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04 January 2018

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Don Bessee

Did the administration do AG Sessions pot crackdown announcement to distract the lefties from this-

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2018/01/04/trump-administration-plans-to-allow-drilling-off-all-u-s-waters/?utm_term=.0ed1262cd238

;-)

Todd Juvinall

Looks like DOJ is reopening the Clinton email scandal and her Foundation and pay to play. Oh my!

Don Bessee

Will SCOUTS gut forced dues this year? The deplorables in unions don't want to fund dems anymore!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/04/big-unions-sent-over-1b-in-dues-to-dem-groups-since-2010-without-member-approval-research-finds.html

;-)

Don Bessee

Damn Jeff, they doubted you and once the tax cuts got passed you let lose the dogs of war in 2018!

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/04/report-fbi-launches-new-clinton-foundation-investigation/

Sweet! ;-)

Bill Tozer

I held off posting this for about a month now, waiting for a related topic emerged. Under the subtopic of “reasoned debate in which reason is now considered racist.”

“He said they accused him of “‘creating an emotionally unsafe zone.’”

https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/39777/

Many moons ago I was preparing for my first “real” date. I went down to the DVM the day I turned 16, got my drivers license, borrowed a car from my sister’s girlfriend, and got busy scrubbing the dirt off my shoes. As I was shaving the peach fuzz off my face, my father opened the bathroom door and said, “Don’t talk about politics, sports, or religion.”

Don Bessee

Winning!

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/05/black-unemployment-rate-hits-time-low/

;-)

Generalissmo Covfefe

Thanks Obama!!!

fish

Posted by: Generalissmo Covfefe | 05 January 2018 at 11:20 AM


Thanks Obama!!!


Fascinating how things turned around so suddenly after president empty suit departed. You're right "Thanks Obama"....you should have left 7 years sooner....imagine how much less damage would have been done!

Bill Tozer

The new normal, same ole song and dance.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1230334463767255/?type=3&theater

Trump is amazing. After less a year in office, Trump has solved the Global Warming threat. Better back off, Mr President. There is such a thing as overkill. Snow on Palm trees is a bit over the top, IMHO.

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/977205052429717/?type=3&theater

Watching Trump lately, Iran is the perfect example between leading from behind and leading. Diametrically opposed. Or was that leaving from behind?

After Obama spent 8 years on office fighting ISIS, Trump steps up and annihated the lion’s share of the scourge in months.

Ah heck, I will say it. Thank you Obama. Racism was almost dead in the USA until you took over the reins. Thank you, Obama!

Generalissmo Covfefe

Move to Iowa!!!
Deduct your fed taxes from your state taxes!!!
https://www.thebalance.com/deducting-federal-income-taxes-on-your-state-return-3193248

Bill Tozer

GC

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1232832926850742/?type=3&theater

Don Bessee

Cali life-

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/05/native-american-professor-tormented-white-student-over-aztec-mascot-state-agency-rules.html

;-)

Don Bessee

Poor baby!

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/01/04/barbra-streisand-hollywood-punished-gop-tax-reform/

I thought they said they wanted to pay their fair share? ;-)

Don Bessee

Sessions has been busy on the down low-

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/01/05/fbi-has-been-investigating-clinton-foundation-months-report/1008434001/

;-)

Bonnie McGuire

The latest "suicide" of a Clinton critic. I think a doctor would have the intelligence and better way doing it.
(December 2017) Dr. Dean Lorich, an orthopedic surgeon who volunteered in Haiti and exposed Clinton Foundation corruption and malpractice on the island, has been found dead in New York. He was 54. Dr. Lorich was found by his 11-year-old daughter on the bathroom floor of his tony Upper East Side apartment with a knife in his chest at around 1pm on Monday.

The knife missed the surgeon’s heart, leaving him to bleed out and be found by his daughter. Despite the fact police were called to the property regarding an “assault“, they instantly registered the death as “suicide” and closed the case…

http://investmentwatchblog.com/surgeon-who-criticized-clinton-foundation-fraud-after-haitian-earthquake-mysteriously-killed-in-ny-home/

YouTube
http://youtu.be/Jz7R40JOB6I

Don Bessee

Does everyone have the golden globes scheduled on your dvr?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/05/opinion/golden-globes-metoo.html

;-)

Don Bessee

Turnabout is fair play-

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/07/antifa-member-ordered-to-pay-legal-fees-berkeley-conservative-over-attempted-restraining-order.html

;-)

Bill Tozer

Re: America’s Left either does not understand the use of force by nations,

“Without a formidable military feared by our enemies, diplomacy sings castrato.”—-Dr. Rebane

I am not convinced in the slightest the Left wants the US to be a superpower, not to mention the biggest superpower of the top 3. Just a nation amount nations, enough to keep the Rooskies at bay in conjunction with our allies, but not much more. Make love, not war.

In 20 years, China’s military might will surpass the US’s. If that don’t get your hair standing up on the back of your neck, few things will.
China for decades was not a real threat militarily because most all of their buildups and weapon procurements were for defensive purposes. Defensive weapons, anti-aircraft systems, big artillery guns on their coastline, and even their Naval buildup was geared to defending the Mainland with the appropriate class of ships.

That was then. Today, their military buildup (and might) is designed for offense expansion. China, without much resistance, or without the US as the big superpower, could own the shipping lanes that the lion’s share of the world’s trade passes, cutting the US off While this is going on, the US now is turning more of it’s attention to protecting the Homeland. Once ridiculed as “Star Wars”, an idea put forward by the “stupid”” Ronald Reagan, North Korea has put Star Wars back in play as a necessary defense against incoming nuclear warheads. While the US has historically enjoyed the protection of two vast oceans on either side as a natural barrier to invasion, the comfort of ocean barriers is becoming less secure. Chinese naval fleets are growing bigger and getting closer as they snatch up spheres of influence further and further from their Mainland, aka, Red China.

Back to Dr. Rebane’s quote above. The word ‘fear’ jumped out. A most apt word. As small example.

http://www.oann.com/trump-threat-to-pakistan-exemplifies-a-no-fear-foreign-policy/

Fear is not a bad word. Our enemies understand fear, nay, respect fear. Without military migh and political will, we are but Chamberlons. The policy of appeasement has historically failed. We need a Superpower military to match not one, but two other superpowers, as well as numerous small actors around the globe when they start saber rattling and threatening our friends and allies...and our Homeland.

Don Bessee

Eating their own-

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/01/08/rose-mcgowan-blasts-black-clad-golden-globes-attendees-hollywood-fakery/

;-)

Paul Emery

Even Ann Coulter is pulling the plug on Trump and questioning his IQ. From Todds favorite website Breitbart.

"Trump was more than willing to sell out the base to solve a personal problem of his — the Michael Wolff book — but managed to not convince a single American that he’s articulate, bright, or a good leader."

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/10/coulter-turns-bannon-trumps-brain/

Don Bessee

Here is one for the po' ol' pollhead!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-indicted-2018-americans-more-142107601.html

You guys wasted a whole year on that project. ;-)

Paul Emery

So now you believe in Politico Polls Don. I think it's unlikely Trump well actually be indicted. I mean Nixon wasn't. More likely they'll pick off the Grease Twins.

The same polls say it's likely the Dems will win back the House and Senate

"Pluralities of voters expect Democrats, who have a significant lead on the congressional generic ballot, to win control of both the House and Senate in the midterm elections."

Then if Trump is not indicted thye Dems will be in a good position for impeachment for obstruction of justice.

MAGA CoVfefe!

yeah mr president why can't we get immigrants from Norway and like that instead of all these shithole countries!!!
MAGAMAGAMAGAMAGAMAGAMAGAMAGAMAGAMAGAMAGAMAGAMAGAMAGAMAGAMAGAMAGAMAGAMAGA

Gregory

"Then if Trump is not indicted thye Dems will be in a good position for impeachment for obstruction of justice".

Paul... Trump can't be indicted. A literal impossibility, until he leaves office. I would think a community FM station News Director in the eighth decade of life in the USA would have figured that one out.

If the House becomes majority Dem in Jan 2019, the House could impeach him, referring the case to the Senate where they'd need two-thirds of the Senators choosing to remove him from office.

Good luck with that.

George Rebane

So that we all don't forget, impeachment by the House is the way Congress indicts. The Senate is the body that tries those impeached (indicted) by the House. And you can bet the ranch that if Pelosi ever becomes Speaker again, Trump will be impeached. Call your neighborhood bookie and place your bets.

fish

Posted by: Gregory | 11 January 2018 at 02:43 PM


He is forever in search of that pony!

Paul Emery

So Gregory we agree that the poll question that Bessee spouts is flawed. Remember the same poll predicts the Dems will take both the House and Senate.

"A Politico/Morning Consult poll found 48 percent of respondents said special counsel Robert Mueller will exonerate Trump in 2018 while just 37 percent said it was not too likely or not at all likely Trump will be cleared of any wrongdoing related to Russian interference."

Paul Emery

Trump, what a racist pig

"President Donald Trump slammed the idea of restoring protections for immigrants from “shithole” countries in an Oval Office meeting on Thursday, sources told multiple news outlets. "

“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” the president reportedly asked lawmakers. He was referring to African nations and Haiti, according to The Washington Post, the first to report the story. It was later confirmed by NBC News, BuzzFeed and CNN.

Trump then said the U.S. “should have more people from places like Norway,” sources told NBC News.

Gregory

George, were the House to land in Pelosi's lap with a bare majority, she would be in the position recent GOP Speakers have been in trying to get rid of Obamacare... it's hard to govern with less than a firm majority in both houses of Congress, with "govern" in this case meaning "overturn the last Presidential election".

To paraphrase a 20th century pol, to impeach Trump and remove him from office would probably take literally finding him in bed in flagrante delicto with a dead girl or a live Putin.

Gregory

Punchy 258

Could you rephrase that as a rational and complete question? That poll does not ask about indictment of President Trump.

Todd Juvinall

Reviewing the polls on Rep/Dem chances next election shows a heavy weighting to the dem side. My guess is Pennsylvania 18 will be a good indicator of the dems chances. If the Rs lose, then we are in deep trouble. If the R wins, then we will retain all.

And Paul Emery's favorite news source, the DailyKos we see this. And I thought Paul loved this guy for dissing Trump.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/11/1731902/-Corker-betrays-his-country-again-by-refusing-to-make-report-on-Russia-s-election-meddling-bipartisan

Paul Emery

What else can it possibly be referring to Gregory? Isn.t that the job of a prosecutor? I'm willing to be educated on that matter.

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 11 January 2018 at 03:02 PM


Trump, what a racist pig


Whats's "racist" about acknowledging that Haiti is….not to put too fine a point on it…..a bit of a shithole.

Todd Juvinall

I think Trump is on to something though he may say it harshly. Why do we want to allow these people who will be a burden on us to come here? Why should our schools, hospitals and infrastructure be used by all these people? I think he is right. And un-named sources again? Amazing that a "newsman" would give it so much credence.

Gregory

Punchy 302

I could vote for easy green cards for women from countries like Iceland... but it would be wrong!


Do you have something against Norwegian bachelor farmers?

George Rebane

Gregory 307pm - I said nothing about "remove him from office"; that is an entirely different kettle of fish. But I do believe that even with a bare majority the Dems will impeach The Donald just to satisfy the rabid faction of their base, and get the pound of flesh for Dirty Hillary's loss.

And may I echo the sentiments of Messrs fish and Gregory. Trump called a spade a spade - there are, by any measure, shithole countries. And I am glad that we finally have a president that says what most of us know, and can therefore focus the policy debate on whether the US should be the willing repository of meritless economic escapees from such countries. In this assessment I do not dun the wretched poor folks from those countries trying to better their lives; I would do the same in their situation. But I do protest that America remains the indiscriminating destination for such people (they number in the billions) to welcome them with open arms.

Gregory

George 324
Once impeached by the House, a removal from office by the Senate is generally the expected action if 2/3rds of Senators agree.

I gather it was Ben Franklin who remarked that removal from office in Europe up to that time was generally accomplished by assassination, and maybe they should include a less dramatic procedure for dealing with mistakes. Another great idea from Ben Franklin!

Walt

Impeachment? Can someone show where " we just don't like the bastard" falls under "high crimes and misdemeanors"? So pissing on the leg of the LIB donkey is now a crime?

If LIBS do try, it's going come back to bite.

George Rebane

Gregory 333pm - You are quoting well-known constitutional law, and I have been discussing what is probable. Unless the Dems sweep Congress, removal from office has two chances - slim and none.

Gregory

George, just as it would be difficult to prove monkeys won't come flying out of a particular person's rectum, it would be difficult to know at this time if there were going to be a real high crime or misdemeanor by Trump found by Mueller's team of inquisitors. While I would bet real money against that happening at this time (the deep staters would be heard squealing with delight all the way to the NY Times to share the news), it could happen.


If they don't like him hard enough, Walt, they could decide breathing air was a high crime and misdemeanor. Any good prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich if they really want to.

Walt

Well gents,, see the news? "O"&Co. tipped of Iranian terrorists a hit was on the way.
That's giving AID AND COMFORT to the ENEMY!!!! There is your TREASON!!
You all should be more than pissed.

Bill Tozer

Oh boys. The Lefties had such high hopes just 2-3 days ago. The 25th Amendment and all that stuff. Hip hip hoorah!
Then, sensing that story had run its course, on this very thread somebody threw out (out of the blue) that Trump will be impeached for obstruction of justice. Obstruction of his own Justice Department probably.

Anyway, I did not respond because I could not find the topic under Dr. Rebane’s post. I ain’t no spelling Nazi and be it far from me to play school monitor. :)

The point? Point is it’s the cycle. Mueller, impeach, Russian, obstruction, the off and on 25th Amendment.....it’s just the cycle. Get used to it. Plain as the nose on Poppinjay’s face. This happens went one strategy fizzles out and they do not take disappointment graciously, nor sitting down. It’s a slow news day. Time to recycle.

I will concede the Trump is “mentality unfit” story gained more traction than it ever has to date. It will come back in due time. Just takes a couple of tweets. Maybe three in a row.
They get their hopes up so very high and jump from one narrative to another to keep their spirits up. The goal is the same, no matter which path they choose: To overturn the results of the 2016, and that does mean through the ballot box.. Removing Trump via political coup is considerated acceptable because it found in their playbook under the chapter, “By Any Means Necessary.”. And today we see Trump’s smiling mug. Mercy.

Trump is a racist pig! Well, calling Haiti a mere shithole was being kind.

Paul Emery

Gregory

No problem with Norwegian bachelor farmers. Do you have a problem with Kenyan bachelor farmers? I regard them as equal.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

Mr Emery sez:

" I regard them as equal."

An opinion, a very palpable opinion. There, that wasn't so hard.

So a person of any nationality, culture, race, religion, education level should be offered an equal opportunity to move to the US?

Should there be any limits to immigration from the Third World to the First?

Do you view Kenyan bachelor farmers as being fully equal to US citizens? We should worry about each one equally?

These three things strike me as the heart of the matter. Let the Trumphate rest for a sec, these are the questions that matter.

Todd Juvinall

I liked Tucker Carlson's points tonight about this issue. The "immigrant" activist thinks anyone should be allowed to come stay. And if you disagree you are, of course, a racist. Tucker said well Norwegians have the best education and income levels on the planet while Haitians are at their end. His point was economics and why is it wrong to have standards that help America regarding who we let in. Oh my, you are a racist and hate those Brown people. Anyway, Tucker said why are you not going to China and their policies of NO immigration allowed then. Also, Ticker had the economics for Asians versus all other races and they had by far the best percentage of success. Something like five to one over El Salvadorans. Did not sway the "activist" who said don't bother me with facts. You are a racist dog you white devil.

Paul Emery

America is a land of opportunity Scenes for those who come from poor parts of the world, that's what it was for my
Greek Grandparents who were farmers in 1914 . why shouldn't that also apply to poor folks from Kenya for example,

Paul Emery

Scenes, Todd

Does this sonnet from the statue of Liberty appeal to your ideals of America ?


Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

Bill Tozer

We ain’t talking refugees, we are talking immigrants.
If the Kenyan farmer is illiterate in his native tongue, uneducated, unskilled, and unschooled in the ways of our civilized society...or any quasi civilized society,....and flat broke to boot with no resources...it is reasonable and prudent to ask what skills does he bring to the table? What are the chances he can be self-sufficient here, not to mention contributing to our nation? Kennedy’s “Ask not.....Ask what you can do for your country” speech.

Bring us the best and brightest from the 7 Seas. Bring us the very best from Kenyan.

I remember under the Shan when Iran had a rather largemiddle class. Educated, skilled, urban types. They came over in floods when the Shaw fell, had resources, higher education, and to this day, the Iranian community in...say, Southern Cal and Beverly Hills and Rodeo Drive really ever make the newsworthy bad publicity.. They brought something to the table. And not all were rich, but most were industrious and friendly.

Once worked with an Austrian National here on a visa. Called him Yohondo. Anyway, when asking him about Austria, what upset him the most was his fellow countrymen going through secondary education and vocational training, courtesy of the Austrian Government. Then the grads and the best and brightest take their nation’s future and up and hightail it over to the USA, rarely to return. He felt it brain drained his country after all the money Austria spent on the future generation. Hell yes!! That’s what we want! May the brightest make it here.

Pick the best, leave the rest. Has nothing to do with skin color, a lot to do with stretching the safety net beyond capacity (among other considerations). . It’s all about our Nation has a sovereign right to decide who and whom are allowed inside our borders. No foreigner has any right to migrate here. No right. Zero. We are a generous people.

The Hmongs were refugees. Read with the water shortages in the San Joaquin Valley during the drought, the Hmong farmers (they originally hail from hill country) are moving up to above Redding and try their hand at growing marijuana in the mountains...legally.
So,.....where are we going to put Kenyan farmers and their 57 year old wives?

Our immigration policy should be different than our refugee policy...no outsider has a right, any right, to come here without our permission. I don’t care if they are from Venezuela, as long as they bring something to the table...talents, coupled with a love for liberty and America swelling up within their breasts. Sorry their home countries do not believe in liberty and their governments are so damn corrupt beyond imagination, but there are billions of them. Fire Marshall says the room is getting close to capacity, squeeze it down.

We already bring in enough that hate us and will always hate us, no matter how nice we are to them. Like La Raza types. No intention to ever accept their hosts

Todd Juvinall

The statue of Liberty is exactly that, liberty. I don't care that you think it is about immigration as it is not. It is the gateway statue to America lighting the way of liberty. So you can go tug at your fellow liberals hearts as it doe not work on me. As far as Kenyans? If they can add to the well being of America I have no problem it is the right of our country to determine who we let in. You liberals want more lefty voters and that is all you want. All the rest of your BS is now exposed. You have no heart but you want their votes.

Don Bessee

The po' ol' fakenewsman seems to think what was done a hundred years ago is good immigration policy now. News to the po' ol' fakenewsman, circumstances change. What a maroon. ;-)

Todd Juvinall

100 years ago the country stopped immigration until those eastern folks assimilated.

Bill Tozer

Punchy, what worked in the past does not mean it will work now. The illegals and “Kenyan farmers” have taken the jobs that the former Ellis Island immigrants did. Roofers, carpenters,, hospitality services, darn near every worker inside meat packing plants, and on and on it goes.
We NEEDED the “1914” wave to built our cities and build the expansion of our country. Industrial Revolution stuff. Those jobs are disappearing. At least Reagen had a big manufacturing base to revive. The manufacturing sector has shrunk since the good old days.

Again, how is that guy in the mud hut going to make it CA or any US state in this expensive to live day and age? Statue says bring us your homeless. Think we have our hands full of homeless right now. Is the Hospitality House ready for 60 more? Eh? 1914 was right around WW1; wadn’t it. Think I had one come over around 1918 and another one from Greenland of all balances. Ran, then bought, a boarding house in Chicago or someplace. Died in Ann Arbor. Those days are gone. Have you seen housin prices lately?

The Righties judge success by how many folks secure employment. The Lefties judge success as how many of the huddled masses they can put on the welfare rolls...er...take care of.
GOD: Good Orderly Direction. Get the policy right, clearly laid out and put down in writing first. Always America First. This ain’t open mike amateur night nor an All Comers 10k run. We are talking about a good orderly direction with specific criteria for qualify to even begin the application process.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

re: PaulE

Of course the rest of the Third World wants to move here. Just imagine if the borders were truly open and anyone with a plane ticket could move in. The US wouldn't last 10 years. Given your lack of concern for existing US citizens, I'm not sure that your grandparents did me a favor here.

The poem on the Statue of Liberty has nothing to do with the statue of course. It was written for the base some time later. No doubt you'll immediately forget that factoid in a minute or two. Interestingly, the author was a strong Zionist, so I guess her interest in people moving into someone else's property extended elsewhere.

Late 19th C. (and very early 20th) immigration had enough negative effects on the country that a couple of bits of legislation were passed. Here's one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

In any case, I can't say that any of my questions were answered, but then what's new?

I'll give you my opinion. The US should invite the highest functioning people, strongly urge them to integrate rather than gather in ethnic communities, and should generally act in the best interest of existing citizens. If this means that everyone comes from Norway, that's fine. As usual, aside from the well known social problems you get from a diverse and non-integrated state, population growth for growth's sake is just plain stupid. There'll always be an ever growing crowd outside the gate, at least until the inevitable Malthusian overshoot occurs in places like sub-Saharan Africa.

Take a minute and consider this chart, my nom de plume was chosen for a reason.

https://www.unzcloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Population-1950-2100-b.png

Paul Emery

Trump is an outright racist as is anyone who attempts to defend his views that

“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?”

“should have more people from places like Norway,”

Paul Emery

Do you have a list of "shit hole countries" Scenes that could serve as a guide for allowing entry to this country? What in your view qualifies a country as being a shit hole country?

Don Bessee

How typically lefty of the po' ol' fakenewsman. Nooooooooo we don't want well educated stable immigrants who wont be a burden on taxpayers, he would rather have illiterate goat herders on our dime (he probably gets the earned income tax credit) is really what he is saying @921. ;-)

Paul Emery

Can you name a few shit hole countries Don?

Bill Tozer

AWhy, why, why?

1) Because half on the billion that want to come here today are illiterate in their native tanguages. That’s why. Vancouver don’t have Mexicans, they have the Sri Lankan’s to clean your bedpans and change hotel sheets and towels.

2) Because they ARE shithole countries. One needs to get out more often.

3) Bonus answer. Because we are a big bad bunch of racists, that’s why! Did I get the answer right, did I Wally? Oh goodie goodie gumdrops, what prize did I win? How silly of me to not think of THAT obvious answer first. I am such a dufus.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1236433246490710/?type=3&theater

Don Bessee

Why, why, why? @ 935. ;-)

Don Bessee

Here is a list of shit holes for the po' ol' fakenewsman from those racists at the UN.

https://www.un.org/development/desa/dpad/least-developed-country-category/ldcs-at-a-glance.html

;-)

Bill Tozer

Read the comments. Seems to be a problem closet to the Kenyan farmer’s Homeland as well. Hmmm.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/police-admit-sudanese-44-times-more-likely-to-break-law/news-story/8ca308022ba8fbbc4b89ed50504271c5

http://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/crime/african-leader-turns-on-turnbull-over-street-gang-issue/news-story/1c3275cb3a9c5192d2925d36fd5c6c53

New Zealand and the northern hill country of Greece is a nice place to put sheep and Kenyan farmers.

Don Bessee

Emery?? Emery?? Emery?? ;-)

Paul Emery

Don

So Nepal is a shit hole Country Don. Perhaps you should meet a friend of mine who works at Bonanza market who is an immigrant from Nepal Would you like to do that?

Bill Tozer

Bring us the best. Punchy’s friend speaks English. That’s a great start. Good. Start.
Cuban is another shithole, so is Venezuela and the Congo. Puerto Rico is not a country, but all are a hell lot better than Haiti.

Bill Tozer

Just put them all in line and let them show us what they bring to the table. Criminal history, education levels (hopefully past 6th grade), are they pregnant, have a US sponsor, age (26-42 preferred) skills we need, know a trade, prior employment history, documents to verify...those kind of things. We be completely colorblind. Lay out those cards on the table and let’s see who qualifies to stand in the next line to the right. Then, wait.

Don Bessee

According to the UN its a shit hole so take it up with them. That is if they even talk to likes of po' ol' fakenewsmen. LOL ;-)

Bill Tozer

7 year wait to be allowed in is fair.
I know some that spent 11, 13-17 years before being allowed in to stay. One guy I met getting gold out of them here hillsand welcomed in my camp to socialize and sleep under the stars for awhile was from Poland or some Eastern European country. He dreamed of coming to America. He acquired some skills and education, moved to South America and became a citizen of that country solely because that country in South America (Brazil, I believe) was easier to get into the US from than from Eastern Europe at the time....a 17 year journey for him and his nuclear family and worth every second of the whole long journey according to him. Forget his name. Good guy, as far as I could tell. We do give preferences to certain regions.
It was George W Bush that surprisingly really put the push on for opening up African countries for immigration. A kinder gentler America. A Thousand Points of Light and all that stuff.
Bush lied, people died! :)

Don Bessee

OH NO! Here come the po' ol' bush derangement syndrome! ;-)

Walt

LOL Paul If it was great,, why they leave?

Don Bessee

Remember the intent?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/30/ted-kennedys-real-legacy-50-years-of-ruinous-immigration-law/

First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same…
Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset… Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia…
In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think… The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs.”

;-)

George Rebane

This dialogue with a liberal about farmers and shit hole countries is priceless. It is a poster child illustration of how two sides glibly talk past each other with no hope of even agreeing on the format and topic of conversation.

Anyone want to make an attempt at reason and offer a definition of 'shit hole country' beyond just 'I know one when I see it.'?

Bill Toze

Oh Don
Breitbart? Really, Don, how could you? Breitbart just dumped the Libbies new hero (some White Nationalist guy) and has more daily hits than the Drudge Report. Can’t believe a word they say. Fake news. Breitbart?
Perhaps NPR would be a more palatable read to those with discriminating tastes.

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5391395

Don Bessee

Dr. R, I would submit my 943 as exhibit 1 for establishing a base line shit hole standard. ;-)

Bill Toze

Just do you own research on Pine Ridge Reservation. That is a good place to start on what constitutes a shithole country. First Nations qualify as countries, right? I emigrated from there. One will find a amazing parallel to Haiti in some many categories...infant morality rate, life expectancy, drop out rates, suicide rates, per capita annual income, access to landlines, drug and alcohol abuse/deaths, economic opportunities. Some score better than Haiti, some below Haiti. Only thing I can say is Custer plenty blew Big Horn. Not much else to boast about....as a country, not a people.


Bill Toze

The libs would probably say “The Vatican”. To be continued...... Nappy-Pooh time.

That Trump is something else. Always pushes the conservation forward. Quite provocative..

Bill Tozer (moi)

Short nap. Now, how in the Sam Hill did this thread get so off topic? Hmmm. Oh yeah.

1) Even Ann Coulter is pulling the plug on Trump and questioning his IQ. From Todds favorite website Breitbart.
"Trump was more than willing to sell out the base to solve a personal problem of his — the Michael Wolff book — but managed to not convince a single American that he’s articulate, bright, or a good leader."
Posted by: Paul Emery | 10 January 2018 at 06:30 PM

Followed by his very next comment the following afternoon

2) Then if Trump is not indicted thye Dems will be in a good position for impeachment for obstruction of justice.
Posted by: Paul Emery | 11 January 2018 at 02:20 PM

Followed just two comments and 42 minutes later by:

3). Trump, what a racist pig
Posted by: Paul Emery | 11 January 2018 at 03:02 PM

Hmmm. Guess that just about covers all the bases. Timelines of TDS are kind of fun. My, my. Somebody has free rent in somebody’s head.
But, what triggered these insightful comments? Oh yeah, it was that horrid Ann Coulter who started it all.

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/979261335557422/?type=3&theater

Scenes

GRebane: "This dialogue with a liberal about farmers and shit hole countries is priceless. "

C'est la vie. The liberal lives in a whiteopia but emits an endless stream of virtue signals. My best guess is that he carries an internal fantasy of proudly leading millions of third worlders into the light while proudly carrying a 'Welcome Refugees' banner.

KVMR can cover the hilarity that ensues as News Jesus leads the multitudes.

I suppose that the shithole country moniker isn't so hard to earn

http://www.news-world.us/pics/60-worst-countries-in-the-world/

although it's pretty obvious that the most straightforward immigration would come from the Five Eyes countries.

Taking the more practical tack that a country should import people who actually make it better off forces you to deal with individuals, and perhaps their immediate families (as opposed to the chain migration fiasco). High grading the world is like self-interested trade and foreign policy, a smart move. Perhaps a combination of investor visas, education requirements and/or something like a traditional Chinese civil service exam would be enough ..along with a criminal background check of course.

In any case, given demographic pressures and an increasing wealth gradient, you can build the 'wall' now or build it later. The longer you wait, the uglier it's going to be.

Scenes

re: A quick theory on xenophilia and the strong need for moar and moar immigrants.

It occurs to me that this isn't so much about the need to improve the USA (obviously) or even to improve the lives of everyone in the rest of the world, but is simply the weaponization of masses of people.

What might be at work here isn't a tactical move by the Democrats for votes, or huge love for Somali/Syrian/Guatemalan/Nigerian/Haitian culture by the Green Libertarians, but is a need by those same GL's to punish the folks that they hate. They've identified a move that hits pro-Western people at a gut level and will continue until morale improves. Even when there's no advantage to yourself, squeezing an enemy hard has it's own value.

fish

Posted by: Scenes | 12 January 2018 at 07:18 AM

What might be at work here isn't a tactical move by the Democrats for votes, or huge love for Somali/Syrian/Guatemalan/Nigerian/Haitian culture by the Green Libertarians, but is a need by those same GL's to punish the folks that they hate. They've identified a move that hits pro-Western people at a gut level and will continue until morale improves. Even when there's no advantage to yourself, squeezing an enemy hard has it's own value.


You think this is the primary reason?

Scenes from the Apocalypse

re: Fish@8:21

I couldn't be sure, but I don't doubt there's at least a Christopher Matthews leg tingle when they see one of those pictures from Europe and think of the consternation it'll cause.

One thing nice about 'shithole countries' is that if you are forced to say they aren't shitholes, you don't feel bad sending people back to them.

fish

Posted by: Scenes from the Apocalypse | 12 January 2018 at 08:52 AM


One thing nice about 'shithole countries' is that if you are forced to say they aren't shitholes, you don't feel bad sending people back to them.


Or letting them in in the first place.


Any way I'm still not convinced that your earlier statement is accurate. The importation of a permanent underclass provides for so much practical advantages for the bi-factional ruling class I can't help but think that the notion of "sticking it to those they hate" is merely the cherry on the sundae!

George Rebane

Administrivia - An excellent discussion opening on the SHCs - the newest thread and most relevant thread on immigration so far. If you give me a bit this morning, I will post my own loosely coagulated thoughts in a dedicated post on the SHC topic that is guaranteed not to go away any time soon. Hopefully, this will serve to focus further discussion in a compact and searchable topic area on RR. Thanks.

fish

Posted by: George Rebane | 12 January 2018 at 09:29 AM


Looking forward to it.

fish

Likely why "Shithole Country" comments will be forgotten in about 12 hours!


Was Fusion GPS Allowed to Run Unsupervised FISA-702 Queries?

We interrupt our regularly-scheduled LinkSwarm, and preempt our next gargantuan Clinton Corruption update, to bring you a development that potentially dwarfs not only what we already know of the scandal, but any national American political scandal since Benedict Arnold sold the British the plans to West Point in 1780.

These claims center around a Top Secret FISA Court Order document obtained by Judicial Watch on May 23, 2017, but I first came across them last night on Twitter:


https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=34867

Todd Juvinall

Brian Hamilton is threatening me with banishment from their FB and comments section because I have the temerity to respond to the personal attacks they allow against moi. The liberals are jamming his email with complaints that I defend myself.

fish

Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 12 January 2018 at 10:10 AM


What do you care Todd?

That's just how progressives play! They stick their fingers in their ears and go.....la la la I can't hear you when confronted with thoughts and ideas they don't like.

Walt

Fish!! How come DiFi didn't let that cat out of the bag?
Bastards!!!

fish

Posted by: Walt | 12 January 2018 at 10:24 AM


Well I understand that she has a pretty nasty case of the sniffles Walt! Or she's senile.

Up to the reader to decide!

Todd Juvinall

FISH I was silent for years while the left attacked me and my family personally and tried to destroy my business. Hell, this week a fool on the Union FB contacted my daughter off my FB page to see if a was telling the truth about drinking. Creepy! Anyway, the Union leaves the lib fools attacks on me and wants to boot me. Maybe you all could send Hamilton and Rogers support for me and derision for my attackers. LOL!

Walt

Because "they asked her too".
http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/12/feinstein-confirms-fusion-gps-lawyers-asked-for-release-of-testimony-transcript/

Great find fish! Great find.

fish

Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 12 January 2018 at 10:33 AM


If you are going to have strong opinions Todd you shouldn't be surprised by this!

Bill Tozer (moi)

Just passing some time waiting for Dr. Rebane’s newest shithole post. ;)

Amidst the outrage of President Trump accurate accessment of Haiti, El Salvador, and (some) African nations, I have yet to hear one of the representatives from aforementioned countries vigorously argue their countries are not shitholes, but in reality paradises.

Ambassadors from various African counties have contacted our US ambassadors to inquire if Trump was including their actual country in the other African nations Shitholes.. Guess nobody wants to be branded by Trump. Those names and images stick. Just ask Low Enegy Jeb, Crooked Hillary, Pocahontas, Little Marco, Rocketman, Shithole Sudan.... Yep, no country wants to labeled as a war torn, corrupt, civil rights stomping tin horn dictatorship banana republic shithole.

Ok, prove you are not from a shithole. Talking to you, yes you, Congresswomen representing Detroit.

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/980960612054161/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1234591563341545/?type=3&theater

One for the road.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1236234723177229/?type=3&theater

Walt

Exhibit A
https://news.trust.org/item/20180112035017-q9adf
"SAN CRISTOBAL/BARINAS, Venezuela, Jan 11 (Reuters) - Hungry mobs ransacked a food collection center, and a supermarket in Venezuela's western Andean state of Merida on Thursday and reportedly even slaughtered cattle grazing in a field as unrest over food shortages spread through the country.

An opposition lawmaker from Merida, Carlos Paparoni, said four people had died and 10 were injured in the chaos over the last two days, but he did not specify the circumstances."

Yes,, S.Hole.....

George Rebane

The SHC post is now up and awaiting your tender mercies. Onward!

Bill Tozer (moi)

Oh Todd, you bully you. :) I have been kicked off a lot better sites than The Union. By employing some minor cyberspace hocus locus adjustments, lo and behold, I can post there again.....but I have more than lost but a lukewarm interest to do so. Go figure.

Bottomline: The only thing they remember is not what you said, but how you said it. You are a meanie. Another thing I am realizing. The Left has the complete utter inability to see any of their own hypocrisy, duplicity, irony, paradoxical actions; you get the point. They just absolutely do not possess the capacity to process that information. It does not compute. I wasted too much time pointing out their hypocrisy to them, but it never penetrates even 1/0000 of a millimeter. Might as well try and catch the wind.

I personally feel it is generally a bad idea to argue on FB....about almost everything.
Silence is golden, duct tape is silver. :)

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