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06 April 2018

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Scott Obermuller

Oh c'mon, George - you know perfectly well the rich don't pay any taxes!
Any lefty will confirm that.
At least not their 'fair share' - whatever that is.

Walt

But Lefties SAID!!!!!
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/05/aluminum-prices-fall-despite-new-tariffs/

The hate you have for Trump,, has got you by your own short and curlys.

Bill Tozer

Taxes: The headline says it all. A sure fire path to victory.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2018/04/05/pelosi-you-bet-democrats-are-going-inflict-massive-middle-class-tax-increases-if-we-win-n2467855

jon smith

Nothing new. Who would you suggest pay these taxes?

The one and only hope that I had when our current political class came to office was some sort of grip on spending. When I hear the Pubbers on this page dismiss a 30 billion dollar highly questionable expense as a pittance, and blithely add 1.3 trillion to our budget (is debt ceiling a "thing" any longer in this Republican congress??) I understand that my hopes were for naught.

If the people with money don't pay the taxes, who will?

Bill Tozer

——-Attention whore time. Reposted from the closing minutes of the last Sandbox for Scene’s consideration:

“Just when I thought I have seen it all..............

Will the “biological advantage” of straight people to reproduce be considered a violation of the equality principle?

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-opinion-the-nuclear-family-threat-1.5459170.

jon smith

Mr Eeeezy Beessee and Mr. Juvinall-

Quick, put a call into the feds and update them with your spin on the market as Trump tweets away about sharing your pain at watching retirements get disemboweled by his boorish rhetoric.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-05/stock-rally-to-extend-in-asia-dollar-strengthens-markets-wrap

Walt

DAMN! "jon" doesn't even understand the tax issues.
Did "jon" forgo his/her tax cut? Did you pay the old rate?
Did you send in more than you needed to because the gov. needs it?
No need to answer,, we already know it.(your not big on answering any questions as it is.)

George Rebane

Our leftwing friends have made it very clear since the new fed budget was signed that had the Dems been in power, they would have been much more parsimonious, and added a lot less than the Repub's $1.3T to the national debt over the next ten years. As support for that contention, I'm sure they'll offer the thrift they practiced during the Obama years.

Walt

Who needs ISIS vids?
Now they cut off heads here.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/06/mother-beheads-7-year-old-son/

jon smith

Walt- Happy to answer. I didn't personally see any tax cut and my payroll seems to be pretty evenly divided between those who pay more, less, or equal to taxes paid in years past. My guess is that you don't have any employees, don't see real payrolls, and are likely on the government dole and might get to pocket a few extra pennies each month.

And George, of course . . . "B b b b but, what about Hillary, Obama, Dems (fill in the blank)" No need to answer any questions when the best you can do is offer "what if, what about, don't you remember???") Finger pointer at large.

Walt

HAY!!! "JON"!!! We know how you LOVE regulations!
Dance with joy naked in the rain! (Paul might join ya')
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/06/dc-government-joins-scott-pruitt-pile-on-issues-citation-to-landlord.html
"The city “issued a Notice of Infraction to the [landlord] for engaging in unlicensed rental housing activity,” ABC News reported, citing a press release by the agency."
Maybe a felony charge is in order?

I would like to send the authorities by your place to see what you can be charged with. If your on the up and up, you should have little reason to deny the entry.... What'ya say?

Walt

When I work I pay. Can't dance and it's too wet to plow.
Nope, don't "own" the business.(yet that business would be tits up without my help)
And Nooooo. I have never taken one dime in gov. support.. EVER.
Unemployment checks in the Winter don't count, since I paid into that. And even those were a LONG time ago.

Really don't see you as a business owner. But stranger things have happened.. (dope grower?)

Todd Juvinall

jonSmith/linda wants us o believe he is a businessman/emp[loyer? I laughed my ass off at his last post. He has no employees and like most of what he writes he makes it up just like all liberals.The American unemployment rates are the lowest in many years and lower for all. But that is not what liberals like. They want dependant people on the government. So I get it why jon is mad. Too many indies out there now.

jon smith

To prove I use your links Walt:

"Pruitt told Fox News when asked, "Is draining the swamp, renting an apartment from the wife of a Washington lobbyist?” that it was not “remotely fair to ask that question.”"

Not fair, not fair, not fair, don't ask that question. I don't like it.

Spoken like a true follower.

Walt

LOL "jonnie"... The big bitch now is his living accommodations?
Yes, desperation has REALLY set in.
Take his landlord out and shoot'm in the street!

Now... How bout those "common sense" gun law questions you conveniently dodged? You really don't have any.... Do ya'?
Not without scrapping half the Constitution in the process.
But since Lefties have no real respect for the Constitution,,

Todd Juvinall

Walt, jon/linda is a scofflaw teacher of our little ones. No wonder the education system is screwed up so bad. He and Linda Campbell share too many things.

jon smith

Walter-
1-background check with zero tolerance for felons, non-citizens, violent offenders, mentally ill, or hard drug users.
2-registration.
3-limited capacity magazine (no clip) (pick a number, 10-12 rounds seems adequate for any shooting I've ever done)
4-put in place a system to perform background investigations initiated by people worried about the mental capacity of a gun owner.
5-mandatory prison time and life long forfeiture of gun ownership, for anyone found illegally possessing a gun or illegal components.

Once again, I've given you my common sense ideas. You, of course, have never offered any and scenes is on record as saying he won't compromise anything. So, once again Mr. Branson, ball in your court and I expect nothing more than the echo of a bouncing ball or the squeal of, "but what about Obama??"

scenes

3-limited capacity magazine (no clip) (pick a number, 10-12 rounds seems adequate for any shooting I've ever done)

Let's start here. More details please.

You are saying I can't have a 10 round magazine on a bolt or pump action rifle?

jon smith

I don't see that written or implied.

Walt

1- No problem from me.
2 Why? It serves no useful propose. Bad guys won't comply... ever.
3 Another, Why? what's the point? So it's only makes sense to you.
You buying everyone's ammo? I would have my AR belt fed if I could make it work. Again.. Will the criminal element obey that law? (NO)
4 How do you get around the Dr./patient privacy laws? And just who make the determination of mental capacity?(I give you the You Tube shooter) And who is going to give YOU(or me for that matter) someone's private info? ( Invasion of one's privacy at a minimum.)
5 Good bloody luck. Felons are found with guns they are already forbidden to own, every damned day.
I give you Jerry Brown for decriminalizing gun crime.


I propose mandatory gun ownership.(for the law abiding citizen)
CCW's for all. ( watch how fast crime falls away.)
More weapons in the hands of the law abiding citizen tends to lead to less crime.( I won't bother you with the facts on that.)

Any criminal who is not supposed to have a gun goes away for a VARY long time. ( bleeding heart Lefties hate that idea...Ask Brown)

So how is "your plan" working in Chicago? Any bets on the body count by Mon.?

Walt

Well Scenes,, ol' "jon" started the defection right out of the wrapper.
"jon" has never seen an M14 apparently. (and not subject to Ca. evil weapons ban) I can have it "fixed" and still load it.
And the HORROR!! It was used in a war by the military!

Todd Juvinall

JonSmith is not a registered voter here so who cares what he says?

Gregory

js 219pm

Why 10 rounds? Is it a number pulled out of a hat? If this is a negotiation, how about 20?

The Browning Hi-Power pistol, the last handgun design of John Browning, had from the first a 13 round magazine standard, the first of the 'wonder nines', about equivalent to having two 38 caliber revolvers in shots and rate of fire. Many millions were sold. Glocks were designed to hold 17 rounds. The fixed magazine of the first production semiautomatic, the "Broomhandle" Mauser C96, was 10 but many were made to hold 20 rounds in their fixed (not removable) magazine.

The Mauser, first produced 122 years ago and lauded by Winston Churchill, is immortalized in Star Wars as Han Solo's blaster, which has had the unfortunate effect of collectible C96s in original condition being sold to movie fans who then had them carved up and ugly bits added to look like the movie props.

Walt

As usual, when "jon's" argument won't hold water, GONE.. Like a prom dress. Paul has taught them well. Won't be back till the subject changes.

jon smith

Gregory-
"Is it a number pulled out of a hat?"

Yes.

Scenes

just to dig in a little bit.

"I don't see that written or implied."

So it should be illegal to have an 11 round magazine for a bolt action rifle? What purpose does that serve?

Keep in mind that magazine restrictions really don't change the rate of fire all that much if you are mayhem oriented and it messes with practically any available magazine fed firearm (I assume you mean removable magazines...a subquestion is whether that restriction applies to fixed magazines).

I'm not sure they even make 10 round magazines for most 9mm handguns or .308 semiauto rifles. The former because there's no advantage and the latter because they are not well supported.

My guess is that the fascination with the number of rounds in a bent sheet metal enclosure is that it's one of the few things that a number can be applied to.

jon smith

10 is a number. I think it is more acceptable than a one round single shot to the pro gun crowd and more acceptable than a belt fed feature or 60 round clips to the anti gun crowd. I tossed out a number I would personally find reasonable for any target application, and more than legal in many hunting applications. Toss out a number that both sides might agree upon.

Walt

"reasonable",, Says the one two cats short of ..... nuts
Let me know how you get Joe tweeker, who refuses to turn in his illegal 100 round beta mags. The guy who is out to take what you have. No "jon", you don't read about those in the police blotter.
No, the local rag won't report that "bad news" either. Gotta keep the gen. public in the dark about what really goes on.
Contrary to usual opinion, "if it's not in the paper, it didn't happen".

Walt

"jon"..When you start paying my ammo bill, then you can tell me just what is "reasonable" Leftists lost any meaning of "reason" a LONG time ago.

Walt

Three dope plants for anyone is "reasonable" to me.
Just like the dopers. 10 was the limit... They just added a "0" to that. What's an extra 90 plants? No one will know the diff. "cops can't count".

Scenes

"Toss out a number that both sides might agree upon."

As a practical matter, probably 20 (not sure). I'm not familiar with all the handgun sizes.Not that it makes any difference in lethality really. It's definitely more of a nuisance at a range to use small sizes. Reliability suffers they bigger they get in any case...you can argue that you go to a minimum of 40 rounds.

The fewer people you make destroy their stuff, the more that could be nudged over. Not everybody is a 2nd amendment champion so some might be convinced...although at this point I'm not sure. After a year of Trumphate, Team Red is not much for giving in.

The Five-seveN people would be aggrieved, but that's a small group. As an aside, it's worth considering that those are probably optimal for mayhem (used at Ft. Hood). Dunno what the fixation on AR15 pattern rifles is all about.

George Rebane

For those unable to understand the topic of the 'Gun Violence town hall ...', it's all about debating guns and gun ownership. The sandbox is for all other topics not covered in my topical commentaries. Give it a try.

Scott Obermuller

Yes 10 rounds is an acceptable number. That's also the opinion of the Florida school shooter. I wonder if jonnie boy realizes his fabulous new regs wouldn't have stopped any of the mass shootings?
Ooops.
Remember - folks who set out to murder people don't seem to give much care for jonnie boy or his magic regulations.
Nice try, jonnie boy - back to the drawing board.
And jonnie - good luck with the registration thingie. The lefties at Kos and Mother Jones have already gone on record as saying that registration is simply the first step in all out confiscation. History has already born that out. Facts are stubborn things, jonnie boy.
If you want to stop gun violence, start with the criminals, not the law abiding citizens.

jon smith

You win Scott, I guess 10 rounds isn't restrictive enough for you - lets try 3 rounds. . . it worked on us duck hunters. To bust your bubble, the Florida shooter had a bag full of pre loaded clips. You conveniently "forgot" that part of my suggestion. If he had to thumb load between shootings it might have slowed things down just a teensy weensy bit and perhaps a few more kids would be walking around today to protest. But we wouldn't want that now, would we?

Scott Obermuller

"Dunno what the fixation on AR15 pattern rifles is all about."
Because they're probably the most common rifle sold in the US these days.
Banning them would piss off the NRA and the largest number of conservatives.
It would do little or nothing to alter the fire arm murder rate but who cares about that?
This is about sticking it to the man. Get it, Daddy O?

Scenes

*****MOVING GUNS TO OTHER THREAD AS DIRECTED...******

Scott Obermuller

from the ever present presence of mindlessness - jonnie boy smith - "You conveniently "forgot" that part of my suggestion."
No jonnie boy - you can't read. Murderers tend to not care about your rules.
The AR15 type of rifle uses a system of detachable magazines. 'Clips' are used with rifles such as the SKS. I realize some folks call the detachable mags 'clips' but then that confuses the issue because it doesn't differentiate between a method of holding the ammo in a clip until the ammo is inserted into the fixed magazine vs a separate detachable magazine.
At any rate, my point stands that if you want to stop criminals, go after the criminals and leave the law abiding citizens alone.
It seems your biggest beef is with Moonbeam Brown. Go yell at him.

Scott Obermuller

Uh, oh - guilty as charged - should have moved the last 2 comments.

Don Bessee

They were serious about stop and detain in expedited removal facilities at the boarder. They are doing so much so fast the left has too many things to rant over.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-trump-memo/trump-signs-memo-ending-catch-and-release-immigration-policy-idUSKCN1HD31Q

Did you hear how much the eco terrorists cost us to protect the EPA swamp drainer? Worth every penny!
;-)

Bill Tozer

Wow. Big Opps. 2012 study reverses findings. Liberals are indeed kind of crazy.
https://patriotpost.us/articles/55181-correction-turns-out-liberals-are-crazy

Gregory

"According to campaign finance reports, JoAnn and George “extreme political rightwing blogger” Rebane donated a hefty $1,000 to Dan Miller’s Supervisor campaign in District 3 — but don’t even live in that district."- pelline


Congratulations, George.... the Former Union Editor has re-evaluated your politics and you are now an "extreme political rightwing blogger". "Hard right" just doesn't do you justice now in Cartman's world.

It might be fun to actually map where Ms. Hodge's donations are coming from. What percentage from inside the district, what percentage outside the district but still inside Nevada County and what percentage is coming from outside the county.

Scenes

"extreme political rightwing blogger"

lol. It lacks alliteration, but I like it.

Honestly, I think that George is rather middle o' the road in the rightosphere, but I doubt that Spanky has run into "extreme political rightwing bloggers" before.

I'd go check out the post, but it just makes me tired. At least talking to yourself online doesn't have the social burden that hearing voices in public might cause.

Hopefully he can work a 'Hitler' or two into his missives.

You know, I should actually pay attention to Nevada County politics. It just occurred to me that 'Heidi Hall' and 'Hilary Hodge' are different people.

Bill Tozer

Scenes. Heidi Hall is a county supervisor. When she introduced herself to the public via The Union, her pics showed her standing in an all female group with her mentor and supporter Nancy Peloski. Nancy groomed her gals. A big selling point. Her resume is chock full of being a valued State employee of various Eco departments. All green and all blue.

Hilary Hodge is running for County Supervisor. She used to have a column in The Union in which she took great pains to let everyone know she is a lesbian. Oh wow. After about 20 times, I think she got her point across. Ok, you are a lesbian, as if that makes any matter. Got it. Hilary is a lesbo. Now, what other qualifications does she have besides being a delagate to the CA Dem Convention? Oh yeah. If you do not park your car in a parking spot exactly parallel to the lines, she will roll her eyes and show you exactly how a car should be parked. That’s kinda quirky, IMHO.

And she (Hilary with one L) worries about her Latinx niece since Donald Trump became President and wonders which of her neighbors and community members voted for Donald Trump. How could they!! Is it the clerk at the market? Is it that man over there? Who are they, which closet racists are lurking behind their smiles and greetings to her? Her safe place of Nevada County will never feel safe again. Could it be her mailman that voted for Trump? Someone who lives on her Mother’s Street?

Hey, I have been to Hollywood, I have been to Redwood. I have been in the seediest gay bars from coast to coast (cheaper drinks) and in the highest of high high class gay establishments. No problem, ever. But, it was not til Hilary started writing columns that I have ever had to be reminded over and over and over again by any gay friend or acquaintance that they are gay....until Hilary H found it necessary to tell the reader she is gay. Got it. Got it ten times ago.
Oh yeah, Hilary said Hillary Clinton was the most qualified candidate ever ever ever to run for President in our nation’s history. The reason HRC lost is Because a Woman is not allowed to break the glass ceiling....alas, oh what to tell our litte girls now. Nothing to do with the fact people (Dems, R’s, Indies) do not like My Gal HRC and to this very hour people still do not like My Gal. Heck, even Bubba still does not like her. Maybe it’s because she has a vagina. Bet that’s it.

George Rebane

Well, we again made the pages of The Union today thanks to our favorite 'center roader', Mr Bob Crabb. I have updated 'Progressives Pander Pubertistas' to pay grateful homage to Mr Crabb.
http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2018/03/progressives-pander-pubertistas.html

George Boardman

Dr. R, do you really think that's you in Crabb's cartoon? You look too skinny. Have you lost weight since the one time we met?

However, I wouldn't be surprised if that's Walt standing to your right.

Don Bessee

Did someone put sand in you Metamucil today Baordman?

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People absolutely HAVE to stop coddling and enabling their children. It's a problem that's going to spread through our society like wildfire. It's not fair to society, and more importantly, is not fair to the children to teach them this is okay. It will not serve them towards a successful and happy life."

https://www.popsugar.com/moms/Teacher-Goes-Rant-About-Parents-Coddling-Kids-44728663

;-)

George Rebane

GeorgeB 127pm - Truth be told Mr Boardman, I look a lot skinnier than I am (an optical delusion that comforts tall people?), and I think Bob was being kind. ;-)

Walt

The head Twitt speaks.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/07/twitter-jack-dorsey-second-civil-war-trump/
"California, despite its mass wealth inequality, growing lack of social cohesion, poverty, and soaring housing costs “provides a model for America as a whole,”

No wonder Proggys what the people disarmed.

George Boardman

Dr. R, I'm not implying you're fat. You're a big guy who can carry a lot of weight.

George Rebane

GeorgeB 422pm - Thank you for those kind words Mr Boardman; I am on my way to invite Jo Ann to also admire them as she has been on my case as of late.

jon smith

Another right wing white supremest who "found Jesus" blows self up while building terrorist Mother of Satan device.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5589665/Wisconsin-man-blew-apartment-white-supremacist-literature.html

Walt

No Mzzzzzzzzz. "jon" a Lefty. KKK,(white supremacist) National Socialist.
Your side own's them. ALT right is something you Proggys dreamed up
to try and save face.
Now don't forget you also have the Black Panthers. Yet they get a pass from your side. Ask Eric Holder bout that. "not going to prosecute my people"
MS13 is loved by the Left. The more illegals they smuggle in the better.

Don Bessee

In spite of the video evidence the NY AG has opened an 'investigation'.

https://nypost.com/2018/04/07/neighbors-of-unhinged-man-killed-by-nypd-said-cops-did-the-right-thing/

;-)

Scenes

your tax dollars at work

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2018/04/05/millennials-flat-earth-survey/

Bill Tozer

Come to think about it, I can’t even think of an Alt Right website. Not one. Maybe The Storm Trooper that Punchy used to read, reference, copy, and paste here, but I think that is gone. If anyone knows of a Far Right Extremist Alt-Right website, let me know.

The terminally ignorant throw these terms around and have not a clue what they mean. It’s their M.O. Guess the closest thing we have is some Black Nationalist websites or Nation of Islam sites, I have once exchanged barbs with one Alt-Right guy on-line once, but that was a one off. He was ranting against Jews, just like the leaders of the Women’s March do.

Aha! I found the Alt-Right extremists! Holy Sacred Cow, they are indeed the Liberals worse nightmare.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1291519710982063/?type=3&theater


jon smith

Mr. Scenes- Interesting to note that those numbers coincide with those who claim climate change is a hoax. The coincidence drove me to do a quick search that reveals flat earthers and climate change denialists are in the same camp . . . . using the same "proof!!" I can only wonder how many received their "education" in Sunday school or homeschooled by women in ankle length gingham skirts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAmrT0O62hU

Bill Tozer

Not about guns per se, but about fairness. 4 against one (including the getaway driver) is not fair. It’s not fair!

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/04/02/grandfather-of-oklahoma-teen-killed-by-homeowner-in-burglary-says-ar15-made-for-unfair-fight

Didn’t know black hooded home invaders with knives and brass knuckles played by any rules.

Scott Obermuller

Bill - remember that the gun grabbers are always saying the AR type rifles are useless for home defence. Just ask the intruders.
Now for other fun - Facebook cracks down on uppity black gals -
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/facebook-penalizes-pro-trump-diamond-silk-deems-duo-unsafe-to-the-community/
You go Zucky - put them girls into the back of the bus where they belong!
Outrage from the NAACP?
We're waiting.

Bill Tozer

What people believe. Variety is the spice of life.

October, 2017
https://blogs.chapman.edu/wilkinson/2017/10/11/paranormal-america-2017

Hmm. This one is ‘grabbed’ my attention because it came out less than 2 months before the 2016 Election.

http://www.aei.org/publication/more-people-believe-in-bigfoot-than-believe-hillary-clinton/

Walt

"jon" and her AGW... Really.... Someone claimed to have cracked the code for cold fusion. Just like AGW crap.. No one can repeat it.
Funny thing about those AGW claims. They always get busted. They can only make it work when they fuc* with uh,,, "adjust"..the numbers.

Thanks for the ammo "jon". (which name is as fake as AGW)

Scott Obermuller

"...a quick search that reveals flat earthers and climate change denialists are in the same camp."
Don't tell me where that 'quick search' was located, jonnie boy. Probably the same place you get most of your ideas from. LOL!

Walt

Comey is braiding his own rope. I say let'm swing!

Don Bessee

A little perspective on the 'trade war' hysteria -

It's not surprising that China's proposed tariffs carry more bark than bite for Boeing. In the very long run, China could potentially reduce its reliance on Boeing aircraft. But for now, there are only two major aircraft manufacturers, and Airbus' popular A320/A320neo family of planes has a backlog of more than 6,000 unfilled orders. That's equivalent to nine years of output, even at the stepped-up production rates currently planned.
In theory, Airbus would love to gain market share in China at Boeing's expense. However, the A320neo family is completely sold out until around 2022. Even beyond then, Airbus would probably be unable to meet all of China's aircraft demand without shortchanging its own loyal customers elsewhere in the world.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/china-apos-tariffs-boeing-aircraft-112000376.html

;-)

Don Bessee

This going to give the green(s) (libertarians) heartburn!

Saudi Arabia is increasing chemical production with demand for motor fuels expected to slow amid tightening fuel efficiency standards and the rise of electric vehicles. Fracking and horizontal drilling in shale formations have unleashed torrents of cheap U.S. natural gas that made the country among the most profitable places to produce chemicals, beating the Middle East in attracting projects.
Plastics Plants
DowDuPont Inc., Exxon Mobil Corp., and Chevron Phillips Chemical Co. are putting the finishing touches on multibillion-dollar factories along the Texas Gulf Coast, part of $188 billion in proposed and recently completed project, according to the American Chemistry Council.
Almost 20 factories are being built or expanded to convert gas liquids such as ethane and propane into ethylene, the most used petrochemical and the main ingredient in polyethylene plastic.
Most of the investment is coming from abroad. South Africa’s Sasol Ltd. is spending $11 billion on a chemical complex outside Lake Charles, Louisiana. France’s Total SA, South Korea’s Lotte Chemical Corp. and Taiwan’s Formosa Plastics Corp. also are investing in U.S. factories.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-07/saudi-chemical-maker-eyeing-houston-for-americas-headquarters

;-)

Don Bessee

For the hat trick -

Johnson then added that Trump has been a boon for the black community.
“You have to take encouragement from what’s happening in the labor force and the job market,” Johnson told Squawk Box. “When you look at African-American unemployment, … you’ve never had African-American unemployment this low and the spread between African-Americans and whites narrowing.”
The television pioneer added that Trump’s policies have brought back into the job market people who have been out for a long time, “some of it based on discrimination, some of it based on changes in education, access and technology changes.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/04/06/black-entertainment-television-founder-says-trump-best-thing-happen-african-american-jobs/

;-)

Walt

OK Trump may have overplayed China and meat exports.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/brazil-debates-fate-of-millions-of-idled-donkeys-1523098801
China may trade pigs for Democrat mascots.
Leftys.. What's your rescue plan? How can you allow China to eat your own?

Bill Tozer

Don, you might like this. Unheard of, I have never heard such a thing in all my life. A federal bureaucracy that wants its powers checked? Unbelievable. Drain the Swamp.

“The director unilaterally enforces 19 federal consumer protection statutes, covering everything from home finance to student loans to credit cards to banking practices. The director alone decides what rules to issue; how to enforce, when to enforce, and against whom to enforce the law; and what sanctions and penalties to impose on violators of the law.”

It’s a bold move, and it reminds politicians that federal bureaucracies must be held accountable. Mulvaney suggested that “structuring the bureau the way it has, Congress established an agency primed to ignore due process and abandon the rule of law in favor of bureaucratic fiat and administrative absolutism.”

https://patriotpost.us/articles/55196-cfpb-chief-wants-to-rein-in-his-own-bureaucracy


Bill Tozer

Mr. Scott @ 6:18 pm

Yep, Diamonds and Silk have been warning about being lopped off of Youtube for quiet some time now. Sad to see them get choked off. At least they did not go out and shoot up the YouTube outdoor luncheon court like that female Iranian veghead did this week. That’s not who we are. Always a silver lining.

Come to think about it, the media gave both the news of Diamonds & Silk and the PETA Youtube Shooter story minimal coverage. Odd. Nothing to see here or they would have told us.

On a related topic, if you click on a Fox News link from FB, you get the pop up about the trustworthless of Fox cannot be verified, lol. Must be as harmful to one’s mind as Obama and Hillary warned us about. Mercy.

L

Toez, thinking Hillary might be lesbo too, unless, perhaps, Huma is just a fatty cyst.

L

Marillyn Lock-Heed

,,,read it and weep boys!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/06/massachusetts-ban-on-assault-weapons-doesnt-violate-2nd-amendment-judge-rules.html

scenes

re: Marillyn Lock-Heed@7:37AM

I posted that several days ago, but thanks for the heads-up.

Super peculiar reasoning:
'That notion was ruled out, however, as the judge pointed out that the design of semi-automatic AR-15's is based on guns "that were first manufactured for military purposes" and that the AR-15 is "common and well-known in the military."'

No matter what side you are in this thing, the tortuous logic required here just shows that the real point is the confiscation of everything over time.

One super clever trick used in Mass. (and California) is to have lists of 'approved' weapons. Everything else is in a kind of legal limbo and given the tendency for DAs to overcharge in an offense, no one wants to take the chance. Over time, you reduce the list. Wash, rinse, repeat. I admire the tactic. Now if we can just get the anti-hate speech laws to really crank up, we can live in a utopia.

Here's a small version of the Massachusetts list:

http://www.mass.gov/ago/public-safety/guns-that-are-not-assault-weapons.html

Gotta love it. The carve-out for Mini-14 and M1A exists (as usual). Ruger and Springfield have to appreciate this. In general, it just shows the intellectual sparseness of gun control laws.

I was just thinking about unintended consequences with these sorts of approaches A few:

. I can imagine that whole world of straight pull and pump action AR-15s really taking off. They exist already, but there's plenty more room in the ecosystem.
. More interest in shooting for distance...imagine the mayhem that's built into a Ruger Precision Rifle.
. Mass production of black guns that aren't based on a common military design. There are plenty out there. Maybe invent something new.
. More Massachussetts legal Mini-14s that look just like the scarier AR-15 variants.
. More interest in AK47 sporters (like the Saiga) and perhaps a nice looking AR-15 sporter. Esthetes will rejoice. (for Jon: think Mini-14 with AK guts)
. Magazine restrictions resulting in upgrade of size. 7.62 rifles get a new lease on life.
. Magazine restrictions resulting in shrinking of handguns. 10 round maximums lead you to single stack and/or shorter magazine 9mm handguns. Basically pushing the 9mm crowd into concealable weapons.
. Big rimfires come back. In a lot of Green Libertarian states, rimfires are treated differently. Well, they don't have to be .22s

scenes

A clarion call from the Green Libertarians. It's all or nothing.

https://medium.com/s/state-of-the-future/the-great-lesson-of-california-in-americas-new-civil-war-e52e2861f30

Hopefully California's single-party model can be extended to the deplorables if they know what's good them.

Gregory

The discussion "lock" missed started here

http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2018/04/gun-violence-town-hall-in-nevada-city-george-rebane-this-is-the-transcript-of-my-regular-kvmr-commentary-broadcast-on-4-ap.html?cid=6a00e54f86f2ad883301bb0a01bd9e970d#comment-6a00e54f86f2ad883301bb0a01bd9e970d

There was no weeping... Judge Young has been on the bottom rung of the federal judiciary for decades and ; this ruling is just one on the way to a revisiting by SCOTUS to sort out conflicting rulings.

Walt

Reading the judges ruling. it seems my AR10 would be legal. It's not considered a weapon of war by definition. The AR15 was the result of downsizing the AR10.(original design)

I do believe I will get the conversion kit for my weapon just to get around the mandated assault weapon registration. I can then remove the stupid bullet button, and put the real one back in.
And what would really change the lethal effect? Not a damned thing.

That should make blockhead's day.

Bill Tozer

Rosenstein in the news.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/04/07/gop-rep-meadows-rosenstein-doesnt-turn-docs-will-move-impeach/

https://www.lifezette.com/polizette/how-37-million-from-the-clinton-foundation-disappeared-in-baltimore/

Bill Tozer

More impeachment

Failing to “maintain a welcoming environment for any individual regardless of opinion or background....”

That’s sounds like the Lefties’ immigration policy. Be more welcoming, regardless.

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10738

Marillyn Lock-Heed

,,,hey,,,walt made the funny pages,,,what a hoot!!!

Walt

As usual "clueless",, your real late. And that's probably your redheaded step child I'm slamming. Did you remember to put the bag of weed in his sack lunch?

scenes

re: Walt@10:37AM

It could be that Marillyn Lock-Heed has a three day delay on their internet feed. Crazier things have happened.

re: BillT@9:50AM

Good articles. In truth, nobody cares. The Progressive world is inherently corrupt so the facts of a matter are ignored.

Given the dominance of Green Libertarians in modern culture, I wonder sometimes how best to set up an Albertian Order of Leibowitz so that the Western world can be resurrected at some future date. It's a problem well worth considering.

Walt

Scenes,, Or he finally hacked the guy next door's wifi again.

OK pro dopers,, ya' managed to get pot legal,, here is your next mission.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/690898/lsd-acid-microdosing-microdose-drugs-dark-web

Wake, bake, go to work.. "wowwwwww... look at those funky colors......"

Paul Emery

If nyone wonders what the real intent of the NRA is they need only to refer to NRA board member Ted Nugent who advocates random shooting of
liberals, Rino's, Democrats and Holloywood stars. Amazint that the NRA keeps him on their Board of directors after he advocates this:

“Don’t ask why. Just know that evil, dishonesty, and scam artists have always been around and that right now they’re liberal, they’re Democrat, they’re RINOs, they’re Hollywood, they’re fake news, they’re media, they’re academia, and they’re half of our government, at least,” Nugent said according to conservative media watchdog Media Matters.

Nugent continued: “So come to that realization. There are rabid coyotes running around. You don’t wait till you see one to go get your gun. Keep your gun handy, and every time you see one, you shoot one.”

Paul Emery

link

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/nra-board-member-ted-nugent-democrats-shot-like-coyotes/

Walt

Camilla Harris Paul, Better read up on what she has said.(killing Trump)
Now which Lib was it that said "rawstory" was fake news?
And we see who "goes there".

Walt

BTW Paul,, your head Twitt guy is advocating civil war.
One party rule.(Progressives of coarse) And you complain about Ted?
Your Proggy side has said plenty worse.

George Rebane

PaulE 359pm - Another example of your interesting logic in these pages. If you want to know the real intent of an organization, select the behavior of an outlying member and infer that to the whole organization. Does anyone ever wonder how people who think like that presume to handle their daily round?

Paul Emery

George

A Board Member of a non profit is the governing body of that organization. They set policy and elect the chairman and hire the Executive Director. It's unbelievable that they would allow Ted Nugent to continue to be part of the governing structure when he advocates shooting people like animals. Incredible to me me that you support this.

Ted says "every time you see one, you shoot one.”

Walt's kinda guy. He advocated someone shooting Hillary on this blog a few months back.

Walt

And Paul says he don't smoke dope.
You also said I hate Greeks. Care to show me that?
I said I never met one that was truthful. Big diff Paul.(thanks for proving that point)
How many have said the same about Trump Paul?,, PLENTY!!
No outrage from you there.
So did I? Care to remind me? OR is it something you pulled out of your Depends? Something along the lines of "I wouldn't loose any sleep if she was"? Not much of an "advocation".

George Rebane

PaulE 525pm - It sure looks like you're doubling down on your impeccable logic here. How again did you deduce that I "support this"?

Paul Emery

You defended the IRA by marginalizing the meaning of a Board member calling for the random shooting of Libs or whatever. A Board Member is not an "outlying member" George. You knoew that.

Bill Tozer

Geoge defended the Irish Republican Army? They liked to blow things up. Ok, guess now we support the IRA. Whatever you say, I just roll with the punchies.

Don Bessee

Lordy, lordy, lord! What is wrong with the po' ol' fakenewsman @ 632? I didn't knoew that we were talking about the irish republican army. ;-)

Walt

Doc be Irish allofa' sudden...?
The "I" is nowhere near the "N" on the keyboard. Not even on the Greek version.

Gregory

Geezuss H. Kayrisst, Paul. I followed your clickbait and Nugent was obviously speaking metaphorically.

He was not literally calling for Democrats to be shot, and, unlike Democrats, Republicans have not shot Democratic congresscritters because they hated them so very much.

Walt

But Paul!! "MAD" Maxine Waters said she "was going to take Trump out!" We all know the meaning of that street slang.(she was talking to her constituents) SHE has yet to be removed from office, NO ethics violation, and not a peep from her peers.(Other proggys)

Hummm It seems fair game by anyone who's anti Trump, or anti Right to talk about his getting offed.
Your a news dude(so they say), how bout all the attacks of Trump supporters? City leaders yelling at kids who happen to wear Trump T-shirts. Hear about that?(you should have by now)

So save your fake outrage.

Bill Tozer

Dr. Rebane recently commented somewhere about Crabb’s cartoon making the good Doc look fatter (camera doesn’t lie) said his lovely bride is on his case. No problem, Doc, here to help. Got your back.

https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913.80726.51560645913/10155550292310914/?type=3&theater

Walt

Again it show up.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/04/08/has-california-backlash-against-liberal-craziness-finally-begun.html
Yup,, "Make America like Ca." says the Progressives.
" California has always been the tip of the spear. Often the genesis of art, influence, ideas, style and entertainment, we also take the lead in ways that are less admirable with high state tax, high gas tax, high costs of living and housing, an out of control homeless problem in our urban areas, declining test scores in schools, increasingly inaccessible and cost-prohibitive health care, and many of our major cities often appear on lists of the least-livable cities in the U.S. "
And the "jon" marginalized the chance of a Repub getting elected Gov.
Ummm,, he's in a close 2ND at the moment.

George Rebane

PaulE 632pm - Paul, pursuing this nonsense is another one of your futile gotcha attempts to piss up a rope, please give it up.

Walt

Stay tuned, ladies and gents, for another entertaining episode of "Paul screws the pooch".

Bill Tozer

Ted
Reminds me of the primaries when Lefties were trying to charge the stage at Trump rallies and take his microphone.
Diamonds and Silk told Donald J. Trump don’t let nobody take your microphone and you beat them like the rabid dogs they are. You’ beat them and beat them hard, Donald J. Trump. That’s your microphone and you paid for it, not nobody else. That’s right.

Yep, I suppose there are some pitiful souls out there that would take that literally. Sad.

You rock, our one and our only The Motor City Madman, The Whackmaster, Terrible Ted, The Detroit Madman, Uncle Ted........The Nuge. Keep up the great work, wink wink.

Paul Emery

So George then for now I assume it's ok for the NRA to preach random shooting of those who oppose them. that concept has no opposition from RR hardcores.

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