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13 December 2017

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Generalissmo Covfefe

8dec17Sandbox,,,@Piper Laurie's Former Shrink,,,Yes Doc,,,’’’Bannonism and Trumpism will end up on the ash heap of history’’’.
Piper Laurie must have been an interesting case,,,I can see why she would need help after being ‘’’sexually initiated’’’ by Ronald Reagan,,,traumatic indeed!!!
The Roy Moore defeat is emblematic of the wackadoodlism ideologies of birthers,,,deniers,,,baggers,,,minutemen,,,Arpiao lovers,,,evangelical RightToLifers and WestboroChurchers,,,and other redneck cracker fringe thinkers.
Our White Trash President needs to spend some more time on his gold plated throne in his gilded penthouse outhouse and ponder his boorish attitudinal leanings...

http://www.businessinsider.com/roy-moore-screw-you-and-horse-alabama-2017-12

jon smith

What happened in Alabama? What's there to ask beyond the obvious?

A Republican pedophile got fired in one of America's hotbeds of uneducated, racist, and homophobic voters. The heart of Trump country. If it can happen in 'bama, it can happen anywhere and Republicans are crapping their pants over it. I loved Trump's tweet, "I knew he wouldn't win." What a child. Reminds me of a local tool who got ousted after a single term as a county sup, then ran for assembly because, as he said, "I am very popular." Apparently not popular with people who vote - note even among Republicans! What a stooge!!

Bill Tozer

Before Alabama sucks all the oxygen out of the room, I will stray off the thread and talk about hybrid cars and the gas tax.

[If you own an older vehicle that is fueled by gas, you’re paying gas tax to maintain the roads. Someone who has an electric vehicle or a dramatically more fuel efficient vehicle is paying much less than you are. But they are still using the roads,” Wiener said.

“People are going to use less and less gas in the long run,” according to Wiener.

And less gas means less gas tax, and less money for road repair.]

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/12/11/california-considers-mileage-tax/

Seems to me that taxing electric cars at the charging pump could be circumvented by drivers simply charging up at home or at work or at play (at a friend’s house or carry a small portable generator). Love the pics on the net of an all electric car on the side of the road hooked up to a portable generator. Add a small generator to the flares, orange triangles, and other stuff in the emergency road kit.

Seems to me that if the last gas hikes were for maintaining roads, then all would be ok. But, monies are earmarked and siphoned off for building thousands of low income housing units, covering the shortage in projected carbon tax revenue, and dishing out gas tax money to pay the immediate hole in unfounded liabilities. Gotta keep those checks coming to our retired and current public servants. Opps, I forgot the 80 billion hole for the bullet train which will be so expensive for commuters that only business class can afford to ride the train regularly.

Robert Cross

I heard about a "mileage tax" to compensate for electric cars. Not sure how that would be implemented.

Todd Juvinall

You will sign a form under penalty of perjury to verify your mileage.

George Boardman

One thing that's obvious from the Virginia and Alabama results is that Trump has motivated people who were indifferent to election outcomes or voted third party to rise up against him. This is not a good trend for Republicans.

jon smith

Todd- VMT taxes are most commonly tied to on-board GPS or smart phones logging into a small milage recorder and transmitter. VMT tax rates can change with time of use, and county by county. If, theoretically, I was to live in Truckee but 80% of my miles were driven in Nevada, the GPS or cell phone would eliminate California taxation. VMT taxes are used in many countries and have been explored in Oregon using volunteers. Not sure where you came up with signing some "form under penalty of perjury." Probably just another off the top of your head lie.

It appears Trump is a powerful get-out-the-vote engine for non-Republicans. 20% of voting in Alabama was done by first time voters sickened by the Republican regime. Bannon and Trump campaigning was only icing on the cake for Dem recruiters.

George Rebane

'Free markets don't work, look at all its faults.' claims the Left. Well, RR has always tried to explain to these folks that we don't really have free markets any more, they are all tightly controlled. And where some more such freedoms are detected, government jumps in with more regulated restrictions. Here's a recent example in which insurance companies can neither determine insurance risk nor charge appropriate premiums to riskier customers. Government is removing insurance companies ability to use the discriminants of education and occupation to set premiums. This removes a critical Bayesian decision process that will now make the company's entire customer base pay for the added costs of payouts to riskier cohorts of insurance buyers. More here -
https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-car-insurers-cant-ask-you-when-setting-your-rates-1513170000

Todd Juvinall

Well the democrats learned from the fiasco of Obama, didn't they? Obama presided over historic wipeouts og his party at all levels down to dog catcher. I give them credit for the new strategy f sexual harassment. But it will backfire as Moore is a outlier and most demcats are not.

Paul Emery

No problem Todd with Moore being an outlier. Our President will carry the torch for pussy grabbers and keep the flame alive.

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 13 December 2017 at 11:36 AM


Geez what a eunuch!


It's OK Paul…..no need to be afraid of girls…..!

fish

Posted by: jon smith | 13 December 2017 at 09:23 AM


It's going to be fun reading the after action report from Bammy……how many resources were thrown at this race to seat a guy who will likely work much better with the conservatives….such as they are!

Todd Juvinall

The hysteria of the democrats about Alabama cracks me up. A blue guy in a red state? I recall When a Mr. Brown took the Massachusetts Senate in a special election. That state has not one R in the federal system. Anyway, the left pooh-poohed his victory and of course the next "general election" put a D back. Elizabeth Warrewn. Same thing happened in Hawaii. Same results. But no hysteria by the press. I wonder why?

Hey Paul Emery, you "pussy grabber" Bill Clinton is revered and loved by your ilk. Explain that for us, please?

Walt

Better make your drive to Nevada to get your ammo NOW.
It will be criminal come next year to buy cheaper ammo across state lines. But weed? No problem. Only a Progressive thinks those are good ideas.

fish

Posted by: Walt | 13 December 2017 at 12:08 PM


California just created their newest black market! You think they would have learned after all those smoke shops popped up just over the state line when they started taxing the shit out of cigarettes…..but no!

Gregory

My rebuttal to an Other Voices that erred last week in calling me out:
https://www.theunion.com/opinion/letters/greg-goodknight-more-on-climate-change/

By the wackadoodle at 922, that makes me a redneck cracker. But I ain't.

jon smith

Walt- Nevada doesn't share information with California. Come January I'm going to buy a few bricks (not weed) from Cabela's in Verdi and let the cops figure out which state my ammo came from. This is a useless, toothless law. Knowing you put one over on Sacramento It will only make it all the more fun to shoot bootleg ammo.

fish

Posted by: Gregory | 13 December 2017 at 12:22 PM


Yes….the man of a thousand personalities posts boldly from his fortified compound! I thought he'd be busy as Santa this month!

Bill Tozer

“that makes me a redneck cracker. But I ain't”

Sure, Gregory, sure. Tell that to your Westbrook Baptist Church buddies. Skunk smells his own first. ;). If that makes you an inbred redneck that likes to keep it in the family and roll your own, then this link makes me...I dunno, some kind of guy walking around with a horse whip, wearing his favorite wife beater tee shirt out hunting down gays and people that look different than me.....darkies and albinos! We got got branded by the 922 (previous Sandbox).

Actually, there is a lot of truth in this the meme if one looks at the first and second wave of feminism and compares it to the third and now quasi “new” fourth wave....over the longer term. On the shorter team, you can substitute the word ‘Femimism’ with acronym ‘TDS’.

Anyway, brand away. Misogynist for starters will work. Whatever I am, I am sure it is in the all encompassing term of endearment; the basket of Deplorables.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1218465094954192/?type=3&theater

I don’t know about the rest of ya, but I am growing tired of all this sex and sexual perversion talk. Hey, they say men think about sex every 7 or 9 seconds all day long anyway, so why add more to the mix? Silly me, wasted words. Pussy grabbing is back and Russia Derangement Syndrome is in full swing for the near term and long term.
Why not just combine pussy grabbing with the Russians and call it...I dunno...Pussy Riot or something.

Scenes from the Apocalypse

re: Jon Smith @ 9:23AM

"What happened in Alabama? What's there to ask beyond the obvious?"

Basically fairly close race with a poor (R) candidate. The interesting story here is not so much any kind of referendum on Trumpism (whatever that is) but the movement in the West from politics based on economics to politics based on ethnicity. Look at the demographics of the vote and your question is answered. Once the sides are formed up and of fairly equal strength, expect the civil unrest to crank up to the extent it always does in these cases.

re: Electric car taxes. My bet is that the politically well-connected smog bidness will find some way to stay alive. You'll probably find yourself going in every two years to check your tire pressure and miles driven. The obvious next step is safety inspections by those garages.

Don Bessee

The 85th record close for the 24k DOW since election day! 24,585 25k AND tax cuts for Christmas? ;-)

Robert Cross

The stock market report is just great Don... what is going to happen when it corrects for reality... like the housing mortgage market? Of course it is going up.. with the EPA, Dept. Of Interior, and other governmental functions being depleted an/or eliminated the corporations are going to reap a windfall.. until the shit hits the fan.. like it did in Alabama.. The people obviously are getting tired of the grifters.. the trick will be when to sell. Keep in mind the Dow only represents 30 companies of the thousands of stocks available. Not all are doing as well as those 30.

In other news from the "no nepotism here" dept... it seems that Trump's "not qualified" nominee for a judicial post is the husband of the chief of staff for the White House Counsel. The not qualified nominee has since withdrawn his nomination. Do the Kushners and Donnie Jr. get paid or are they just cashing in on their "access" to the President?

fish

Posted by: Robert Cross | 13 December 2017 at 01:15 PM

In other news from the "no nepotism here" dept... it seems that Trump's "not qualified" nominee for a judicial post is the husband of the chief of staff for the White House Counsel. The not qualified nominee has since withdrawn his nomination.


Wow…..with chutzpa like that you would think it was a democrat doing the nominating!


….thanks bobby!

jon smith

SAP 1:02- You might be correct, except this happened in Alabama where Republicans have only had to run against each other in the primaries and whomever won the primary was a shoe in for office because Dems were irrelevant. Jones did not win because he was a strong candidate, Moore lost because he, Trump, and Bannon were able to piss of enough Dems of all colors that they got off their lazy asses and voted in numbers for once. I say lazy because Alabaman's both black and white have perfected laziness to an art form.

That's fantastic news Bozo @ 1:04. The Dow has tripled in value over the past 8 years and you can only look back to election day? How about Bitcoin? Is Trump going to take credit for the rise in value of a currency largely bought as a hedge against the inevitable correction of traditional markets? BTW, how 'bout your prediction that you could buffalo the local MJ market? Even Scofield has thrown in the towel and NCCC is considering tripling the number of MJ companies in town.

Don Bessee

The cross one makes stating the obvious sound like a new found discovery. Selling at the right time and looking for dividends are basics of investing. DUH! The jobs rates and the DOW are reflective of regulation rollback and the newfound optimisms impact on expansion and investments by the corporations that populate our 401k's. Before the cross one screams its 0's efforts, just go back and check the optimism and future growth plans of businesses in Oct 2016. Bobbie must be cross because he sold off on Nov 9th 2016 like someone else we know. ;-)

Todd Juvinall

Scott Browne in Massachusetts and that Hawaii special are the same as the Alabama vote. Just a small interlude for the other side.

Todd Juvinall

The left conveniently forgets Quantitative Easying. Where trillions of dollars were printed and used to buy bonds freeing up money to put into the stock market. All phony. But it was a Obama policy so who cares.

Don Bessee

Bitcoin = tulip bulb bubble. ;-)

Walt

J.Smith. You can bet the state is training ammo sniffing dogs as we speak. The bug stations will just add one more thing to look for.
You can bet your Dem. ass the cops WILL be looking for that ammo, and you better have a receipt for any ammo in that car coming from Nev. (or Or.,,OR Az.)
The more people the state can make criminals out of they will.

Funny how CH.3 in Sac. still has the magazine ban in effect (anything over 10) Someone needs to inform THE NEWS that that law was struck down.

Scenes from the Apocalypse

re: Jon Smith@1:42PM

I suspect that the voter turnout was high only for a special election and was roughly what a Presidential year would bring out. It's pretty likely that it'll be (D) seat for only the next two years but you never know.

What was most interesting is that it was a pure play in the election of the future. 100% opposition research in terms of a candidates words and deeds (whether true or not) in terms of treatment of people who are not white males..who themselves voted 75% for Moore. A truly crummy candidate, but they are going to vote for Their Guy. There's a certain logic to this since nearly all governing is carried out by bureaucrats and a sprinkling of capricious judges, the candidates themselves are merely a reflection of group membership rather than conduits for public policy.

As identity politics becomes more the order of the day, and the factions become more nearly equal in power, you can expect increasing pressure on the system over time. The US may not evolve into a larger Yugoslavia, but it sure can rhyme.

Paul Emery

For your reading pleasure: Trump continues to drop in consensus polls.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

Last nights Alabama Senate vote reflects the effects of historic negative polling Trump and shows that support from him is a negative factor. this is the third major election that Trumps guy has lost. First Gillespie in Virginia then Luther Strange in the Alabama Primary and yesterday Roy Moore.

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 13 December 2017 at 03:25 PM


….still your president Punch!


PS: Did you see any icky, gross girls today?

Bill Tozer

I have another take on Alabama.
First, before my take, I feel compelled to say I have deep relief that Alabama (the entire state, its name, and all its residents) was spared the wrath and derision of 24/7 carpet bombing from the Industrial Media-Entertainment Complex and academia. Never been to Alabama, have no dog in the fight. but they would have ripped Alabama to shreds, substituting the punch lines of Pollock jokes or Moron jokes for Alabama jokes. It just seems so unfair what the State would have had to endure if Moore won. It would have been brutal.

Now, my take. AL is a very conservative religious (Christian) state, including the poor and black residents. The black community is quite conservative and Christian, all in all. You won’t hear this on the news, but the election was about Christian Values. The Roy Moore election was all about sex scandals, nothing more or nothing less. The only issue. The people did not vote for Jones, but instead the people voted against the hypocrisy of a man whose public persona was Christian Values. They don’t kindly to that.

You can say that the Conservative Christians rose up and rejected Moore to preserve Christian and Conservative Values. The conservative Christians of Alabama, including the black folks, simply voted against sending Moore to DC with those allegations hanging around his neck. It’s was not about Right vs Left. Liberal vs Conservative. It was all about Christian Values, Christian values, Southern values, if you will. Yes, Moore had a very good showing for being such a bad candidate (almost won) and Moore was the anti-establishment candidate when he won the primaries over RINO Mitch’s Luther Strange. That was, as we all know, was before any allegations. And, yes, there were other factors in play as there always are. The morality issue carried the day. Christian Values.

Need proof? Need to know why I say it was not a Left vs. Right election? Sessions won re-election to the Senate by something like 97% of the vote, lol. That was not all that long ago. And what most folks forget is that Sessions owned the illegal alien issue on the Right until he stepped aside to become the Attorney General. The black community does not support illegal immigration, not by a long shot. Never have. It’s was the repulsive nature of the allegations against Moore that cut against the grain of conservative Christian Alabama.

Just look at the Senator from AZ, Flake, Fluke, Fake, or whatever his name is. The incumbent senator ain’t running again. His polling shows he will be defeated easily in the primaries. He is quitting when his term expires. The anti-establishment mood is alive and kicking, against the RINOs on my side of the aisle. The Establishment R’s promised to repeal Obamacare, control the borders, and a bunch of stuff. They never intended to deliver. Flake is gone, McCain as well.
It was not a populist movement that propelled Trump easily over all his 18 R opponents. It was an anti-RINO movement which continues strong to this day. Alabama had nothing to do with Jones. It was about values, Christian values, conservative values. Mitch and the RINOs spent millions trashing Mo Brooks, a very good man. Mo said he would not support Mitch for Senate Majority Leader. They (R’s) trashed Mo, rallied against Mo and rallied behind Luther Strange, who said he definitely supports Mitch. Moore was the default candidate. The Tea Party has not gone anywhere. We those on the Right) still need to have our debate, a Republican internal debate, on what it means to be a conservative. Are you listening Mitch? You meddled and it blew in.your face.


Bill Tozer

Welcome home, Fish and Scenes. Speaking for Fish, we missed ya. Scenes, do me a favor and run some clips of Trey today. It’s fire and brimstone. Thanks. They wanted an investigation that was independent of the Justice Department and Administration. Well, they certainly got that. What we didn’t get was an independent investigation independent of TDS. Got to run.

Don Bessee

I guess you cant question a lefty-

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/13/cuomo-calls-female-reporters-harassment-question-disservice-to-women.html

;-)

Walt

Scenes has come out of witness protection! Nice to see ya' back.

Todd Juvinall

Looks like the American people have more trust in Trump than they do in "punchy's" profession of media.

https://morningconsult.com/2017/04/28/political-media-earns-poor-marks-americans/

Scenes from the Apocalypse

" run some clips of Trey today."

Oddly enough, I did exactly that this afternoon. I like the cut of his jib, but always wondered if his dressing downs actually do a bit of good. Those highly partisan DOJ apparatchiks are just going to do a bit of Newspeak, wait for the Congressman's time to run out, and go home to a nice dinner.

The establishment really does want to bring down the President due to his many crimes (improved economy, dealing with ISIS, stuck in the mud with healthcare, potentially something of a pussy grabber and other heinous deeds) and some ex-District Attorney from South Carolina isn't going to budge that leviathan. I wish I knew more about what drives the so-called Deep State. It can't simply be the installation of a POTUS who is against essentially unrestricted immigration, which seems to be the prime irritant to the crazies in the urban areas (plus a few in the hinterland).

Walt

Nope,, just can't tax us fast enough. I'm sure this money is going to go to fixing roads too.
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/12/11/california-considers-mileage-tax/
Time to start driving the old beater as the daily driver. I can disconnect the speedometer.

I'm sure the "poor" will have a free ride.

Gregory

"For your reading pleasure: Trump continues to drop in consensus polls."
Punchy, 3:25pm

The polls have been continuing to drop since July, when Trump first hit the 41% he hit today.

That's sideways motion, Paul. Not a continued drop. It's been in a narrow range for weeks and months.

Innumeracy is endemic among musicians. Also among newsreaders in lefty public radio stations.

Scenes from the Apocalypse

"I want to believe the path u threw out 4 consideration in Andy's office-that there's no way he gets elected-but I'm afraid we can't take that risk.It's like an insurance policy in unlikely event u die be4 you're 40"

oops.

Bill Tozer

Hello. My name is Jessica Leeds, I am a Trump sexual assault victim. I just happen to be a Clinton foundation secretary and Hillary’s friend.

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/964940510322838/?type=3&theater

Trumps groped woman in front of Ray Charles. Sweet.
https://www.chicksonright.com/2017/12/12/new-accuser-claims-trump-groped-her-in-front-of-ray-charles/

That was just fluff. The real story, the big story, is the corrupt ties of the FBI and senior officials at the Justice Department with Fusion-GPS to take actions to aid, assist, and facilitate the victory for one political canidate (HRC) over the other in a democratic US Presidential election.

Bill Tozer

PS:...and to nullify the results of a fairly elected President. A political coup is in the works. Now, what did the previous President know and when did he know that he knows?

Walt

At what point does this become subversion?

Scott Obermuller

While the left wants to make Alabama 'the next big thing' - You Caly-fornykators might want to check out reality.
https://calcoastnews.com/2017/12/slo-considers-raising-taxes-marijuana-cover-budget-deficit/
A reduced workforce - higher taxes - reductions in salary.
And tax dope to the moon. Addicts will pay almost anything? Right?
SLO is just one of hundreds of cities and munis that are facing financial ruin.
Can't blame it on Trump, folks. Deal with it or don't. Your choice.

Paul Emery

Gregory

I know you're trying to put a smiley on the dismal Trump job approval numbers but the fact is from Jan 26 when the first consensus poll was taken to today his disapproval have risen form 44 to 58, a huge drop by any estimation. Even in Alabama where he defeated Hillary by nearly 30% he was unable to exert enough influence to put Moore over the top. That's a manifestation of weakness.

No smiley here. Trump is historically down in approval polls and last nights election is evidence of that.


Todd Juvinall

I don't think you are making any impact on we who could care less about the polls. You are pedantic and boring.

Gregory

Paul, you're trying to put a "smiley" on your innumeracy. The drop in Trump's poll numbers was due to the campaign to delegitimize the election.

Remember Morning Joe's line that there was one candidate under investigation on election day November 2016, and it wasn't Hillary?

Think Punchy... was that true?

https://crooksandliars.com/2017/03/election-day-trump-was-only-one-under-fbi

Gregory

"he was unable to exert enough influence to put Moore over the top."

And that was after he didn't quite have the oomph to get Moore to lose the primary to Strange, who would have walked away with the election. Moore was also winning handily when the Swiftboating started.

How many times did we here him called a "pedophile", which is a serious mental illness that is impervious to cure... a sexual interest in prepubescent children. Not dating (without intercourse) a post-pubescent girl of a marriageable age (remembering, this was 'Bama). Do I really believe his protestations that he didn't even know the girl? No. And nothing in his political past would cause me to want to vote for him for dogcatcher, let alone a Senate seat.

But he got screwed... there is one reason, and one reason alone, that Allred held her client back until it would be too late to change the candidate... this was bareknuckled political machinations.

Paul Emery

Well Gregory record low job approval polling is the reality in the end. There is always a reason that things go bad.
Interesting to see you reference to "swiftboarding" as to the fate of Moore. You must agree then that what the Bush team did to John Kerry was equally devious because that's where the term came from.

Gregory

The "job" approval rating Trump enjoyed early on was a natural American coming together for the new president. It fell apart when the attacks started. Remember the guffawing when Trump made the claim that Comey told him three times he was not under investigation? The story (the fictional story) from the left has been that Trump colluded with Putin to win the election. I ain't seen evidence of it yet... have you?

I made no mention of "swiftboarding" [sic] Paul.

Gregory

Remember Morning Joe's line that there was one candidate under investigation on election day November 2016, and it wasn't Hillary?

Think Punchy... was that true?

https://crooksandliars.com/2017/03/election-day-trump-was-only-one-under-fbi

Paul Emery

Gregory

this is your quote I do believe from 8:11

Memory problems?

"Moore was also winning handily when the Swiftboating started."

Gregory

You didn't write "Swiftboating" in your 833, Punchy. Look carefully,

Vision problems?

Scott Obermuller

Planned Parenthood is the leading protector of child molesters.
I have never seen them brought up in all of this broo-ha about under age sexual relations.
And what about the women that abet and cover for the sexual peccadillos of the men involved? And what about the women that sexually abuse men? From the left - silence.
The new witch hunt is on, but of course, limited to the guilty and the unprotected.
The guilty will hang as is his want, but the unprotected will hang as well, as is not his wont.
The political campaign is over, but reality moves on as ever.
And where are the finger pointers of morality now that their enemies have been squashed?
Is all right and correct in the world?
Never mind, we've won - let's move on.

Paul Emery

Okay Good eye So let me repeat my question

Interesting to see your reference to "Swiftboating" as to the fate of Moore. You must agree then that what the Bush team did to John Kerry was equally devious because that's where the term came from.

Don Bessee

Note to the po' ol' fakenewsman; its sift boating. You screwed it up not Gregory. It was Swift boat crews who hammered Secretary Lurch who gave us the iran deal. Your comprehension issues seem to be ascendant tonight. Does that happen on the air frequently too?

In the meantime the real world is all set for tax cuts for Christmas!

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/13/fed-says-tax-cuts-will-strengthen-economy-and-fed-wont-stand-in-the-way-of-a-trump-boom/

;-)

Todd Juvinall

The Swiftboaters were not Bush. They were servicemen that served with Kerry and knew he was a liar about his service. After Kerry tossed his medals over the White House fence and Kennedy had him speak against his fellow soldiers, that pissed them off big league.

Don Bessee

That's a good one on me, sift boating! ;-)

Gregory

Remember Morning Joe's line that there was one candidate under investigation on election day November 2016, and it wasn't Hillary?

Think Punchy... was that true?

https://crooksandliars.com/2017/03/election-day-trump-was-only-one-under-fbi

Paul Emery

I don't watch morning Joe so I really can't answer the question What point are you trying to make ?

Gregory

You don't have to have watched it Paul... I gave you a link.

"Morning Joe's line that there was one candidate under investigation on election day November 2016, and it wasn't Hillary?"

Think Punchy... was that true?

https://crooksandliars.com/2017/03/election-day-trump-was-only-one-under-fbi

Don Bessee

Time for the po' ol' party parrot to pivot subjects. Screwed up that whole thread there ya po' ol' fakenewsman. ;-)

Don Bessee

OH BOY! Its gonna be immediate!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tax/republicans-forge-tax-deal-final-votes-seen-next-week-idUSKBN1E71A5

;-)

Bill Tozer

“No one cares” said the cat that ate the canary.

Honestly, Lerner’s excuse for sealing her testimony would be funny if the context wasn’t such an egregious display of government abuse. Her argument goes something like, “I’m scared that people will hate me more if they hear my testimony, which no one really cares to hear so don’t let them hear it.” What, are we in middle school here? The real question is, what are they seeking to hide?

Mark Meckler, a Tea Party leader who has long led the class action lawsuit drive, responded that sealing Lerner and Paz’s testimony would “set an outrageous legal precedent, allowing the testimony of egregious acts by public servants to be permanently hidden.” In fact, he continued, “The irony of this argument is astounding. The government has admitted that these people unconstitutionally targeted people based on their political beliefs. Now the individuals most responsible for the targeting wish to finish off their secret scheme to illegally target their fellow citizens, in secrecy.”

https://patriotpost.us/articles/52889

fish

See…….just how tough it is to make an honest living out there!


Security robot smeared with feces, forced off street...



https://www.dezeen.com/2017/12/13/k5-knightscope-security-robot-sfspca-san-francisco-bullied-off-street/

Paul Emery

Thanks for the link Gregory. Not very interesting to me. thanks for the link

Gregory

Not very interesting?

The question for you isn't whether you thought it interesting, it is, 'was it true that there was one candidate in Nov '16 being investigated by the FBI and it wasn't Hillary Clinton?'

Paul Emery

I'll look into it.

Gregory

"I'll look into it"

Well, isn't that special!

You don't *know* the answer?

Paul Emery

I'll put it on my list of things I'm looking into. thanks for the link

Gregory

Got it... you either don't know the answer, or don't want to write it down. Neither is flattering.

Paul Emery

Don't know the answwe Gregory. Do you? The answer would imply knowing the inner workings of the FBI which I don't have access to. Looking into it though. What you have provided is a link to one media source. Not enough to form a conclusion.

Gregory

That tells me you don't want to know the answer, Paul.

At the time of the election, Trump was not being investigated. When Trump asked Comey if he was under investigation after the inauguration, Comey told him he wasn't. Three times. Confirmed under oath to the Congress during testimony.

The (yes, fake) news being spread had the effect of peeling off more moderate Dems and independents away from giving the new President room to govern. He's left with his core... and if Mueller doesn't produce something related to collusion with the Russians during the campaign there will be repercussions.

Paul Emery

thanks for your opinion Gregory

Gregory

Not opinion, Paul. Verifiable fact.

Please, if when this bubbles to the top of your to-do list, you find anything that suggests Trump was being investigated on the day his election took place, you share it.

And say hello to Bubbles for us.

Paul Emery

Gregory, what would the repercussions likely be under your 11:09 scenario

Don Bessee

When lefties destroy a big city and refuse common sense solutions-

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/12/14/richard-boykin-united-nations-gun-violence/

;-)

Don Bessee

The winner of swamp creature of the week award is;

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/12/14/head-of-congressional-ethics-office-sued-for-abusing-position-accused-of-assaulting-women/

;-)

Gregory

Paul, you're a few answers short to be asking questions. Dream up an answer or two to the question first and we can compare expectations.

You might consider human nature when faced with a fact that shows a long held view to be false... what did you think when you learned there was no Santa Claus or Easter Bunny?

Don Bessee

Good luck with that @127! ;-)

Walt

net neutrality is gone. How com it's mostly Leftys that are griping?
"O" and Co. decided it was a great idea for the government to get involved... ANYTHING the gov. touches goes to sh*t.

Bill Tozer

Did you hear losing net neutrality will cause more climate change, besides hurting BLM?

I tell ya, half of what you read on the leftstream Industrial Media-Non Profit Fakenews Complex is taken right out of the entertainment section. Who writes that stuff? Opps, they just write down what the loonies are saying in front of the television cameras and crews.

Scenes from the Apocalypse

Given:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/dec/07/alphazero-google-deepmind-ai-beats-champion-program-teaching-itself-to-play-four-hours

and

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/gender-stereotyping-in-uk-adverts-to-be-banned-next-year-1-4638851

I welcome our new AI overlords.

Walt

AGW villain of the week,
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/12/14/the-atlantic-internet-porn-is-killing-the-environment/
Now what will the Lefty snowflakes do?

Walt

Gotta hand it to the LIBS.. Bless their little hearts.....
" Democratic politicians demanding a probe into possible anti-Clinton bias at the FBI." Well, they got their wish.
"The pro-Clinton, anti-Trump messages were, ironically, discovered as part of an investigation into the DOJ and FBI launched by the Department of Justice Office of Inspector General (IG) in response to...."
http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/14/democrats-mobilize-against-rod-rosenstein-as-inspector-general-investigation-zeroes-in-on-fbi-video/

Yup,, Every time they think that have a gripe,, it comes back to bite.
Now the new butthurt is,,
"Democratic politicians and left-wing media have attacked Rosenstein’s credibility in response, claiming he should have blocked the messages’ release."

Don Bessee

Team 0's parting gift to the world in the bat shit crazy iran deal-

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-42356969

Did the airplane full of cash and gold pay for it? ;-)

Scenes from the Apocalypse

True? Not true? If nothing else, I have to admire this Moore guy's feistiness.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/theyre-cheating-democrats-calling-blacks-mississippi-vote-alabama-senate-race/

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/african-americans-mississippi-pressured-vote-alabama-senate-race/

Walt

Well Scenes,, that's how Franken got elected.

Bill Tozer

Walt @ 4:28 pm

Yep, that is how fickle (unprincipled) the looney tunes Lefties are. They screamed for FBI Comey’s removal until the moment Trump fired him. The list is long of prominent Dem members of Congress who were all on the same page, all demanding Comey’s head on a platter, all denouncing, disowning, and diaavowing the FBI Director....to the very hour of his hasty departure from the FBI. Obstruction!

BYW, have you noticed how quiet My Gal has been lately? I would have lost money betting she would take full credit for Alabama, but nooo, she went silent. I guess with these delicious IG investigation reevaluations, her lawyer’s probably told her to zip it. That and parading around in front of the cameras holding hands with her husband under the warm spotlights on stage may not be a wise idea right now with all the womanfolk out gunning for bear. Male bears. Hairy male bears that can’t keep their paws to themselves. Bill has been strangely way less of a talker during both the Convergence and the Reckoning.

Not a peep from the Left about the Vegas shooter for weeks now and Debbie still wants her laptop back.

Walt

Bill
I bet Hillary is getting Bill a kevlar jock strap for Christmas.
Now that any and ALL womanizers are open season, I'm sure there is someone looking to cut'm off and have a set of earrings made.

Don Bessee

On the day they are asking for UN peacekeepers chi town does this illegal insanity-

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/14/emanuel-rolls-out-chicago-id-for-undocumented-and-those-on-sidelines.html

;-)

Don Bessee

Chinas war on coal backfiring?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-14/china-s-war-on-smog-unleashes-collateral-damage-on-world-s-farms?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=bd&utm_campaign=headline&cmpId=yhoo.headline&yptr=yahoo

;-)

Don Bessee

Hell Ya, enforcing the no fly zones above our friends!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/12/14/us-fighter-jets-head-butt-russian-jets-in-syria-us-official-says.html

;-)

Paul Emery

George notes:

2018 will be a mid-term election to remember.

Yes indeed it will George. Historically the party of the President loses seats in the House and Senate in the mid-term elections. Combine that with Trumps historic unpopularity (at this time) and you have the ingredients to make Republicans shaky.

Don Bessee

Appeasement never works!

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/14/study-china-imports-caused-deaths-american-factories/

;-)

Todd Juvinall

I think we will be picking up seats as the democrat party is self-destructing.

Bill Tozer

On Dec. 12, The Union got it wrong.

“It's the biggest promotion this town has ever seen."
That's how Nevada City Chamber of Commerce Executive Director Cathy Whittlesey describes "The Christmas Card," the 2006 Hallmark Channel holiday movie filmed in Nevada City and featuring Victorian Christmas.

Well, well, well. Of course the old white people longing for and living in the Ozzie and Harriet bubble would say such racist and reprehensible nonsense. The Lefties, the movers, shakers, the voice of all things liberal, the very ones that are at the heart and soul of Progressive thought see Hallmark Channel’s “The Christmas Card” as the vile piece of homophobic propaganda it is.

From Slate, the daily must read of our friends on the left.

“After watching a few of Hallmark’s Countdown to Christmas films, the network’s burgeoning red-state appeal comes into focus. As much as these movies offer giddy, predictable escapes from Trumpian chaos, they all depict a fantasy world in which America has been Made Great Again. Real and fictional heartland small towns with names such as Evergreen and Cookie Jar are as thriving as their own small businesses, and even a high school art teacher (played by Trump supporter and the face of Hallmark, Candace Cameron Bure) can afford a lavishly renovated Colonial home. They brim with white heterosexuals who exclusively, emphatically, and endlessly bellow “Merry Christmas” to every lumberjack and labradoodle they pass. They’re centered on beauty-pageant heroines and strong-jawed heroes with white-nationalist haircuts. There are occasional sightings of Christmas sweater–wearing black people, but they exist only to cheer on the dreams of the white leads, and everyone on Trump’s naughty list—Muslims, gay people, feminists—has never crossed the snowcapped green-screen mountains to taint these quaint Christmas villages. “Santa Just Is White” seems to be etched into every Hallmark movie’s town seal.”

——Aha, the crux of the problem. It’s Trump in collusion with Hallmark to spew Red State vomit:

“Of all his empty guarantees, the president has perhaps fulfilled none better than a counterstrike in the War on Christmas, and no battalion has fired more rooty-toot artillery for him than the Hallmark Channel. In 2017, the network is premiering 21 original Christmas movies (up from 20 last year)—42 hours of sugary, sexist, preposterously plotted, plot hole–festooned, belligerently traditional, ecstatically Caucasian cheer.

—-Hmmm. Ok, how about a big “Merry Christmas”, you adorable Miss Scrooge, you.

“And pour a hot toddy down your pants every time a character urges the female lead to abandon her career in the Big Liberal City to restore traditions and family in her hometown, as women” blah, blah, blah.

—Hey, that deserves a triple dog dare Merry Christmas!

https://slate.com/arts/2017/12/hallmarks-21-movie-christmas-countdown-reviewed.html


Robert Cross

"I think we will be picking up seats as the democrat party is self-destructing." What is that based on Todd, the massive Republican losses (particularly to women) in Virginia or Roy Moore's loss to a Democrat in the reddest state in America? The republicans are having their chance at governing now with full control of all three branches of government. Just don't forget that trump didn't win the popular vote, is the most unpopular president (at this point) in history, and the only piece of significant legislation he has gotten passed is the tax giveaway (without any hearings what-so-ever) to himself and the wealthiest most corporate friendly cabinet in history. Voters are leaving the Republican Party in droves (now only 35%) and you say the Dems are self-destructing. This, of course, does not include pussy grabbing or the Russians. So we will find out in less than a year how the trump version republican leadership plays with the American people. Fool me once, fool me twice. We shall see if the American people will get fooled again or not.

Todd Juvinall

Uh Oh, now a democrat babe drops out after harassment charges and settlements in Kansas Copngressional race.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article189931704.html

Republicans will be picking up seats as these perv dems drop off. Jeeze this is fun.

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