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02 March 2018

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Scenes

First!

Scenes

Of course they meddle in our elections. To be fair, it's probably 5% of how much the British meddle in our elections, and as to the Israelis, oy vey!

An interesting study for Mueller would be the amount that the US interferes with things like the Ukrainian elections, or heaven forbid the Russian elections.

It's just business as usual since most countries tend to act in a self-interested fashion.

A better question is to think about what results the Russian might actually be after. The first would be a bit of internal tension, and since the Green Libertarians are the source of most of that it would be interesting to see what marches/protests/etc. the Russians have encouraged and/or funded. The second might be an attempt to get the US the heck out of places like Syria, which are right next door to Russia. The need for the Clinton State Department to cause civil strife in Arab countries was always a mystery to me, and probably a mystery to Putin. My guess is that all he wants is a certain amount of stability there and I can't say that I disagree.

Walt

The wicked witch of the West is losing her mind.
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/pelosi-repeatedly-says-wrong-words-commensurate-common-sense-tax-force-task-force/
Her brain damage is getting more visible with every press conference.

fish

Posted by: Walt | 02 March 2018 at 12:07 PM


Oh lord watching her over the next couple of years is going to be fun! She sounds like a stroke victim!

Walt

Snopes has a new Villon now that the Scooper has tits up.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/03/02/nolte-snopes-fact-checks-facebook-threatens-over-satire-aimed-at-cnns-washing-machine/

Have and old washer? Ship it to CNN.

jon smith

Israel has probably buggered our elections and infiltrated our government far more than Russia ever has. Just a guess, but it's an educated one.

Walt

More BS from Doug's brother "jon".
Forget that it was "O" messing with Israel's elections using our tax dollars? "O" hated Bebe, AND Israel.( Muslims tend to do that.)

jon smith

Walt - Here is a pretty good round up, and I can only guess the situation hasn't improved. http://www.newsweek.com/2014/05/16/israel-wont-stop-spying-us-249757.html

Walt

Like spying is anything new? Every nation does it. BFD.

fish

Posted by: Walt | 02 March 2018 at 12:45 PM


Sorry to say Walt but he's not wrong.....Israel, Britain, Russia.....we do it right back. Funny to see the left cling to it so desperately to defend the honor of such a horrible presidential candidate.

Don Bessee

OH YA!

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/02/incredible-trump-agenda-what-most-americans-dont-know-about-war-president-has-waged.html

;-)

George Rebane

And we revisit Mexico's ongoing acrivities, overt and lauded, to mess with our elections. It's a tautology to say we mess with everyone else's elections. And it's only the Democrat dufus double-dummies who think they just discovered Russia messing with us. Remember, it was the Left all during the Cold War that didn't believe in the nefarious activities the USSR was promoting all over the world.

Now here's a homework problem for all the astute RR readers. Can you find a single first world power that has not sought to influence the elections of another country, be they friend or foe?

Don Bessee

That should keep them busy @137!

Its the economy and voters perceptions that matter as we approach the primary season.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/02/consumer-sentiment-still-booming-higher-expected/

;-)

Xeno

Posted by: George Rebane | 02 March 2018 at 01:37 PM

Russia, or Mexico, or now both?

fish

Walt,

They claim its an M14. Only $1500!


https://www.classicfirearms.com/m14-rifle-new-semi-auto-walnut-stock-bula-parts-jra

fish

By all means big corporations.....keep virtue signaling!


"Just 13 Delta passengers bought tickets using NRA discount that cost airline a $40 million Georgia tax break. That’s $3 million per ticket."

Scenes

re: Fish@1:47PM

As an alternative, if you like that kind of configuration (and don't go the Ruger route), you could check out Saiga Sporters. Cheap, potentially not black-rifle looking.

re: JonSmith@12:54

Can you image what would happen if the Israeli ties to US election manipulation were dug into to the extent that Russia/Trump (and not Russia / Clinton or anyone else) has been? Jeesh, the world would come to an end

As I probably mentioned before, Trump is the most highly vetted candidate or office-holder in history. The soft coup that we've been treated to has that to say for it. The stay-behind forces have been putting in overtime.

MAGA CoVfefe!

How is ol' Sleepytime doin' at the HUD anyway???

He really making a big difference,,,except for wasting taxpayer money???

No comparison to Trumpski though,,,as far as a waste of space goes!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/27/ben-carson-spokesman-falsely-denied-expensive-table-bought

Walt

Hay Clueless.(Dougy, "jon",Lavender, or whatever your going by this minute) Your employment records have been hacked.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-secret-documents-from-russias-election-trolls-leak

Todd Juvinall

The teen who killed two in Michigan is a black kid. I wonder how the lames will spin that?

Don Bessee

The Nazi propaganda chief Goebels couldn't even have imagined this kind of censorship!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/02/technology/china-technology-censorship-borders-expansion.html

;-)

Don Bessee

“Criminal unauthorized disclosures of classified material are investigated by the national security division,”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/02/jeff-sessions-doj-investigating-illegal-leak-of-michael-flynns-phone-call/

;-)

jon smith

Scenes-
"As I probably mentioned before, Trump is the most highly vetted candidate or office-holder in history. "

Vetted? I have yet to see his birth certificate or his tax returns.

Todd Juvinall

Yeah we never saw Obama's birth cert from Kenya of his college transcripts. Never one girl came forward for spilliung the beans on him. I think he is a transgender woman and Michelle is a transgender man.

ArchieBunker

semiauto

http://www.guns.com/reviews/browning-bar-lightweight-stalker/

Scenes

re: jonsmith@4:07PM

Seriously, name me a politician who has had the millions of man hours applied to investigating him and his family, modern surveillance techniques used on him or her, and the full force of the state investigation apparatchiks used against them.

Really, it's probably the first time in history. I can only think of Lincoln and perhaps Nixon has having as many enemies, but the electronic trails available now didn't exist then.

At this risk of repeating myself, just imagine if this array of force had been applied against LBJ (to name one of our more crooked Presidents).

fish

Posted by: ArchieBunker | 02 March 2018 at 04:27 PM


Might be worth a look Archie! No 7mm Mag.....bummer!

fish

Posted by: Scenes | 02 March 2018 at 02:10 PM


Which Ruger should I not look at and why?

ArchieBunker

yes, available in 7mm


https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/browning-bar-mk3-7mm-rem-mag-semi-auto-rifle-3-rounds-24-barrel-synthetic-stock-mossy-oak-break-up-country-023614439899.do?sortby=ourPicks&refType=&from=fn&ecList=7&ecCategory=614948

fish

Posted by: ArchieBunker | 02 March 2018 at 04:50 PM

Interesting......still intrigued by the higher cap in the M14 copy!

Scenes

re: fish

https://ruger.com/products/miniThirty/models.html

Why? I couldn't tell you, I've never picked one up. It's somewhat similar to the M1A in intent though. I've always figured that all of these rifles are somewhat overpriced as manufactured goods.

Paul Emery

George

what is your vies of Trumps recent tweet when he wrote

"When a country (USA) is losing many billions of dollars on trade with virtually every country it does business with, trade wars are good, and easy to win. Example, when we are down $100 billion with a certain country and they get cute, don’t trade anymore-we win big. It’s easy!"

George Rebane

PaulE 528pm - As I made clear in the last sandbox, I don't agree with the President's trade policy. I haven't seen what the net effect on jobs will be when the metals tariffs go in place, AND our trading partners start retaliating with their own tariffs. But it does appear that we already have enough capacity to produce all the steel and aluminum needed for national security. Have you seen any reputable estimates of the numbers?

However, if Trump's reciprocal tariffs policy does work out, he will be hailed as a hero of the American working class.

fish

Posted by: Scenes | 02 March 2018 at 05:09 PM


I've always figured that all of these rifles are somewhat overpriced as manufactured goods.


Can’t imagine why that would be!

Don Bessee

We have yet to see the specifics of the proposal @ 549. From follow on comments it sounds like it is going to be targeted and not across the boards as some po' ol' putin party parrots would have you believe. ;-)

Bill Tozer

Walt from the now closed Sandbox this morning:: South African “darkies” grabbing Y-T’s land.
It makes perfect sense to me. This global international “diversified” non-God non-borders no -cultural Shangri-La is only what old pinko professors in elite colleges and unelected members of the EU Parilment taught the snowflakes how things will be. Promise. Get ready for Big Bro and his faceless hordes telling us what is best. Sounded great in the lectures. But not so great where real people live in real countries. Nationalism is not isolation, it’s a cultural thang. That’s something the Lefties hate more than God.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1268780226589345/?type=3&theater

Funny, the liberals told us that we were all raising our kids all wrong, wrong, wrong and proceeded to teach us how to do it right. Now the arrogant haters are freaking out because they have no clue how to deal with the monsters they created.

Don Bessee

Their true colors show!

Consequently, they and their political allies are complaining loudly and often about both Trump’s lowered refugee ceiling admission number and the increase in the time and length of the Department of Homeland Security’s security vetting of potential refugees.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/02/federally-funded-non-profits-whine-about-decline-in-refugee-admissions-and-revenues/

;-)

Bill Tozer

S again. Wrong link.
Darn it, here is the link to the fantastic 7:22 pm above. South Africa, slaughter the Y-T’s, culture, and nationalism makes perfect sense in the real world.

“The Rhodesia of Spitfire pilot Ian Smith was a jewel of a nation of 250,000 whites and several million blacks that produced trade surpluses even when boycotted and sanctioned by a hating world.

When Smith was forced to yield power, “Comrade Bob” Mugabe took over and began the looting of white Rhodesians, and led his Shona tribesmen in a slaughter of the Matabele of rival Joshua Nkomo.

Eighty-five percent of the white folks who lived in Rhodesia, prior to “majority rule,” are gone from Zimbabwe. More than half of the white folks who made South Africa the most advanced and prosperous country on the continent are gone.

Are these countries better places than they were? For whom?

Looking back over this 21st century, the transnational elite that envisions the endless erosion of national sovereignty, and the coming of a new world order of open borders, free trade and global custody of mankind’s destiny, has triggered a counter-revolution.”

http://buchanan.org/blog/eternal-lure-nationalism-128811

Scenes

re: BillT@7:40PM

http://politicsweb.co.za/news-and-analysis/we-arent-calling-for-the-slaughtering-of-white-peo

Don Bessee

Didn't the speech have a yet at the end @ 8p

One for the po' ol' pollhead, still holding at 49 -

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_mar02

;-)

Don Bessee

The face of antifa-

http://www.breitbart.com/pre-viral/2018/03/02/anti-trump-democrat-arrested-white-powder-laced-mail-sent-donald-trump-jr/

;-)

Bill Tozer

Smiling Don @ 9:08 pm

Yep, the dude lives at his parents’ house and is on head meds. Been on meds for a long time. Long time. He is so plumb crazy that he is a gun control freak and a Trump hater to boot.. Oh my, what’s a mother to do? Well, I blame the parents. What were they thinking sending donations to Elizabeth Spreading Bull Warren? No wonder their boy is messed up. That family has some serious issues.

On a more serious note.......

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/1009319795884909/?type=3&theater

Don Bessee

Somehow I think most folks can deal with a half cent on a can of beer for awhile to bolster our brothers and sisters in the rust belt. One of the biggest costs in aluminum production is energy. The US thanks to fracking will be the biggest producer of energy in the world this year. That is a domestic production cost advantage that matters. Turn off the tap on inferior chi com metals is a win-win!

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trump-will-make-beer-expensive-152234604.html

;-)

Bill Tozer

I love these murder mysteries.

“And at the stoke of midnight, the town crier swung his lantern and called out, “Murder, murder in Bloomingdale. Murder.”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/1/more-cover-up-questions/

Two days after the shooting, Hillary Clinton spoke of his death during a speech advocating limiting the availability of guns.

Don Bessee

Lets all thank the socialist team 0 for prop 47 in cali and this Cruz enabling policy that empowered the most radical antifa scum to do what they are doing.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/02/teacher-coalition-seeks-to-end-obama-school-discipline-policy-a-lot-of-fear-in-schools/

;-)

Bill Tozer

More tales from a stormy night. Politics aside, I always had a soft spot for Donna Brazile.

“In a later mention of Rich, Brazile wrote that his murder haunted her. Brazile said she had a “spook” with connections to the intelligence community who advised her after Rich’s killing that she needed protection for herself.

Brazile heeded the advice and installed cameras, alarms and backup power at her home. She also kept the blinds in her DNC office window closed so she could not be seen by snipers.

The Daily Caller reported that Brazile was so concerned about Rich’s murder that she mentioned it during her brief, one-time phone call from Hillary Clinton following her loss in the 2016 election.

Brazile asked Clinton to contribute some of the millions remaining in her campaign’s legal fund as a reward for information leading to the arrest of Rich’s murderer(s).”

https://www.westernjournal.com/donna-brazile-haunted-patriot-seth-richs-murder-feared-life/

Yep, it has been one interesting bumpy ride since Citizen Trump threw his hat in the ring for the first and only time. I thought that Gold Star Mom and Muslim immigration lawyer Dad would never go away....but it did like countless other media created hysterias. Tonight I am reflecting on all the various characters that jumped out in front of Mr. Trump’s wild ride trying to stop it dead in its path. It’s like looking at the wake of a cyclone that blew through with lib bodies everywhere. Never get tired of winning.

Don Bessee

Talk about the vomit comet!

http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/article203274359.html#storylink=latest_side

Even the pilots! ;-)

jon smith

Bessee 9:53
"Somehow I think most folks can deal with a half cent on a can of beer"

Somehow I think you have the reasoning horsepower of a rock. How many thousands of pounds of steel go into bulldozers and cranes and railcars? Add 25% to the cost of steel and you are talking money. Infrastructure rebuild will use millions of tons of rebar and rails. Trump just decreased by 25% the buying power of contractors bidding heavy metal jobs. And the other countries haven't even begun to retaliate. Stupid, short term, feel good move to assuage the instant gratification folks like you.

fish

Posted by: jon smith | 03 March 2018 at 07:39 AM


instant gratification folks......


Uh....you do recall which side you argue for?

Russ

Zerohedge on Seth Rich Murder and DNC Emails

Given that a) the Russian hacking narrative hinges on Crowdstrikes's questionable reporting, and b) a mountain of evidence pointing to Seth Rich as the source of the leaked emails - it stands to reason that Congressional investigators and Special Counsel Robert Mueller should at minimum explore these leads.

As retired U.S. Navy Admiral James A. Lyons, Jr. asks: why aren't they?

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-02/contradictions-seth-rich-murder-continue-challenge-hacking-narrative

Scenes

re: Tariffs.

It's an interesting idea and worth a try I think. My guess is that this is just the first part of an ongoing negotiation and that nobody believes you'll use a thing until you actually do.

In addition, there's always the strategic issues of home-sourced raw and manufactured goods. It's funny how hopeless the US currently is in the production of some goods now, although automating factories might bring some of that home.

Personally, I don't have any religious attraction to free trade vs. taxes/tariffs. Somehow, the Green Libertarians are in a boat where they justify trade policies based on globalism and unrestricted movement of goods and people...mind you, that's after years of bitching about evil Republican outsourcing. Trumphate gets you into some weird places, I expect that the political places would be exchanged if the Clinton Crime Family had gotten into office again and her nibs had cooked up the same scheme. Witness historical Bernie Sanders statements on NAFTA.

Another example of days past:

http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/04/investing/obama-oil-tax/index.html

You certainly can't blame most people for basing politics on gut feel rather than any kind of consistent policy concepts. Personally, I don't think that you can tell what the side effects will be ahead of time.

Bill Tozer

Meanwhile, officials fear that were it to experience another big investment loss, it would pass a point of no return and never be able to pay for pension promises.

On the other hand, "protecting" CalPERS means getting more money from its client agencies, which could drive some of them into insolvency, as Hutchings said. This is not a hollow threat: three California cities have already gone bankrupt in recent years, in part because of their ever-increasing pension burdens, and payments have escalated sharply since then.

So on one hand, CalPERS is doing what it has to do to remain financially solvent, but on the other hand its self-protective steps threaten local government solvency.

That’s the crisis in a nutshell.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-24/former-calpers-board-members-shocking-admission-calpers-near-insolvency-it-needs

Scenes

re: Steel.

It occurred to me that I didn't know enough about it. An article or two.

http://www.epi.org/publication/surging-steel-imports/

https://www.trade.gov/steel/pdfs/07192016global-monitor-report.pdf

http://www.nwitimes.com/business/steel/report-finds-chinese-steel-heavily-subsidized/article_40f3f325-f230-5ff5-a57b-675200e5d0de.html

Scenes

re: BillT@8:33AM

Probably as good a reason as any to find a bolthole in another state. I'm certainly looking.

Gotta love CalPERS. If they'll guarantee me 7% (or 7.5%, even better) at the point of a gun, I'll write them a check for $1M this afternoon.

George Rebane

Scenes 840pm - The 7.5% may be all well and good, but we must all remember that there are only two ways to solve the government debt and unfunded liabilities problem - sustained growth of at least 5% or adopting the Weimar treatment as the 'final solution'. I don't think the Left will ever allow economic growth to solve any problem in the land, it would give lie to all that they have preached.

Jaye Smith

Nevada City's police chief has resigned. Maybe they don't need a police chief as such. The officers know what to do. Just pay one officer a little more to take care of the extra pencil pushing the chief used to do.

Robberies have happened in the past but I don't know how many perps were eventually caught. Complaints have been made and reports filed. Life goes on.

The City Manager is also gone along with the Director of Public Works position. Both of these positions are now be handled by long time employees but not at the pay grades of the previous department heads.

fish

Why are you gun freaks always so paranoid about everything....... all we want is a couple reasonable common sense laws.....

Here it comes

HF 3022 is now in the Legislature

– Permit required to own a gun
– Permit required to buy a gun
– Permit required to sell a gun
– Local law enforcement gets to deny all types of gun permits
– Local law enforcement gets to deny permits to carry
– Personal medical information must be shared with law enforcement
– All firearm transfers must be reported
– All guns must be registered (fees set by local law enforcement)
– Registration must be renewed annually
– Local law enforcement may conduct warrantless “safety inspections” of gun owner’s homes
– Local law enforcement sets “safe storage” policies
– Five day waiting period for all transfers
– Transfers must be done through an FFL (even between private parties)
– Fees may be charged for transfers
– Local law enforcement may conduct background investigation on transfers
– Total ban on any gun which meets broad “assault weapon” definition – banned guns must be destroyed or surrendered
– Ban thumbhole stocks
– Ban adjustable stocks
– Ban pistol grip stocks
– Limit fixed magazine capacity to 7 rounds
– Ban any magazine capable of holding more than 7 rounds
– Suspension of gun rights based on complaints from anonymous parties
– Recriminalization of suppressors
– Bump stock ban
– All ammunition sales will be registered
– Permit required to purchase ammunition

Almost forgot an important thing —

HF 3022 would also make gun owner private data public. This would include:

Number and type of guns you own
Your address


.....and you wonder why there will never be compromise.


http://www.alloutdoor.com/2018/03/01/incredible-anti-gun-bill-introduced-mn/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=2018-03-03&utm_campaign=Weekly+Newsletter

Bill Tozer

Crowdstrike: My little teenie weenie poking around shows that around $900,000 was transferred from OFA (Organizing for America) to Perkins Coie, which turned around and paid Crowdstrike to do forensic analysis of the DNC computers.

-Perkins Coie was the law firm that was used as the intermediary for Hillary for America, the DNC, and OFA to funnel money for work on the Dossier.

-FEC records as well as federal court records show that Marc Elias, the Perkins Coie lawyer whom the Washington Post reported was responsible for the payments to Fusion GPS on behalf of Clinton’s campaign and the DNC, also previously served as a counsel for OFA. (Toes says Marc Elias also worked as Obama’s personal lawyer)

-OFA is the former Obama For America, the Obama Campaign organization. After Obama won re-election and is prohibited from running for a third term, OFA changed its name to Organizing For America.

-The DNC refused to let the FBI do forensic analysis on its computers. Crowdstrike did the work. Because of the DNC’s refusal to let FBI investigators look at Its computers, no one can with any degree of certainty that da dirty Russians hacked the DNC’s computers.

Not the source of my poking around, but a link that kinda dovetails OFA’s activities.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/29/obamas-campaign-gave-972000-law-firm-funneled-money-fusion-gps/

Walt

Some more Russian monkey business our LIBS joined in on.
Did the Ruskies buy off "O" as well? We need an investigation.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/02/house-report-russia-used-social-media-disrupt-u-s-energy-markets-promoting-pipeline-protests-climate-change-debate/
"The 21-page report includes Russian posts on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram, some with photographs and slogans.

“The committee began investigating Russian attempts to influence U.S. energy markets in the summer of 2017 when Chairman [Lamar] Smith wrote [to] the Secretary of Treasury regarding Russia’s intricate money-laundering scheme. Russian-sponsored agents funneled money to U.S. environmental organizations in an attempt to portray energy companies in a negative way and disrupt domestic energy markets,” the report states."

Any "local" ECO nut get Russian funding? (Pay someone's rent maybe?)

Robert Cross

Reality check :

The American mirror: Questionable source-- "extreme bias, overt propaganda, poor or no sourcing to credible information and/or is fake news."


Zero hedge: "Conspiracy-Pseudoscience may publish unverifiable information that is not always supported by evidence....may be untrustworthy for credible/verifiable information, therefore fact checking and further investigation is recommended on a per article basis

Breitbart: "attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes, publishes misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes

Washington Times, Rasmussen Reports, "publishes factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor conservative causes.

Bill Tozer

Tariffs: Not even in the conservative credo. Trump ain’t a politican or an ideologue, except perhaps when it comes to America First and the obviously fact that it really grates on him that “We are being screwed, folks.” Yes, we are being screwed folks.

Heard only a mild outcry from the popinjays here when Trump slapped tariffs on Chinese subsidized solar panels were being dumped on our shores cheaper than the cost to make them. I figured that would have been good news for our domestic solar panel manufactures and our Mean Green Planet Saving Machine with its green jobs. But what do I know? There is a difference between tariffs and trade wars.

My Bottomline:
I am itching to hear more and more about NAFTA. Trump has never backed off saying NAFTA is the worse trade deal ever ever in the history of trade. “Terrible deal. We are getting screwed, folks.” There is something about NAFTA that tilts heavily in Mexico’s favor, big time.
Mexico will be paying for The Wall one way or another. China has always cheated, but its NAFTA that really perks my interest, more than some targeted tariffs for trade violations and manipulations over solar panels and steel. Heck, China refuses to take our recycled Al cans because they are too dirty and gum up their machines. Maybe Kaiser Aluminum will be hiring again....if they haven’t already stripped out their smelters for scrap.

Walt

Too early to be smoking crack Bobby.At least wait till Noon roles around.

MAGA Covfefe!

HF 3022 is now in the Legislature!!! Gotta love those Minnesotans,,, STATE'S RIGHTS!!!

Go Team Trump!!! What team,,,oh yeah,,,Trumpski's A-team is toast,,, cannot wait to see what the B-team does!!!

MAGA

Walt

Well clueless,, think the criminals will follow that proposed law?
Good luck with that. Again, it's proves what an idiot you are.

Robert Cross


Trump has made 2,436 false or misleading claims since taking office. and you folks still trust this man.... Oh I forgot, the fake news and propaganda sites you base your beliefs on tells you different and all of the other sources of information are fake, just ask trump he will tell you the truth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/03/02/president-trump-made-2436-false-or-misleading-claims-so-far/?utm_term=.f0588430d3d0

Have some more Kool-Aid Walt, it will calm your nerves and shield you from the truth you seem to abhor.

George Boardman

The Trump tariffs will benefit about 140,000 steel and aluminum workers, but will hurt about 6.5 million people who work for companies that use large amounts of steel and aluminum.

Then there's the retaliation from other countries. If they're smart, they'll target the major industries in red states, like agriculture. Even Trump's biggest local fan boy, Doug LaMalfa, might be tempted to criticize his fearless leader if tariffs imposed by other countries kill the export market for California rice.

If the Republicans are going to run in the mid-terms on the economy and tax cuts, this is not the way to do it.

Bill Tozer

Oh MAGA Covfefe,

It’s so transparent. Your side (The Leftist Deep State) was been quite busy trying to get rid of everyone in Trump’s inner circle to throw the President off his game and isolate the man. The CIA’s best Crypto -Psychos have been trying to rattle Trump’s cage. Get rid of the person Trump trusts most and without reservation, his confidant Hope Hicks.
Next is Jarad and then they will be gunning for Ivanka. Hope and Ivanka, the two most trusted women in Trump’s inner circle must go. They have been doing what good advisors (and women) do with a man like Trump, i.e., civillize the savage beast, soften the rough edges. It’s working too good and killings the “Trump is Hilter gone mad” narrative.

It’s family that Trump is all about at the core. His kids, his family business, his family Empire. That’s where the fight comes in...attacking Trump’s family to isolate him and throw him for a big loop.

Don’t believe me? Just look at the first poke by Hillary at the first debate. Straight out of the gate she says Trump’s daddy gave him 9 million bucks to start his business. Trump said it wadn’t 9 million, that’s a lie, but he got off track and ok nearly half of the debate to recover. Don’t matter if daddy gave Donald one million, two million, or 6-12 million. He damage was done.
The Deep Administrative State had their best shrinks feeding My Gal that zinger to start the 2016 Presidential debates.

The Leftist Deep State slammed and attacked Hope for over nine hours. Nothing to do with Russian Collusion, just to break her down. Few men could have endured what Hope went through without breaking. Got her to agree to something she did not say.

What was it that Chucky the Clown warned Trump about? Oh yeah, if you mess with the Intel agencies, they have six ways to Sunday to get at you.” Chucky gets all his money from Wall Street banks and he is part of the Lefty Deep State. So is Meuller and Woof Blitzer. Add the Administrative State, Brennen, Intel agencies and a bunch of Dems and the Swamp has a thick layer of pond scum coming to the surface.

Run on the lights and the cockroaches scurry away.

Don Bessee

Confirmation that the greens are indeed po' ol' putin party parrots-

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/02/house-report-russia-used-social-media-disrupt-u-s-energy-markets-promoting-pipeline-protests-climate-change-debate/

;-)

Walt

Poor Bob.. "O" lied every time he opened his mouth. but who's counting...
Proggys are incapable of telling the truth.. Nothing new there.
But Trump is still President. You still have 7 years of whining to do. Pace yourself.

Gregory

Bobby C 945am

And that would earn you an F in any rational grading scheme. Reality check indeed.

Were the sources as bad as you claim, any use would be easily countered.

Thanks for the blurbs that Washington Times and Rassmussen Reports are known to publish factual information. And the claim for Zerohedge, that fact checking and further investigation is recommended on a per article basis, should go for ANYTHING one reads ANYWHERE.

Walt

Uh,, Boardman. So butthurt nations will forgo food(rice) and starve their people because their pissed at Trump? Do explain how that would work in their favor.

We can always convert the excess rice into ethanol. Burning food for fuel was such a great idea from Proggys.

Bill Tozer

1). Walt, Boardman is right. Might hurt the soy bean producers. But, let the R’s run anyway they choose in the mid-terms. They can disagree with Trump and find that sweet spot. Blame Trump on tariffs and steel....and say it loud......especially to the forgotten man in the Rust Belt. Go ahead, run against “the forgotten people will be forgotten no more.”

Trump is his own man and doing what he said he would do on the campaign trail.

Oh, Trump drives the Consitutional Conservatives and righties in general up the Wall with tariff and some other talk. Gets their temperature a’rising. But, all in all, the Conservatives are most surprised and pleased with Trump’s conservative streak. Not bad for what some had feared, Trump being a Democrat at heart and all.

2) And the other half don’t want their country back. Thus the Great Divide

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10215209460020116&set=p.10215209460020116&type=3&theater

Bill Tozer

Must be a new arrival here. They take a couple years to mellow out a bit. You should see them whine when the P.O. does not open after lunch exactly on time. Mercy, such impatience.

8:17 a.m. — A caller from the 800 block of Sutton Way reported a man accusing staff of being racist because he is not being served in the meat department which is not open yet.

jon smith

A new tariff on European cars?? HOW will this, by any way, shape, or form help America and Americans in the long run? Wait until the world retaliates. The man has no plan. It's like a new reality show, "Improve at the White House."

Todd Juvinall

Fair and free trade is a two way street. He says you charge American companies 50% then we charge you the same. Been going on all my life. Look at the trade deficit as it is the best example of the giant "sucking sound" Mr. Perot warned about.

Bill Tozer

Oh jon smith.

European cars? Nah. Just cars made in Mexico. Besides, all the states already charge luxury taxes for yachts and fine European luxury cars. Time to open up more foreign car plants in the South. It’s the in thing to do.

jon smith

Brother Bill 11:52 - Wrong. European cars. He WANTS a trade war.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/03/03/canadian-pm-justin-trudeau-rejects-trumps-tariffs-absolutely-unacceptable/391805002/

Walt

It's time to call the Ca. LIBS what they are. Communists.
https://nypost.com/2018/03/02/california-dems-hard-left-turn-could-be-the-whole-partys-future/
So Libbys,, what's your real affiliation? A National Socialist,
or a Putin Commie drone?
It's about time you trade in your hard headed donkey mascot for a shiny new communist bear.( It's already on the Calif. flag.. No new expense there.)

George Rebane

RobertC 1009am - Is this a typical citation from the Left? There is no link to the alleged "2,436 false or misleading claims" by Trump. No way to assess their scope, differentiation, and substance. No way to compare them against what similar false and misleading claims were made by previous presidents - start with the mega-star Obama. It's just a bald partisan statement from acknowledged left-leaned outlets that has all the progressives palpitating and genuflecting in a direction they know not where.

Walt

A new double standard!
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-feral-bulls-20180302-story.html
Feral cattle on a "new" monument. Yet they have been there about 100 years.
Now to the double standard..
Save the "feral" horses!! Gotta adopt them out!Let'm run FREE!! Cows? shoot on sight."They don't belong here! They mess with our trail hiking."
Who griped? Friends of the mountain goat. Those "friends" forget that cows and mountain goats don't share the same real estate?

Bill Tozer

Oh jon, that’s just Trump playing 52 card pick up with the Euros, Britain excluded thanks to Nigel. The element of surprise. Soon, like NATO, they will be paying their fair share. Like telling Metrosexual Kim that we can put one right up his ass, rocket boy. The art of the deal.

It wasn’t the damage to the airfield and buildings with chemical weapons in Syria that was the point. The point is the element of surprise.... and leading, not leading from behind. Trade War! Let’s get ready to rumble! Mike Tyson running amok biting his opponent’s ear off and now beating the crap out of the referee!
Yep, that Trump is something else. Oh yeah, America is open for business. Let’s make a deal. Hold my beer.

Bill Tozer

Boy, Trump just blew all that silly gun talk right off the front page. Trade war? Smooth move, President Trump.

Robert Cross

Gregory 10:37: I am just telling you what the fact checkers are claiming..I am not claiming anything. And it is a reality check on the questionable and /or biased sources right wingers seem to take as absolute truth in constructing their view of world events.


George: "Is this a typical citation from the Left? There is no link to the alleged..... "

same link as posted above..There is plenty of information out there to confirm trump's lies and misrepresentations if one only cares enough to look for it. And who cares what previous administrations did or didn't do. That trumpeters keep deflecting the fact that trump is a liar by saying "the other guys did it also" is fallacious reasoning and in no way legitimizes the tweeter-in-chief's lies.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/03/02/president-trump-made-2436-false-or-misleading-claims-so-far/?utm_term=.f0588430d3d0

fish

Posted by: Robert Cross | 03 March 2018 at 01:06 PM


The Hillary supporter is worried about a politician telling lies! Sounds like somebody spent too much time sniffing exhaust pipes!

#shagbacktotheamericanprospect

Bill Tozer

Fact checkers? From the Sandbox last night.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/03/02/facebook-apologizes-for-threatening-to-censor-the-babylon-bee/

Bill Tozer

Who fact checks the factcheckers?

http://thefederalist.com/2018/01/10/googles-new-factchecker-is-partisan-garbage/

Scenes

re: Rebane: "Scenes 840pm - The 7.5% may be all well and good,"

You do have to wonder why a ROI would exceed the growth of an economy generally, but my general notion is to beat that number by force of arms. I'll write them a check if they can enforce an annuity for me.

To me, what I see in CalPERS is a general push towards a Latin American form of economy. Beaucoup poor folks, a handful of elite, and a middle class made up of government employees.

Pretty sweet if you aren't in the poor folk class.

Walt

Well Bobby,, Before you even start pointing fingers about a President lying, Look no further than the sales pitch about free health care by your own. " Prices will go DOWN not UP!" You can keep your plan! Your Doc!" and sent the nation into ruin.

So what does YOUR "fact checkers" say about that?

Now don't forget to pay up for "covered Ca." A 1000 bucks a month.( with a 12 thou deductible)

Walt

We can't leave out the AGW scam. Yes,,, PROOF is a scam.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/03/scientists-admit-better-thermometers-climate-change/
For meteorologist Anthony Watts this is a big moment. Watts published research in 2015 that found scientists used “compromised” weather stations to make adjustments to U.S. temperature data that inflated the warming trend by as much as 50 percent.

Russ


Republicans Accuse Russia of Using Social Media to Roil U.S. Energy Policy

By Ari Natter and Alan Bjerga
2 March 2018, 01:25 GMT+10 Updated on 2 March 2018, 03:56 GMT+10

The same Russian operatives accused of manipulating the 2016 U.S. presidential election used inflammatory social media posts to disrupt U.S. energy policy, including inciting environmentalists to protest against pipeline projects, House Republicans said in a report released Thursday.

The report, released by the House Science Committee, said it found evidence Russian-sponsored agents used Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram to suppress the research and development of fossil fuels and stymie efforts to expand the use of natural gas and fracking.

“This report reveals that Russian agents created and spread propaganda on U.S. social media platforms in an obvious attempt to influence the U.S. energy market,” Texas Representative Lamar Smith, the chairman of the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee, said in a statement. “Russian agents attempted to manipulate Americans’ opinions about pipelines, fossil fuels, fracking and climate change.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-01/russia-accused-of-using-social-media-to-roil-u-s-energy-policy

Who knew? According to the report, Hillary Clinton was fully aware of Russian efforts;

… Former Secretary of State and then-presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, with access to intelligence reports, made a private speech in 2014, according to documents from WikiLeaks, which included statements about the struggles of dealing with Russian-backed environmental groups. According to a media report, Secretary Clinton said the following: “We [the State Department and the U.S.] were up against Russia pushing oligarchs and others to buy media. We were even up against phony environmental groups, and I’m a big environmentalist, but these were funded by the Russians to stand against any effort, ‘Oh that pipeline, that fracking, that whatever will be a problem for you,’ and a lot of the money supporting that message was coming from Russia.”

Ban the Bots!

Bill Tozer

Don’t know why we even bother with Bobbie. He is just a Russian bot anyway,
Nothing has changed since last June when Mr. Goodwin wrote this:

The coverage of him grew so vicious and one-sided that last August I wrote a column on the unprecedented bias. Under the headline “American Journalism Is Collapsing Before Our Eyes,” I wrote that the so-called cream of the media crop was “engaged in a naked display of partisanship” designed to bury Trump and elect Hillary Clinton.

The evidence was on the front page, the back page, the culture pages, even the sports pages. It was at the top of the broadcast and at the bottom of the broadcast. Day in, day out, in every media market in America, Trump was savaged like no other candidate in memory. We were watching the total collapse of standards, with fairness and balance tossed overboard. Every story was an opinion masquerading as news, and every opinion ran in the same direction—toward Clinton and away from Trump.

For the most part, I blame The New York Times and The Washington Post for causing this breakdown. The two leading liberal newspapers were trying to top each other in their demonization of Trump and his supporters. They set the tone, and most of the rest of the media followed like lemmings.

https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/2016-election-demise-journalistic-standards/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=demise-journalistic-standards

Don Bessee

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/03/03/nolte-trump-delivers-peace-prosperity-chicken-little-media-freak-out-again/

;-)

George Rebane

RobertC 106pm - Mr Cross, that is not a link to any citation of explanatory data, let alone verifiable data. Well maybe it is for you and yours. But making a claim of fact, and then saying, "there's plenty of information out there ..." if one only cares to look for it, provides less than sophomoric support. That is not the way reasoned arguments proceed.

And I have no idea how you deduced from my 1243pm that I was attempting to excuse Trump on the basis of what other presidents did. I and other critical thinkers would like to have a basis for assessing Trump's performance in that job relative to his predecessors - there is a difference, think about it.

But comparing the performance of the current administration to former administrations is a favorite American pastime practiced by all. These pages are full of charges and counter-charges comparing Obama to his predecessors. Apparently you of the Left cared heaps when Obama and Bush2 were in office, and recently you have conveniently forgotten. No matter.

Scenes 139pm - OK, I understand. And I also understand that our Left has been doing all they can to push us toward a third world economy and social order as exemplified by quite a few of our Latin neighbors. They just don't want to come out and tell us.

Don Bessee

They just don't want to come out and tell us.@326 But they sure as heck are signaling intent-

https://nypost.com/2018/03/02/california-dems-hard-left-turn-could-be-the-whole-partys-future/

;-)

Todd Juvinall

I think "jon Smith" is actually Linda Campbell. Go read her unhinged posts on the Porter article in the Union.

George Rebane

Administrivia - I draw your kind attention to the updates in the latest 'Ruminations' post -
http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2018/02/ruminations-27feb18.html

jon smith

Lee Todd Juvinall Jr 5:38.
Got your number mister.

Robert Cross

In the "Now is your chance to put your money where your mouths are" dep't. : Your old pal Roy "molester' Moore has run out of money trying to defend himself from a lawsuit and wants you to donate to the cause. I thought some of you might be interested in helping ole Roy out seeing as how some folks don't seem to have a problem with gropers like Moore and Donald Trump, and yes I know Bubba Clinton was a groper also and probably Hillary.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/roy-moore-legal-defense-donations_us_5a9ac5d2e4b089ec353ab8f2

Did you also know that Milania got an "Einstein" green card when she came to the US. Those visas are reserved for people of renown, accomplishments, or with a significant talent. She was dating Trump at the time she got her visa. I wonder just what her significant talent was? She also brought her parents into the country under the program her husband is now trying to halt. Ironic isn't it.

fish

Posted by: Robert Cross | 03 March 2018 at 06:44 PM


Yeah......Cap’n Poopy Pants got his Depends in a bunch over that a few days ago! She married the billionaire president of the United States.......genius!

Gregory

There ain't no such thang as a "fact checker", Bobby C 106pm. There are just people (like the guy at Snopes) with opinions, and as we know, like assholes, most people have an opinion.

If you can't "fact check" your chosen fact checker, you probably shouldn't bother using them as a reference.


Todd... I am blown away at your apparent unmasking of "jon smith" as the very silly Linda Campbell, and their response at 629pm seems to be a mea culpa. Congratulations, sir.

Linda Campbell... just wondering... will you be running for the NJUHSD Trustee spot a'gin this year?

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