole purpose is to expand by subduing all cultures, counties, and ethnicities to its will....by conquest. Rape is just a tool of conquest. Anything is better than the Judaeo-Christian tradition of the fascist Western Civilzation. Anything! Oh, athetesis and agnostics will have to submit to our peace lubbing Stone Age brethren, followers of the pedophile prophet. They be the good religion, the only religion to have been granted favor by our friends across the aisle

The left can't hide its anti-business bent, neither can it hide its anti-religious furor...with the exception being Islam. The left and Islam share similar goals of world wide domination. No thanks, I will keep using toilet paper instead.


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Steven Frisch

Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 July 2017 at 10:13 AM

Nevertheless your original contention that I did not reference the "rule" was demonstrably incorrect Todd. But people are kind of used to you being inconsistent and false....it is your "brand".

The thing the never ceases to amaze me is that the same 6-8 people can blather on about the same old stuff for years on end. I just drop by once in a while to laugh my ass off.

Bill Tozer

Divorce! Scandal! Divorce! Trump is amazing. Is there anything he cannot do?

"Deidre has left him and has filed for divorce," one source told The Post. "She liked the nice Wall Street life and their home on Long Island, not the insane world of DC. She is tired of his naked ambition, which is so enormous that it left her at her wits' end," the source said, according to the gossip publication. "She has left him even though they have two children together."

"Deidre is not a fan of Trump, and she hasn’t exactly been on board and supportive of Anthony and his push to get ... into the White House," another source said. "Anthony is focusing on his children, his work for the president and the American people. There is nothing more important to him."

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/anthony-scaramuccis-wife-reportedly-filed-221347494.html

In related matters of the powers of Trump, another family is torn asunder. Did read a few articles that the Lefty Loosey women have closed their legs since the election. "Not tonight dear, I have a big Trumpache.

http://nypost.com/2017/07/27/socialite-couple-announces-trump-divorce-in-press-release/

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fights-over-trump-drive-couples-especially-millennials-to-split-up/article/2622400

Is there anything the Emperor God cannot do? Amazing.

Todd Juvinall

Steven Frisch | 29 July 2017 at 10:57 AM

We appreciate you stopping by so we can see what we all here knows is a humorous and dopey man. Thanks again. Your brand is of a self-important bloviator usually posting page after page of blather. But hey, we like a foil from the commie left to make fun of.

Steven Frisch

Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 July 2017 at 11:09 AM

My point Todd was that in 2011 the filibuster was just fine with you, now it's not, and the next time the Democrats control the Senate it will be fine with you again. You are a chameleon. Does anyone here really doubt that?

Barry Pruett

Steve: My frustration with the filibuster rule is that nothing is getting done. Congress is at a stand still. Folks have real concerns and elected Trump to change the way things are done in Washington. You can't change the way things are done without...well...changing the way things are done. The democrats and republicans have already rightfully adjusted the filibuster in connection with judicial appointments as I have advocated before. The President has the appointment power with a majority of the Senate per the Constitution. The filibuster abrogates that power. Reid and McConnell were right to change it. As far as the Senate turning Democrat in 2021 that will be tough as democrats will likely lose a net two or three seats in 2018 giving republicans a 55-seat majority. As far as congress goes Republicans will remain in control until 2023 minimum. The real issue will be can republicans hold the state legislatures through 2021 as that will dictate who controls congress for the next decade which is why Obama and holder are working on flipping legislatures so democrats can redraw congressional lines. Interesting times for sure. I always enjoy your point of view. Adds variety here!

Todd Juvinall

Oh Stevie, if anyone here is a chameleon it is you. I am totally transparent. You are a lefty hypocrite without credibility on most issues. But hey, we all know that.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

"American governance is based on the theory that the separation of powers"

Nice theory. In practice, a competition between plutocrats. I can't say that a one-party system is much better given the example called 'California'. I suppose all that happens is that you end up with a multi-party system based on special interests (large companies, public employee unions, Green Libertarian activists, illegal aliens plus the greater Latino community, a few gun enthusiasts).

It seems to me that Committee for Public Safety, or whatever the variant is in modern days, normally suffer from similar delusions. That you can always 'fix' problems by forcing people to do things not in their own interest (especially in a diverse country), that the fixes can be done all at once via some be-all legislation, and that every problem can be fixed by government. It sure is fun to try, though. Nice dinners, good seats on the plane, lots of holding of the talking stick.

Of course, there's always Russia to worry about, so it's time to concentrate on that a bit.

Barry Pruett

And don't think for a second now that the filibuster has been abrogated in connection with judicial appointments that the Democrats would not do the same thing if the roles were reversed. You gotta hand it to the Democrats. They play for keeps. Elected Republicans are a little weak in taking on the establishment.

Bill Tozer

The week in review...plus more crazy media misses

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/07/29/liberal-news-outlets-work-overtime-to-hide-huge-democratic-scandal-and-more-crazy-media-misses-this-week.html

Steve Frisch

Posted by: ScenesFromTheApocalypse | 29 July 2017 at 11:26 AM

Sorry Scenes. I must insist that you use the full statement....it is not separation of powers alone...it is also the institutional mechanisms built into the system that make it work.

"American governance is based on the theory that the separation of powers, a bi-cameral legislature, the appropriate check of the courts, and self imposed rules to intentionally slow decisions to secure deliberative processes, protect us from ....well....you :)"

Tear the institutional support for checks and balanced out and you weaken the system...and end up with a committee of public safety....which I am pretty convinced is precisely what Bannon and his dupe Trump want to do.

Bannon said it clearly...he is a Leninist....in that he does not want reform, etc....he wants to tear the system out at its roots and start over.

That is why I absolutely believe that those who support his vision consciously are traitors....and those who spout it without thinking because they are incapable or original thinking, like our friend Todd....are simply 'useful idiots.'

Steve Frisch

Posted by: Barry Pruett | 29 July 2017 at 11:22 AM
"Steve: My frustration with the filibuster rule is that nothing is getting done."

Perhaps instead of getting things done by rolling over each other people should start learning to get things done by collaborating with each other. That is how we used to do it...partly because our institutions forced us to.

The argument over 'who started it' is increasingly less relevant as we approach a meltdown.

Sure, we could do a meltdown....I see many here cheering for it...but as I tell everyone, left or right, be careful what you wish for, the Sans-culottes must have been shocked when the Jacobins sent them to the guillotine

Gregory

Barry P 1127

IIRC, Harry Reid said as much before the November election. Oh, what a world that would be in place come January! Man, the GOP will not know what hit them... they'll be sorry they didn't accept the moderate democrat Garland after they see who [I'm With] Her nominates and Schumer gets a confirmed. Happy days will here again!

Yes, the GOP is not very skilled at cracking the whip, getting all their ducks in a row and keeping them there... it's the Democrats who know they won't get reelected or get the crumbs for their particular narrow constituency if they don't do as they're told. And then the GOP elected the amateur hour into the White House, why I've been railing against the "what we need is a neophyte politician with business experience to win the presidency, governorship, dog catcher, etc". Well, this is what you get.

Either Trump & Co. will figure out enough to move forward before their time and power runs out or they won't. One thing is clear... the Russian Collusion story is running out of time, the Paki IT story is rising, and the inconvenient truth is that a coming grand solar minimum is not conducive to keeping the AGW alarm at a high pitch... how you gonna keep 'em down in LA paying through the nose for gasoline once they've seen the power of the cold side?

Herding cats is a special talent. Pelosi and Reid were more like Siegfried and Roy. The GOP are more like these guys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTwJzTsb2QQ


Barry Pruett

I don't know how changing the system equates to traitor?! Changing the system inside the bounds of the constitution seems healthy occasionally. Roosevelt changed the system. Reagan to a lesser extent changed the system. Lincoln certainly changed the system. I don't think that equates to being a traitor. When it's broke you fix it. Washington is broken. The voters finally elected an outsider (they thought Obama was but he definitely was not). In fact I am pretty sure we'd be talking about President Sanders if Clinton and the DNC had not collided against him. He got jobbed by the establishment. Folks want something different than the past 30 years of endless deficits and debt and were go to vote for anyone who was not establishment. Sanders, Carson, Cruz, Fiorina, Trump. Anybody. Trump was elected as a giant middle finger to Washington and Washington is fighting back. Anyway time to uproot the system and create a better new one.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

"Bannon said it clearly...he is a Leninist....in that he does not want reform, etc....he wants to tear the system out at its roots and start over."

While he said it, I doubt that he knows what it means (or perhaps doesn't care). I can't say that tearing down a system equates to instituting Bolshevik (or Menshevik) rule. If a large part of his push is ethnonationalism, I won't say that it's directly opposed to Marxism, but it's darned close. A good run through on that subject might be Walker Connor's (who just died, interestingly enough) book on that very subject. My own guess is that he favors the primacy of culture over law, the two always being in some sort of simultaneous tension and cooperation.

I think what is left out of this notion of control loops in rule is the very English concept of the importance of lawsuits. The greater the scope of the government (or a corporation for that matter, government being the largest example of that sort of organization), the less valuable the court systems are when the state is the opponent. The state becomes manager rather than referee.

Personally, I think it's too late to tear the system down. We've gone over the precipice where the system itself is in control, regardless of the occasional populist President. The Surveillance-Industrial state is now making it's appearance more known and has found plenty of useful idiots in the population at large. I can't blame them, give me the keys to Bluffdale and I expect I'd be using it to further policy goals. It's for The People after all.

Walt

Now don't forget that "deem and pass" crap the LIBs came up with.

Gregory

Frisch 1132

"as I tell everyone, left or right, be careful what you wish for, the Sans-culottes must have been shocked when the Jacobins sent them to the guillotine"

The folks who are trying to disarm the sans-culottes of America today are arguably the would-be Jacobins, Steven, and I don't think those sans-culottes would be terribly shocked at all. I personally heard a number of wanna-be Jacobins telling me (and everyone in earshot) what they'd do after "Her" won to solidify power and the intellectual bigotry was astounding.

My dread of those Assholes Gone Wild! curiously wound down when I heard the NPR commentators being worried about the early returns.

Bunny

SFTA(1:10pm) "Bannon said it clearly...he is a Leninist....in that he does not want reform, etc....he wants to tear the system out at its roots and start over."

That is just Bannon self fellating himself

The Bombastic one is on a roll and had to be spanked by law enforcement,

“This is the bedrock principle behind the concepts of procedural justice and police legitimacy,” the IAPC wrote.

Managing use of force is one of the most difficult challenges faced by law enforcement agencies. The ability of law enforcement officers to enforce the law, protect the public, and guard their own safety, the safety of innocent bystanders, and even those suspected or apprehended for criminal activity is very challenging. For these reasons, law enforcement agencies develop policies and procedures, as well as conduct extensive training, to ensure that any use of force is carefully applied and objectively reasonable considering the situation confronted by the officers. Law enforcement officers are trained to treat all individuals, whether they are a complainant, suspect, or defendant, with dignity and respect. This is the bedrock principle behind the concepts of procedural justice and police legitimacy.
While speaking at a community college in Long Island about the administration’s efforts to take on immigrant gangs, Trump joked that officers should be rougher with suspects and suggested letting them hit their heads on police cars.

“When you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddy wagon, you just see them thrown in, rough, and I said, ‘Please don’t be too nice,’” Trump said.

Walt

Sorry "bun", criminals have it too easy as it is. Thank the PC crowd for that.
Then we have the likes of Ca. that reduce the penalties of crime. Steal a gun worth less than 800 bucks, you don't even go to jail. Yup,, that being tough on crime.

Gregory

Bunny 218om, I'd usually accept you as an expert on self fellatio but the Bannon quote on his metaphorical Leninist streak wasn't.

And while Trump was testing the boundaries of propriety (so what else is new?) there really is something to the issue of LEA being too nice in the context of gangs (like MS-13) in the business of drug importation and distribution. But that was virtue signaling to law abiding voters, not a command to LEA to actually beat people up.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

A not bad rundown on the current chink in the Green Libertarian armor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKzzyOsvajc

Members of Team Blue,don't bother. You won't believe a bit of it anyway.

Gregory

Seventy minutes of a talking head droning on is more than I can take, Scenes. Yes, I suspect there is more than just smoke coming from the Paki IT family fires, but that sort of presentation won't be the way to get to the bottom of it.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

His list for the first few minutes actually had value I think, a written version would have been easier to take. I actually learned a few things.

Twizzling through the details of something like this is kind of a slog, and you can either ignore it all (a reasonable thing), trust an expert, or try to understand it. Not unlike climate.

The important part, of course, is what can be sold to the public. I see that RT has picked up the story and is really working it.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

Looking at that, and there's a lot of work there, he could stand to make the Powerpoint-esque text available as a download.

I did like one response:

"Where's the 17 Intel agencies when you need them!?"

Bill Tozer

Deported 20 times
http://www.kgw.com/news/woman-65-in-ne-portland-reports-sex-assault-break-in-and-car-burglary/459231264

To mix things up, about a quote from the last paragraph. That way you know how the story ends.

Average people agree that we should be good stewards of our lands and resources. Average people refer to climate change as the weather and seem to recall teachings from grade school that the Ice Age and other dramatic changes of climate occurred before the combustible engine. Average people tend to agree with President Ronald Reagan: “The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.”

https://patriotpost.us/articles/50349

Don Bessee

It is fun to see Trump tell congress he is going to end their 0 care exemptions and stop paying subsidies to the ins. companies. If you cant kill it off right away at least you can starve it and let congress feel our pain. ;-)

fish

Posted by: Bunny | 29 July 2017 at 02:18 PM


Gee Bunny....err.....umm....Michael maybe if you just worked on your flexibility a bit you could indulge this obsession of yours.

Can't get anybody to do it for you?


Todd Juvinall

Too short

fish

On a brighter note....(Bunnys difficulties notwithstanding).... glad to get back to see things just they were when I left!

You also may be interested to know that there are a fair number of creatures that when pulled from the Gulf of Mexico with line and hook look very much like a former Union editor of your acquaintance....Editorialis Formeris...a member of the Grouper family I believe.

Bill Tozer

Don. Yep, let Obamacare linger on as written. When the pain gets too much, people will demand to fix or replace the monstrosity that McCain now defends. He should have had the brain tumor removed first, then voted. He is toast, literally, politically, and figuratively.

You like Obamacare, you can have it. Don, did you read the gov report that revealed if the individual mandate was removed, 20 million folks would bail on Obamacare in a heartbeat. Most folks are good law abiding citizens, so the only reason they have Obamacare is because it's against the law not to have it, lol. Nevermind the penalties for not having Obamacare are toothless, especially for those who are not required to file a tax return....like students and those living in subterranean basements. Well, remove the individual mandate in a dying individual insurance market and you will see just how wildly popular it is. Folks vote with their feet and wallets...or at the end of a gun barrel.

You like it, you keep it. Happy now? Yo Boardman, you better be happy now. You can calm down now and quit fretting.
Repost:
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/891361401014083/?type=3&theater

Hmmm. Wonder if this what Fish meant by tin foil Depends. I won't have to read it to find out what's in it. I can smell it from here.

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/894641850686038/?type=3&theater

fish

You know what would be really refreshing.......a presidential popularity poll.....haven't had one of those for a while!


Walt

Well well. Our own Fish is atop the aquatic food chain these days.
May I suggest Apple and Maple wood to smoke that critter?(more apple than maple)

fish

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 29 July 2017 at 05:41 PM


Fo Miz Nancy?


Tinfoil Depends™ at minimum......Kevlar might be better!

fish

Posted by: Walt | 29 July 2017 at 05:45 PM


Good F'ing luck getting them home on the airplane! We enjoyed them there....which was just fine!

Walt

Who said LIBs are going to take back what? Not like this you ain't.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/07/29/poll-kid-rock-takes-massive-lead-michigan-dem-stabenow-gop-primary-rivals/


ScenesFromTheApocalypse

I just ran into this statement:

"The Census Bureau includes undocumented, or illegal, immigrants when apportioning the United States' 435 congressional districts, where each congressional district elects a representative to the House, by population."

on

http://pluralvote.com/article/undocumented-immigration-apportionment/

Sketchy looking web page, but is that a true statement?

Don Bessee

Yes @ 620 unfortunately. ;-)

Paul Emery

Sorry fish I neglicted my duties. Pretty much the same polling. trump down 15.9. Historic lows nearing his low point No good news here for the Trumpers

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

Don Bessee

Thanks Fish. ;-(

Bill Tozer

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/894055140744709/?type=3&theater

Bill Tozer

Todd @ 5:31 pm

"Too short." Aha! The plot thickens. The dirty scoundrel who stole Kenny's bike is a SHORT heavyset dirty man. Come on Bunny, return the bike you yellowed bellied buchwacking slithering varmit. Besides, you can't even reach the pedals when sitting on the bicycle seat, which is why all the various witness saw you pushing Kenny's bike. Mark the Tape!!

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.254420818025296.63999.217926015008110/1140187112781991/?type=3&theater

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Healthcare:

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1139004556233580/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1139004286233607/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1139258866208149/?type=3&theater

Don Bessee

What no Russian dressing? ;-)

Bill Tozer

Guess they just don't make them like they used to.

https://heatst.com/life/lazy-woman-calls-out-mountain-rescue-service-asking-for-a-ride-down-because-she-was-tired/?mod=sm_fb_post

Thanks for your service, ma'am.

https://www.facebook.com/DisgruntledVets/photos/a.316073158542820.1073741828.316012375215565/844718719011592/?type=3&theater

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

Good morning.

Sounds like we need more breathless Green Libertarian reporting on the evils of Russia.

https://archive.fo/7ifQV

Hopefully our local Team Blue pundits are on the conference call.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/dick-morris-obama-operating-secret-war-room-two-miles-wh-destroy-potus-trump-video/

...and, of course, the real story from the election is now cranking up.

https://archive.fo/QhglQ

Bill Tozer

Guess we just see things differently.

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/895540613929495/?type=3&theater

In other non-news, which way to turn? Obama unmasking hundreds of civilians that were close to Trump (or possibly MIGHT advise his campaign on a further date), Samantha Powers, Susan Dirty Rice, Debbie Whatzername, Golden Shower connections to the DNC and My Gal, Chucky being told by Intel there is no Russian connection yet announcing the exact opposite, and on and on it goes. Too many to choose from, too little time. Ok, how about one from last week.

http://truthfeed.com/bombshell-report-crooked-mueller-tied-to-crooked-hillarys-schemes/96096/

fish

Posted by: ScenesFromTheApocalypse | 30 July 2017 at 05:47 AM


Is this a thing....? Where the crazy spinster aunt moves in and just stays forever? I really hope that Van Jones sends Glenn Beck a Christmas Card every year for blowing his cover and sparing him the horror of being Vals "boy toy"!

#shudder


Scenery

Truthfeed.com and InfoWars are hysterical because the head of the FBI delivered a sample of uranium to Russia at the request of the Secretary of State? Another wish sandwich moment.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

re: Fish@8:10AM

Hey, it's an out-of-power elite. They'll do absolutely *anything* to get back the reins of power. It's so deeply ingrained in human behavior that there's no point in being surprised or angry about it.

I do wish that this wasn't the case, though:

"Obama’s goal, according to a close family friend, is to oust Trump from the presidency either by forcing his resignation or through his impeachment."

It's really bad form for an ex-President to seek the overthrow of a current one. I've never cared for Obama one way or the other, he simply strikes me as a highly ambitious man with an extreme ability to read a prepared text (like a news anchor), but this sort of thing is just plain dangerous. The primary point of a system of elections is not so much to apply the public's will, but to reasonably deal with the age-old problem of succession. If true, Obama's new hobby is playing with fire.

Todd Juvinall

I am sure the libs will attack this.

http://sierradragonsbreathe.blogspot.com/2017/07/white-privledge-nope-but-journalists.html

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

re: Scenery@11:42

Infowars hysterical? Say it ain't so, Joe.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/alexjonesmegaphone.jpg

The wikileaks hysterical version:

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/891431096688271365

You do have to admit that it's quite odd that the Secretary of State is having the FBI director deliver uranium to the Russkies. I mean, really. What in the heck is going on there? If anyone has a good link explaining that bit of magic, I'd like to see it.

Bill Tozer

Scenes @ 12:35 pm.

Yes indeed. What the heck is our Sec of State doing ordering enriched uranium sent to the Kremlin boys. Was it for a taste test? Imagine if T Rex sent Putin's boys some yellow cake as a birthday present, via one of the Comey's butt boys or a Justice Department lawyer.? Boy, that would really get nobody upset. Not even raise an eyebrow. At least Slick Willy raked in a cool half million for a twenty minutes speech on the proper way to moisten a cigar.

Shoot the messenger!! Boy, we used have a real dickhead that posted here right up to the election that always scoffed and discredited Righty news sites. Always. He sure had constipation of the brain and diarrhea of the mouth. Heard he always wears collared shirts and a tie when possible to hide the foreskin. See ya at 3 Forks! Mark the tape!

Welcome back, my brother from a Turkish mother. Did you and bro-in-law leave as good friends? Nothing to see here....."administrative error", eh? Still hating on Ambassodor Stevens, or loving on him cause dead men cannot testify? No matter.

Bill Tozer

Mr. Todd @ 12:24 pm.

No worries. Race is just a social construct anyways. Today you can be anybody or any color of the rainbow you wish...plus 50 shades of boneless brown.

The real issue is poor ole Trump not only has to put America first, he is the only one defending Westetn Civilization. A heavy burden to bear. Ok, Nigel is in his corner and they see eye to eye. Good thing the Deplorables and some off the reservation Irredeemable Savages lift his spirits.

Look at Sweden. The liberals there do not want their culture, their history, their language, or their borders. Neither do they want economic refugees to assilulate nor seek and obtain employment. Nah. They desire a whole new culture, a brand new civilization. Y-T is the old civilization, the old Europe. They long for a whole new shebang. Not a Muslim culture, but a global culture. Nations are soooo out of date and out of touch. In with the new, out with the bad, bad, bad old.

Ain't no different here. The Soroses of the world and their American puppets want no borders, no nations, no Westetn Civilization cultures or reminders. The enemy is Y-T, especially straight white old males, grumpy as Bernie Sanders, and....you know...the kind that cling to their old time religion, run Old Glory up on the flagpole on the Fourth of July and lovingly polish Grannie's 1934 10 gauge Chicago Prison Riot shotgun, double barreled. Yep, pathetic inbreds holding on to those quaint Midwestern values. And don't get me started on those hillbilly Southerners. They stand in the way of process and oppose the smooth transition into the Brave New World of peace and equality for all.

Uh...er....pssst, Todd. You forgot to check your White Privelge at the door. You just don't get it, do you Todd. The whole country is your safe place. Try to be more understanding of those who see things differently and have chicken squat for brains. :)

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/895781907238699/?type=3&theater

http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/safe-space-created

http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/like-stupid-white-liberal

Darn them Southerners. The South would be a nice place if we got rid Y-T

http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/major-liberal-outlet-wishes-for-ethnic-cleansing-south


ScenesFromTheApocalypse

re: BillT

At least BBC has it straight on the appearance of Roman Britain.

https://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/270717family.jpg

Maybe they just got back from the halal butcher in time to cook up a traditional English meal.

Scenery

(S/NF) Background: Over two years ago Russia requested a ten-gram sample of highly enriched uranium (HEU) seized in early 2006 in Georgia during a nuclear smuggling sting operation involving one Russian national and several Georgian accomplices. The seized HEU was transferred to U.S. custody and is being held at a secure DOE facility. In response to the Russian request, the Georgian Government authorized the United States to share a sample of the material with the Russians for forensic analysis. Director Mueller previously planned to deliver the sample in April (Ref A), but due to a scheduling conflict the trip was canceled. Embassy Moscow LegAtt informed the FSB prior to Mueller’s intended April delivery and received confirmation that the FSB would take custody of the sample after the Director’s plane landed. EST Moscow also informed Rosatom of the planned transfer and that the U.S. placed a high priority on completing this transfer (Ref B). Once the LegAtt told FSB counterparts the April trip had been canceled, Ambassador Beyrle informed Igor Neverov (Ref C), who said that he understood but was disappointed the trip was postponed. The September 21 visit provides again an opportunity to deliver the requested ten-gram sample from the seized HEU in order to obtain cooperation from the GOR on this nuclear smuggling case and to eventually establish a more productive mechanism of U.S.-Russian cooperation on nuclear forensics.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

aha. a more full version:

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09STATE38943_a.html

My guess is that the hoi polloi are confusing that situation with this one:

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

Since Her Nibs isn't President, it's oldnews(tm), but I'll post for the sake of completeness.

Bill the Tozer

Scenes from the APOCALYPSE: Oh what a web we weave when at first we endeavor to deceive.....believed to be penned by some English white dude named William something. Classic case of White Privilege, thus his proseus not to be read in English Lit.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

A quick observation.

I just spent a few minutes looking at the larger Team Blue news organizations. CNN, NYT, MSNBC, etc. The giant Reddit politics forum. The Trump/Russia collusion story is gone. Bam. The silence at the end of a storm. I'm not seeing a word out there.

There's some sort of lesson here, but I don't expect our local newswarriors to understand a bit of it. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

A new ginned up controversy is on it's way. Bet on it.

Bill Tozer

Scenes. The Trump slapping on his knee pads and going down on Vlady story is only put on the back burner...for now. It's not fakenews, our sources lied! Somebody lied and the Fakesnews Media just reports. Ain't their fault. Like McCain and Paulie the Parrot, many have succumbed to Trump Degrangement Syndrome. Quite common, actually. Maybe it comes with a propensity to posses a broken thinker. However, I do love it when the devour their own.

Liar! Liar! Blame the sources.

https://www.chicksontheright.com/wolf-blitzer-called-cnns-chief-political-correspondent-crappy-sources/?ref=Ads

RezotLib

Fake News! Drump did not serve!!!


AMES, IOWA (The Borowitz Report)—Presidential candidate Donald Trump revealed a little-known episode of personal heroism from his youth on Saturday, telling an Iowa audience that he narrowly avoided capture in Vietnam by remaining in the United States for the duration of the war.
“The Cong were after me,” Trump said, visibly stirred by the memory. “And then, just in the nick of time, I got my deferment.”
The former reality-show star said he had never shared his record as a war hero before because “I don’t like to boast.”
He said that he only disclosed the episode now because “the way this nation treats our deferment veterans is a disgrace.”
Trump complained that he received no official commendation or medal for his heroism, calling the lack of recognition “shameful.”
“Those brave Americans who, like me, avoided being captured by not serving at all—we are the true heroes,” he said.
Trump’s tale of valor appeared to move many members of his audience, some of whom waited in line after his speech to thank him for his lack of service.

Bill Tozer

More from Chicks on the Right.

https://www.chicksontheright.com/buzzfeed-reporter-accidentally-throws-bus/

The equalizer:

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/895783187238571/?type=3&theater

Beware the Emperor God.

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/895778303905726/?type=3&theater


Walt

Trump didn't serve? I bet the "jon", or any one of his/her/it's AKA's have either.
So no room to bitch.

Bill Tozer

More ammo for Todd's earlier post:

"He added that doesn't believe in white privilege because it teaches a generation that they are inferior to white people because the latter have it easier.
Jones said that the younger generation has unity, even in settings like a Black Lives Matter march, which includes a lot of white marchers."

"Leaving this race-baiting to the adults. Allow the kids to be kids," Jones said.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/07/30/race-whiteness-conference-k-12-teachers-lawrence-jones

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/895793483904208/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1129455087188527/?type=3&theater

Walt

Paul better get back soon. Someone might be in need of a job.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/07/30/disaster-megyn-sunday-show-pulled-after-eight-poorly-rated-episodes/

It sure must suck to be her. The highest paid woman, the highest viewership, then overplayed her hand. Someone just had to believe her viewers would follow and abandon FOX.
Looks like that work out as planed.
They want to give her back to FOX,, but FOX won't have her. I wonder what small town 6 O clock news now one has heard of, will she land?

Bill Tozer

Walt, she should not have taken on Trump. The Deplorables started a boycott of Megan and her sponsors after the first R debate and the rest is history. Since I don't have TV, at first I did not know what the fuss was about. She is kinda cute with horns protruding out of here head. Another one bites the dust.
Megan ain't bad, just messed with the wrong viewers. Silent but deadly when pushed. Ok, sometimes we get vocal, but the ground rules are: You leave us alone, we leave you alone. Go ahead, draw first blood and you will have blood shooting out of all your...orifices. Just ask Ms. Kelly.

More than one has fallen into the trap of underestimating Trump's supporters. You call Trump a name, you call 60 million people a name. Simple. Even Harry Reed very early on conceded that it would be political suicide to dis the Trumpamanics out there. Then Hillary called us a basket full of Deplorables, racists, bigots, and Irredeemables. Hillary then tried to backtrack and said she was referring to Trump, not his supporters. Hmmm. Beam me up, Scottie. Basket full of......well, every disparaging word was in the plural form. Got the Chicks on the Right more upset. Diamonds and Silk went to town on that one. Didn't upset me in the least. Hey, when your opponent hangs herself with her own rope, why get upset. You thank your good fortune. Womenfolk took it too personal, I reckon. Hillary? Yep, another one bites the dustt.
Loved it when Trump said Crooked Hillary's slogan is "I'm with her." My slogan is "I'm with you."

So, laid it on me, progressives. Call me names. Call me bad names. I got 100% of the Oval Office, you got 100% of a grunt sandwich. Oh, Buttercups, better wipe that piece of human debris caught between your front teeth. It rather distracting and most unpleasant to watch that sticky brown stuff wedged in your pearly whites as your lips go yapping about Russia or tweets or whatever makes you pee your pants on a daily basis.

Megan is a tough lady, but she ain't no Trump.

Bill Tozer

Where's the new polls?

https://www.facebook.com/TheFederalistPapers/photos/a.112478365457075.7231.107705785934333/1563463177025246/?type=3&theater

Darn, another reason to feel guilty. I am doing my best to be as dumb as my progressive regressive gene Democrats are, but it ain't that easy to meet them down on that level.

http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/being-smart-is-a-cognitive-privilege

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

from ABC News:

"Clinton lost, but Republicans still want to investigate her"

lol. Like that has anything to do with criminal behavior.

I'm debating to myself whether the complete shutdown in the Russia story is because it lost traction with the public, the Team Blue News Teams are all about bringing down a President rather than pursuing a truthful story after all, or because the threat of bringing down the Democrats reared it's head. Perhaps some calls went out to the NYT to back off and this was done in exchange for easing off on HRC investigations. We'll never know.

As some German guy said:

“The press today is an army with carefully organized weapons, the journalists its officers, the readers its soldiers. The reader neither knows nor is supposed to know the purposes for which he is used and the role he is to play.”

In the interest of debate, I do have to like the fact that a person in a position of power said this, it's not like the Green Libertarians would ever take on media empires with the exception of the ever-fading world of AM radio:

http://thehill.com/policy/technology/344185-report-bannon-thinks-facebook-and-google-should-be-subject-to-utility-style

Russ

New Report Exposes Thousands of Illegal Votes in 2016 Election

The Government Accountability Institute was able to obtain voter registration and voter history data from only 21 states because while some states shared it freely, “others impose exorbitant costs or refuse to comply with voter information requests.”

These 21 states represent “about 17 percent of all possible state-to-state comparison combinations.”

The institute compared the lists using an “extremely conservative matching approach that sought only to identify two votes cast in the same legal name.” It found that 8,471 votes in 2016 were “highly likely” duplicates.

Extrapolating this to all 50 states would likely produce, with “high-confidence,” around 45,000 duplicate votes.

The institute obtained this level of confidence by matching not only names and birthdays—which can be the same for different individuals—but also by contracting with companies, such as Virtual DBS, that have commercial databases to further cross-check these individuals using their Social Security numbers and other information.

Full article is here: http://dailysignal.com/2017/07/28/new-report-exposes-thousands-illegal-votes-2016-election/

Still to be found are the fraudulent voter registration cases, which the President's Commission are examining, Stay Tuned, this is going to be another big story the Lame Stream Press will ignore.

Steve Frisch

Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 30 July 2017 at 12:24 PM


Really no point in attacking your post Todd. It does a fine job of speaking for itself. I think you overestimate your reach :)

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

re: Russ@6:11AM

My gut tells me that it's a heckuva lot more than 'thousands', but hopefully ICE will put the fear of God into voter fraud. Obviously, a population that has to show ID and significant other information to get food stamps can't be expected to do the same thing for voting, it's just too darned difficult.

https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10101.pdf

Somehow voters manage to show ID in the rest of the world.

What blew me away was finding out that states are given electoral college votes based on illegal alien population (in addition to everyone else). Nice.

Todd Juvinall

Steve Frisch | 31 July 2017 at 06:44 AM

Thanks I have had a huge response and it is all good except for a couple of racists like you.

Bill Tozer

"Somehow voters manage to show ID in the rest of the world."

Food Stamps:
In addition to the application and interview, you will also need to provide veri cation
of certain information. Some ways you can verify the information on your SNAP application include:
• Identi cation such as a driver’s license, state ID card, birth certi cate, work or school ID card, health insurance card, voter registration card, or proof of alien status;

I have often wondered how passengers can board a commercial airplane without showing ID. So, if you don't have ID, guess you cannot fly back home for Dad's funeral, take a vacation to Disney World, but you can vote? Like paying taxes, it must be on the "voluntary" honor system.

Todd Juvinall

Careful BiiT, Frisch will say you are using "dog whistles" on the food stamp story. These liberals are the worst racists and people like Frisch project on to others their true feelings. He still has not listed the racial makeup of his business. I wonder if it is all one race?

Paul Emery

For your reading pleasure

Down to an unbelievable 21 in the conservative Rasmussen poll. 21 point drop in 6 weeks. How low can ego?

Paul Emery

Link
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

Paul Emery

This is creepy

Nearly all Cabinet officials attend Bible lessons with right-wing pastor who compares Trump to biblical heroes

Christian Broadcast News has suggested President Donald Trump’s cabinet is the most evangelical cabinet in history even more than born again Christian George W. Bush.

“These are godly individuals that God has risen to a position of prominence in our culture,” said Capitol Ministries president and founder Ralph Drollinger. According to CBN, the majority of the cabinet officials attend a frequent Bible study class, that is the first of its kind in at least 100 years.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/nearly-all-cabinet-officials-attend-bible-lessons-with-right-wing-pastor-who-compares-trump-to-biblical-heroes/

Don Bessee

For the po' ol' pollhead, 61% of people think them dems are too much about big government. ;-)

Todd Juvinall

Why is that creepy? Seems cool to me. Better than their view that Obama was a devil's spawn.

Paul Emery


More
“I don’t think Donald Trump has figured out that he chained himself to the Apostle Paul,” Drollinger said, though it isn’t clear who the “Paul” is in this analogy. It’s doubtful Trump would get the reference either given his confusion about popular Biblical texts.

Drollinger sees Trump as the biblical character Samson, who is known for the source of his strength coming from his hair."

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 31 July 2017 at 10:21 AM


.....still president Paul.

Todd Juvinall

Oh Paul Emery, is there nothing you have to say that is positive? America became a great country in spite f people like you.

Paul Emery

Another call asking me to defend the Democrats. Reminder I am not a Democrat

Whatever, it,s all good don. I only answer to Paul or Paul Emery

Walt

Science Discovers Densest Element Known!
by Rational Db8; Hillariumologist with a fellowship in Pelosium and related elemental studies, PhD Nuclear Politics

PRECAUTIONARY NOTICE: Pelosiphiles may become warped and bent out of shape from the activation energy of reading about Pelosium - proceed with caution!

A major research institution has just announced the discovery of the densest element yet known to science. The new element has been named Pelosium. The chemical symbol of Pelosium is Pu². Pelosium has one neutron, 12 assistant neutrons, 75 deputy neutrons, and 224 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 311. These particles are held together by dark particles called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons.

Pelosium’s mass actually increases over time, as morons randomly interact with various elements in the atmosphere and become assistant deputy neutrons within the Pelosium molecule, leading to the formation of isodopes. This characteristic of moron-promotion leads some scientist to believe that Pelosium is formed whenever morons reach a certain quantity in concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as Critical Morass.

Gregory

Todd,

The wretchedly misnamed rent seeking Sierra Business Council appears to be 89.5% Europid (17 of 19), based on a purely superficial inspection of photographs shared with the world. 74% appear female.

Paul,
I don't know where you get these numbers (down to an unbelievable 21... 21 what?). Rasmussen daily presidential poll shows 39% support for Trump today, and that's down 11% since the high of 50% a few weeks ago. That's also with the Obama war room operation two miles from the Capitol, spinning talking points in a twice daily phone meeting to blunt GOP efforts ot overturn Obamacare and give the Paul Emerys out there something to talk about.

That's an unprecedented refusal to go home after vacating the oval orifice. A failure to turn over and let the new guys in town to govern.

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 31 July 2017 at 10:32 AM


Not entirely accurate.....if properly worked into a partisan lather you will also, on occasion respond to.....and my personal favorite I might add....."Punchy"!

Don Bessee

The DOW is 21927 right now, looks like 22,000 could happen this week, earnings reports are great too. ;-)

Todd Juvinall

The country is responding to the Trump policies in a favorable manner. But if you listen to Paul Emery and the fake news you would think we are in a depression circa 1933. The people they poll are weighted left. So they are fake polls. America is doing fine as is the President.

Gregory

I didn't watch all of yesterday's talking head shows yet but I was absolutely fascinated by Pelosi's interview on Fox Snooze Someday... I don't know if my take is shared by anyone but based on non verbal cues, Pelosi seemed absolutely fearful to me. Afraid she was losing relevancy, afraid she was losing a grip on the body politic.

Gregory

"Another call asking me to defend the Democrats. Reminder I am not a Democrat"


Reminder, Paul... you are apparently registered as a Democrat.

Walt

Don. I did some stock trading today. Bought as much RDS (Shell oil) as I could.
Just shy of a buck a share in dividends on the next payout. Got rid of a few stocks that weren't doing as hot. 6.75% dividend ain't bad at all.

Todd Juvinall

And he voted for Obama. SBC hires these young white women so they can pay them 72% of a man's wage?

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