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23 January 2008

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Anna

George, could you provide a clear, concise summary of the logic of your PDF, in just a couple of sentences, here on your blog? I looked at the PDF and the writing in it seemed almost Orwellian - so please have pity upon those who have difficulty following your reasoning?

...among them being:
* National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
* Environmental Protection Agency
* NASA's Goddard Institute of Space Studies
* American Geophysical Union
* American Institute of Physics
* National Center for Atmospheric Research
* American Meteorological Society
* State of the Canadian Cryosphere
* The Royal Society of the UK
* Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
* Academia Brasiliera de Ciencias (Brazil)
* Royal Society of Canada
* Chinese Academy of Sciences
* Academie des Sciences (France)
* Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina (Germany)
* Indian National Science Academy
* Accademia dei Lincei (Italy)
* Science Council of Japan
* Russian Academy of Sciences
* Royal Society (United Kingdom)
* National Academy of Sciences (United States of America)
* Australian Academy of Sciences
* Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts
* Caribbean Academy of Sciences
* Indonesian Academy of Sciences
* Royal Irish Academy
* Academy of Sciences Malaysia
* Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand
* Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences

thanks -
Anna

George Rebane

The pdf takes the reader through a staged sequence of requirements that any climate change must satisfy to survive as an event of anthropogenic global warming that can beneficially and acceptably be modified by the worldwide community of nations. There is no evidence (all the cited organizations withstanding) that any of these requirements are met. For example, even something as seminal as the hyped build-up of the terrible greenhouse gas CO2 is not known as attested to by NASA scientists here. All the skeptics are ready to change their minds on the basis of scientific evidence the parameters of which I have repeatedly laid out. Continuing to call us "deniers" who don't accept that "the debate is over" confirms the stance of the PEAs.

gjr

Anna Haynes

> "even something as seminal as the hyped build-up of the terrible greenhouse gas CO2 is not known as attested to by NASA scientists here"

George, I believe you misread the article you've linked to ("Oh Where Oh Where Does the CO2 Go?") - it's about studying carbon sinks, and it doesn't say 'we don't know if CO2's building up in the atmosphere'. CO2 buildup is predicted, and is observed - and it's happening faster and worse than the scientific community expected.

The scariest thing is the lag time, for changing it - we've got about another degree C of warming already in the pipeline from what's already *in* the atmosphere, and another one from expected lifecycle of cars and coal plants, and we may already be beyond a safe atmospheric CO2 concentration due to runaway feedback effects with melting permafrost, marine clathrates, peat bogs etc. Our house is burning. We need massive technological investment and advances, to get us back on track, as Silicon Valley venture capitalist John Doerr points out. Adopting an ostrich mentality isn't going to take us where we need to go.

Anna Haynes

Also, re this -

> "All the skeptics are ready to change their minds on the basis of scientific evidence the parameters of which I have repeatedly laid out."

George, the great advantage of the web is that you only have to write something once, and from then on you can just provide a link to it. I confess I am but a lowly Harvard PhD, and still unclear on the parameters you say you've repeatedly laid out - could you please provide a link to the simplest, clearest explication that you've got? in a simple weblog post, not a PDF document? (readers can comment on the blog post, but can't do so on a PDF)

Anyone can obfuscate; what takes skill is laying things out clearly enough that they can easily be grasped.


Our house is burning.

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