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22 May 2011


Todd Juvinall

Self interest of liberals and their desire to subjugate the rest of the people are well reflected in the education process. The dumbing of America's kids is bearing fruit. If Obama and his NRLB lackeys aren't stopped, the Australian ballot is history and the freedom in voting even as they do in Albania, will be lost.

Russ Steele

George Soros is infiltrating and controlling the U.S. news media from the top down by funding everything from Columbia University's School of Journalism to National Public Radio.

Many Americans revolted and fought against federal funding for NPR once they learned that Soros had contributed $1.8 million to the taxpayer-funded radio network in an effort to push his anti-American agenda. But what many Americans don't know is that Soros has connections to more than 30 mainstream news organizations, journalism associations, and the premier J-school publication: the Columbia Journalism Review.

Soros has found that his strategy of funding journalism to be a powerful way to influence the American public and
to infiltrate young minds.

Todd Juvinall

Didn't Soros help confiscate his fellow people's belongings for the Nazi's?

Dixon Cruickshank

"Democrats voted for Obama to prove they weren't racist,....now they can vote for Cain to prove they're not stupid."

just say'in

Larry Wirth

Todd, you touch upon an interesting subject. Hungary was one of the most anti-Semitic countries in Europe in the day, and I've often wondered how a Jew like Soros could have escaped the Nazi dragnet except by fingering his neighbors as Jews for deportation and liquidation.

Anyone out there have further details?

Mike Thornton

Do any of you have even the slightest bit of verifiable proof that Soros did anything like you're alleging regarding the Nazis or his fellow Jews?
Some actual "proof" when making these wild-eyed accusations would be nice (for a change)!

I'd be a lot more worried about the Saudis providing funding to FOX, then I would about any type of grant money which has to be have its uses publicly disclosed!

And Todd, don't bother responding to me in any way. I don't give a flying F**K what you think about anything or anybody!

bill Tozer

Saudis funding Fox? Guess you mean the Saudi nephew of the King whose investment company owns 7% of NewsCorp shares. I wish I owned a few thousand shares of anything Murdock touches, since he has a way of turning a old mare into a race horse. Another way of saying it is 93% of NewsCorp (parent company of Sky News and Fox)is owned by people other than the Saudis. Now, Citibank is a different story as the royal nephew is the largest shareholder. Too bad AIG and GM are owned by the taxpayers. GM needs to get way above its all time high just for us to break even. But, when you have Obama involved in GM's bankruptcy, you can write off 180 billion in debt and gain a competitive advantage over the likes of Ford who took no Obama money or stiffed the bondholders like Obama/GM did. I seem to remember Obama calling the bond holders selfish during GM's giveaway to the UAW. Stiffed the shareholders as well. GM's unions were supposed to take over the health care bills, but nooooo!, they got Uncle Sam to dump a boatload of additional money into their pension plan. Wonder if they got their wavier from ObamaCare yet? Ford had a better idea.

Mike Thornton

As you may know the Saudi Royal Family supports the most extreme sect of Islam, the Wahhabi, which is the sect that OBL used as the basis for the spiritual justification of his attacks on America and other Muslims as well. The majority of the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia controls a huge amount of the global oil market, provides funding for extremist Madrases in many countries...etc. I frankly would be concerned about the influence that they might have on a major US TV and media network, since we have no idea what those conversations are or how they influence the decisions made internally at FOX.
It certainly seems that folks at the website go absolutely bananas over the so-called Islamic threat, but then if you bring up the Saudis and FOX, all of a sudden "there's nothing to worry about!"
So that tells me that the rest of the "outrage" is totally fake and phony!

George Rebane

The history of George Soros is pretty much covered up by the left, even more than Soros himself seeks to hide his past. To my knowledge, only conservative media like Fox News and American Thinker publish direct quotes and interview videos of Soros talking about his WW2 past.


I find it hard to pin any pro-Nazi or anti-Jewish sentiments on a barely teen-ager (born 1930) during WW2. It's his extensive activities and contributions to international collectivist causes that are also directly anti-American which I protest. He is an extremely smart man of means with a world vision far from my own.

D. King

Maybe we can give to Canada with some land!


Todd Juvinall

Larry I actually listened to a Soros interview where he talked about having gathered possessions of fellow Jews who were being deported and then giving them to the Nazi's. Whether he thinks it was a bad idea or not I do not recall. Regarding FOX News. The looney left as demonstrated on this thread is more afraid of Murdoch than of Osama. Why? Because FOX gives both sides of the issues. There is no proof a 7% stock owner has anything to say about the news but the loons on the left have to have a straw-man. It would be the same if we said the million bucks Soros gave NPR influenced their news. (lol) So the left is now on the run and the truth is being told to the people and the liberals have competition in the arena of ideas. Just like the lamestream reporting the Obama fiasco on Israel. In the old days we wouldn't hear a contra POV. Well, now we do and the looney left cries a river. And they use profanity like little untamed children.

bill Tozer

Seems like simply mentioning the word FOX has some concerned. Not to worry. Obama said FOX is not a news organization, and since No Drama Obama is just about the smartest man in America, who am I to argue? Funny that when The Boston Globe published a recent editorial (favorable to Romney), some unknown members of the White House found the editorial displeasing. The Globe reporters were barred from the press during Obama's jaunt to Boston before departing to the Emerald Isle. Not quite Presidential, but quite Nixonian if you ask me. Enemies list make a comeback in the new millennium. Imagine that. Concerning the 911 hijackers and the Saudi connection, I am forming an opinion that these were not religious folk in the least. They frequented nuddie bars, solicited prostitutes, drank alcohol, and lied a lot. Not the kind of people usually known as "good Muslims". Even Osama had his porn collection in his hide out. Maybe Arab porn is not that hot, which may explain the two goats being delivered every week. So, you have terrorists that do not adhere to the teachings of Allah or attend prayers regularly that are killing unarmed women, children, and senior citizens. If there is any justice in this world or the next, the 19 hijackers will find 72 virgins in heaven.....72 horny male computer geeks who are indeed virgins eagerly a'waiting the 19.

Mike Thornton

The idea that the so-called "liberal media" would cover up Nazi involvement by George Soros is ridiculous on its face.

Here is the direct quote from the wiki that George (Rebane) cites
I agree, not only is it hard to come up with anti-Jewish pro-Nazi motives out of this it's pretty hard come even stretch it into that in any possible way!

"Soros was thirteen years old in March 1944 when Nazi Germany occupied Hungary.[19] Soros took a job with the Jewish Council,[11] which had been established during the Nazi occupation of Hungary to carry out Nazi and Hungarian government anti-Jewish measures.[20][21] Soros later described this time to writer Michael Lewis:

The Jewish Council asked the little kids to hand out the deportation notices. I was told to go to the Jewish Council. And there I was given these small slips of paper...It said report to the rabbi seminary at 9 am...And I was given this list of names. I took this piece of paper to my father. He instantly recognized it. This was a list of Hungarian Jewish lawyers. He said, "You deliver the slips of paper and tell the people that if they report they will be deported."[22]

Later that year, at age 14, Soros lived with and posed as the godson of an employee of the Hungarian Ministry of Agriculture. On one occasion, the official was ordered to inventory the remaining contents of the estate of a wealthy Jewish family that had fled the country.[23] Rather than leave the young Soros alone in the city, the official brought him along. The following year, Soros survived the Battle of Budapest, in which Soviet and German forces fought house-to-house through the city."

Citing Glenn Beck as being a "source" for anything other than flat out insanity is a waste of time and space.

Once again though I have to ask the question for all the rabid anti-Muslim paranoia written here on RR, why are all of you so quick to ignore the Saudi connection to FOX?
As stated before the Saudi Arabia is the home to the most violent and extreme form of Islam, the home of Bin Laden and the majority of the terrorists that killed Americans on 9/11.
I just don't understand why, if Islam and Shari-a are so dangerous, this doesn't concern you. The only reason I can come up with is that all the other chest beating and hand wringing is nothing but partisan and dishonest posturing.

George Rebane

Who here is ignoring the Saudis' 7% ownership of Fox News? They're sure not doing much as far as the network's editorial policy is concerned. In fact, FN's brutally truthful coverage of Islam does not put them in the best light. (But the lamestream does act as if they got their news feeds from Ryadh.) Not much political return on the Saudis' investment, maybe it's a strict money play. Anyone have a more hopeful view on this to give our liberal readers a little traction here?

Todd Juvinall

Here is a transcript of Soros on 60 Minutes in 1998. Libs, read it and weep. BTW, Soros called GW Bush a Nazi. What a swell guy. NOT!

This is the relevant portion of the transcript (from the 20 December 1998 broadcast of 60 Minutes):

KROFT: (Voiceover) To understand the complexities and contradictions in his personality, you have to go back to the very beginning: to Budapest, where George Soros was born 68 years ago to parents who were wealthy, well-educated and Jewish.

When the Nazis occupied Budapest in 1944, George Soros' father was a successful lawyer. He lived on an island in the Danube and liked to commute to work in a rowboat. But knowing there were problems ahead for the Jews, he decided to split his family up. He bought them forged papers and he bribed a government official to take 14-year-old George Soros in and swear that he was his Christian godson. But survival carried a heavy price tag. While hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews were being shipped off to the death camps, George Soros accompanied his phony godfather on his appointed rounds, confiscating property from the Jews.

(Vintage footage of Jews walking in line; man dragging little boy in line)

KROFT: (Voiceover) These are pictures from 1944 of what happened to George Soros' friends and neighbors.

(Vintage footage of women and men with bags over their shoulders walking; crowd by a train)

KROFT: (Voiceover) You're a Hungarian Jew...

Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Mm-hmm.

KROFT: (Voiceover) ...who escaped the Holocaust...

(Vintage footage of women walking by train)

Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Mm-hmm.

(Vintage footage of people getting on train)

KROFT: (Voiceover) ... by -- by posing as a Christian.

Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Right.

(Vintage footage of women helping each other get on train; train door closing with people in boxcar)

KROFT: (Voiceover) And you watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.

Mr. SOROS: Right. I was 14 years old. And I would say that that's when my character was made.

KROFT: In what way?

Mr. SOROS: That one should think ahead. One should understand and -- and anticipate events and when -- when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a -- a very personal experience of evil.

KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.

Mr. SOROS: Yes. Yes.

KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.

Mr. SOROS: Yes. That's right. Yes.

KROFT: I mean, that's -- that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?

Mr. SOROS: Not -- not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don't -- you don't see the connection. But it was -- it created no -- no problem at all.

KROFT: No feeling of guilt?

Mr. SOROS: No.

KROFT: For example that, 'I'm Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there.' None of that?

Mr. SOROS: Well, of course I c -- I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn't be there, because that was -- well, actually, in a funny way, it's just like in markets -- that if I weren't there -- of course, I wasn't doing it, but somebody else would -- would -- would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the -- whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the -- I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.

Mike Thornton

I'm sorry George, but it appears as if FOX never focuses on Saudi as being the home as THE source of the most violent and extremist Islamic doctrine of all.
They focus quite a bit on the "Shia" sects, which conveniently happen to be the biggest threat to the "Sunni" governments of not only Saudi Arabia, but the other Oil Sheikdoms as well.
I find it really interesting that you all keep talking about "7%" as though that makes it somehow benign or insignificant. If this were someone other than FOX or someone other than what appears to be (in your opinion) a "Good" Muslim you guys would being going ape dung.
It's situations like this that, I believe expose the totally contrived nature of conservative "outrage"!

George Rebane

You're quite a psychologist MikeT, never thought that anyone could pierce my carefully contrived outrage. But thanks to you, the gig is up.

For those who follow such arguments, Fox continues to cover in minute detail the warts and blemishes (ragheads included) of Sunni lands such as Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nigeria, Egypt, Sudan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Malaysia, Syria, ... (oh that Sunni list goes on and on). Now MSNBC, CNN, ABC, ..., there's another politically correct story.

We live in different universes.

Todd Juvinall

George, Thornton must never watch FOX because he is totally ignorant of what they do. They are constantly discussing all the Muslim nations. He is probably a Al-Jeezera fan.

Brad Croul

Russ S. must be on the same mailing list as my father. I received the following email forward recently. I am not buying the arguments that because Soros donates money to colleges and other schools, it proves somehow that his gifts are made with the expectation that these well respected institutes of higher learning are beholden to Soros in any way.

Todd J. must be reading more into the 60 Minutes transcript than everyone else. I don't imagine anything here but a worried, frightened young teenager trying to stay alive. I guess that might make one weep. Anne Frank had an attic to hide in but I guess Soros didn't.

Soros is merely being trotted out in response to the negative publicity generated as a result of the Koch escapades.

I thought hating the rich was a liberal tune, yet I think I am hearing the same tune here. Last I heard, it's still a free country. You can spend your money trying to influence people if you want to. That's how lobbyists make their money.

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Mike Thornton

Nice list.
No Saudi.....
I think phony outrage is a little like being an alcoholic, George.
Usually it's only the alcoholic that thinks nobody else knows.

Mike Thornton

Once again, the issue still remains, Saudi Arabia is home to the most violent and extreme of all Muslim sects. They aid in the export of that philosophy and the rural areas of Pakistan is a great example of what that activity has brought us.
In particular that would be The Taliban
And BTW #2 Much of the coverage that you claim proves your point' is (for the most part) pretty unavoidable coverage of pretty hard to ignore news events.
And in addition on the Soros topic, didn't someone reference the well known liberally biased "60 Minutes" on the horribly biased CBS network and major component of the "lamestream media" as a source for supposedly incriminating evidence against Soros?

Todd Juvinall

Ah the socialist apologists. Same old same old. Saudi Arabia is not my friend and probably not any other conservatives here. Your phony outrage is very amusing. I would say the Syrians and the Libyans might be the most extreme right now. They even murder their own.

Paul Emery

The Saudi's may not be your friends or mine but hey sure are buddies with the Bush family.


I don't think you know anything about the Wahhabi resurrection that happened in Saudi Arabia during the Reagan-Bush administrations. I can make it easy for you. Click here and let me know when you've done your homework.


Mike Thornton

It's just another example of fake conservative outrage.

bill Tozer

Don't peeve off the Saudis. You want a zillion dollar barrel of oil? Obama did the right thing by bowing to the King and kiss his Royal Excellenceass.

Todd Juvinall

Paul, I think you are confused. I said I am no friend of the Saudis yet apparently you can't read? Wahabism is a travesty and we should put as much pressure on them as possible to discourage it. I think I may no about these things then you or Thornton. Besides, I watched Lawrence of Arabia. Besides, the House of Saud has harems, you should like that!

Paul Emery

I never said you were a pal of the Saudi's. Quite the opposite. What I wrote was this

"The Saudi's may not be your friends or mine but hey they sure are buddies with the Bush family."

The story of T.E, Lawrence is very interesting indeed. I recommend reading his novel The Seven Pillars of Wisdom.

A really great book on the history of Wahhabi Islam is God's Terrorists by Charles Allen

It's very thorough and academic by Charles Allen, one of the major historians of the region in our time


bill Tozer

Todd, harems aren't all they are cracked up to be. Darn sand gets everywhere.

Todd Juvinall

Paul, you are just too serious man, lighten up.

Bill harems can be fun I have this story.....LOL

Paul Emery

Sorry Todd

I didn't mean to spoil things with a little bit of academic perspective. I know it's hard for you. I'll try not to do that again.

Todd Juvinall

Oh Paul come on now. You know I am smarten and can take anything you throw at these threads. LOL

Steven Frisch

Todd, the intellectual effete of the blogosphere!

Todd Juvinall

I love tweeking the left.

Paul Emery

Yes folks, that's Todd Juvinall who trumpets we fought the war in Iraq for women's rights.

Todd Juvinall

And you?

Paul Emery

Why we fought the war in Iraq? Strategic resources of course.

Steve Frisch

Revenge and Oil.

Todd Juvinall

So you two are uncaring about the human rights of the women there. I knew you were disingenuous. I bet you support Obama on Libya.

Todd Juvinall

BTW, where the heck is all that oil we were going to get? You see, you two can't even tell the truth about that.

Paul Emery

That's because it was a botched operation. The intent was to drill baby drill. Here's Rummy talking about how oil was going to flow

"Before the war the hope was that Iraq's annual production could relatively quickly rise to $15 billion to $20 billion per year. However, the system is far more decrepit that such estimates assumed, and combined with the near-daily sabotage of facilities and pipelines, it appears that oil revenues will rise only slowly over the next three years, from approximately $10 billion in 2004 to $20 billion in 2006."

Mike Thornton

Women were (generally) safer and had more freedom in Iraq, prior to the US invasion.
Of course one of the places were women face the worst oppression is....?
Saudi Arabia!
Maybe FOX will do an in depth investigative piece on that fact someday.......

Todd Juvinall

Liberalism is a mental disorder. My GOD you do anything to parrot the liberal party line. Amazing. No wonder you ilk is under 20% in America.

Paul Emery


Can you tell me why living under sharia law is better for woman than living under Saddam? The rise of fundamentalist Islam in Iraq is well documented as are the effects on women. Can you show me your research on this matter that lead you to this conclusion?

Mike Thornton

All you have to do is listen to a little bit of right wing, hate talk, radio and then come to RR and see exactly the very same words, phrases and talking points written on these pages.

The chain goes: Frank Luntz, RNC, the Regressive Corporate Industrial Think Tank Complex, Regressive Radio, Useful Idiots and Fellow Travelers, Tea Bag Nation, more Useful Idiots and Fellow Travelers, RR and then down the sewer pipe that leads right back to Frank Luntz' brain.
There you have it. The "Regressive", "Circle of Life"

George Rebane

MikeT, I take it that your established place here among us is for edification as a fellow traveler, or as a public service in the attempt to correct the incorrigibles. In any event, I rejoice that the matter has been settled - I don't make up all the crazy ideas that progressives gag on in these pages. According to your litany, these enjoy a wider provenance. There for a while I was beginning to feel lonesome.

Todd Juvinall

George, he is off his meds, but he is a good example of why his ilk is on the run across the planet. His buddies in Spain just got their socialist butts handed to them in the weekends elections. I have met and talked with these loons from the left and now the internet is allowing the world to see them and they don't like them.

Paul Emery

That's pretty classy commentary Todd

Todd Juvinall

Why thanks. I am a very accurate fellow. LOL

Mike Thornton

Just an "observer" from the other side of the "divide", George.
I apologize, if I gave the impression that I thought you were the sole or main source of regressive regurgitation. To the contrary, I actually do think of you as "The Brain".
Especially compared to some of the other folks on RR.
However when it comes to the talking points "flow chart" I put forward, I stand by that.
I actually do tune into right wing, regressive, hate radio on a daily basis. I assure you that not only are the various shows of the top ranters coordinated with the Luntz/RNC message of the day but you can literally read the exact same words and phrases written here, either on the same day or within 24-48 hours.
It's just a fact!

Todd Juvinall

When a liberal tries to tell a conservative they are what the liberal thinks they are then we know we have won. We generally don't say the liberal is a lemming who only mouths their talking points from Nancy or Soros but they really do. We on the right have our own philosophy of freedom and getting along but the liberal doesn't. If you listen to conservative talk radio, you will hear discussion of freedom, liberty and the Constitution. Leftwingers here hear on their radio shows hate, perversion and anti-Christianity. Too bad for the lefties. When a liberal comes here and calls the host the talking points names of derision, we know we have bested them in the world of ideas and truth.

Steven Frisch

Hey how about we Ruminate on this

Just in time for the 2012 election season, could Karl Rove fall off the wall:


I wonder if our fellow bloggers will object to Rove's use of his federal tax exempt status (or lack of status) to engage in political activity?

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