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17 May 2010

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Michael Anderson

George,

An interesting analysis for sure. I guess I'm kinda old school--why not let everyone adopt MAD? Trying to stop countries like Iran, Brazil and Turkey from acquiring the bomb is like trying to catch raindrops. I am of the opinion that MAD worked well with the Soviets, why not with Iran and whoever else is working against our interests?

Speaking of which, this country could use a good exercise in deciding exactly what those interests might be. I am not talking about a Central Plan, but certainly there is nothing wrong with regions in America having a frank discussion about what they want to be when they grow up. Russ just talked about this in his article posted today.

Who will be the leaders to invent the 21st century?

George Rebane

Michael, I believe our ability to stop proliferation of nuclear weapons is already gone. MAD worked with two hegemons, for all the obvious reasons. But unfortunately MAD will not work with a growing multitude, especially when some of them are end-timers. Intuition tells us that and Arrow's Theorem puts a point on it.

George Friedman of Stratfor has had the most direct and, I believe, correct explanation of America's recent geo-political strategy (q.v.). Unfortunately China will help bring that to an end. Agreed that we need to redefine our interests.

Michael Anderson

Agreed that weapons of mass destruction in the hands of "end-timers" is a very difficult problem. Probably the most difficult of our time. Gonna have to get a copy of "The Next 100 Years;" what does Friedman say about this?

But I still think MAD could deter a Brazil, or Iran, or even a North Korea, especially after a belligerent other than those 3 was made an example of after some bad behavior. I'm more into Chaos than Arrow.

NC_Guy

One of our systemic maladies is the growth of public service unions which have now metastasized throughout our republic like an invading cancer.

Remember you are talking about people. The disease you refer to is composed of humans at work. NOT cancer cells. To demean the working class of America after a wonderful vacation (which most members of those union could not afford) to Old Europe which you no doubt have disdained along with Dick Cheney in years past speaks volumes to your feelings for those not of your class.

NC_Guy

"I suggest that you look at it as Turkey beginning to acquire a nuclear capability through a back door that goes directly against US interests. Turkey will need the nuclear big stick as it becomes the region’s 800 pound gorilla.

I wonder where Turkey got the idea?

Mmm what other country in that region has used the backdoor?

Nuclear Diversion in the U.S.? 13 Years of Contradiction and Confusion” investigates the period between 1957 and 1967 when the Nuclear Materials and Equipment Corporation (NUMEC) received over 22 tons of uranium-235 – the key material used to fabricate nuclear weapons. NUMEC’s founder and president Zalman M. Shapiro was head of a local Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) chapter and a sales agent for the Defense Ministry of Israel in the U.S. In the early 1960s the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) began documenting suspicious lapses in security at NUMEC’s plant at Apollo, Pa. In 1965 an AEC audit found NUMEC could no longer account for over 200 pounds of highly enriched uranium. Subsequent estimates spiraled to almost 600 pounds.

How tall is 600 lbs of U235? Is it the high ground do we stand on?

NC_Guy

" I'm more into Chaos than Arrow."

We will see if the chaos of the Tea Party has the result of the Arrow’s paradox theorem in the next few years.

George Rebane

Re public service unions - no I am not talking about individuals per se, but the organizations into which they form themselves. Proscribing the criticism of public service unions because they consist of people, is the same as proscribing the criticism of communism, nazism, or any other form of totalitarianism because they too consist of people. People can organize themselves poorly and not in their or anyone else's best interest.

I'll skip the class warfare comments.

Re nuclear proliferation - my arguments make no moral judgments but address the Asia minor proliferation as they affect and indicate the current status of US interests. As NC_Guy points out, the history of nations' access to nuclear weapons is rich and complex.

RL Crabb

I wonder if the "end-timers" will feel the same way once they understand that using the bomb will only "end" their stupid regime? Some folks believe the Revolutionary Guard is the real power in Tehran, and I doubt if they are so ready to shake hands with Allah.

As for the Chinese, we will avoid a war in the Pacific by giving Guam and Hawaii to them in exchange for wiping out our debt. Who says capialism doesn't work?

Dixon Cruickshank

With the polical history of hawaii in the news and its special election, its long history of being Democratic would require a big discount to get them to take it, a noble idea though.

Excellent response of the union issue George - you gotta love Gov Christy's response to the teacher - ya baby

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