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24 March 2018

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Todd Juvinall

The Union editorial was spot on. And the little kidlets are doing the bidding of the old hippie protestors from what I have seen on the TV channels.

Scott Obermuller

It isn't just the young who are ignorant and emotional - and there are plenty of the young who are intelligent and rational but won't be allowed anywhere near a microphone. Paul Emery told me I should 'listen' to these morons as I might 'learn' something. All I heard was the usual left wing lies and BS.
I have yet to hear any sort of rational and comprehensive proposal from the left that would actually address the problem of gun violence.
The NRA is a gun safety and civil rights organization - who's against that?

Gregory

ABC news had a piece with young David Hogg where they presented him with their poll results... that 57% saw the school shootings as a mental health issue, or a lack of gun control laws which got a 28%. Hogg then went right into his memorized statement.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/parkland-school-shooting-survivor-march-lives-start-revolution/story?id=53981583

Hogg's mother is a democratic activist, his dad works for the FBI. Hogg has found his calling, we shall see if he's the second coming of Sarah Brady or Cindy Sheehan. I'd bet on the latter.

Gregory

Those calling for a National Safe Space and Freedom from Gun Worry Act need to go to the heart of the matter, put into play a proposed constitutional amendment to repeal the 2nd.

That's the only way to make it stop hurting.

Good luck!

To show solidarity, I expect everyone who wants to solve the gun crisis to place a placard stating "Gun Free Home" or "Gun Free Business" where they live and work. Otherwise, you're just piggybacking onto the people who have a gun and might, just might, shoot an unwanted intruder.

In some towns, breaking and entering is an act of Russian Roulette; in others, it's akin to suicide. Place your bets.

Bill Tozer

Boy, little Hogg and gang don’t like the empty backpack rule. Violates their 1st Amendment rights. The old balancing security vs civil liberties dilemma. Sophie’s Choice.

https://www.facebook.com/STFUDavidHogg/photos/a.2021912284698623.1073741828.2021909471365571/2032706320285886/?type=3&theater

Gregory

Wellll, the pigglet is mixing up the bill of rights (the clear backback could be seen as a 4th Amendment violation I suppose but not the 1st) but then, he doesn't understand the 2nd, either.

George Boardman

You better be careful praising editorials in The Union. You might be accused of having a conflict of interest because your wife is on the editorial board.

ArchieBunker

Selectively senile self-satisfied seniors surely suffer syndromes similar to the progressively propelled pubertistas. Just take a look at the politicians, organizations, and media that promote them. Get off my lawn; I have a gun; No on NH2020; No on MJ; No on high speed rail; no! No! NO!
Burma-Shave

scenes

I wouldn't worry so much about Hogg's speechifying. It's merely a combination of young guy silly politics and a bit of a career building exercise. Obviously, he's hoping he can work this whole activism phase into either a slot in a decent school or some sort of political media gig.

re: The cartoon:

. we need affordable housing
. we need homeless shelter
. we need crazy people facilities
. we need shopping center
. we need dope

as something of an oblique take on this, when I was growing up, none of those questions were asked or even much needed. So what happened?

scenes

re: ArchieBunker@1:53PM

"No on high speed rail; no! No! NO!"

It's funny how that's even political. Hell dude, it's a one party state, simply build the thing. It's isn't like the evil Orange Hitler 'pubbers' have a bit of say here. Go for it.

Same goes for marijuana, guns, the third world invasion, all your favorite issues. The only limitation is the federal government, and the local federal court is as insane as your average California resident.

I wonder sometimes how much a ticket should cost on, say, a SF to LA train. By 'ticket' I mean some sort of tithe that breaks even. The only other line you could make a slight case for might be LA to Las Vegas I suppose.

Somehow, this is supposed to be more efficient than existing short haul airlines or buses. Wait a few years, and the buses will be robot-driven. I guess there's some magic to rails that make it all super efficient.

Seriously, Archie Bunker, if your belief system is so wondrous, why can't California be an amazing place to live? A few natural ports, nice weather, and the beach are not your fault. Why can't you make the whole state homeless friendly with free health care?

George Rebane

GeorgeB 153pm - Well yes Mr Boardman, but the careful reader will note that these pages are complete with a generous compilation of both hits and misses for the Union's content over the years. And I take great pleasure in noting the kind of people whose nose might get out of joint due to such alleged conflicts of interest - my advice to them is 'learn to live with it'.

ArchieBunker

Looks like a decent size crowd today at the pubic happening,

https://s.abcnews.com/images/International/march-for-our-lives-washington-15-gty-er-180324_hpMain_4x3_992.jpg

Scott Obermuller

Archie - yes there was quite a crowd. What was the cost and the carbon footprint of getting everyone there? How many hungry children died of starvation somewhere in the world for lack of funds that were instead spent on a bunch of ranting fools parading around exposing their ignorance to the world? But of course those are only questions we ask when it's not the left that are involved.
As for Archie's post at 1:53 - We can discuss the issues point by point, but you know you haven't got a clue.
Kids in my neighborhood can play on my lawn any time they want - I think you're projecting.
Yes on the Bill of Rights, yes on reducing the crushing burden of govt debt, yes on liberty, yes on freedom.
But Archie says - "no, no, no, no!"
See how that works, Archie? Now go back to watching TV and swilling beer.

Scott Obermuller

Estimates for the rabble in DC today are 800K. Wow - The NRA has over 4 million and growing daily, thanks to fools like Hogg.
Sorry Archie - you lose.

George Rebane

It does again corroborate the tenet that the Left believes that the verity of what a mob promotes is proportional to the size of the mob.

Scott Obermuller

But, but, but, George - Oprah and Sir Paul and Clooney!!!!

Scenes

re: AB@3:57pm

Good sized group. An interesting way to present it (given by the party organ naturally).

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000005812020/a-360-degree-view-of-the-march-for-our-lives-protest.html

The professional Left is good at getting out a crowd, there's no doubt. With the Russian deal losing traction, guns are an excellent next step. Q. Is the notion of outlawing firearms a powerful enough thing to base a political movement on? Dunno.

Bill Tozer

Gotta feel sorry for our contrarians. They only thing they have for all their efforts is a few memento photos of a crowd and dirt. No Russian Collusion, no crime to be found, no policies, no there there. Where’s the beef? Where’s their burger in their nothingburger?
Nothing but “I went to the March on Guns and all I got was this Lousy Tee Shirt” and dirt to throw on Trump. All they have is a handful of dirt to sling...consensual sexual intercourse between two willing adults dirt and nary a bloody lip on any of the gals. Just like Camelot.
Well, they tried criminal and that was a rabbit hole. Dirt might work as a winning strategy, bless their little Archie Bunker hearts.

Rather than belabor the point, I will take Hillary and Michele's lead and say, “When they go low, we go high.”

Paul Emery

George

You say that the student protestors " sport brains that clinical science tells us are yet years from being fully formed for taking reliably rational decisions."

Since most of them are juniors or seniors in High school how many years are you referring to and are you not supporting the argument that 18 and 19 year olds are too young and immature to purchase AR 15 rifles?

Scott Obermuller

Paul - let's turn that around once more - too immature to own a fire arm (it used to be acceptable and not a problem for 12 yr olds to own a rifle) yet they have the wisdom to upend 230 plus years of freedom and liberty with half baked slogans?
We await your reply.
I suggest that Paul view the video Gregory posted the link to at 12:41.
HoggHead couldn't even reply to a simple question put to him.

George Rebane

PaulE 705pm - Paul, insanity is not age dependent. The researchers tell us that a human brain matures somewhere in the 22-25 age bracket. Purchasing a gun to go target shooting or hunting or any other legal use of it should be based on sanity and demonstrated responsibility. Yes, younger 'normal' kids are not always responsible and that's why we require that they live under adult supervision until some arbitrary age like 16 or 18. At 18 we consider them trainable for responsibility in doing defined tasks as, say, required in the military. While under adult supervision, it is the legal guardian adult who should make the decision whether junior should have what kind of gun. If we cannot trust said adult, then we need a makeover of our culture since we depend on such adults to keep the little savages in line as they mature. What kind of state intervention do you propose for taking over what functions our legal guardians have had for generations?

Paul Emery

George

You claim that the students in the march are mot mature enough yet at 18 they are no longer under adult supervision yet within the "years from being fully formed ". therefore how can you justify allowing 18 year olds that are no longer under adult supervision to buy AR 15 rifles. Quite simply my friend you make no sense and your argument is not substantiated by your own admission that they are not old or mature enough to make decisions.

Paul Emery

One more thing George. While It can be argued that an 18 year old under adult supervision and with permission may be allowed to possess an AR15, does the same right apply to an 18 or 19 year old who is not under adult supervision. Also can you provide more details about what is the age that the brain is developed enough to purchase and possess an AR 15 rifle. Since "years" is plural and the vast majority of the protesting young people are of high school age and are probably 16 or 17 years you imply that they need to be 20 or 21 to reach a level of maturity.

Gregory

Paul, an AR-15 isn't any deadlier than any other .22 caliber centerfire rifle. It just isn't.

Scott Obermuller

Paul continues blowing wind yet ducks my question. 12 year olds used to walk around with fire arms and no massacres occurred. What has happened in the interval?
They are wise enough to upend our civil liberties, and vote on our leadership, yet too stupid to possess a fire arm? Can't have it both ways. I contend a properly raised 18 year old knows enough to operate a fire arm safely yet most 30 or 40 year olds have no conception of what they vote for. Any low IQ person can operate a fire arm safely. It's not difficult at all.
Here is factual knowledge the left wants to ignore.
https://spectator.org/what-26-of-27-mass-shooters-shared-in-common/

Todd Juvinall

Looks to me like the kids march today was actually a parents march. Every old fart hippie and lib were out on the pavement.

Russ

The March For Our Lives Forms Up A Dark Money Group To Hide Its Donors


The March For Our Lives against gun violence, organized by kids for kids, quietly registered as a 501(c)(4) with the D.C. Department of Consumer and Regulatory Affairs, The Washington Free Beacon reports — a designation that allows the March to keep its big money donors secret from prying eyes.

According to WFB, the March, whose signature event is scheduled for this Saturday, decided to incorporate as a "social welfare" organization, and a non-profit, but not a 501(c)(3), a designation which would have allowed those who donated to the March to claim their contributions as tax deductions, but which would have required the March itself to submit a list of their contributors to the IRS.

[. . .]

One thing is clear from the March's paperwork: the kids are definitely no longer in charge.

It was already evident that major leftists organizations were dictating the March's agenda and schedule. Buzzfeed reported weeks ago that Everytown for Gun Safety, the Giffords organization, Planned Parenthood, and the Women's March had all taken critical roles in organizing Saturday's event. Key Democratic legislators, like Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL), moved in on the kids quickly, and helped facilitate meetings with progressive groups.

The paperwork lists Jeri Rhodes as the March's top official. Rhodes, according to WFB, "lobbies Congress and the administration to advance peace, justice, opportunity, and environmental stewardship," and was formerly the chief financial officer of Greenpeace.


The Huffington Post also discovered that while the kids are theoretically in charge, a "board of directors" that reads like a who's who of progressive activists will decide how the nearly $4 million the kids have raised is spent.

George Kieffer, chair of the Board of Regents of the University of California; Jeri Rhodes, who is with the Friends Committee on National Legislation, a Washington-based lobbying group founded by Quakers; Aileen Adams; who served under former Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa; Nina Vinik, an attorney who has a background in gun violence prevention; Vernetta Walker from BoardSource, an organization that provides support for nonprofit leaders; and Melissa Scholz, an attorney who has expertise in nonprofit law.

The Parkland students will serve as an "advisory board" with no apparent official say over how the funds are dispersed.

The March for Our Lives website says donations will go towards covering expenses so that students can attend the protest in Washington, D.C., but the March's public relations firm told HuffPo that whatever's left over will go to "'fight for comprehensive gun safety legislation' and to promote voter education, ballot initiatives and lobbying efforts."

[. . .]

Now, it seems, they're using the same designation to keep donors to the March out of the loop as to how their money is being spent, and where their donations are really going — because, it appears, those donations aren't going to the Parkland students.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/28550/march-our-lives-forms-dark-money-group-hide-its-emily-zanotti?

Younger front men and women, but it is still all politics under the blanket

Bonnie McGuire

Russ...It's pretty obvious that it's the same o same o pschycological-political indoctrination education used by the German Nazis and communist socialists last century. The world pschycology leader "Russia" now calls it the new mental warfare that doesn't require guns etc. First ya drug the kids and then ya hypnotize em to do whatever...It's sad to watch. I read somewhere that it was illegal for schools to encourage this behavior.

George Rebane

PaulE 818pm - I don't think I was able to communicate anything to you in my 725pm. Your logic is not comprehensible to me any more than apparently is mine to you. We permit people 18 to be trained to kill in the military, and people 16 to drive lethal weapons down the road. No one is talking about taking those privileges away. Why?

Paul Emery

George

On one hand you say the kids in the march are too young and undeveloped mentally to have and express opinions on gun violence yet they are able to purchase and possess AR 15's at the age of 18. So possession of AR15's by immature teenagers is ok but expressing their views in public is not because they are immature. Doesn't add up George.

Paul Emery

Scott

Are you saying 12 year olds should be able to possess AR 15's?

Bill Tozer

Funny yet sad: The kids and adults marching about actually think that gun laws will keep them safe. It’s like a Greek Tragedy. Laugh or cry? I am still laughing. Gun laws will make them safe? Beam me up, Scotty

ArchieBunker

Looking at all those youngsters passionately protesting NRA panderers I see so many energetic future Democratic voters . Hat tip to the NRA!

Todd Juvinall

Anyone have the stats on the age of murderers? Would be interesting to see where this idea of age comes from.

Scott Obermuller

Paul there are 12 year olds with more maturity and wisdom than you possess. If you have a conversation with them and ask them a question, they give a forthright answer. You should listen to those kids, you might learn something.

jon smith

George 9:03-
The second someone argues, "an AR-15 isn't any deadlier than any other .22 caliber centerfire rifle." they have branded themselves as an idiot. A hand grenade or a hydrogen bomb isn't any deadlier either.

I am not against the private ownership of AR 15s, but I am against your "logic" to promote the argument. Lets wait for Todd to wade into this. Then we can really look stupid.

Bill Tozer

1) If all the non NRA members out would stop shooting people, gun violence would drop by 100%. All in all, I still,believe nothing will come of,it, safe some dancing around the edges. Shall not be infringed is pretty clear.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1847635811922176&set=p.1847635811922176&type=3&theater

2) To date, every person that has ever walked into the NRA headquarters has walked out
alive. Can’t say the same thing for some of the organizers of the march.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.254420818025296.63999.217926015008110/1283753291758705/?type=3&theater

Walt

Mzzzz. "jon" just showed her ignorance of knowledge of weapons.
Thanks.
So do explain how a .22VS.223 will kill you more deader.
In the right hands, a sling shot is deadly at over 50 yards.
Ever seen the packaged ammo for slingshots "jon"? Ball bearings.
(you can buy one today at Kmart.. NO background check required)

Bill Tozer

“The second someone argues, "an AR-15 isn't any deadlier than any other .22 caliber centerfire rifle." they have branded themselves as an idiot.“

Well, if one added the word “slightly” to the sentence, he would be 100% correct. An AR-15 22 rifle is slightly more powerful than a 22 rifle.

jon smith

Bill 8:53 - You just failed hunter safety question #21. The word powerful isn't in the statement. Deadlier is. Walt is right (but he apparently misread my statement) even a screw driver is as deadly as a .22. The point has nothing to do with deadly and everything to do with kill rate.

Walt

More horse shit "jon". " kill rate".. Just what orifice South of your belt line did you pull that from?
Typical Leftist.. Make sh*t up as you go.

Scott Obermuller

"an AR-15 isn't any deadlier than any other .22 caliber centerfire rifle."
Both can kill - how much deader than dead do you want?
If you are talking about the 'power' of a certain type of ammo, then we can discuss velocity, projectile mass, etc.
A .22 rim fire rifle is a deadly weapon. So is a .223 center fire rifle. They both need to be handled in the same safe manner.

Walt

I have a single shot .22 another that holds 15 in the tube, another that can take magazines.(Pick your count)
Which is more "deadly" Mzzzz."jon"??
Shoots your analogy full of holes.

Scott Obermuller

And js at 8:59 - 'kill rate'. Second time you've brought that up, jonnie boy. You have yet to tell us what your acceptable rate of kill is.

jon smith

Never heard that term Walt? With your twist of logic, tell us why they don't arm soldiers with .22 single shot rifles and a screwdriver for backup. Sure would be a lot less expensive.

Walt

One more for the self proclaimed "gun expert".
Which is "more deadly" Mzzzz."jon"? AR15 or AR10? Can you tell the difference?(have you even paid attention?)
Are ALL AR style weapons the caliber? Any more "deadly" than the next?

Walt

LOL "jon". Keep digging that hole. "kill rate" the next Proggy terminology to go by.


jon smith

Lotta backpedaling going on! Go back and read my original post. Your response is is pretty much like mine. None of these weapons is any more deadly than the next. Some will kill a lot more people in a shorter span of time though.

George Rebane

PaulE 1123pm – I think you just dished out another dollop of your inpenetrable logic. Wherever have I stated that young people “expressing their views in public is not (permitted) because they are immature”? Do you just make this stuff up and then ascribe it to someone else, or is there some more complex process at work here for which some treatment may be available? 😉

jons 833am – Mr smith, you have a dismal record of understanding, let alone penetrating, any logic that I use. Your current comment now refers to and stands against some “logic” (your quotes) you ascribe to me which is non-existent, since I don’t have a 903 AM or PM. Perhaps it was another one of my pithy repartees that confused you, and which you meant to address.

Paul Emery


scott writes

"12 year olds used to walk around with fire arms and no massacres occurred. "

So Scott in you're view it's OK for 12 yearolds to personally purchase and possess AR 15's.

Walt

Your "kill rate" or mine Mzzzz."jon"?
Let me know when you can hit 10 targets, @ 30 yards, spaced 10 yards apart in under 4.6 seconds.
( My winning score in Vegas last year.)

It's not bragging when you can do it.

ArchieBunker

A frying pan can be deadly. But how many people can you kill and how fast can you kill with a frying pan?
A semi-auto with a bunch of large capacity magazines can kill a lot more people a lot faster that an angry housewife with a cast iron frying pan.

Ban semi-autos with detachable magazines. You are a crappy deer hunter if you need a banana clip to get the job done. Deer just stop and stare at me when I come up on them. Even po' l'il Donnie Trump Jr. could probably do it in one shot.

Walt

Paul has nutted up. Paul.. Should they be given the right to vote instead? They are apparently wise enough for that,,, right?
LIBS are trying to let them tell us what rights we should have.
Just look at kid Hogg.

Walt

Sure "wife beater",, you would know about a pissed woman with a skillet.( probably had it coming)

George Rebane

re ArchieB 1005am - please note how our progressive friends like to continually orbit the 'deer hunting' argument for which the Second Amendment was NOT included in our Constitution. It gives them such joy because they believe that you, like the lion's share of their constituents, know no better. And therefore its recounting will also be an epiphany, no matter how frequently revisited.

Gregory

walt 935am oooh oooh walt I know the answer. The AR-10, a functional equivalent to the Ruger Mini-30.

jon smith 833am you are a blithering idiot today, getting both my name and other facts wrong. Good job!

Let's be clear, people; I stated a truism... a .223 Remington/5.56NATO round is centerfire, and there's nothing magic about the AR-15 firing it. The Ruger Mini-14 is functionally equivalent to the AR-15 and the bullet won't be any less dangerous whether shot point blank or from 100 yards away. Mini-14 box magazines can also be had that hold up to 40 rounds.

But even Feinstein's latest proposed gun ban list exempts sales of the Ruger. Why is that? Equal protection of the law and all that? It's because there are too many Ruger owners to risk pissing them off and they don't look like the AR-15.

A tiny round like the .22LR is also deadly. Even a .22Short target round can kill, I suppose. But they aren't centerfire and hold a fraction of the powder that a 5.56NATO can.

The mother of all centerfire .22 rifle cartridges, around since 1950, a popular target and varmint round:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.222_Remington


Walt

Proggys will want hunting rifles banned next. You know,, any weapon used in wartime can't be in civilian hands.(LIB think)
Just what weapons do snipers use? ( The same ones that most hunters use for game hunting)

Gregory

Is this a hunting rifle? Does it look like a hunting rifle?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M40_rifle

What about this one?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_Model_700

Bill Tozer

Oh, I must have missed that one in Elementary School. The 2nd Amendment was written to protect us from rampaging herds of deer. Right.......

https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913.80726.51560645913/10155513442110914/?type=3&theater

Gregory

Paul 1003am

Dead puppies, again?

Walt

Where did the Proggys go? Their lack of smarts on what they bring up to argue about comes back to bite?(again)
Mzzzz. "jon" refuses to answer my questions.( learned that from Paul no doubt)

Paul Emery

What does dead puppies mean Gregory?

Gregory

Dead puppies aren't mean, Paul.

Bill Tozer

I plead ignorance. Have not read one article on The March Against Guns or bothered to watch one clip. With that said, I am interested from hearing from those who watched the march on the tellie or Internet.
1). Did they talk a lot about what just happened in Maryland? Shooter dead, 2 injured.
2) Did they talk about reforming the Promise Program?
3) Did they talk about more money for mental health?
4) Were there discussions about metal detectors at schools? Some are opposed to the concept, but a few large schools use them. Just wondering.
5). Read here that one of the coordinators of the March Of Mad Mothers Against Drunk Ducks were they same bunch who organized the Women’s March. If they don’t believe in biological gender, how can they have a Women’s March? ....but I digress.

The majority of teachers may not be the best choice to arm themselves. Look what a Clusterguck they have done to our education system. If they can mess up that badly educating our youth, just think how many ways they can mess up usung an inanimate object.

Short article.
https://patriotpost.us/articles/54943-teachers-reject-real-world-solutions-favor-the-impractical

Todd Juvinall

I was just reminded of the terrorist attacks using vehicles. Not one firearm used but 100's dead. Were the kidlets p[ssed?

Gregory

Toes, I think I remember Pigglet complaining the school felt like a prison now.

ArchieBunker

Posted by: George Rebane | 25 March 2018 at 10:15 AM - ah yes, the old 2nd Amendment excuse for the right to own ever more powerful weaponry so's we can keep up an imaginary parity with what the gub'mint is packin' in case, you know, they get out of control and start trampling our other Constitutional rights.

The gub'mint gets to have .50 Cal. sniper sticks, so we get to have some too!

But wait! The gub'mint has to only pull the trigger once with their M-16s to unload 600+ rounds a minute at us yahoos, where's we are getting finger cramps trying to toss a hun'nert rounds back at them with our measly Ar-15s.

It ain't fair! Where's the par force in that?

Walt

Yup, The wife beater has taken one to the empty brain case one too many times. Mzzz. "jon" your wife?
Doesn't even know how an M16 works. The days of 600 rounds per trigger pull are SOOO long gone.

As for the .50,, every state in the Union.. Except this one.
4 thousand bucks and one could have been yours.
Now do you remember who signed our right away to own them?

Walt

Since you brought it up wife beater,, who "won" the standoff in Nevada? BLM or the armed citizens? You know,, Rancher Bundy and "friends".
You may care to read up on that.(like why the Government's case was thrown out of court.)

Walt

A woman could buy a tank?? In RUSSIA?????
https://www.warhistoryonline.com/world-war-ii/amazing-nazis-killed-her-husband-she-bought-drove-a-t34-then-went-on-a-rampage-m.html
Sounds like something my own dear wife would do.

One hell of a story non the less.

Bill Tozer

You could see this on coming a mile away. Oh Hans, they neutered you.

https://www.dangerous.com/42678/gun-hysteria-spreads-disney-removes-blasters-upcoming-star-wars-movie-posters/

My, my. After Spring Break, expect more protests at Parkland High. Looks like Piglet does not anyone to see his tampons.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/28609/watch-parkland-student-complains-clear-backbacks-ryan-saavedra?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro

scenes

re: BillT@11:07

Questions are a burden to others, like they say on "The Prisoner". Of course the Childs Crusade is just some DNC astroturf, but it makes for good TV.

Somehow, I see the Green Libertarians in this pose:

https://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/gettyimages-937386586-1280x720.jpg

re: AB@11:29

"The gub'mint gets to have .50 Cal. sniper sticks, so we get to have some too!"

Here, knock yerself out.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/901104495/Barrett-14029-M82-A1-Semi-Automatic-416-Barrett-29-10-1-Fixed-Flat-Dark-Earth-Stk-Fde-Blk-14029.htm

Not legal in CA I guess (15 years ago or so?). You can make that argument given the amount of vibrant diversity here. Products that require a certain amount of care should probably be left to the flyover states.

re: Gregory@

"Is this a hunting rifle? Does it look like a hunting rifle?"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M40_rifle

Of course not, it's the wrong color. I wonder what the unlettered would classify the FN PS90 as.

Bill Tozer

Scenes.

Thanks for jogging my memory. The rifle was mass produced for years and sometime in the later 50’s or by the mid-sixties, the rifle was converted to military purposes. In fact, several of the military conversions were taken straight from “hunting” gun designs.

All in all, I stand by my assertion that there will be no gun control at the end of the day. Sure, some states will tweak around the edges, but no cigar. Read FLA wants a three day waiting period. In CA, we have a 10 day waiting period, lol.

So far the only tangible change I see coming is the definition of fully auto, or machine gun, or however they define more than one projective fired per trigger pull. Guess that means bump stocks.....something that is easier to make (and less complicated) than making a nut cracker in the garage. Whatever floats their boats.

George Rebane

re ArchieB 1129am - It appears that Mr Bunker again demonstrates his knowledge of America's history by missing completely the obvious (to non-progressives) fact that as the local constabularies have militarized over the years, the citizens' ability to own and use their formerly capable firearms has been reduced (both legally and constructively) year after year. How can so much pass these people by without their even complaining to their lamestream outlets that they are made to look like ignoramuses when attempting to discuss issues in polite company? Par force, no matter how diminished, is useless if not accompanied by par comprehension.

scenes

re: BillT@1:09PM

"Guess that means bump stocks.....something that is easier to make (and less complicated) than making a nut cracker in the garage."

Honestly, I doubt that making 'bump stocks' illegal even requires a law, it probably falls under the NFA automatically. Obviously, someone could build an electrically run cam or manual crank to repeatedly hit a trigger, and that probably falls under some BATF regulation from the get-go. For all I know, a fat guy is naturally equipped to bump fire any gun due to the natural spring in the front. Much ado about nothing.

Next thing you know, someone will try to make spin on oil filters illegal given the ability to trivially make a suppressor. Hack saw blades, used to shorten barrels, will be next.

scenes

hah. I knew it. It appears that body weight violates firearms law.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKI9S5qT5IA

scenes

My favorite one I've read lately (it's not new) is that the Gabby Giffords Foundation/Corporation/whatever has decided that muzzle loaders are particularly evil since there's less regulation on them and they tend to have suppressors of some sort.

It's peculiar since her shooter was a crazy 23(?) year old (ie. over 21) with a 9mm handgun (ie. not a militarystyleassaultrifle) who was a paranoid schizophrenic (ie. crazy), described as left wing/quite liberal (ie. not a nazi), etc.

But, having said that, there's no money in going after crazy Green Libertarians. I admit that it's a stretch to get from there to muzzle loaders, but there you go.

rl crabb

George {March 25 Update} - Forecast for early Sunday evening: a little Stormy.

Walt

Right RL,, She's all tease these days. Just when you think the linen will drop,, there is a new layer to keep the goods hid. And you think that's going to change?

And Comey laid out Hillary's crimes for all to hear just to say "nothing to see here".

So stick another 20 in her G-string.... Enjoy the show.

Todd Juvinall

If you google her there are hundreds of hard core porn videos of her. She is a busy gal. Almost hard to believe she can speak as she had a lot of things in the way.

Scott Obermuller

Crabby at 3:58 - Hey Bob, did the networks feature Clinton's hot little thing when she surfaced? Why not? What about his black whores? What about Clinton's 'love child'? Did you ever mention that? Why is this important now? Is it because the networks are fair and unbiased?
How about King and Kennedy? How about Bobby and all the other lefty heroes?
From Washington through Roosevelt and Eisenhower they have been banging the hotties - just now you discover that powerful men like to screw good looking women?
Is this something you have tut-tuted all your life, Bobby? Provide proof or get lost.
The morality of the left is something to behold.
An entire generation of rock and rollers that cheered under-aged groupies is now horrified that a wealthy man has sex outside of his marriage. What did you expect?
I know that Paul Emery personally has every musical act he promotes sign an affidavit that every member of the band has never had sex outside of marriage. Right, Paul?
Yeah, I know - THAT'S DIFFERENT!

George Rebane

Administrivia - the 25mar18 sandbox is open for your Stormy contributions; this Scattershots is not.

rl crabb

Gee Scotty, where's your sense of humor?

Scott Obermuller

Yes - we remember the nation's 'sense of humor' when Clinton was caught diddling half the female population of Little Rock. Pretty Lame, Bobby - why can't you just admit the double standard? With Clinton it was his 'personal life' but with a Republican it's 'grounds of impeachment'.
Gee Crabby - where's YOUR sense of humor?
Still going to claim your 'middle of the road' BS?
Why is it lefties are so cowardly?

Scott Obermuller

Sorry George, but since Crabby snuck one in, I had to respond.

rl crabb

Guess you weren't looking when I did numerous cartoons on the Clinton affairs, or when I recently pointed out on Facebook the hypocrisy of John Edwards and NBC's omission of Lisa Meyers' interview with Juanita Broderick before the impeachment, or that I quit the Democratic party in 2000. You don't know squat, Scott.

George Rebane

Back to the topics. I look forward to one of Bob's cartoons on meteorologists - the profession in which you can significantly screw up all your life and not have to say I'm sorry, because people just expect it.

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