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22 October 2010


Dixon Cruickshank

George you certainly know europe better than most, they really don't even like each other much - germans - french - brits, hell the scots don't even like the english and their on the same island LOL. These things go back hundreds of years as do the issues in the middle eastern muslim countries, why people think it will go away overnight is beyond me.

Apparently history in this country has been forgotten as well, many of our immigrant groups such as the Irish did the same thing in the nieghborhoods of NYC - the scandinaivians went west to escape but muslims are even more different and niether side wants to assimulate.

good piece

Barry Pruett

Coming from Chicago, it my experience that most immigrants tend to gather in the same areas. Chicago is full of these types of areas. Russian Jews tend to live just south of Skokie, there are a ton of Italians in Chicago Heights, and so on. Would you agree that these immigrants identify themselves as Amercians first, but retain their Russian or Italian heritage? It would be interesting to hear from someone from Detroit and their experience with Muslims in the area. Do they assimilate in a similar manner as European immigrants? I do not know.

George Rebane

There's definitely more to be said about the function of culture and multicultalism - stay tuned for a follow on piece. You both point out some very significant observables on the behavior and natural cohesion of cultures. It seems that response to the issue of 'culture management' is also very dependent on political ideology, and this is what I want to explore.

Barry Pruett

In addition, it would be interesting to explore the "second generations." It appears that they are more assimilated into the Amercian fabric for obvious reasons.

Michael Anderson

I agree with Barry...it's just a matter of time. As a fifth generation Norwegian-American, I can look back at my family's history and see that my grandfather was the first one who no longer emphasized his Norwegian heritage over being an American mutt.

Is 3 generations the magic number? I don't know, but I do think that the big challenge in Germany (and other places with the issues that you describe, George) is to be able to keep a lid on things while waiting to find out. Clearly, multikulti needs some significant re-engineering.

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