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22 June 2012

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THEMIKEYMCD

George, interesting focus on an issue with many facets.
#1-
I am still trying to process your inclusion of "welfare recipients" in the same category as "criminals, narcotics traffickers, contraband smugglers, terrorists."
#2-
My consternation for the Dream Act Jr. Executive Order is the bypassing of Congress (and the tax paying American people). I know you touched on this but this would be my focus.
#3- why the hell is it so hard to become an American Citizen? Don't we need more taxpayers? We should have made the road to legal citizenship easy/efficient years ago. Why is it so difficult?

George Rebane

MIKEYMCD 1015am - the larger category in which these members are included is the category of 'burden to the taxpayers and American citizens'. For years on RR my focus on the 'illegal entry' problem has been that it has been misconstrued as an administrative problem in America's immigration policy. Illegal entry has nothing to do with immigration, and I believe that bundling it under immigration is where the confusion started and the problems of finding a solution still stands.

Our immigration policy is fairly straightforward, and the path to subsequent citizenship is short. It is all the other categories of legal non-citizen residents that we have in the country that can get confusing.

Steven Frisch

Nice, the SCOTUS just struck down 3 of the 4 causes of action in the Arizona immigration law, upholding the stop and check portion, which will now be decided on the more narrow basis of "profiling" which will work to the current administrations advantage. Profiling cases have very clearly stated that enhanced enforcement solely due to the ethnicity of a person stopped is unconstitutional. So we will all see as the individual profiling cases come forward under the "equal protection" clause. In short, a victory for the Justice Department and the Solicitor General.

THEMIKEYMCD

Next stop in Arizona: Paper Checkpoints.

"Your papers sir" [in thick Russian or German accent for affect]

Todd Juvinall

The provision on "papers" appears to be allowed only if a law is broken such as traffic or jaywalking, not as a stand alone provision. It is not "profiling" as bloviated by Frisch. This was the main provision anyway so we will see what happens as it goes back for a endless set of lawsuits. Arizona appears to have been victorious in the core od 1070.

Steven Frisch

3 of 4 provisions are struck down, including the provision allowing states to create separate laws to enforce immigration law, and the 4th is constrained by the previous decisions of the SCOTUS on profiling. This will be the basis of the future challenges.

How about instead of directing comments at a specific individual we address the issues and make our case, instead of using words like "bloviatied" to describe others comments and immediately precipitating the rapid decline into nonsense that so often happens? This personalization of the comment is where the slide begins.

Let the record note, I did not address anyone directly here.

George Rebane

StevenF 856am - Point well made and noted.

Gregory

SCOTUS *upheld* the *MAJOR* provision in the AZ law, that law enforcement *MUST* determine immigration status when, in the wake of a lawful arrest or detention, they suspect the person is not in the country (and Arizona) legally.

That is what created the brouhaha in the first place.

Todd Juvinall

The English newspapers are calling this a big victory as well. The provision passed of the four was the major one. The rest of the decision was too confusing even for a lawyer to figure out. Scalia actually read his dossent in the chambers. I am looking for the transcript.

George Rebane

Reminder - My post on today's SCOTUS decision is here.
http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2012/06/states-enforcing-federal-laws.html

Douglas Keachie

AZTLAN was never inhabited by Aztecs. European Spanish may have landed on the beach way back when, but nobody settled until 1769, and then only religious nuts and near slaves sent with them. They lasted 80 years, when the USA swamped the state. USA did not treat the real locals with respect, they murdered them wholesale, but the missionaries managed to kill off 55,000 Native Americans, they kept good records. AZTLAN is bullshit.

No, hell didn't freeze over, it's the bloody historical truth.

http://www.nativeamericannetroots.net/showDiary.do?diaryId=525

also look up Chief Tenaya, his son, and Major Savage, Michael Allen Weiner's namesake, you know, the radio pukeman.

There, balance of the universe restored.

Douglas Keachie

San Jose just pulled $30,000,000 out of the 49'er stadium deal, to pay for...teachers.

George Rebane

DougK 1144pm - The historical verity of Aztlan - its location, occupants, happenings, ... - is irrelevant to its modern use by Hispanics as a politically focused and focusing idea. I'm sorry that this wasn't clear to you from the addendum and its citations.

Douglas Keachie

Show me one Aztec artifact found within the borders of the USA. Or Olmec, etc.

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