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01 July 2017

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Steve Frisch

Continued for 27June17 Sandbox

"LOL Stevie.. Corruption you say? The last administration was so corrupt, it made us look like your favorite banana republic. Nice try. Need proof? Hillary and friends are still walking the streets free.(that may change soon enough)
Plenty of pay to play. Then business get sued, then pay some third party "social justice(ha)nonprofit" shakedown money, with the DOJ's approval.(Holder jus help'n "his people".)

Posted by: Walt | 01 July 2017 at 04:09 PM"

Walt I always love the rationale that someone else was corrupt so our corruption is OK. Clearly that is what the American tradition of the rule of law as built on :)

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

"the Trump will bet taken down by corruption, something those here seem not to care about as along as the corrupt party is "theirs.""

It could certainly happen, it depends who paid off their senator or judge last.

As I might have mentioned before (boringly, perhaps), everyone knows which side they are on. You just need to put up with the ugliness on your own team, whether it's the remarkable corruption in the Congressional Black Caucus or the Jack Abramoffs of the world.

Trump is an interesting case in that he stand alone. His mafia consists of, like it or not, a grassroots bunch of yahoos. It's the yahoos that matter, not Trump. Personally, I'm enjoying the show. Watching the 'people's party' busily fellating the deep state is truly a wonder to behold.

Steve Frisch

Many Americans have become accustomed to President Trump’s lies. But as regular as they have become, the country should not allow itself to become numb to them. So we have catalogued nearly every outright lie he has told publicly since taking the oath of office.

By DAVID LEONHARDT and STUART A. THOMPSON JUNE 23, 2017
JUMP TO STORY BELOW
JAN. 21 “I wasn't a fan of Iraq. I didn't want to go into Iraq.” (He was for an invasion before he was against it.)JAN. 21 “A reporter for Time magazine — and I have been on their cover 14 or 15 times. I think we have the all-time record in the history of Time magazine.” (Trump was on the cover 11 times and Nixon appeared 55 times.)JAN. 23 “Between 3 million and 5 million illegal votes caused me to lose the popular vote.” (There's no evidence of illegal voting.)JAN. 25 “Now, the audience was the biggest ever. But this crowd was massive. Look how far back it goes. This crowd was massive.” (Official aerial photos show Obama's 2009 inauguration was much more heavily attended.)JAN. 25 “Take a look at the Pew reports (which show voter fraud.)” (The report never mentioned voter fraud.)JAN. 25 “You had millions of people that now aren't insured anymore.” (The real number is less than 1 million, according to the Urban Institute.)JAN. 25 “So, look, when President Obama was there two weeks ago making a speech, very nice speech. Two people were shot and killed during his speech. You can't have that.” (There were no gun homicide victims in Chicago that day.)JAN. 26 “We've taken in tens of thousands of people. We know nothing about them. They can say they vet them. They didn't vet them. They have no papers. How can you vet somebody when you don't know anything about them and you have no papers? How do you vet them? You can't.” (Vetting lasts up to two years.)JAN. 26 “I cut off hundreds of millions of dollars off one particular plane, hundreds of millions of dollars in a short period of time. It wasn't like I spent, like, weeks, hours, less than hours, and many, many hundreds of millions of dollars. And the plane's going to be better.” (Most of the cuts were already planned.)JAN. 28 “The coverage about me in the @nytimes and the @washingtonpost has been so false and angry that the Times actually apologized to its dwindling subscribers and readers.” (It never apologized.)JAN. 29 “The Cuban-Americans, I got 84 percent of that vote.” (There is no support for this.)JAN. 30 “Only 109 people out of 325,000 were detained and held for questioning. Big problems at airports were caused by Delta computer outage.” (At least 746 people were detained and processed, and the Delta outage happened two days later.)FEB. 3 “Professional anarchists, thugs and paid protesters are proving the point of the millions of people who voted to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” (There is no evidence of paid protesters.)FEB. 4 “After being forced to apologize for its bad and inaccurate coverage of me after winning the election, the FAKE NEWS @nytimes is still lost!” (It never apologized.)FEB. 5 “We had 109 people out of hundreds of thousands of travelers and all we did was vet those people very, very carefully.” (About 60,000 people were affected.)FEB. 6 “I have already saved more than $700 million when I got involved in the negotiation on the F-35.” (Much of the price drop was projected before Trump took office.)FEB. 6 “It's gotten to a point where it is not even being reported. And in many cases, the very, very dishonest press doesn't want to report it.” (Terrorism has been reported on, often in detail.)FEB. 6 “The failing @nytimes was forced to apologize to its subscribers for the poor reporting it did on my election win. Now they are worse!” (It didn't apologize.)FEB. 6 “And the previous administration allowed it to happen because we shouldn't have been in Iraq, but we shouldn't have gotten out the way we got out. It created a vacuum, ISIS was formed.” (The group’s origins date to 2004.)FEB. 7 “And yet the murder rate in our country is the highest it’s been in 47 years, right? Did you know that? Forty-seven years.” (It was higher in the 1980s and '90s.)FEB. 7 “I saved more than $600 million. I got involved in negotiation on a fighter jet, the F-35.” (The Defense Department projected this price drop before Trump took office.)FEB. 9 “Chris Cuomo, in his interview with Sen. Blumenthal, never asked him about his long-term lie about his brave ‘service’ in Vietnam. FAKE NEWS!” (It was part of Cuomo's first question.)FEB. 9 Sen. Richard Blumenthal “now misrepresents what Judge Gorsuch told him?” (The Gorsuch comments were later corroborated.)FEB. 10 “I don’t know about it. I haven’t seen it. What report is that?” (Trump knew about Flynn's actions for weeks.)FEB. 12 “Just leaving Florida. Big crowds of enthusiastic supporters lining the road that the FAKE NEWS media refuses to mention. Very dishonest!” (The media did cover it.)FEB. 16 “We got 306 because people came out and voted like they've never seen before so that's the way it goes. I guess it was the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan.” (George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama all won bigger margins in the Electoral College.)FEB. 16 “That’s the other thing that was wrong with the travel ban. You had Delta with a massive problem with their computer system at the airports.” (Delta's problems happened two days later.)FEB. 16 “Walmart announced it will create 10,000 jobs in the United States just this year because of our various plans and initiatives.” (The jobs are a result of its investment plans announced in October 2016.)FEB. 16 “When WikiLeaks, which I had nothing to do with, comes out and happens to give, they’re not giving classified information.” (Not always. They have released classified information in the past.)FEB. 16 “We had a very smooth rollout of the travel ban. But we had a bad court. Got a bad decision.” (The rollout was chaotic.)FEB. 16 “They’re giving stuff — what was said at an office about Hillary cheating on the debates. Which, by the way, nobody mentions. Nobody mentions that Hillary received the questions to the debates.” (It was widely covered.)FEB. 18 “And there was no way to vet those people. There was no documentation. There was no nothing.” (Refugees receive multiple background checks, taking up to two years.)FEB. 18 “You look at what's happening in Germany, you look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this?” (Trump implied there was a terror attack in Sweden, but there was no such attack.)FEB. 24 “By the way, you folks are in here — this place is packed, there are lines that go back six blocks.” (There was no evidence of long lines.)FEB. 24 “ICE came and endorsed me.” (Only its union did.)FEB. 24 “Obamacare covers very few people — and remember, deduct from the number all of the people that had great health care that they loved that was taken away from them — it was taken away from them.” (Obamacare increased coverage by a net of about 20 million.)FEB. 27 “Since Obamacare went into effect, nearly half of the insurers are stopped and have stopped from participating in the Obamacare exchanges.” (Many fewer pulled out.)FEB. 27 “On one plane, on a small order of one plane, I saved $725 million. And I would say I devoted about, if I added it up, all those calls, probably about an hour. So I think that might be my highest and best use.” (Much of the price cut was already projected.)FEB. 28 “And now, based on our very strong and frank discussions, they are beginning to do just that.” (NATO countries agreed to meet defense spending requirements in 2014.)FEB. 28 “The E.P.A.’s regulators were putting people out of jobs by the hundreds of thousands.” (There's no evidence that the Waters of the United States rule caused severe job losses.)FEB. 28 “We have begun to drain the swamp of government corruption by imposing a five-year ban on lobbying by executive branch officials.” (They can't lobby their former agency but can still become lobbyists.)MARCH 3 “It is so pathetic that the Dems have still not approved my full Cabinet.” (Paperwork for the last two candidates was still not submitted to the Senate.)MARCH 4 “Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my ‘wires tapped’ in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!” (There's no evidence of a wiretap.)MARCH 4 “How low has President Obama gone to tap my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!” (There's no evidence of a wiretap.)MARCH 7 “122 vicious prisoners, released by the Obama Administration from Gitmo, have returned to the battlefield. Just another terrible decision!” (113 of them were released by President George W. Bush.)MARCH 13 “I saved a lot of money on those jets, didn't I? Did I do a good job? More than $725 million on them.” (Much of the cost cuts were planned before Trump.)MARCH 13 “First of all, it covers very few people.” (About 20 million people gained insurance under Obamacare.)MARCH 15 “On the airplanes, I saved $725 million. Probably took me a half an hour if you added up all of the times.” (Much of the cost cuts were planned before Trump.)MARCH 17 “I was in Tennessee — I was just telling the folks — and half of the state has no insurance company, and the other half is going to lose the insurance company.” (There's at least one insurer in every Tennessee county.)MARCH 20 “With just one negotiation on one set of airplanes, I saved the taxpayers of our country over $700 million.” (Much of the cost cuts were planned before Trump.)MARCH 21 “To save taxpayer dollars, I’ve already begun negotiating better contracts for the federal government — saving over $700 million on just one set of airplanes of which there are many sets.” (Much of the cost cuts were planned before Trump.)MARCH 22 “I make the statement, everyone goes crazy. The next day they have a massive riot, and death, and problems.” (Riots in Sweden broke out two days later and there were no deaths.)MARCH 22 “NATO, obsolete, because it doesn’t cover terrorism. They fixed that.” (It has fought terrorism since the 1980s.)MARCH 22 “Well, now, if you take a look at the votes, when I say that, I mean mostly they register wrong — in other words, for the votes, they register incorrectly and/or illegally. And they then vote. You have tremendous numbers of people.” (There's no evidence of widespread voter fraud.)MARCH 29 “Remember when the failing @nytimes apologized to its subscribers, right after the election, because their coverage was so wrong. Now worse!” (It didn't apologize.)MARCH 31 “We have a lot of plants going up now in Michigan that were never going to be there if I — if I didn’t win this election, those plants would never even think about going back. They were gone.” (These investments were already planned.)APRIL 2 “And I was totally opposed to the war in the Middle East which I think finally has been proven, people tried very hard to say I wasn’t but you’ve seen that it is now improving.” (He was for an invasion before he was against it.)APRIL 2 “Now, my last tweet — you know, the one that you are talking about, perhaps — was the one about being, in quotes, wiretapped, meaning surveilled. Guess what, it is turning out to be true.” (There is still no evidence.)APRIL 5 “You have many states coming up where they’re going to have no insurance company. O.K.? It’s already happened in Tennessee. It’s happening in Kentucky. Tennessee only has half coverage. Half the state is gone. They left.” (Every marketplace region in Tennessee had at least one insurer.)APRIL 6 “If you look at the kind of cost-cutting we’ve been able to achieve with the military and at the same time ordering vast amounts of equipment — saved hundreds of millions of dollars on airplanes, and really billions, because if you take that out over a period of years it’s many billions of dollars — I think we’ve had a tremendous success.” (Much of the price cuts were already projected.)APRIL 11 “I like Steve, but you have to remember he was not involved in my campaign until very late. I had already beaten all the senators and all the governors, and I didn’t know Steve.” (He knew Steve Bannon since 2011.)APRIL 12 “You can't do it faster, because they're obstructing. They're obstructionists. So I have people — hundreds of people that we're trying to get through. I mean you have — you see the backlog. We can't get them through.” (At this point, he had not nominated anyone for hundreds of positions.)APRIL 12 “The New York Times said the word wiretapped in the headline of the first edition. Then they took it out of there fast when they realized.” (There were separate headlines for print and web, but neither were altered.)APRIL 12 “The secretary general and I had a productive discussion about what more NATO can do in the fight against terrorism. I complained about that a long time ago and they made a change, and now they do fight terrorism.” (NATO has been engaged in counterterrorism efforts since the 1980s.)APRIL 12 “Mosul was supposed to last for a week and now they’ve been fighting it for many months and so many more people died.” (The campaign was expected to take months.)APRIL 16 “Someone should look into who paid for the small organized rallies yesterday. The election is over!” (There's no evidence of paid protesters.)APRIL 18 “The fake media goes, ‘Donald Trump changed his stance on China.’ I haven’t changed my stance.” (He did.)APRIL 21 “On 90 planes I saved $725 million. It's actually a little bit more than that, but it's $725 million.” (Much of the price cuts were already projected.)APRIL 21 “When WikiLeaks came out … never heard of WikiLeaks, never heard of it.” (He criticized it as early as 2010.)APRIL 27 “I want to help our miners while the Democrats are blocking their healthcare.” (The bill to extend health benefits for certain coal miners was introduced by a Democrat and was co-sponsored by mostly Democrats.)APRIL 28 “The trade deficit with Mexico is close to $70 billion, even with Canada it’s $17 billion trade deficit with Canada.” (The U.S. had an $8.1 billion trade surplus, not deficit, with Canada in 2016.)APRIL 28 “She's running against someone who's going to raise your taxes to the sky, destroy your health care, and he's for open borders — lots of crime.” (Those are not Jon Ossoff's positions.)APRIL 28 “The F-35 fighter jet program — it was way over budget. I’ve saved $725 million plus, just by getting involved in the negotiation.” (Much of the price cuts were planned before Trump.)APRIL 29 “They're incompetent, dishonest people who after an election had to apologize because they covered it, us, me, but all of us, they covered it so badly that they felt they were forced to apologize because their predictions were so bad.” (The Times did not apologize.)APRIL 29 “As you know, I've been a big critic of China, and I've been talking about currency manipulation for a long time. But I have to tell you that during the election, number one, they stopped.” (China stopped years ago.)APRIL 29 “I've already saved more than $725 million on a simple order of F-35 planes. I got involved in the negotiation.” (Much of the price cuts were planned before Trump.)APRIL 29 “We're also getting NATO countries to finally step up and contribute their fair share. They've begun to increase their contributions by billions of dollars, but we are not going to be satisfied until everyone pays what they owe.” (The deal was struck in 2014.)APRIL 29 “When they talk about currency manipulation, and I did say I would call China, if they were, a currency manipulator, early in my tenure. And then I get there. Number one, they — as soon as I got elected, they stopped.” (China stopped in 2014.)APRIL 29 “I was negotiating to reduce the price of the big fighter jet contract, the F-35, which was totally out of control. I will save billions and billions and billions of dollars.” (Most of the cuts were planned before Trump.)APRIL 29 “I think our side's been proven very strongly. And everybody's talking about it.” (There's still no evidence Trump's phones were tapped.)MAY 1 “Well, we are protecting pre-existing conditions. And it'll be every good — bit as good on pre-existing conditions as Obamacare.” (The bill weakens protections for people with pre-existing conditions.)MAY 1 “The F-35 fighter jet — I saved — I got involved in the negotiation. It's 2,500 jets. I negotiated for 90 planes, lot 10. I got $725 million off the price.” (Much of the price cuts were planned before Trump.)MAY 1 “First of all, since I started running, they haven't increased their — you know, they have not manipulated their currency. I think that was out of respect to me and the campaign.” (China stopped years ago.)MAY 2 “I love buying those planes at a reduced price. I have been really — I have cut billions — I have to tell you this, and they can check, right, Martha? I have cut billions and billions of dollars off plane contracts sitting here.” (Much of the cost cuts were planned before Trump.)MAY 4 “Number two, they’re actually not a currency [manipulator]. You know, since I’ve been talking about currency manipulation with respect to them and other countries, they stopped.” (China stopped years ago.)MAY 4 “We’re the highest-taxed nation in the world.” (We're not.)MAY 4 “Nobody cares about my tax return except for the reporters.” (Polls show most Americans do care.)MAY 8 “You know we’ve gotten billions of dollars more in NATO than we’re getting. All because of me.” (The deal was struck in 2014.)MAY 8 “But when I did his show, which by the way was very highly rated. It was high — highest rating. The highest rating he’s ever had.” (Colbert's “Late Show” debut had nearly two million more viewers.)MAY 8 “Director Clapper reiterated what everybody, including the fake media already knows — there is ‘no evidence’ of collusion w/ Russia and Trump.” (Clapper only said he wasn't aware of an investigation.)MAY 12 “Again, the story that there was collusion between the Russians & Trump campaign was fabricated by Dems as an excuse for losing the election.” (The F.B.I. was investigating before the election.)MAY 12 “When James Clapper himself, and virtually everyone else with knowledge of the witch hunt, says there is no collusion, when does it end?” (Clapper said he wouldn't have been told of an investigation into collusion.)MAY 13 “I'm cutting the price of airplanes with Lockheed.” (The cost cuts were planned before he became president.)MAY 26 “Just arrived in Italy for the G7. Trip has been very successful. We made and saved the USA many billions of dollars and millions of jobs.” (He's referencing an arms deal that's not enacted and other apparent deals that weren't announced on the trip.)JUNE 1 “China will be allowed to build hundreds of additional coal plants. So, we can’t build the plants, but they can, according to this agreement. India will be allowed to double its coal production by 2020.” (The agreement doesn’t allow or disallow building coal plants.)JUNE 1 “I’ve just returned from a trip overseas where we concluded nearly $350 billion of military and economic development for the United States, creating hundreds of thousands of jobs.” (Trump’s figures are inflated and premature.)JUNE 4 “At least 7 dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London says there is ‘no reason to be alarmed!’” (The mayor was specifically talking about the enlarged police presence on the streets.)JUNE 5 “The Justice Dept. should have stayed with the original Travel Ban, not the watered down, politically correct version they submitted to S.C.” (Trump signed this version of the travel ban, not the Justice Department.)JUNE 21 “They all say it's 'nonbinding.' Like hell it's nonbinding.” (The Paris climate agreement is nonbinding — and Trump said so in his speech announcing the withdrawal.)JUNE 21 “Right now, we are one of the highest-taxed nations in the world.” (We're not.)

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

my eyes! my eyes!

Don Bessee

So where is proof of the corruption in all that?

I will see your list with you can keep your insurance/doctor if you like it and raise you obamaphones 9 billion buck. ;-)

George Rebane

I am reminded of Lord Keynes’ answer to a breathless reporter having just asked the famous economist what he thought was a gotcha question – Keynes replied, ‘When new information comes in, I change my mind. What do you do?’ Is it possible that an inexperienced politician may behave in a similar manner? Now I admit that it is possible Trump has matured in politics during the last year or so more than we know, but his other actions still paint him as a political naif.

In my profession I admire and have practiced the Keynes Dictum regularly, but only when absolutely necessary 😉

fish

George.....just wanted to take a moment and complement you on the title of this thread!

Great band name!!

joe smith

Communists, Nazis, and now Trump wants you on his list.

The Trump crowd wants to round up the voting record of every single American (along with their social security number, political affiliation, and voting record). It wouldn't take a very "smart" algorithm to deduct who among these American are likely gun owners. I don't like anybody putting me on a list. The Federal Government least of all. If Obama was doing this you right wing patriots would have your hair on fire. Why the silence? Is this okay with you? Where does it stop?

fish

Posted by: joe smith | 01 July 2017 at 04:42 PM


"jons" brother?

Todd Juvinall

Well since the Feds are the repository and control our SSN numbers I guess that is their venue anyway. But all the rest is already public info which ol smokin Joey can go down and get here from Mr. Diaz. So it seems to me they want to see how crooked you li=berls and democrats are and get things right.

Don Bessee

Someone needs to clue @442 that all of that data has already been mined and is on lists federal and otherwise. I am all for purging dead people, double registrations, and illegal aliens from the voting rolls. It seems like a no brainer unless you hold power in Chicago with the dead vote. ;-)

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

re: Joe Smith @ 4:42PM

lol. Don't be such a child. What do you think this building knows about you?

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/pb-130607-nsa-jb-01.photoblog900.jpg

"If Obama was doing this you right wing patriots would have your hair on fire."

I'm not even sure how to respond to that.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

also re:Joe Smith @ 4:42PM

We need to have The Paul kick in on this.

When you feel like fielding questions again, is the Trump administration the source of the national surveillance state?

Forget it. It's such a silly concept that I really can't blame Mr Frisch or The Paul on it, it isn't like everyone on Team Blue has their act together. Maybe we are just seeing someone from Share Blue or a keyboard bank in St. Petersburg doing their thing.

Walt

Yes Stevie,, "your side" is as corrupt as one can get. Yet not a damned bit of proof of corruption on Trump's part, despite the Lefty accusation. Hell LIB media can't even do their usual fabrication of "evidence" to sink Trump.
Remember exploding gas tanks? doctored 911 tapes? Now fabricated "intelligence" documents.
All got busted in due time. The common denominator is LIBERALISM.

Don Bessee

It sounds like heads exploding in the region at the Presidents speech to the Vets at the Kennedy Center. ;-)

Russ

Not everyone sees Trump's Tweets the way the Washington Elites see them. Here is the view of a retired diplomat with a lifetime of experience dealing with the Washington Elites.

. . . thinking about the progressives and their collective melt-down over the past few days and weeks. President Trump has done something remarkable with his tweets, his speeches, his actions, and his general attitude, to wit, he's taken the progressives' voice and left them "howling at the moon."

President Trump has used words as much for setting the mood as for their actual definition. While the progressives try to parse and pick apart those words, the rest of us understand exactly what he's saying, how he's tapping into our own thoughts and letting them gush forth like a wildcat oil well.

He is leaving the progs "howling at the moon." They don't know what else to say about him, what other slanders and libels to heave in his direction, what more fake narratives and news to conjure up. Nothing seems to work. It all boomerangs.

If Trump can keep this up, he will go down as one of the great presidents. He is a revolutionary force. I am more than impressed.

Every time the Elites, Left or Right, attack Trump for his Tweets there is a big "Yea!" from the deplorables. I think Trump is over doing the Tweeting Gig, and it will eventually come back to bit him in the butt. On the other hand, anything that keeps the progressive howling in the wind, moon or no moon, it is a good thing.

Bill Tozer

https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913.80726.51560645913/10154845203410914/?type=3&theater

https://patriotpost.us/posts/49964

https://www.facebook.com/Capitalists/photos/a.226491315514.290842.188355460514/10158946108335515/?type=3&theater

Bill Tozer

Gee Whiz, what's all the fuss about? Nothing to see here. The exploding heads woke me up from a perfectly good nappy-pooh over a tweet? Tweets? Yawn. You would thought the sky was falling or something.

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/878988355584721/?type=3&theater

The seething cauldron. Told you guys they are having another meltdown right about now. Sounds more like coughing up a lung than last gasps to me. Last gasps comes later, but maybe sooner than I anticipated. They are melting into puddles in this summer heat.


https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/878987232251500/?type=3&theater

jon smith

Sorry for the "joe". TypePad auto enters joe and I have to delete it and type jon. Laziness comes at a price. Regardless, I still wonder at the silence from the right when Big Brother wants your information. Todd, if the Feds already have this information as you suggest, why do they ask for it?? The next step will be that the feds will issue mandatory ID cards to be shown at the request of government employees. Hitler anyone?

Todd Juvinall

The Feds have your info because that is how FDR set it up. Every single American citizen. They want the voter rolls to comare and ensure the voter is a citizen. Pretty simple. As far as an ID card, that is already done with a Social Security issuance. I am not interested in them knowing any more than I want them to know either. But we do that too.

Michael R. Kesti

Todd Juvinall 02Jul17 07:15 AM

The bottom front of my Social Security card reads, "For Social Security and tax purposes - not for identification." It was well after FDR's presidency that SSNs became ID numbers.

George Rebane

To keep the anti-Trump cauldron bubbling, the Left again trots out their delivered wisdom that not continuing to increase funding at their designated rate is proclaimed as a program cut. So have been taught many Americans, and so believe all liberals. In the healthcare wars this fallacy is trotted out about Medicaid in the Senate's bill. John Hinderaker explains the matter here.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/07/associated-press-telling-the-truth-is-misleading.php

fish
. "A western Nevada County Fourth of July weekend" .



Kids holding up State of Jefferson signs.....letting lefty pseudo-intellectuals feel good about themselves since.....forever!



https://sierrafoothillsreport.com/2017/07/02/a-western-nevada-county-fourth-of-july-weekend/

fish

Posted by: jon smith | 02 July 2017 at 07:08 AM


The next step will be that the feds will issue mandatory ID cards to be shown at the request of government employees. Hitler anyone?



Maybe.....somehow I doubt that you would be nearly so frightened if that smooth talking black man was still in office! He was dreamy wasn't he?


(Obligatory Hitler reference.......+20 bonus points)

Todd Juvinall

jon, err, joe is a run of the mill clueless liberal buffoon. Always going to the Hitler crap. But now America gets o see the left here are the fascists now. What a amazing turnaround.

Hey before the guy with the moustache, who did the libs use?

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

There appear to be a lot of Hitlers out there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_identity_card_policies_by_country

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVHtYKiv_4U

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

re: TJ @ 11:31AM

My best guess is Rockefeller.

Of course, practically any US citizen prior to WWII, especially pre-FDR, would be considered absurdly right wing by modern standards.

Don Bessee

Try fling without acceptable ID 'the jon'. ;-)

Walt

The 'jon', really needs to read up on some things. having ID is law across the land. So save your Hitler crap for someone else. Get stopped by ANY law enforcement and not having ID, the odds are, your going to jail until they find out who you are. We ALL are required to have it.
How did you acquire your guns 'jon' without ID?

Russ

Progressives Destroyed Normalcy And Now They’re Shocked Trump Isn’t Normal

The state of our political discourse is saddening. But sometimes people are called upon to be better than their leaders—and this is one of those times.

Progressives have found a rallying cry in their opposition to Donald Trump’s presidency. Whether in the New York Times, on the John Oliver Show, or in protests in the nations’ streets, they are insisting that Trump is “not normal.” News media and elected officials not considered critical enough of Trump are criticized for normalizing him and his ideas. Suddenly progressives, of all people, are deeply concerned about our culture’s long-held norms and traditions.

The irony in all of this is crystal clear. These are the same people who over the past few years have insisted that five-year-old boys becoming five-year-old girls is normal. They tell us that a guaranteed basic income and running for president as a Socialist is normal. Forcing Catholic hospitals to offer birth control, undocumented immigrants voting in our elections, and abolishing the police: normal, normal, and normal.

Full Article is HERE:

The left destroyed our cultural norms! It is too late to go back, progressive's disregard for normal has made it possible to elect a President that does not conform the what the elites in Washington consider NORMAL. Too late baby, the deed is done. Live with it!

Todd Juvinall

You have more respect from the left if you are a cross dressing transgenered man/woman than a normal man woman. They have succeeded in turning deviancy into normalcy. And with poiltics. And now they say Trump is not "normal"

Walt

Is this supposed to pass as "normal"? (from the ex-asswipe, yet still is an asswipe.)
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/obama-warns-americans-much-patriotism-july-4th-weekend/

"While most Americans are gathering with family and community this weekend to celebrate the most exceptional country in the history of the world, Mr. Hope and Change is halfway around the world talking doom and gloom — and criticizing his successor."

Walt

Well, here is some "normal". A lying Calif. Progressive.
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/07/02/gavin-newsom-slams-nra-urging-truth-liberal-lies-violence/
"Lt. Governor Gavin Newsom (D) is blasting the NRA for a new commercial that points to the violence of the left and asks Americans to respond with “the clenched fist of truth.” "

Russ


Trump is Playing the Press : Glenn Reynolds in USA Today

I am a long time fan of the good TN Law Professor and Author of insightful books on education and economics.

Why are the relations between Donald Trump and the press so bad? There are two reasons. One is that Trump is a Republican, and the press consists overwhelmingly of Democrats. But the other reason is that Trump likes it this way, because when the press is constantly attacking him over trivialities, it strengthens his position and weakens the press. Trump’s “outrageous” statements and tweets aren’t the product of impulsiveness, but part of a carefully maintained strategy that the press is too impulsive to resist.

The first thing to understand is that one of the changes going on with Trump generally is the renegotiation of various post-World War II institutional arrangements. One of those is the institutional arrangement involving the press and the White House. For decades, the press got special status because it was seen as both powerful and institutionally responsible. (And, of course, allied with the Democrats, who were mostly in charge of setting up those postwar institutional arrangements). Press quarters inside the White House and daily press briefings made it easy for everyone to get together on the story of the day.

Now those things have changed. If the press were powerful, it would have beaten Trump. If it were responsible, it wouldn’t be running away with fake news whenever it sees a chance to run something damaging to Trump. And, of course, there’s no alliance between Trump and the media, as there was with Obama.

So things will change. The press’s “insider” status — which it cherishes — is going to fade, with Trump’s press people even talking about moving them out of the White House entirely, and ignoring their existing pecking order in press conferences. (This is producing waves of status anxiety, as are many other Trump-induced institutional changes). And, having abandoned, quite openly, any pretense of objectivity and neutrality in the election, the press is going to be treated as an enemy by the Trump administration until further notice.

Full Article is HERE.

Leftist teeth grinding and gnash will continue unabated until farther notice.

Bill Tozer

Russ @ 4:12pm.

Russ, you have been posting great stuff for a few weeks straight. Please don't take my silence as disapproval or not reading your links. To the contrary, I feel compelled to break silence to say keep up the good work, sir.

Looks like the unhinged ones are stuck with eight years of Trump, so buckle up, Buttercups.
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/879472665536290/?type=3&theater

The Cauldron is is getting hotter and no longer simmering. Rapid boil is fast approaching.
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/879217752228448/?type=3&theater

This really gets their goat. They just can't buy a break.
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/07/01/report-phoenix-dropped-sanctuary-city-status-crime-rate-fell/


Walt

OH the two facedness of LIB news.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/07/02/new-york-times-condemns-trumps-cnn-wwe-tweet-but-sponsored-play-depicting-his-assassination/

" It's OK when we do it."

Walt

I'm sure our LIBS agree with this.
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/07/02/dem-rep-sherman-act-now-impeach-trump-abuse-power-incompetence/
OK,,, on what grounds? Name the abuse of power.(don't forget to revisit "O" abuses)
Incompetence? Now there is a great one. He's outsmarted the best your side has, and continues to do so.

Bill Tozer

"President Trump appears to have entered a new phase of his administration with the escalation of this Tweet Travails"------- George Rebane.

I don't think Trump's latest body slam of CNN video will hurt him one bit. It can only get his supporters giving it the ole fist pump in the air with thecry of "Yes!" filling the air. When that guy from Montana body slammed some rude interrupting reporter, he won the election the very next day.

Trump is taking it TO them and the Twitter barrage shows no signs of easing up. Our turn to carpet bomb. The Fakesnews media is in full blown defensive mode now, a place they are not accustomed to occupying. Foreign terrority for them and they are on the back of their heels.

Sure, the Tweets have an element of risk and sooner or later one will come back to bite President Donald J. Trump on his posterior. But, it's worth all the risks as Trump is controlling the media's narrative instead of vice versa. The MSM is in very unfamiliar terrority. Trump let the Fakesnews walk right on in leading with their chin, and now they are acting like the bully who finally receives a bloody nose, running home to Mommie with their tail between their hind legs. Too funny, yet oh so common from the playground to the highest levels of power.

The reason I like the Trumpian Tweets is it bypasses all the normal filters. Until now, a press conference was called to announce an new proposal, issue a statement, or comment on an event. The Media would put their filters on, and tell us the portions we should know and tell us how we should interpret such filtered and edited "news". Trump just leap frogs over the Fake Steam Media and goes directly to the Deplorables.

In days of yore (before Trump) a President such as George W. Bush in the face of a media firestorm would retain his composure, not respond, and suffer in silence and so-called 'dignity'. My exasperation with Republicans is they always fold like a cheap suit when the Heat gets a bit uncomfortable. And the R's will sell out their very selves them to be liked by the opposition party and MSM, both of whom will forever detest and despise the R's. Opps, except for John McCain and they turned on him when he ran against Obama in '08.

Not so with Trump. He ain't folding, his knees are not turning to soggy pretzels, and instead of fleeing to his safe spot, he is charging straight at them like a bull seeing red. Oh my. Let those fists fly, Mt. Trump! Kick them in the nuts, poke them in their eyes, and bite off the side of their faces, my aborable street fighting man, you. Rip their tongues out with rusty plyers just for fun. Pulverize them for their fakenews lies and vitriol.

Now CNN is implying that at the next press conference Trump may charge out into the press section and body slam CNN and AP and ABC News and NBC News reporters. I would not mind one bit if he did, but that scenario appears unlikely. Afterall, President Trump may throw his back out in the melee, which is not a good thing. We need Trump healthy and at the top of his game.
Yo Trump, if you are going to body slam the press, keep your center of gravity between your shoulders and no reaching out too far. We don't need your back to be out of alignment right now. Just a suggestion.

Mary Wanna

Too bad. Big Coal wants customers to pay for failed clean coal plant. Trump please help them.

https://www.desmogblog.com/2017/06/28/breaking-southern-co-officially-yanks-plug-kemper-clean-coal-power-plant-warns-it-may-recognize-loss-3-4-billion

Todd Juvinall

Would that be the same as Obama and Solyndra?

Walt

Well Mary,, wasn't it the "taxpayer"(ECO nut Government) that forced them to use that bogus tech. in the first place?

Gregory

Mary Wanna keep from exhaling 40,000ppm CO2? Give it a try.

CO2 is clean enough as-is and if the CO2 climate sensitivity is 1.3degrees C as a number of physicists have determined from atmospheric temperature measurements and thermodynamics, and not from 2 to 4.5C as the IPCC AR4 decided from looking at computer simulations, there is no issue using lignite for fuel without rube goldberg CO2 sequestration technologies... below about 2.0C equilibrium sensitivity, there are no "tipping points" and AGW (at least from CO2) will be smaller than natural variations.

Mary Wanna

Trumper speak explained, Alex Jones and kidnapped children on Mars,

“In an ever-changing, incomprehensible world the masses had reached the point where they would, at the same time, believe everything and nothing, think that everything was possible and that nothing was true. ... Mass propaganda discovered that its audience was ready at all times to believe the worst, no matter how absurd, and did not particularly object to being deceived because it held every statement to be a lie anyhow. The totalitarian mass leaders based their propaganda on the correct psychological assumption that, under such conditions, one could make people believe the most fantastic statements one day, and trust that if the next day they were given irrefutable proof of their falsehood, they would take refuge in cynicism; instead of deserting the leaders who had lied to them, they would protest that they had known all along that the statement was a lie and would admire the leaders for their superior tactical cleverness.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

re: MW@6:33PM

You'll have to remind me who the big proponent of 'clean coal' was.

Luckily, the new administration seems to be pushing hard on nuclear.

Todd Juvinall

Hey guys and gals. Here is the link to the Union Letter by Jeff Kane, local lefty reagrding Trump. Read the comments and put some of your ideas in there. It is really a eye opener.

http://www.theunion.com/opinion/letters/jeff-kane-fake-news-how-about-fake-leadership/

Don Bessee

Well that explains what happened to the dems @ 701. ;-)

fish

Posted by: Mary Wanna | 02 July 2017 at 07:01 PM


Hi Michael......!

Bill Tozer

Scenes @ 7:02 pm

Was it not Obama's EPA that wrote the regs for coal fired plants emissions requiring clean technology that did not exist at the time? Big Bro writes the rules and coal fired generation plants hope the technology becomes available in time for compliance. That is so wrong.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

Important Elizabeth Warren news.

https://i.redd.it/t7jxk68du87z.jpg

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

re: Fish@7:09PM

I think I found a pic of Miss Wanna.

https://i.redd.it/dmwnpdz3gx3z.jpg

fish

Posted by: ScenesFromTheApocalypse | 02 July 2017 at 07:19 PM

She is every bit the Native American that was Espera Oscar de Corti!

fish

Posted by: ScenesFromTheApocalypse | 02 July 2017 at 07:33 PM


Nice.....

Love the Superman jammies!

Walt

LOL! Sending the DNA test back. Yup, I bet she has received plenty by now.
But I got MY results back. Now where did the damned Irish in my genes come from? That is a surprise. ( Plenty of Swedish "redneck". That would be Viking lineage for those who didn't get it. )

fish

Posted by: Walt | 02 July 2017 at 07:54 PM

Any Native American Walt.....1 - 2%.....enough to teach at Harvard as an affirmative action hire?!

Walt

Nope,, not one bit. Surprising, since all of my kin on my Dad's side go back to colonial times, and all the "hits" go right through Eastern and upper Mid West Indian country.

The wife is pissed that even SHE has plenty of Irish/Welsh/Scott.(She's more Druid than Paul) She believed she was ALL German. What made her even more peeved wad a second test from another lab said the same thing. That was a rough few days.

Bill Tozer

Walt. What, you don't want the Irish? Mix some Native American and Irish together and you get a bad drunk with a hot temper. :). Whiskey was created to keep the Irish from ruling the world. It just so happened whiskey kept the Natife Americans from ruling anything as well. I can say that cause of my DNA, others can't. :). Welcome aboard.

https://streamable.com/dgvh

Bill Tozer

The seething is funny to watch. Most entertaining because it is so amusing. Always a silver lining.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1119353241532045/?type=3&theater

Quick, trigger Article 25 now before his policies take hold. It ain't Trump that has the Lefties running around like chickens with their heads cut off. It's his agenda and policies of putting America first that is the real threat that has our cute little Progressive friends running on fear. Pure unadulterated fear. Panic time in Socialist Paradise.

https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913.80726.51560645913/10154830761115914/?type=3&theater.

fish

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 02 July 2017 at 09:15 PM

Maybe the best line in the movie!

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

This might explain a few things.

http://www.taraswart.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Results-of-study-into-journalists-mental-resilience.pdf

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

I ran into a quote I rather like by 'Theodore Dalrymple' on Taki's. It's not a bad way to think about Team Blue when you hear something completely ridiculous uttered. This scans particularly well when applied to 'progressive' behavior at colleges.

"In what sense, then, are we being sovietized? I think the process is subtle and all the more insidious for that. I came to the conclusion when I traveled in what was then the Eastern Bloc that the ubiquitous propaganda was not intended to persuade, much less to inform, but to humiliate; for citizens (if that is the proper word for them under that system) had not merely to avoid contradicting it in public, but actually to agree with it in public. Therefore, from the point of view of the ruling power, the less true and more outrageously false the propaganda was, the better. For to force people to assent to propositions that are outrageously false, on pain of losing their livelihoods or worse, was to crush them morally and psychologically, and thus make them docile, easily manipulated, and complicit in their own enslavement."

Bill Tozer

At least they are trying to keep Walt's cousins safe(r).

https://heatst.com/life/swedish-music-festival-cancelled-next-year-following-a-series-of-sexual-assaults-by-some-men/?mod=sm_fb_post

Back to the topic of the seething Cauldron, per The Apocalypse's 6:58 am

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1122109817923054/?type=3&theater


Bill Tozer

Another one inspired by Scene's provocative 6:58 am

https://www.facebook.com/turningpointusa/photos/a.376802782368444.77256.376776419037747/1347675341947845/?type=3&theater

fish

From the Nations Editor regarding the intrastate Red v Blue split.

"•Mark Baird, the State of Jefferson proponent, is a “former airline pilot,” the article reports, adding “Mr. Baird complains of restrictions on the types of guns he can own. ‘It’s tyranny by the majority.’

After reading Baird’s comments, I figured I was glad I never was a passenger when Baird was in the cockpit."

That's because you are shipped as cargo.

More mindless regurgitation from the guy best equipped to bleat plaintatively about the issues of the day!

Funny to see Pelline complain about government programs!


https://sierrafoothillsreport.com/2017/07/03/the-great-red-north-of-california-where-locals-are-likely-to-receive-more-government-aid-than-in-the-bay-area/

Paul Emery

For your reading pleasure. Trump down 12 in the conservative Rasmussen Poll. Down 12 in three weeks from June 16 when he was dead even. That ws the poll Trump was bragging abut. He's not bragging anymore.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history

Todd Juvinall

Still your President.

Bill Tozer

This will make their heads explode:

California Attorney General Xavier Becerra supports the anti-gun law and stated, “I will defend the will of California voters because we cannot continue to lose innocent lives due to gun violence.” Chuck Michael, the attorney representing the California Rifle & Pistol Association, responded to the judge’s decision saying, “This court recognized that the Second Amendment is not a second-class right and that law-abiding gun owners have the right to own these magazines to defend themselves and their families.”

https://patriotpost.us/posts/49971

And this might make a couple melons burst as well.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1121648381302531/?type=3&theater


Bill Tozer

Polls, polls.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=899415590196733&set=p.899415590196733&type=3&theater

Scott Obermuller

“I will defend the will of California voters because we cannot continue to lose innocent lives due to gun violence.”
'Defend the will of the voters' - BS - He'll only defend the laws he likes. The will of the voters has nothing to do with it. Complete lie.
'we cannot continue to lose innocent lives due to gun violence.'
Really? Because we will - with or without this idiot law.
Stabbings, choking, poisoning, bombings, beatings, being run down by a truck - not a problem with Becerra. Only gun violence bothers him.
Maybe one of our leftists can point out how this law will stop gun violence?
I know - cue the crickets.
As was mentioned earlier - the brain washed rabble will believe anything.

Russ

Victor Davis Hanson: Trump’s High-Stakes Tweeting.

Trump’s occasional uncouthness is a symptom, not a catalyst, of the times. Bill Clinton redefined presidential behavior when he had sexual relations with a 22-year-old, unpaid intern (so much for power imbalances as sexual harassment) in the presidential bathroom off the Oval Office, lied about his recklessness to his family and the country, smeared Monica Lewinsky, and then wheeled out to the Rose Garden feminist cabinet officers like Madeline Albright and Donna Shalala to deny and defend his unsavory predatory behavior. After that sordid episode, the apologetic Left lost all credibility as an arbiter of presidential norms.

Indeed, Clinton had brought us into new debased territory. In contrast, George W. Bush for eight years restored honor, integrity, and decorum to the White House. But he was rewarded for exemplary behavior by being branded a Nazi warmonger, as docudrama films and novels appeared imagining his assassination, and even the likes of John Glenn stooped to the Nazi slurs on his character. (“It’s the old Hitler business.”)

Out of office, Bush professionally kept quiet and busy as an accomplished artist, as Obama moved the country leftward. For that, Bush was ridiculed by the Left as reduced to a bewildered, paint-by-numbers dabbler.

The emeritus Obama, by contrast, frolics on billionaires’ yachts docked off tropical islands with the mega-rich whom he attacks in Wall Street chats for $10,000 a minute—and takes a day off from his wind surfing to weigh in on Trump’s unfitness. For all that, he remains a progressive icon. . . .

Factored into the Trump’s tweeting controversies are other variables mostly left unsaid by the media:

Trump has melted down partisan journalists and left the American progressive media in shambles. It was Obama, not Trump, who established the practice of going after journalists by name, both materially and rhetorically, from surveilling Fox’s James Rosen to using puerile hype to attack Sean Hannity (“You know, I’ll put—I’ll put Mr. Burgess up against Sean Hannity. He’ll tear him up.” [emphasis added]). Obama was angry that a few reporters did not join the cult of Obama worship; Trump is peeved almost no one in the press is disinterested. Trump saw Obama’s precedent, and proverbially trumped it.

CNN is now no longer a news organization, but has been reduced to caricature by Trump hatred. . . .

First, half the country despises the mainstream media and sees it as arrogant, corrupt, hypocritical, and in need of comeuppance. Trump is not running against a centrist populist Democrat like John Kennedy or Harry Truman, but a crude Resistance of foul mouths like Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez and U.S. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.), unhinged celebrities like Maher and Colbert, street theater, thuggery on campuses, and not very bright media talking heads imploding as they try to top their rivals’ hatred for Trump and what he represents.

The whole article is HERE. One more bit:

“Finally, no one has calibrated quite the nation’s deep antipathy toward the coastal media-university-political-cultural nexus, most specifically its utter hypocrisy. Half the country sees not so much Democrats or progressives, but rather a bankrupt class whose venom for others is used to excuse their own exemptions from the ramifications of their own ideology.”

Russ

Some Real News

While the chattering class has been fretting over Trump's Tweets, important things are being ignored. This is from the Conservativetreehouse.com


While the rest of the chattering class have overlooked it, President Trump, Rick Perry, Steven Mnuchin, Wilbur Ross, Robert Lighthizer, Ryan Zinke and Scott Pruitt have already moved America passed “energy independence”.

Stop. Realize what that sentence says.

America has already passed the goal of “energy independence”.

We are now beyond the previously optimistic goal of energy independence. It’s only been 5 months.

We ran past the goal of energy independence so fast, that no-body seemingly noticed it. It’s like a race car lapping the traffic and now positioning for the lead of the pack again. As the crowd watches the race and positioning, the jostling, they seemingly missed, or forgot, the fact the Trump car was so fast it’s already a full lap ahead of the current cars and now back in the pack attempting to lead by two laps.

Stunning.

President Trump’s economic team is now selling energy as an economic export product.

Now, just stop for a moment and contemplate this.

Our national GDP has always been based on the fact we create energy products (oil, gas, coal, renewable etc.), but we have also needed to import energy (traditionally oil). The import aspect reduces the overall economic value of a fully functional GDP. We shipped dollars overseas to pay for energy. Those dollars come from your pocket (gas prices mostly).

The national security angle of this entire issue is transparent, ie. war for oil etc., and we have always been hostage to OPEC pricing, regardless of which political ideology was in power and the relationship therein. In short we’ve always been a customer. No-more.

Dakota Access is approved. Keystone is approved. Multiple new coastal oil refineries are coming on line (Louisiana, Texas), and we are exporting fuel and LNG (Liquified Natural Gas). Light-Sweet Crude is stable at low market value, and U.S. gas prices are at their lowest point in decades with even lower prices yet to come. Oh, and the coal business, driven mostly by export, is up over 7% in less than 3 months.

While he keeps the Progs captive with his Tweets the Cabinet is building and economic powerhouse based on our energy reserves. GO TRUMP! Flying cover while the Cabinet gets the real work done without interference from the Progs who are busy having breakdowns over his Tweets.

Russ

Kurt Schlichter on How to Deal With Trump's Tweets: Stop Caring About Them at Townhall.

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2017/07/03/heres-how-to-deal-with-trumps-tweets-stop-caring-about-them-n2349760

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