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15 November 2017

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Paul Emery

Sorry Gregory your post proves my contention that there are no direct accusations of sexual harassment and involvement with minors. Here's the way your link starts out

"We don't know what Bill Clinton did or didn't do in company with Jeffrey Epstein. But we certainly know what Epstein did and, almost as outrageously, what he got away with doing."

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/262853/why-bill-clintons-26-trips-lolita-express-child-daniel-greenfield

Paul Emery

Wow

Moore trails Jones by 12 in a new Republican poll.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/15/roy-moore-doug-jones-poll-244937?lo=ap_b1

Todd Juvinall

Mppre up six in one poll and ten in another. Also, you accuse Moore without proof. I just saw his news conference. The woman who was with Gloria Allred said she never had contact with Moore after the so-called attack. Turns out he was the Judge who signed her divorce decree in 1999. And it appears the writing on her yearbook was forged. Amazing.

Paul Emery

Well that may be good news for you Todd because he's your guy

George Rebane

So, now it appears that no additional evidence beyond existing allegations is needed to judge the judge - roll out the tumbril!

Todd Juvinall

That is why I now consider Paul Emery a fascist. Guilty until proven innocent.

Todd Juvinall

Oh, and Moore is not my guy but the readers can see how Paul Emery works. He thinks by saying sy=uch a thing that it is true. My position on Moore has nothing to do with him as an accused man but one of innocent until proven guilty, Which Paul Emery, our no called resident fascist has tossed his trash bin.

fish

Your delightfully cynical thought for the day…..


Wouldn't it be ironic if Sessions went back to Alabama and President Trump appointed Judge Moore as Attorney General? Swamp would be drained at light-speed!


Now I'm not sure that the president could get him confirmed but I certainly appreciate the Machiavellian though processes behind the post!

Todd Juvinall

Went looking for the actual poll supposedly done by the Senate Republicans. Can't find it. And why would the "release" news organization be Politico? Smells fishy to me.

Bill Tozer

Well, it certainly is interesting watching this Judge Roy drama unfold. Did he or didn’t he? Only his hair dresser knows for sure.
Trump came out swinging for Luther Strange. Ditch Mitch came out swinging for Luther Strange and 100% non stop throwing haymakers on Roy during the primary to replace Sen. Sessions. As of today, Ditch Mitch is still 100% against the very sight of Roy, all the RINO’s are a’gin him, the entire Industrial Liberal Media Complex is thrusting knives in his back 24/7 headliner news, everybody is screaming for him to drop out by hook or by crook, and he is as popular as the Black Plague. Nobody is defending the guy. Not one surrogate, not one commentator on the entire globe is standing up for the dude. That is what your call being left to dangle in the wind. Judge Roy against the world, the whole wide world.

Hmm. Sounds kinda familiar. Think I used the same words when I described Citizen Trump time and time again. Doesn’t have a prayer, right? One solitary man and a Twitter Machine.

By now everybody who has an opinion has voiced their opinion. Fish was right yesterday or the day before. It don’t look good for Roy. Even the anti-Swamp crowd and anti-Establishment crowd is doing the anti-Moore dance on his head. Media has spoken, Dems have spoken, Republicans have spoken, and the Non-Profit Industrial Complex has spoken. No much else to say. .

Bottomline, it’s now up to the voters of the Great State of Alabama, It’s the only voice that counts. Strike that. It’s now all up to the Deplorables. That is the only thing that counts. Whatever the Deplorables do about that Judge Roy Moore....well, what can I say except the fate of Roy Moore is in their hands. This is great stuff to watch.

Polls all over the place. Punchy’s poll has Moore DOA, toast, don’t bother to show up, Judge Royland. That college poll has Roy up 6 today, another with a double digit lead, another 2 points up, another 2 down. Oh, the drama. A proverbial wet dream for Crisis Junkies and adrenalin whores. It’s game on. One man with his back to the wall against the whole world. And we can only watch from here. That is a good thing. Ball is in your court, Alabama.

Walt

Yet this LIB is arrested, and all the heat is still on Moore.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/15/networks-ignore-dem-candidate-arrested-for-stalking/
"A Democrat running for Congress was arrested on a stalking charge last week, but the media has refused to give the story any coverage.

David Alcon, who is running for an open congressional seat in New Mexico, was arrested this past Friday on a felony stalking charge after a woman accused him of sending her frightening and lewd text messages and showing up at her home. Alcon was previously convicted of stalking his ex-girlfriend in 2007 and was described as “infatuated” and “clearly obsessed” by the judge in the case. "

There is more proof against this LIB than Moore. Yet look who's getting roasted by the press.
Once again LIBS protect their own.

fish

Hmmmm sound like anybody who hangs out here?


"Many Democrats Green Libertarians™ sound ready to rush to impeachment regardless of what Trump has actually done. They seem inspired by the Soviet secret police chief who allegedly declared: “Show me the man and I will show you the crime.” Desperate assertions that $3,000 in Russian-linked Facebook ads swung the election results in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin are indicative of the pathetic logic of many Trump critics.

Many Trump opponents are the same type of zealots who, in the late 1700s, proudly labeled themselves “Friends of Government.” In their eyes, Trump’s greatest sin is tarnishing the majesty of the presidency and the federal government. Trump is exposing the sham of a Leviathan Democracy which pretends that presidents will be philosopher kings — instead of merely talented vote catchers. However, Trump cannot be blamed for destroying Americans’ trust in Washington. This was already achieved by presidents such as George W. Bush and Obama who the media occasionally exalted to the skies.

Trump’s critics are correct that the president has too much arbitrary power. But many people happy to believe the worst about Trump will heave all their skepticism overboard when the next political savior is anointed. Such naivete is being encouraged at the highest levels of the Democratic Party. Recall that Hillary Clinton’s recent book declared that the lesson of George Orwell’s “1984” is that people should trust their leaders and the media.

Hysteria remains the 2017 political badge of honor. Last Wednesday, thousands of people gathered across the nation to shout at the sky to protest the anniversary of Trump’s victory. But righteous rage is no substitute for focusing on the real perils that Trump and any other president poses to our rights. The Friends of Freedom need to keep their intellectual ammo dry."


…with only minor liberties taken with the above text.

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/360368-do-trumps-liberal-critics-seem-increasingly-unhinged

fish

MSNBC Host Has Perfectly Logical Reason For Not Covering Menendez Trial



Hey Punch…ever think about catching on with MSNBC….as a stringer?

I see a crack Green Libertarian™/Functional Socialist™ news team! Right up your alley!


Might be a Murrow in it for ya!



https://hotair.com/archives/2017/11/14/msnbc-host-perfectly-logical-reason-not-covering-menendez-trial/

Paul Emery

Sorry the research was too difficult for you Todd

Here's another link to a RR favorite

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/360535-republican-poll-moore-12-points-behind-democrat-jones

Paul Emery

From the Hill

Moore’s polling lead and favorability have declined since the two NRSC polls conducted prior to the allegations. Surveys from early October and early November had the former state Supreme Court chief justice leading by 16 points and 9 points, respectively.

The release of the poll comes days after the NRSC removed its name from a joint fundraising committee that would help fundraise for Moore with other GOP groups ahead of the Dec. 12 special election.

Todd Juvinall

Oh Paul Emery you just don't get the American way do you?

You supply a link the uses the Politico Article sighting a Republican poll that does not even show up on the Republican link. Really the sleuth aren't you?

Paul Emery

So Todd you are denying that the poll exists?

Todd Juvinall

I read the underlying data and if you can link me to the poll where that is then you might become a gentleman

Walt

I wonder what the excuse will be from Paul, when the "polls*"
he references come back to kick him in the jelly beans?
He sure didn't learn anything from the elections.

Well Paul, nothing to say about the LIB stalker running for office?
Didn't think so....

Bill Tozer

Walt, Punchy does not follow Lib stalkers, nor did he vote for him.

news o' the day

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/report-audio-recordings-show-russian-officials-suggested-bribery-bill-hillary-clinton-exchange-favors/

Bill Tozer

Walt, wait a minute. I see the connection. I can connect the dots. The Lib stalker is from New Mexico. Gary’s Johnson was governor of New (not old) Mexico. Both from New Mexico. Starting to see a direct connection. Punchy voted for Gary’s Johnson, thus Punchy supports the Lib stalker. See, it was that easy. Signed, sealed, and delivered. If you want more proof, why did the Russians not cheer when Gov. Johnson lost? Why, why, why, hmmm. We know the reason why. The Russian colluded with Jill Stein to steal the election from Johnson and the Russians hacked Trump’s e-mails so the Lib stalker will win. I got a link to a comment of a Huff-n-Puff blog that proves it...from very high placed unnamed government officials. Now, where did I put that comment? It was down around comment 287....

Paul Emery

National polls were right on the number Walt. Do you dispute that?

Walt

Really Paul? Trump won. Your "polls" never said that.
"polls" said Trump would never even make it to the nomination.
How did that work out ol'hippie?
"polls" said Trump would never get anywhere, never get the votes, would NEVER be President.
Hell! Even you pal "jon" was never to be heard from again after election night.

Yes Paul, I will dispute anything you say. Even if you say the sky is blue.( Yes,, I WILL check!)

So. How bout you guy Johnson's bud the perv? Still not reporting on that... Got it.. Won't disparage one of your own.

Paul Emery

Never saw anything about Johnson Walt. Can you send me a ink?

Thanks in advance

Todd Juvinall

Where is that link to your poll Paul Emery? And BillT has you pegged right on the money. What a hoot!

Paul Emery

Did he brag about pussy grabbing or feel up 14 year olds? Details Walt.

Clue-Sew

@GeorgeR,,,

’’’So, now it appears that no additional evidence beyond existing allegations is needed to judge the judge - roll out the tumbril’’’

Where do you stand on the Swiftboating of John Kerry???
Is it all good when comes to Swiftboating Libs,,,but,,,but,,,wait a minute,,,how do we know mall pervert Moore is guilty of anything???

Exit question: Where are the defense’s opposing witnesses? Right,,,the fine upstanding Alabamians who can contradict Cowboy Roy’s accusers???

Bill Tozer

This is wrong I tell ya, just plain wrong on so many levels. The dude wears socks depicting cops as pigs, dons a pro-Castro shirt at a presser in Miami, kneels in protest at the National Anthem, all the while JJ Watts organized and raised 26 million greenback-a-dollars for Hurricane Harvey victims (the natural disaster, not other Hurricane Harvey). Now they make pig socks Citizen of the Year. Somebody better fix that, like now.

There. All better now. Nevermind.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1201566729977362/?type=3&theater

Walt

Paul.Second post of that. It's not my problem you don't read it. http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/15/networks-ignore-dem-candidate-arrested-for-stalking/

Todd Juvinall

Gloria Allred refuses to allow a neutral party to examine the yearbook of the babe claiming abuse. Hmmm.

Swift-boaters were honorable men. I watched the one guy debate and destroy Keery way back. And when Kerry threw his medals over the White House fence he sealed his fate. Of course, he became a hero by trashing his fellow soldiers in Teddy Kennedy kangaroo court. So maybe payback ain't so bad?

Walt

LOL!! Clueless wants to defend John K? ( Purple heart for a grain of rice in his ass, got there from the grenade explosion he set off in the rice storage)
You have at it Bunclueless. ( Go back to "Lavender" it fits you.)

Bonnie McGuire

Dr. Rebane...Thanks for the common sense. I regard America to be my home and the people my family. Shouldn't we be more concerned about the welfare of those in our family than what other countries are doing for their families? All nations have responsibility for their family.

fish

Posted by: Clue-Sew | 15 November 2017 at 06:11 PM


’So, now it appears that no additional evidence beyond existing allegations is needed to judge the judge - roll out the tumbril’

A bit of hyperbole on Georges part….there will be no Tumbril….Judge Moore simply won't be seated as a senator.


Is it all good when comes to Swiftboating Libs,,,but,,,but,,,wait a minute,,,how do we know mall pervert Moore is guilty of anything???

I'm sure you were vigorously defending Senator Horse Teeth when this was being done to him. Politics!


Exit question: Where are the defense’s opposing witnesses? Right,,,the fine upstanding Alabamians who can contradict Cowboy Roy’s accusers???

Well you seem to be in the "believe the accusers" camp. I'm sure that you've noodled it through that people who commit these acts generally don't do it in public….. "he said vs. she said" incidents.

Bill Tozer

Interesting quote. Fake Russian collusion narrative? But, but, but the Russians cheered when Trump won. Why, why, why?

“According to reports, Simpson’s attorney denied his client co-wrote the discredited Trump dossier, and did not take an active part in crafting the fake Russian collusion narrative.”

http://www.oann.com/house-intel-committee-learns-a-great-deal-from-fusion-gps-founders-testimony/

Clue-Sew

Oh Walter, you and MyghtyFishy flipping out!!!
Wake up,,, get real,,,if some Congressman is guilty of some weirdness,,,he neeeds to go...the difference between Libs and perv lovers is that Libs will do the right thing and not support the perv. Proof??? I give you Trump!!!

fish

Posted by: Clue-Sew | 15 November 2017 at 06:56 PM


...the difference between Libs and perv lovers is that Libs will do the right thing and not support the perv. Proof??? I give you Trump!!!


We were doing so well Doug.....and then you had to go and spoil it by going and huffing paint thinner.

Bonnie McGuire

Thanks news of the day 5:17 pm. That's pretty obvious despite all of the distractions. Money, money, money. All the baloney, lives and money we've spent allegedly to protect us from the evil enemy who might use atomic weaonry on us while some of our wonderful elite made sure the alleged enemy got what it wanted...for their benefit. The lesson warns us to look closer at why some people are persecuted. I'm reminded of the Obama/Clinton Uranium One deal with Russia, and why people like the Bundy's who lived near these mineral deposits were made out to be criminals...

Bonnie McGuire

And one more thing...Paul Emery, your a nice guy, but don't keep bringing up those polls. They're a phony baloney distraction from the get go created to make dumb people think this or that is popular ...so they'll follow the leader.

Don Bessee

Carlos Danger likes how you think@ 656. ;-)

Todd Juvinall

News today the Congress has a Hush-Fund and used it to pay off 15 million to victims of their sexual abuse.

fish

Wow…..just think….if this guy had done this in Jerry Browns California he might have gotten a ticket.


Hairdresser guilty of trying to infect men on GRINDR with HIV…



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/15/hairdresser-guilty-deliberately-trying-infect-men-met-grindr/

Paul Emery

Walt writes "
So. How bout you guy Johnson's bud the perv? "

What does David Alcon (your link) have to do with Gary Johnson? You seem to have them confused. Your link (6:17) is not about Gary but David c whoever that is.

Scott Obermuller

I sorta', kinda' thought that folks that managed pensions had a fiduciary duty to safe guard the funds and obtain the best return for the fund with prudent investments.
Not in California. CalPERS management has already cost the fund billions by not investing in legal, but politically naughty businesses. Anywhere else this would be an open and shut class action lawsuit slam dunk. Where is the vaunted union SEIU concerning this mess?
Looking out for the employees? NOT!
"Say - look here. We need to be virtue signalling with your pension. You don't mind, do you?"
https://calwatchdog.com/2017/11/08/california-pension-funds-pushed-politicians-divest-gun-industry/

Todd Juvinall

Oh Paul Emery, Walt is just using your strategy and so it must be true. You supported Johnson, he knows the perv, therefore you are a perv pal.

Paul Emery

Todd
Let me walk this back, I voted for Gary Johnson who knows David Alcon (of which there is no evidence. Try googling "Gary Johnson David Alcon") therefore I am a perv. That judgement must apply to everyone that voted for Libertarian Johnson right Todd? That also applies and women libertarians as well. Probably applies to Gregory and maybe Fish who both lean libertarian.

Can you confirm my line of thinking?

Don Bessee

Can you confirm my line of thinking@ 849? That sounds like a question for a lot of individual counseling sessions. ;-)

Paul Emery

Just trying to bond with Todd by confirming that I understand his logic and intellect. I'm reaching out Don.

Todd Juvinall

Not my logic Paul Emery, but yours. That is how you think and I simply am pointing that out.

Paul Emery

I never said you were A perv Todd. I only stated that you like him and he well likes young girls All you have to say is you don't like or support him and that's the end of it

Gregory

"Probably applies to Gregory and maybe Fish who both lean libertarian."
-Punch-E

I don't "lean" LIB, Paul... unlike you, I've been a registered Libertarian Party voter since the early '80's. Was dues paying and card carrying for a time.

You've kept your DEM voter registration, correct, Paul? That's leaning Democratic Party, not Libertarian. Your claim of being a Green Libertarian is, on the face of it, a sham but I do salute your choice to at least pretend to turn your back on the DP.

Clue-Sew

Po' 'ol Trumpski,,,his '''hands''' are so small he needs both to drink a bottle of water!!!!

And it is Fiji water!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aXUawLO9cfw

fish

Posted by: Clue-Sew | 16 November 2017 at 06:01 AM


his '''hands''' are so small he needs both to drink a bottle of water!!!!



…..and yet somewhere the KKK-man is curled up in the fetal position petrified that those stubby digits are on the nuclear button!


…..finger lickin

fish

Gee…..I wonder what changed….what new variable introduced that might account for this?



Crime Wave Engulfs Sweden as Fraud, Sexual Offenses Reach Record



Crap….Swedish society goes to all the trouble to breed out those troublesome Viking genes and for what…..to reintroduce bad behavior from a bunch of dysfunctional 10th century savages with cell phones!



Wonder where "jon" is?


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-16/crime-wave-engulfs-sweden-as-fraud-sexual-offences-reach-record


fish

Holy Dogshit Batman……no presidency for you!


Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It


I didn't vote for Franken Walt and Don! ;-)


http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/

Clue-Sew

Ya Ya,,,MyghtyFishy,,,

Roy Moore must be related to those savages,,,

Got to get those young ones at an early age,,,another thing to complain about the Lib states,,,they have higher ages of consent,,,over-regulating access to young pussy.

Red state breeding programs??? Canada could be a good place to retire!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#/media/File:Age_of_Consent_-_North_America.svg

fish

Posted by: Clue-Sew | 16 November 2017 at 07:38 AM


...over-regulating access to young pussy.


I just thank god that that "young pussy" never had anything to fear from you Doug!

fish

Posted by: Clue-Sew | 16 November 2017 at 07:38 AM


Maybe if you brought some fried chicken……just sayin.


…..finger lickin

fish

…..finger lickin HTML code!

fish

Now this is interesting…..


Denninger is kinda obsessive but he's not stupid….and god help you if you're playing games digital……he will pull that yarn until you have no sweater left!

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=232578

Bill Tozer

@ 7:59 am
1) Ole Gloria is still around? Last I saw her, she was standing with a group of female “victims” offering a $500,000 reward for anyone that had proof that Trump grabbed them...unwanted/unwelcomed grabbing of course. Please come forward, please, oh, please!

2). Ouch, ROTFLMAO!
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1201967919937243/?type=3&theater

fish

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 16 November 2017 at 08:22 AM


1) Ole Gloria is still around?


Yeah….just look for the cloven hoof prints!

Clue-Sew

Here ya go birthers,,, deniers,,, conspiracy phreaks,,,from your own Fox News!!! Sorry for you Uranium One witch hunters,,,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnsAZzsdI1U

Walt

LOL!!! The Progressive witch hunt is now rounding up Proggys to burn at the stake. POOR Al.. A picture is worth removal from office.
Any pictures yet of Moore?
Ol' Steve better have kept his paws to himself. This rampage of women pointing fingers of indiscretions past,(no bloody way to prove it) may catch him and his deep pockets. It's all about the accusation. Proof be damned. All it takes in one ECO chick volunteer down on her luck to make up something.

Hay Doug,, how bout YOU??? Take any "questionable" photos?
Yup,, even you can wind up with a pile of brush around your feet.
You did tell me once your "self insured". That takes deep pockets too. Your video camera got you in trouble once (that we know of) already. Tough days dude,,, tough days.....

fish

Posted by: Clue-Sew | 16 November 2017 at 09:03 AM

……..Real Meal for Five Bucks!

Walt

Well Clueless,, this is from FOX too.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/16/al-franken-accused-kissing-groping-la-tv-host-without-consent.html

Todd Juvinall

Stuart Smalley is in big trouble.

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery, let's hear your squealing on your hero Al Franken. And there is even a picture!

fish

To quote Mr. Juvinall……what a hoot!

https://kek.gg/i/6Q6cnh.jpeg

Clue-Sew

Walter,,, was Franken groping a 16 year old??? ,,,if ol' Al has been bad,,,that's on him!!!

Bill Tozer

Todd, Punchy’s OCD will not let him rest until you say, “If proven true, I cannot support Roy Moore because of my principles.” Until then, you are both a child rapist supporter and a Putin Cuddler. This is fun watching our Popinjay hit it from every angle day after day. He is certainly a persistent fellow until he gets what he wants. BDS really got stuck in his caw. He was tormented by it daily all through those long eight years of Barry’s Frosted O’s demanding someone, anyone here would join him in the song, “Bush lied, Bush lied!” Nope, he never got that which he sought. But then Citizen Trump came along and the fun starts all over again.

Lets see how many weeks and days he will wake up thinking about you snuggling with Roy Moore on satin sheets and go to bed thinking about you supporting the accused...and all those precious minutes in between. Todd, you can stop his torment at anytime....just say those magic words. But, one thing I have never had was too much fun. Keep up the good work.

Walt

Right.. Clueless (that sure fits you)
With what you have done in the past, I would use a fake name too.

fish

Posted by: Clue-Sew | 16 November 2017 at 10:03 AM


You know what would be awesome……if you had a picture of that to go along with that yearbook entry forgery!

Walt

What works like Viagra for Billy? "a binder full of women"
Now creepy "Uncle" Joe is back in the news.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/16/left-turns-on-bill-clinton-biden-over-behavior-toward-women.html

Now don't forget this!
https://nypost.com/2015/04/20/menendez-co-conspirator-hosted-bill-and-hillary-at-vacation-getaway/
Good money says Hillary liked to watch.
But since it happened outside the U.S.,,, "no crime"... Right Paul?

Walt

Mitch McConnell's double standard.. Why am I not surprised?
Anything and everything to ruin Moore and to keep him from getting seated,(with nothing but an allegation to stand on)
yet McConnell pets diaper boy's behind.Just a review is called for.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/16/mitch-mcconnell-calls-for-ethics-review-of-franken-allegations-no-call-yet-for-his-removal/

Todd Juvinall

Clue-Sew | 16 November 2017 at 10:03 AM

My my my, 16 was of legal age though we don't like that here in Cali. But the woman was asleep and Al Franken groped her. Kind of like a Roofie attack Clue. You are a sick bastard.

BillT 1006
Thanks for the support. It is hard to resist the Paul Emery "full court press" to not say what he wants. Gestaapo tactics of his are tough. Anyway, I do think he lost his noggin about Bush and it is still dictating his behavoir. But now we have Franken, A Paul Emery hero so using his logic he must be in support of groping sleeping women.

fish

Here you go Doug….maybe Big Al will follow in this guys footsteps?

https://pjmedia.com/trending/ohio-state-rep-resigns-inappropriate-behavior-man-office/

Clue-Sew

Hey!!! Where is the ol' fake stockbroker these days,,,drowning his sorrows a bottle of cheap wine???,,, now that Nevada City has approved a marijuana dispensary???

Clue-Sew

Yo,,, conspiracy nutters,,,Russia lovers,,,

''',,,Mueller’s team is investigating a series of deals Trump struck, including the Trump Organization’s failed SoHo development that involved Russian nationals, the 2013 Miss Universe pageant in Moscow, and the president’s sale of a Palm Beach estate in 2008. All three deals have drawn scrutiny for their ties to Russian interests; as Craig Unger outlined for the Hive, the 2014 Trump SoHo development is likely of interest to Mueller thanks to the involvement of Felix Sater—a Moscow-born, Russian-American businessman who did time for stabbing a man in the face with a margarita glass—and the now-defunct company he worked for, the Bayrock Group. Similarly, Russian developer Aras Agalarov, whose son Emin helped broker the controversial Trump Tower meeting last June between Donald Trump Jr. and Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, paid $20 million to bring Miss Universe to Moscow. And Russian fertilizer magnate Dmitry Rybolovlev bought the Florida mansion for a staggering sum of $95 million in 2008—despite Trump having paid just $41 million for the property four years prior.'''

fish

Posted by: Clue-Sew | 16 November 2017 at 11:18 AM


Well you make sure and get back to us when Mueller scores a few convictions Doug….

Todd Juvinall

Oh my, what does the Russian collusion investigation have to do with any of that. Meuller will be getting the boot if he comes up with nothing but oldtime stuff. Fairness has to prevail.

Bill Tozer

RE: Sexual Accussations in general.
One thing that really sunk in during the OJ Simpson murder trial has a statement uttered by Alan Dershowitz. The prosecution had laid out a good case and now it was time to fry OJ. Slam dunk in my eyes. Defense hadn’t even stated their case yet. But then Dershowitz came on the boob tube and taliked about the engine of cross examination.

The engine of cross examination was the way to get truth, even though it looked like OJ’s case hadn’t a chance at the time. The engine of cross examination grinding and chewing until the truth appears, not the truth as one side sees it. Boy, Alan D.pissed me off me off that night, throwing water on my fire, but Alan was right and I was wrong. Guess he was saying, “wait and see;” something that if practiced here, opens one up to charges (wild accusations) of condoning bad behavior. Silence used to be golden, but I digress.

Dershowitz was right. With daily, nay almostly hourly, accusations of sexual harassment coming out of the woodwork everywhere one turns, I am concerned that the engine of cross examination may be lost as a tool to get to the truth....or at least closer to the truth.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/why-campus-rape-tribunals-hand-down-so-many-guilty-verdicts/article/2010401

On a more upbeat note, you go girl! My kind of woman. Chase that pig and make him squeal.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/11/14/salt-lake-city-jogger-stabs-man-who-groped-her-during-morning-run/

Paul Emery

What Franked did was unacceptable but there are distinct differences.


Al deserves his consequence and has volunteered to appear at an ethics investigation and has apologized and accepted the wrongness of his deed. The woman he groped has accepted his apology as well. Moore is alleged to have molested children in his locked car and has not expressed remorse as did Franken.

Todd Juvinall

Sure Paul Emery. We know you will do all you can to under-report and make excuse.

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 16 November 2017 at 11:37 AM


Moore is alleged to have molested children in his locked car and has not expressed remorse as did Franken.


Well he's still not admitting to it Punch so you probably shouldn't hold your breath for remorse just yet! You're right though, Al deserves his consequence…..resignation perhaps!

Any opinion on the yearbook forgery just now coming to light?


Bill Tozer

Seems to me that the difference is Roy Morre’s accusers were not passed out at the time of the “feeling her up.” The other difference is Franken admits he done it, while Moore is screaming he is innocent. The difference between the former state Supreme Court Justice and the former comedy writer turned Senator is photographic evidence, aka, the smoking gun. Kinda hard to not cop to that.

George Rebane

An alleged and denied (by accused) act = A documented and acknowledged (by accused) act.

Walt

Bunclueless is out of Russian dressing.. Not one Rusky hooker has come forward.. Why Capt. Clueless? WHY???(not)

Walt

Who would like to be at the family Thanksgiving dinner here?
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/16/exclusive-stepson-of-roy-moore-accuser-accusations-one-hundred-percent-a-lie/

Mamma be fibbing!

Walt

Man O man.. butthurt?
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/11/16/school-nixes-boys-fake-news-t-shirt-on-field-trip-to-cnn.html
As they say,,, "F"m if they can't take a joke.

fish

Second Woman Says Franken Aggressive, Harassing Calls...

FLASHBACK: 'I just don't like homosexuals. I was glad when that homosexual got killed'...

Joked About DRUGGING, RAPING Lesley Stahl?

Praised 'Beautiful' Accuser on Senate Floor…


Hmmmm? What do you think Punch……based on your constant complaining about the "pussy grab" I have to reconsider! All these incidents make Al Franken seem almost presidential!

Except the part about homosexuals….Trump seems Ok with them!

I wonder how Minnesota could send such a homophobe to the senate though! Reliable progressive state and all!

Bill Tozer

Union Hill on lockdown

Paul Emery

Haven't heard bout that one Fish. Busy today, Can you provide a link?

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 16 November 2017 at 12:59 PM


Its upthread Punch. Alternatively you could type in yearbook forgery and I'm sure it will come up!

Bill Tozer

All this talk of sexual “misconduct” and the chorus of demands that the accused step aside (Al Frankfurten, are you listening?) resign in disgrace, get the boot, be banned, barred, screwed, blued, and tattooed is coming full circle. Thus, it does not bode well for My Gal, a former two time failed Presidential candidate. With all of Hillary’s trashing and smashing of Bill’s accusers, the third time may not be the charm for her. Looks like Bubba’s actions with all those woooomen are back under the spotlight. Kinda hard not to be included and swept up in the house cleaning....and boy o’ boy, are the fairer gender ever in a cleaning out the closet mood. It’s about time.

Q: What happened? A: Hillary is getting schlonged again...by her husband. Wonder why she did not blame him in her last book? Maybe she will in her next book.

Gregory

"Moore is alleged to have molested children in his locked car and has not expressed remorse as did Franken".


One woman (not children or plural) alleged she was groped in his car, and that he locked it at one point. She was at or past the age of consent in AlaBAMA which made her not a child in the eyes of the law. Moore denies it and, while I suspect the victim is being honest about her recollections, I also suspect Moore never saw his actions as she did then or now. No allegation of being raped was made.

I didn't catch that any of the Moore victims who have come forward said they had intercourse with Moore.

Years ago, a gay congressman diddled young men below the age of consent in California but above the age of consent in Washington DC, where the kids were employed as pages in the Congress. When Gerry Studds (what a name) died he was lionized as the first openly gay congresscritter.

Again, Paul... why the double standards? Is it better than to not have any standards at all?

I'm not voting in the Alabama race next month and care little about the outcome.

Bill Tozer

Give Punchy time to get the talking points. When the Yellow Shower/Golden Shower Dossier funding (and author) came under fire, the Liberal Media sites that Punchy laps up and carries water for came up with, “it’s not who wrote the dossier or who funded it that is important, it is what it contains that is important”

Three or four hours later Punchy defended the now discredited Russian Collusion Dossier by stating (paraphrase) it is not who wrote the dossier that is important, but the contents therein that is of importance. Smooth.

Give Punchy time to see if there is a follow up to the first trail ballon. Let’s see how the Twitter world accepts it first.

Little known fun fact: Christopher Steele uses the troll ha dale “I. P. Freely” on blogs. Or perhaps not.

fish

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 16 November 2017 at 01:09 PM


A: Hillary is getting schlonged again...by her husband.


How horrible……for both of them.

Bill Tozer

That did not take long. Verdict is in. Al Frankurter’s apology not good enough. Need another pound of flesh. They want more.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/16/politics/franken-apology/index.html

Paul Emery

Fic\sh

that one is easy to find. I was refering to

Second Woman Says Franken Aggressive, Harassing Calls...

FLASHBACK: 'I just don't like homosexuals. I was glad when that homosexual got killed'...

Joked About DRUGGING, RAPING Lesley Stahl?

Praised 'Beautiful' Accuser on Senate Floor…

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