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18 June 2018

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Todd Juvinall

Which part of the Bible are you thinking makes your point? The Old Testament where the tribes murdered and committed genocide or the New Testament where Christians are told to obey the Caeser's laws?

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 19 June 2018 at 09:55 AM

Punch you do realize that Sessions argument to follow the law is no different than a requirement to follow the "reasonable accommodation" laws passed in the 60' and later. And that by making the argument you think you are making you are justifying not accommodating blacks and others!

Step off Punch....you aren't tall enough for this ride!

Paul Emery

George

The difference is I don't represent the United States of America when I speak and I'm not talking in any sort of official capacity as did Sessions. He was using Bible scripture to justify his policy which is an obvious violation of the idea of separation of Church and State. What is your position on the separation of Church and State?

Paul Emery

Romans 13 and Apostle Paul are New Testament Todd. Thought you knew that.

Paul Emery

So Todd you believe that the laws of segregation should have been followed in the south and that those who exercised civil disobedience and intentionally violated those laws were not following Gods teachings ?

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 19 June 2018 at 10:17 AM


See Punch.....back to asking questions rather than trying to work these things out for yourself. I can't help but think that this will be a far more productive use of your time than what you've done most of the morning!

Bill Tozer

The real Bottomline is there is an emotional issue here that needs to be addressed. Like the little Syrian boy who washed up on the shores on some god forsaken Greek rocky shore. The pics of starving children that sucked us into Blackhawk Down. “Do something, even if it’s wrong!”

The real real Bottomline is that Punchy and all the Lefties want it to go back to the way it was. Catch the illegals with children, give them a piece of paper telling to show up in a few months for a hearing, and hope they show up. A few might. The ones with a moral compass might.
Let’s just go back to the way it was!!! Think of that little Syrian boy’s lifeless body.
The family stays together. Catch and release....release them all back on US soil, not deport them all as a family.
The Left’s simple solution: let’s go back to the way it was! No Wall, no arrests, no verifying that that illegal alien adult is really the child’s parent. No passports either. Kids don’t need no stinkin papers. Nobody does.

Meanwhile, foreign national parents are putting their kids on top of trains heading to America with unscrupulous coyotes, criminals, sexual predators, smugglers, child sex traffickers, and placed in that group all alone. 250 unaccompanied kids arrive each day at our doorstep...because their parents are soooo concerned about being separated from their children.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1340490652751635/?type=3&theater

Resist the Wall. Stop arresting illegals! Enforcement is the problem!

Ironically, it was the Lefty’s bills pushed for and passed under a Democrat controlled Congress and Lefty lawsuits to “protect the children” that outlawed children being held with their parents in detention. Now that was all to protect children from being housed with the same certified (by lawsuits and activists) dangerous criminal element of illegal alien adults in detention, ROFLMAO. The kids must be released within 20 days, their parents can be held until their case is adjudicated. Good going Dems, seeking out loopholes and lawsuits to protect the children.

Wasting my breath. No Wall! No separating families. No arresting illegal aliens! No laws, no deterrents, no consequences. We are the World.


Gregory

"Paul, if YOU, Paul Emery (aka Punchy) had a minor child, sole custody, and were lawfully placed under arrest, would you expect the child to come to jail with you?"

Wasn't Sessions responding to the priests who were lambasting La Migra? You can't have it both ways, Paul 1011am.

In any case, the so-called Progressive feeding frenzy is in full swing.

fish

Posted by: Gregory | 19 June 2018 at 10:26 AM

You can't have it both ways, Paul 1011am.


Sure you can.....the defining feature of Punchythink is to be able to hold two contradictory thoughts at the same time and not suffer the cognitive dissonance that this would cause in an otherwise sane individual!

Bill Tozer

“In any case, the so-called Progressive feeding frenzy is in full swing”

Truer words were never said. No doubt about it. They are throwing everything they got at Trump now, everything. It’s like sticking the kids in the ovens in concentration camps! They are in full blown attack mode. Feeding frenzy is right. The blood of Sessions is being used to chum the wharf infested waters. Kinda fun to watch. Very entertaining.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1340348172765883/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.254420818025296.63999.217926015008110/1338481019619265/?type=3&theater


Gregory

It's Russia! and Deja vu! all over again.

They need the Blue Wave that the primary season did not produce. They think The Children! will make it so. It might.

Eisenhower's solution was to put our southern border crashers into planes bound for Mexico City. Make the seats first class so there won't be any photos on the Times front page of kids forced to sit in the cramped seating in cattle class that I generally buy for myself.

George Rebane

PaulE 1011am - If you insist on removing your words from a comparison with Sesssions', then I draw your attention to Tag Team Pelosi and Schumer et al who push their stealth promotion of global socialism under the emotional misrepresentation of the unique separation of illegal alien lawbreakers from their kids, while ignoring for years the same fate that Americans, especially American blacks, have 'suffered' for years. You know my utility in addressing such social problems, we don't know yours.

Don Bessee

The reality of the situation v the left wing talking points -

According to data provided to Breitbart News, each unaccompanied minor costs American taxpayers roughly $34,660 annually. This is a nearly three times higher standard of living than the average, American middle class child.
In an American middle class family of four, each child costs their parents about $12,980 a year. This is far below what unaccompanied minor border crossers cost U.S. taxpayers when they enter the Unaccompanied Alien Children program.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/06/19/child-border-crossers-enjoy-nearly-3x-higher-standard-of-living-than-average-middle-class-american-children/

;-)

Gregory

"each unaccompanied minor costs American taxpayers roughly $34,660 annually. This is a nearly three times higher standard of living than the average, American middle class child"

Not really, Don B. The minor child being cared for on the taxpayer's dime isn't getting the benefits... the staffers watching them are. And they get a nice pension and healthcare after they retire.

Bill Tozer

Good news! The Leftists have finally come up with a solution. Every Dem Senator has signed on. This is big, big I tell ya. Instead of throwing rocks, they are putting forth a solution.

“This is not a farfetched hypothetical. FBI agents are agents of DOJ (a designated agency) and Buffalo is within 100 miles of the border. So long as the daughter is either a U.S. citizen or an alien without permanent status, the FBI agents would be unable to proceed with normal law enforcement activities. The agents would be forced to choose between booking the drug trafficking murderer into jail with his daughter or not booking him into jail at all.

Panicky lawmaking often produces absurd results, and this one presents law enforcement with the choice between keeping children with their criminal parents while prosecuting them almost anywhere in the United States and for any crime whatsoever, or not prosecuting criminal parents at all. The legislation is not limited to unlawful entry prosecutions, to migrants, or (absent amendment) even to alien children.”

http://thefederalist.com/2018/06/19/democrats-border-separation-bill-let-nearly-parents-commit-federal-crimes-get-off-scot-free/

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery has lost his noggin if in fact he ever had one. No wonder the red wave is coming. People can't hack his illogical emotional BS any longer.

Bill Tozer

Todd, its not just Punchy. They just can’t get beyond children being ripped from the arms of their parents. It’s about 2,000 children being ripped from the loving arms of their parents we are takibg about. Can’t get over it, can’t get beyond it, it’s the big red ALTO sign.

That’s why I said the emotional factor must be addressed. Ok, nobody likes the idea of breast feeding tiny little helpless infants RIPPED from nurturing comfort from their angelic mommas and papas. There, I addressed it.

Its that ripping sound that gets them emotional way beyond hysterical. Is it like the sound of Trump ripping the Dems a new one? I would like to hear more audio clips of that ripping sound. Is it like pulling a scam off or is it more like shredding classified documents? Nah, that’s a tearing sound. Anybody know what the exact ripping sound sounds like? Is it like the sound of MS-13 “children” ripping the heart out of some innocent bystander as part of their initiation to the gang?

Does it sound like a zipper? That ripping sound gets them every time. I can relate. Sophie’s Choice haunted me for a long time after watching the movie. Very disturbing. “Take the boy, No, take the girl.” Heart wrenching. Except in Sophie’s case, the separation was permanent, not temporary.

Todd Juvinall

BillT, too logical man. We must bleed emotions and forget the laws our duly elected passed for our own good. My goodness, saving this unaccompanied chillin from death and exploitation, supplying food and shelter and security, all no better than a NAZI concentration camp! But the left relies on the ignorance of the people taught no history in our public schools. And it appears all the members of the fake media missed the history classes too. They simply parrot the liberal mantras as fact. RED WAVE coming!!! Thanks to the Paul Emery's of the country we will wipe out the lying left.

Bill Tozer

After Ted Gowdy ripped the IG report in today’s congressional hearings while being respectful to the IG himself, Democrat Elijah Cummings responded by launching into a tirade about ripping children from their mothers. ROFLMAO. Guess IG Howerwitz was supposed to answer to that in his internal investigation of the Bureau’s handling of Hillary’s e-mails.

Well worth watch. That Cummings’ head was ripping apart at the seams.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xA0tX3Oe4wc

Guess that is the Lefties response to everything. It’s for the children.

Todd Juvinall

All the child porn abusers and the porn industry are democrats.

Barry Pruett

This discussion is off the wall (no pun intended), but I do have one observation. We have of thousands of AMERICAN children who are CITIZENS of this beautiful nation living in poverty and despair. Until we can take care of the vast majority of our own CITIZENS, we have no business taking on all of the world's poor. We owe an affirmative duty to our own CITIZENS (especially those in the inner city) above any perceived duty to somebody else's citizens.

Don Bessee

Just a distraction from the real news -

He reminded Americans during a speech at the National Federation of Independent Businesses (NFIB) 75th-anniversary celebration in Washington, DC, that people who legally applied for asylum at the ports of entry were not prosecuted.
“The fake news media back there doesn’t talk about that. They are fake,” Trump said, pointing at reporters in the room. “They are helping these smugglers and these traffickers like nobody would believe. They know it, they know exactly what they’re doing, and it should be stopped.”
The president suggested that the media was focusing on the border crisis and purposefully ignoring the congressional hearings about the Justice Department Inspector General report on the FBI’s investigation of Hillary Clinton.

“They want to keep the cameras away from the hearings,” Trump said. “Because those hearings are not good for them. In fact, they’re a disaster for them. The whole thing is a scam.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/06/19/donald-trump-fake-news-media-helping-smugglers-and-traffickers/

;-)

fish

jeffpelline says:

June 19, 2018 at 9:06 am

What a hoot! “Fish” is begging to post here. I tried to post a response to him on Rebane’s blog, but it wouldn’t let me. Funny how that works. George protects his “own,” as if they were in a cage.


Yes jeffy....I'm "begging" to post there! Again you losing control of the narrative is to great a threat to your childlike ego to ever let me (or others not carefully screened and vetted) to ever allow it to happen.

Probably the reason you headed the "Coffee Retrieval Squad" at the Chronicle instead of doing real newspaper work! I sure Herb appreciated it!

And I suspect you're fibbing about not being able to post at RR's....I saw you squeeze a couple posts in a few days ago so I'm assuming "Operator Error".

You really are a sad little man aren't you!

George Rebane

Again for the record - FUE and others of his faith are more than welcome to debate issues in these pages, and even critique the reasoning powers in the possession of their counterparts. But coming here just to post replicas of the vituperation that adorns his own blog's comment streams is a no-no - we got enough of that crap going on here without importing more ;-)

Joke-of-Day Dept: "Mexico Rebukes U.S. Over Separation Policy" And why does Mexico permit illegals with children to transit their country, instead of inviting them to stay?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/mexico-rebukes-u-s-over-policy-removing-immigrant-children-from-parents-1529432369

Paul Emery

Todd writes:

" All the child porn abusers and the porn industry are democrats"

What bull shit. Our President is literally into porn. He screws a porn star and then and sends her money to shut up. Todd you are such an idiot to say something like that.

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 19 June 2018 at 09:55 AM

So Fish was it Gods way and the teachings of the bible to support segregation laws in the South when they were to laws of the day? Please explain you're (sic) understanding of the Bibles teachings in this matter.

I'm not going to get into theology with you Punch. I'm not qualified enough to do it justice and frankly neither are you!


It's been a few hours since I asked you the following:

"How many do we take in Punch? What level of benefits do we provide them. We know and you intimated yourself that many of these people are economic refugees. Do we employ them for $4.00 an hour and let them undercut people here legally and need to work without Punchys benevolent eye gazing down upon them?"


I realize that your ostentatious emoting takes time....and effort but have you made any progress on the matter. Are the taxpayers importing the entire world Punch or are you going to have to be selective in your grace?

scenes

paulemery: "You neglect commenting on the statement of our Attorney General who believes that our treatment of children and desperate families is somehow Gods way and follows the teachings of Jesus. He stated that in an official statement as Attorney General My goodness."

https://i.redd.it/8u10w7mbvllz.jpg

Todd Juvinall

Looks like I struck a nerve with Paul Emery. Paul, your ilk are the lefty and they are the porn makers, stars, and abusers. You cannot divert the truth. So get used to being a part of all that perversion as you defend them.

Todd Juvinall

Speaking of the FUE/Pelline. Why does his blog attract the loony left idiots? Birds of a feather. LOL!

George Rebane

ToddJ 249pm - I don't know Todd; perhaps asking Paul to give you some comparative stats to make his case would have served better. Citing Dems as perverts is easy money, but he could only do a tenuous citation of Donald Trump in private life. Think of all the fun you could have if you asked Paul to list all the Dems in public life that got caught with their wiener in the wrong place - and you could even have helped him with the list in the event he couldn't think of too many.

Paul Emery

Todd

Are you saying that Trump is not a porn user?

Paul Emery

George

Todd is a big boy. I'm sure he can deal with this himself. Perhaps I am wrong.

Bill Tozer

Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door! The Statue of Liberty-Ellis Island.

This ain’t 1886. This isn’t when thousands of immigrants were allowed and needed to work in our sweatshops running the needles, working in the hot as hell steel mills making the rails for our train system, huddled together 10-15 in a crackerbox room to live, squeak by, and carve out an existence. We needed them.

Things have changed. Barry Pruet laid it out @ 12:58 pm.

Q: What is the big difference between then and now? What is the difference since “I lift my lamp beside the golden door!” was inscribed on the Statue of Liberty?
A: Welfare. Welfare is now not just the lamp besides the golden door, welfare is the golden door.

On the solutions front, they are proposing charging the taxpayers 7.3 Billion dollars (US) to build bigger, better, grander dormitories...er...detention centers for keep the wretched refuse from teeming shores (illegal alien lawbreakers who entered our country without permission between points of entry) from being separated from their minor children. 7.3 Billion dollars (US) to build facilities to keep incarcerated illegal aliens with their children, but only 1.3 billion for the Wall between legal points of entry, none of the money can be spent on concrete I. The last Omnibus Spending Package. Hmm. Wonder how many illegal aliens would be deterred from busting into our country with a Wall between points of entry?

A bill being proposed now and gaining bi-partisan support would keep illegal alien families together when their parents get arrested for the first offense of touching sacred US soil without approval, i.e., sneaking in like thieving lawless wretched refuse between clearly marked designated points of entry. First offenders only. First offense for being an illegal alien here.

Might work. Throw money at nice new modern facilities and keep the whole family jailed together. That how all problems are solved. Pass a law, throw money at the problem, and move on to the next crisis.

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery, please provide your proof that Trump is a porn user. Oh, that's right you have none. But democrats like Spitzer and the New York AG, Weiner, three Cali Senators, And many more. Spitzer gets a TV show when they are caught and you think that is just fine. And I bet Hustler owner is your hero right? All democrats. And the San Fernando Valley porn makers are all democrats. The Stromie lawyer was a advisor to the DNC!

GeorgeR is challenging you Paul Emery in your crazy ass assertions about Trump. Put up or shut up.

Paul Emery

Do you for a minute Todd think that Trump did not bonk Stormy? Yes or no.

Paul Emery


Todd is trying to hide under Rebanes skirt
Taking a break from dealing with the pathetic Todd Juvinall except for this. Remember Dennis Hastert? Pubber speaker of the house no less. Your guy Todd.

"J. Dennis Hastert, the former speaker of the House of Representatives, was released from a federal prison on Monday and moved to a Chicago halfway house where he will serve the rest of his 15-month sentence for illegally structuring bank withdrawals he used to buy the silence of a former student he sexually abused."

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 19 June 2018 at 03:14 PM

perhaps I am wrong.


Are you saying that you might be wrong Punch?

fish

So no progress on Punchy brand beneficence yet?

Posted by: fish | 19 June 2018 at 02:40 PM

Paul Emery

Election results-finals


Democrat Jessica Morris out polls Tom McClintock in Nevada County 51-24.

Dems increase their lead in District 1 House race to 4%

Dems 51
Pubs 47

It's official Nevada County is a Blue County carrying virtually all State and Federal elections this month and voting for Hillary last time around.

https://www.mynevadacounty.com/2538/Election-Results-for-the-June-5-2018-Ele

Bill Tozer

The sound of dildos and leather restraints being ripped out of the crying arms of Democrats. Did like one of the keynote speakers at the Women’s Pussy Hat March being the voice of the movement and a rising pulsating engorged star. What has his name? Something weird like Whatzernameshultz. Oh yeah. Schneiderman. Eric Schneiderman.

Rather disgusting the way he slapped his young pretty female POC underling’s butt when she was on all fours and made her call him Master. Into that weird choking female stuff as well, that bonerfided Champion of Women. Champion of Dominique S&M is more like it.

Oppps. That’s not porn. That is just kink. In Hollywood and NYC, they call that acting. Sorry. Nevermind.

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 19 June 2018 at 03:51 PM

Still astonished that the Green Libertarian gets so lattered up over the democrats! Makes me think he’s misrepresenting his political loyalties!

And I guess all that silence about the numbers of refugees (future democrat lever pullers) Punch wants to admit is his official “no comment” on the matter! Much more fun to talk porn with Todd!

Todd Juvinall

Porn is a democrat endeavor and Paul Emry can't accept that his pals are the perps. Sure Trump boinked a porn star, she is a democrat. Was is bipartisan for boinking. And of course Stormie and her attorney are deomcrats and they have been exposed for the liars that democrat porn star and lawyer are.

Paul Emery you are the only one here that seems to be hiding under a skirt. I like women but I will let you be the upskirt man you always are.

Paul Emery

Trump

The ultimate porn user-rich enough to buy his own porn star. What a hoot

Paul Emery

Yeah Fish I might be wrong that Todd can speak his own mind, as feeble as he is. Can't even hold a job in an organization he started.

George Rebane

It sure looks like we're done talking about separating kids here.

Todd Juvinall

LOL! Paul Emery the upskirter is judging others? And since he has no proof on anything, he wildly claims Trump is a porn user. My my, you really are a sicko Paul Emery.

Todd Juvinall

Oh and regarding my smarts. I would suggest it is you that has lost whatever amount you once had. I will certainly meet you on the field of any knowledge game you choose. And I will beat you so bad even your momma would not recognize you.

Todd Juvinall

GeorgeR at 429

Yes it does. Paul Emery is the best at changing the subject when he gets his ass kicked.

Bill Tozer

Boy, this separation anxiety is creating quite the firestorm. Now he highest authority in the entire known world is speaking out, and he ain’t too happy.

Zeid Ra’ad al-Hussein cited an observation by the president of the American Association of Pediatrics that locking the children up separately from their parents constituted “government-sanctioned child abuse,” The New York Times reported.

The thought that any state would seek to deter parents by inflicting such abuse on children is unconscionable,” al-Hussein, a Jordanian prince, said.

U.S. protocol does not allow children to be detained with their parents because they, unlike their moms and dads, aren’t charged with a crime.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/06/18/un-rights-chief-us-policy-on-migrant-kids-unconscionable.html

Once again. The no more free passes only applies to illegal aliens who done got busted. Not immigrants, not migrant kids, just illegal alien immigrants. Besides, how can a child be an undocumented worker? That don’t make sense. We have child labor laws here. Child exploitation is not who we are..er...who conservatives are. Maybe that’s who the coyotes, sex traffickers, and other illegals from shithole countries as well as with our media spokesperson Hollywood elites are, but not who we are.

Once again. There are only two kinds of immigrants: legal and illegal.

Yep, we are taking migrant children, ripping them front the arms of their mommies, opening up the oven doors, tossing the frightened children inside and playing Nazi bake-a-Jewish pizza time. Love all the hyperbole.

Come to think about it, former NY congressman Carlos Danger got separated from his toddler son when he got sent up the river. He was really into that liberal stuff. :)

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 19 June 2018 at 04:27 PM

So this banter between you and Todd is keeping you from discussing the only thing you cared about this morning.

Must be an old radio mans trick!

Don Bessee

Sure looks like someone has taken this thread off the rails, bad po' ol' fakenewsman! ;-)

Bill Tozer

I think everyone can agree what this is all about, even Paul. It’s just the build up to another big amnesty fight, like what we have every 10-15 years.

Right now, kids can be held only for 20 days, under the care and sole responsibility of Health and Human Resources. Even if we sent 50 judges in the detention centers, provided attorneys, translators, explain all there options (like ten options), all it takes is for one to request asylum for various reasons. Gotta get birth certificates, verifty the parent(s) are the really the parents of the children, do the background stuff like criminal records, education, etc, and that is assuming we can get the information from a functioning civil service in their native countries in a timely matter. Ain’t going to happen.

So, let’s cut the crap. This is where I think Punchy will agree. 4 out of 5 aslymn requests are rejected for false statements, fraud, or and simply do not qualify or meet the criteria. 20% qualify and are in, legally. But what about those thousands of families who show up here with their kids and are rejected? Those 80%. What about the illegals with children who are caught? Answer: the Left wants them all released on US soil. All of them. They want them inside the US to do what they do. Period.

Catch, process, release into our country.. That’s what they want. Kick the can down the road.

Paul Emery

So it appears that the Circle of Jerks here at RR have conceded that Nevada County is now a blue County.

George Rebane

BillT 506pm - Actually Mr Tozer, there's one more step. After release, they become part of the population of illegal aliens awaiting amnesty and joining the Democrat voting block. You know, like today's population of Dreamers and other illegal alien schemers who are then too numerous to send back - 'Tell me now, how are we going to round up X million of these undocumented immigrants and send them back; go door-to-door with ICE SWAT teams and put them into trucks??' Just like now, the only 'humane' solution then will be to let them stay, qualify for all benefits and holding government jobs, and ultimately vote.

Wow! Off of what wall did PaulE's 526pm come?

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 19 June 2018 at 05:26 PM

How many Punch? Sure it’s not going to have much impact on your future but how many?

It’s really such a simple question!

Don Bessee

That's a typical po' ol' putin party parrot @ 526, pointing to the Truckee vote on McClintok is irrelevant, its only a little slice. Getting more pathetic every day in every way. Take thee to the sandbox. ;-)

fish

I hate unclosed !

Bill Tozer

Punchy is gearing up for the newshour. I am willing to bet they will play the UN’s Human Rights Council’s opinion on this matter that makes their blood boil. Bet Amy will be snarling with moral outrage and disgust tonight. I love it when she struggles with each word to try to get the sounds of screaming children out of her mind. Silence of the Lambs motivation. And, of course, replayed tapes of Chucky and Nancy and DI-Fi’s opinions as well. In a related story, she called them a cesspool of bias.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/06/19/politics/haley-pompeo-human-rights-bias/index.html

Hey, Nancy and Dianne are two rich ladies that live atop Pacific Palisades in big honking mansions with a lots of empty rooms. Kids are grown and gone and those two old bags have plenty of rooms to spare. Bet they each take in 1-5 illegal alien families. They got the money, the space, and their cause is just. Family values. Or maybe not. The thought of Nancy or DI-Fi chasing their new pool boys around while mommies in the kitchen is sorta lib creepy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iZnQPLJi2t4

Let the disgust and moral outrage flow freely from the entire Leftist industrial media entertainment complex tonight, tomorrow, and the following weeks building to a cresendo pitch by the first Tuesday in November.


Russ

fish, you once again forgot to close the italics

fish

Yeah I caught it Russ! Thanks!

Russ

Test

Don Bessee

Was it really a mistake?

Democrats’ proposed legislation to prohibit so-called border separations would actually prevent federal law enforcement agencies almost anywhere inside the United States from arresting and detaining criminals who are parents having nothing to do with unlawfully crossing the border and seeking asylum.
Every Senate Democrat has now signed on to cosponsor a bill written so carelessly that it does not distinguish between migrant children at the border and U.S. citizen children already within the United States. The bill further does not distinguish between federal officers handling the border crisis and federal law enforcement pursuing the ordinary course of their duties.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/06/19/democrats-border-separation-bill-let-nearly-parents-commit-federal-crimes-get-off-scot-free/

;-)

fish

The old coots have been at it ALL DAY LONG over on Rebane’s and Todd’s blog. Mindboggling.

Yeah.....we would like to follow in your footsteps jeffy! Up early, hit the gym....then later tennis! Maybe some pickup basketball in the afternoon at the local high school! Later a light dinner followed by another amorous session with the missus!

God how we would all like to be like alpha male Jeff Pelline.

Wait wut??

Don Bessee

This could go in a few spots but given the insanity of the dems/socialists open boarders policies -

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/26cb692a-7d05-3472-9e55-edfddd61c3db/ss_d.c.-is-full-of-psychopaths%2C.html

;-)

Don Bessee

This could take the profit out of it -

“Sessions is talking to congressional members and is hoping for a legislative fix. The AG wants an immigration policy that is just, fair and enforceable. They talked about making sure that these really are the parents of these kids,” Perkins said.
He continued, “They are looking at how to use DNA tests in the field to verify they are parents and not traffickers. The reality is if American parents put their kids through what these immigrant parents have done to their kids — they would be charged with child abuse.”
Around 12,000 children are currently in the custody of Health and Human Services after entering the United States. According to Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirsten Nielsen, 10,000 of the 12,000 children in the care of HHS arrived in the U.S. as unaccompanied minors.


“We know for a fact that a lot of adults taking children along are not related to them. [They] could be muggers. They could be human traffickers. It’s a very unhealthy dangerous thing and it needs to end. We need to return to a good lawful system,” Sessions told Perkins on his broadcast.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/19/tony-perkins-sessions-dna-tests/

;-)

Don Bessee

Ah ha -

President Barack Obama, he said, did not enforce federal immigration law and gave thousands of unaccompanied minors entry into the United States.
The federal government has also spent more than $1 billion taxpayer dollars a year caring for those children and those brought here by law-breaking parents or other adults, Sessions noted.
“That is an enormous cost that we bear because we sent a message to those crossing illegally to bring children and avoid prosecution and deportation,” Sessions said. “This country is dedicated to caring for children.”
Sessions said the United States allows more than a million people to come to the country legally each year.
“But when we ignore our laws at the border we obviously encourage hundreds of thousands of people a year to likewise ignore our laws and illegally enter our country, creating an enormous burden on our law enforcement, our schools, our hospitals, and social programs,” Sessions said.
“President Trump has said this cannot continue,” Sessions said.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/06/19/sessions-on-children-at-the-border-build-the-wall-and-we-wont-face-these-terrible-choices/

;-)

Don Bessee

Simple, deport the criminals AND their kids as a unit -

President Donald Trump defended his tough enforcement of immigration laws on Tuesday, blaming Democrats for failing to work with Republicans to change the laws to allow families to stay together.
“What I’m asking Congress to do is to give us a third option, which we have been requesting since last year, the legal authority to detain and promptly remove families together as a unit,” Trump said, calling it “the only solution to the border crisis.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/06/19/donald-trump-congress-must-allow-us-to-detain-and-deport-children-together/

;-)

Todd Juvinall

It is confirmed by his own mouth, Paul Emery is a lunatic! LOL!

George Boardman

There's at least one thing Steele, Bessee and Trump have in common: None of them know how to to spell "border."

Todd Juvinall

WOW! What an important thing to say.

Bill Tozer

It’s quote time....and even on topic!

Thus sayeth the defender of migrant children, aka, the cute and cuddly MS-13 animals. They be the right skin color.........
“I just don’t even know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be when people realize that [apprehending migrant children] is a policy that they defend.” —Nancy Pelosi

Self-evaluation: “Our party right now, and I’m probably the only one who says this, is pickled in identity politics and victimology.” —Democrat Matt Flynn, who’s running for governor of Wisconsin

“You think any of these people care about family separation? If they did, they’d be upset about the collapse of the American family, which is measurable and real. They’re not. They welcome that collapse, because strong families are an impediment to their political power.” —Tucker Carlson

Paul Emery

Polling on immigrant issue-overwealmingly oppose Trump

American voters oppose 66 - 27 percent the policy of separating children and parents when families illegally cross the border into America, according to a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today.

Republican voters support the separation policy 55 - 35 percent, the only listed party, gender, education, age or racial group to support it, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe- ack) University National Poll finds.

American voters also support 79 - 15 percent allowing immigrants who were brought to the U.S. as children, so-called "Dreamers," to remain and ultimately to apply for citizenship.

All listed groups support Dreamers, ranging from 61 - 28 percent among Republicans to 94 - 5 percent among Democrats.

Support for Dreamers has ranged from 77 percent to 81 percent in every Quinnipiac University National Poll conducted this year.

American voters oppose 58 - 39 percent building a wall along the border with Mexico. The only listed groups to support the wall are Republicans 77 - 17 percent and white voters with no college degree 52 - 44 percent.
American voters oppose 66 - 27 percent the policy of separating children and parents when families illegally cross the border into America, according to a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today.

Republican voters support the separation policy 55 - 35 percent, the only listed party, gender, education, age or racial group to support it, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe- ack) University National Poll finds.

American voters also support 79 - 15 percent allowing immigrants who were brought to the U.S. as children, so-called "Dreamers," to remain and ultimately to apply for citizenship.

All listed groups support Dreamers, ranging from 61 - 28 percent among Republicans to 94 - 5 percent among Democrats.

Support for Dreamers has ranged from 77 percent to 81 percent in every Quinnipiac University National Poll conducted this year.

American voters oppose 58 - 39 percent building a wall along the border with Mexico. The only listed groups to support the wall are Republicans 77 - 17 percent and white voters with no college degree 52 - 44 percent.

Bill Tozer

Dr. Rebane opened this post with a fine opening sentence:

Separating kids from parents

“Now that the just released IG report about Russian collusion and Hillary’s emails took the wind out of Democrats’ sail, their next bag of hot air is blowing across the land from a timely pivot to blaming the Trump administration for separating illegal alien kids snuck over the border by their illegal alien parents who are now criminals according to longstanding US law.”

The good Doc is correct again. Amazing. After Gowdy’s filleting of the IG report in Congressional hearings today, his fine colleagues on the Left responded to the investigation not by asking questions, not by challenging the report, but by launching into those long diatribes about children being ripped ripped ripped ripped from the arms of their parents. Guess they have no response to the matter at hand concerning dissecting the long awaited IG report.

Now, Punchy has used this post to pivot from ripping screaming children from their mothers’ nurturing arms, forcing the hungry frightened toddlers to survive on apple slices and water to....drumroll please.....Trump banged a porn star. Trump is into porn! Hmmm. Don’t know if Trump is into porn or not, but his slam, bam, thankyou ma’am 12 years ago does reveal he was once in a porn star briefly.

But, can we get the Leftist back on topic? Nooo. Not we got to do the Blue County two step. It’s blue, is not, it’s blue, is not, is too. She loves me, she loves me not. Well, the topic of how the locals voted in the recent state wide elections may be of interest to some, but it sure gives Punchy a big blue veiner. Focus, Popinjay, focus.

Not to be outdone, the last remaining old school Democrat in these parts still standing is our friend George Boardman who stopped by to weigh in on the topic. His pearls of wisdom kinda sounded like something a spelling Nazi would say. What a cranky old gasbag, and off topic to boot.

Me? I am just waiting for the “Trump mocked a disabled reporter!” to cycle around as the next Lefty response and thoughts on this very serious topic.

Yep, Dr. Rebane was correct again.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/rpp.217926015008110/1340833989383968/?type=3&theater

Bill Tozer

Oh my. It’s popcorn time already? The exploding heads are going off tonight. Sounds like a Chinese New Year. They are so unhinged that they are turning blue in the face. That’s a lack of oxygen. Breathe, Blue Progressives, breathe. In with the good, out with the bad.
Yep, when they go from beet red to blue, you know we are over the target. What, was it something Trump said or just the realization that it’s all tumbling down around them?

Blue in the face? That’s not healthy. Maybe that’s the Blue Wave they were yapping about just a short two weeks ago. They sure get cocky, start boasting, get their hopes up into the stratosphere, then it all comes crashing down, again and again. When I come across somebody that’s blue, best to pick them up and toss them in a bathtub full of ice. I am concerned for their well being.

“Two congressmen -- Juan Vargas, D-Calif., and Carlos Curbelo, R-Fla. -- also engaged in a verbal altercation in the hallway outside Trump's meeting”.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/19/immigration-tensions-boil-over-as-dems-accost-trump-intern-curses-at-president.html

Hmmm. Juan Vargas, D-Calif. and Carlos Curbelo, R-Fla.? Sounds kinda fishy to me. Best to check their IDs and immigration status.

Gregory

The FUE is having a hard time talking to himself... won't anyone help that man?

Speaking of checking ID's... I wonder how many of the claimed family units arrive with enough documentation to establish parent-child relationships? Looks like DNA testing is on its way.

Gregory

Polling on immigrant issue - Punch 9pm

A classic... get the entire left wing journalism complex pounding a story in unison... then unleash a bunch of pollsters to see how many folks took the bait, crying on demand like BSLSD's Rachael Maddow.

(note to gr ... I swear I posted a note refuting Punchy's numbers 'proving' the utter Blueness of the county ... if it ain't hiding in the spam trap I'll reconstruct it)

Bill Tozer

Ah, the Brown Berets. The ends justify the means. Shocking and Unconscionable.
Trump was right when he said hours before the polls closed on Nov, 2016 (talking about the Democrats) that you “cannot believe how dishonest these folks are. I thought the New York real estate crowd were tough, but these people are dishonest.” You can’t believe how dishonest they are.

“The image was captioned, “this is what happens when a government believes people are illegal.” Many were claiming it was taken at a current immigrant detention facility, but fact-checking sites were quick to reveal the picture was actually taken during a Brown Berets protest in Dallas, Texas in early June.”

https://mobile.twitter.com/joseiswriting/status/1006397160622055429

http://www.oann.com/fact-check-viral-picture-of-child-in-cage-faked-not-taken-at-border/

George Rebane

Administrivia - I took the time to delete a bunch of comments from this stream that had nothing to do with separating kids.

Bill Tozer

Gregory once asked, “What ever happened to Glen Beck? He did not go anywhere, just a smaller audience.

And just like that, suddenly everybody got woke in unison. With the snap of the fingers, the sky opened up and we suddenly are concerned with children being used as pawns in the Left’s political football games. Where were they all this time? Guess Beck back then got emotional on the air, crying that children were being used as pawns in the Left’s political football.

“On July 2, 2014, Maddow actually acknowledged kids were at the border, but she referenced Health and Human Services only briefly and completely rushed through what was actually happening to these kids. She made a vague statement about a "policy" stating where kids were being taken after their arrival. She also blamed Congress for not acting.

See any difference in reporting there from today? That "policy" she referenced has suddenly become Trump's "new" policy, and it isn't Congress's fault… it's all on the President.”

https://talk1200boston.iheart.com/featured/glenn-beck/content/2018-06-20-glenn-beck-blog-where-were-rachel-maddows-tears-for-immigrant-children-in-2014/

Steve Frisch

And pray tell Mr. Rebane, what does this have to do with "separating children..."

"Poor old "Annie" is there reinforcing the screams from jeffys Id. I wonder how long it is before the Nevada City PD catches jeffy outside in a wig and frumpy oversized housecoat wandering the streets of your fair burgh muttering to himself and sounding very much like his female alter ego?"

Posted by: fish | 20 June 2018 at 08:01 AM

fish

Posted by: Steve Frisch | 20 June 2018 at 09:49 AM

Nothing! And if George deletes it I shan't cry about it! Yesterday was a red letter day what with Punch and Coffee Delivery Man emoting over illegal immigrant storage practices so vigorously!

You should have been here Steve it was magical!

Todd Juvinall

Frisch is making the rounds on my blog too. He is too funny. Full of insults. I wonder if the IRS has contacted him about his non-profit yet?

Bill Tozer

Well, I don’t often agree with immigration lawyer Andrew Freed, nor do I need to. But , at least he stood in the rope line to ask President Obama a question about “for profit baby jails.”

https://mobile.twitter.com/ImmCivilRights/status/1008902662828511232

Bill Tozer

Moi 10:03 above
Opps. If you are like me. reading long twitter threads in lieu of an article is rather irritating. Try this format

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1008902662828511232.html

George Rebane

SteveF 949am - Thank you for assiduously scouring these pages. In RR's long comment streams it's sometimes easy to miss some of these malaprops. It will be deleted forthwith.

George Boardman

Now Trump is going to kill his separation policy.

See how easy that was, boys? Think of all the brain cells you wasted trying to defend this stupid policy.

fish

Posted by: George Boardman | 20 June 2018 at 11:01 AM


I feel your pain George! All those news flash cut ins must have really screwed with the reruns on the Game Show Network!

Todd Juvinall

Policy? He an Sessions are following the Nith Circuits decision Flores. It is not surprising you "journalists" have done no homework. Just a bunch of Trump haters. Fake news all.

M

,,,trumpski to sign executive order to keep families together,,,
After all the lies about it is the democrats fault and they have to fix it,,,

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-ill-be-signing-something-to-keep-families-together/

Lamprey,,, love the High Plains Diaper!!!
http://www.anesi.com/east/aheaheah.au

Todd Juvinall

Ninth Circuit. Anyway, you are as dishonest with the truth as you media cohorts. Why is it so hard to tell the truth? You are why no one I know, and that is both sides, believe a thing you write. Your approval is way less than Trump's. Good job.

fish

So....what's the over/under how long it takes for the ACLU to file a lawsuit after one of these kids slips away from the parents and is raped by somebody else in the facility?

fish

Posted by: M | 20 June 2018 at 11:51 AM

Lamprey,,, love the High Plains Diaper!!!


Yeah....yesterday I had to choose between that and "For a Few Diapers More".


Glad you're enjoying them dugski....I hope to bring you many, many more!

Bill Tozer

Bill Tozer
GB@11:01 a
t’s not a stupid policy, Boardman. Easy to say that sitting behind your gated community with security making sure no one scales the walls to sneak into your community.

So, I take it you are against zero tolerance for illegals aliens sneaking into our country. Sure, add children into the mix and it pulls at the ole heart strings. It’s a tough call. So, the new policy will be zero tolerance for illegal aliens unless they toss their infants over the fence, hoping some family member catches them before they hit the ground?

Trump just said something like “If you are soft, millions of illegals will flood in here. If you are tough, you have not heart.” Pretty much sums it up.

Personally, I don’t see the Dems wanting to fix this particular problem. Chucky the Clown, in a rare moment of candor, said as much. He wants the focus to be on Trump, not the Senate fixing this specific issue. Then, after railing endlessly against Trump for acting like a dictator when he rescinds executive orders or issues EO’s with the strioke of a pen, he says no need for Congress to act, just take out your pen. “Here, Mr. President, you Dictator you, you can borrow my pen”, Chucky the Clown sez, Rightttt.

A federal judge has ruled that Obama’s EO (with a stroke of a pen) establishing DACA overstepped his Constitutional authority. Up to Congress to write the laws. Then another fed judge ruled that Trump cannot end (not renewing ) DACA with a stroke of a pen. Go figure.

The Left does not want illegal immigration to be a crime. Period. All the Left’s advocacy only increases human trafficking, sex trafficking, and potentional for child endangerment.

Chucky does not want Congress to fix it because he says the R’s will put poison pills in the bill the separating illegals from their children caught crossing our border at places other than lawful points of entry. That is just speculation. Everybody is trying to use this issue for another big ole comprehensive amnesty bill...again.

Used to be simple. Catch the illegals sneaking in, detain them, and deport them back as a family. Now, we are stuck with 12,000 children, which only 2,000 are separated from their parents as their parents fight deportation. The other 10,000 kids in detention are children who their parents dropped off at the border or sent them ahead as the parents sat home,, not worrying a lick about separating their own kids from the family unit. Odd.

Trump may sign a tailored very specific EO to fix the separation of illegal alien forgein nationals being charged for lawbreaking from their children. But, the Left will not be satisfied with that for one second. Not one second. They say in unison., from coast to coast, “Illegal Aliens are welcomed here.” Trump and moi say Immigrants are welcomed here, illegal aliens are not welcomed here. That is the crux of the problem.

You, Boardman, who constantly bitch about nobody (Trump) not fixing Obamacare or trying to keep Medicare and Social Security afloat without touching it, now bitch that some of us are saying unchecked illegal immigration will bust the safety net. The first thing you posted here the morning after the election was we are all a bunch of racists and who is going to fix my health insurance!! Even then, you were acknowledging your side made a mess of things and now you want us racists to fix it. Bitch and bitch about a problem or Trump, then demand he fix a mess your side created. Sweet.

A little Central American mother of 2-3 youngins, who does not speak English or have any education beyond 5th grade and zero skills will survive here exactly how? How will she take care of her precious little ones when they get sick. Who will watch them while she is working. How many translators do we need to assign to her, besides case workers and educators? And we should let millions of illegals in top of the one million legal immigrants we welcome each year....because they pop out kids like there is no tomorrow?

Trump will fix it, no doubt. Nobody else in this whole country is equipped or willing to take on such a huge problem, as evidenced by the last 30-40 years. Love how you guys are part of the problem, your solutions are worse than the problem, and when it gets to critical mass and the mess looks unsolvable, you cry out for Trump to fix it, ROFLMAO.

No worries. Trump will fix this seemingly unsolvable mess. Won’t be easy. Just sit back and bitch, moan, and bellyache. Best to look outside and make sure no POC are trying to scale your walls. Never know.

M


"For a Few Diapers More” ,,,also good!!!

“Will work for Diapers”!!!

fish

Posted by: M | 20 June 2018 at 12:07 PM

“Will work for Diapers”!!!


I'm sure you will.

Todd Juvinall

Trump just signed a EO on the kidlets. This is too funny. Now what do the democrats do? Oh, their next outrage cut from whole cloth of course. He smoked the punks along with Boardman.

fish

jeffpelline says:

June 20, 2018 at 12:25 pm

Trump is retreating after the border policy outcry. Duh! Now the only ones defending it are the ideologues on the local rightwing nut blogs. Go figure! You go, George Rebane. You go, George!


YOU GO GEORGE.......The best part of this affair is that when jeffy is roused from his Chinese Buffet induced torpor he's nearly guaranteed to respond like a middle aged suburban housefrau who spends too much time watching Oprah™!!

"YOU GO JEFFY"!


But yeah I imagine that Trump got tired of all the tears shed over this mess.....Oh no, not the poor Mexican, Honduran, and Guatemalan children.....but the pushing 60 (or 90 in Emerys case) formally male, menopausal, crazy cat lady type former hippies who were caterwauling incessantly yesterday!

Never could get a number from Emery as to how many he thought the US should import. The minute I started trying to pin him down on numbers he immediately switched back to "Porn Star Chat with Punch Emery"....which I imagine he would much rather engage in anyway (Local radio must just suck up there!)!

Bill Tozer

My, my, the exploding heads are soooo emotional. A very pleasant inspiration lot. So attractive. Someone we all should emulate. Silly me, I didn’t even know the guy who never worked a day in his life was still alive. Learn something new everyday. He’s alive, he’s alive! Still Leader of the Pack.

http://www.tmz.com/2018/06/20/peter-fonda-barron-trump-melania-president/

At least Peter did not pull a jon smith and call the mother of Brandon a whore or pull a Punchy and went into hours of pure unadulterated outrage about the young man’s mother’s shoes. Or pull a M and call her an immigrant, apparently some kind of backhanded slap. We are making real progress here. Kinda sad when the spokespersons for the Democrat Party (a formerly major political party) are Hollywood airheads, unhinged Congresspersons, and TV talking heads who all care more about the rights of illegal aliens than they do about our the rights of US citizens. Once again, the black community gets pushed to the back of the bus. Move over blacks, the new kids are coming in.

Where are our Santuary Cities? Where is the safe place for the law abiding citizens? Where is the outcry for our fellow citizens living in poverty? Nevermind. Diidn’t expect an answer. Rhetorical questions.

fish

For those who are interested from hearing from an immigration attorney/judge regarding the issue I direct you to the 3rd hour of the June 18th Armstrong & Getty show podcast!

M

,,,America,,,separating Americans from their children for generations!!!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/Carlisle_pupils.jpg

Will work for diapers,,,

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