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28 August 2012

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Steven Frisch

I hate to tell you this George but you have been hoaxed. The 'charlotte in 2012" web site is not a DNC web site, it is an independent non-profit organization set up by and based in the City of Charlotte to promote events that are occurring at the same time as the DNC. They designed the site to look like the DNC site, but they are un-affiliated.

Here is the link to the web site

http://charlottein2012.com/about/

Steven Frisch

By the way, if one follows the link to The Blaze, and then to the NY Post article on Cardinal Dolan, the story is very different. Cardinal Dolan invited himself to give an invocation at the convention, not the Islamic event, and the DNC declined because they had invited another person to do an invocation.

Steven Frisch

One more by the way, didn't 174 House Republicans vote for the sequester, including Vice Presidential candidate Paul Ryan?

Account Deleted

Question for Steven F - Who has "hoaxed" Dr Rebane? The Blaze article clearly lays out the facts that you have agreed with. Are you saying the DNC is against this prayer meeting? Are prominent Dems going to speak out against it?
As far as the sequestration, we can be for or against it on it's merits. I don't give a tinker's damn who voted yea or nay.

Steven Frisch

Scott: the Bureau of Indigenous Muslim Affairs event is not a DNC event; it is being produced and presented by an entirely separate organization: it is not being promoted on the DNC web site, if you go to the link I posted above you will see it is being promoted on a web site created by a non-profit in partnership with the City of Charlotte that is designed to look like the DNC site but is entirely separate.

The Blaze article is incorrect in the following ways:

It states: "the Democratic National Convention is raising a number of eyebrows after choosing to proceed with featuring Islamic “Jumah” prayers for two hours on the Friday of its convention"

The truth: it is not a DNC event and the DNC is not promoting it

It states: "Democrats earlier denied a Catholic cardinal’s request to say a prayer at the same event."

The truth: the DNC did not deny Cardinal Dolan an opportunity to pray at the BIMA event, they turned down his offed to say an invocation at the convention.

It states; Watch the promotional video via the Bureau of Muslim Affairs, which claims it is hosting the event “at the Democratic National Convention.”

The truth: The article implies that the event is at the DNC in the opening paragraph yet says that BIMA claims it iOS "at the Democratic National Convention" in its second reference--how could they possibly hold the DNC responsible for the claims of a third party completely unaffiliated event?

So the truth is the event is not a DNC event, yet George posted that it was, "The DNC is going to have a big Jumah (a Muslim group prayer meeting) from which Christian ministers have been specifically excluded. TheBlaze.com has the story. (H/T to reader)"

So he was hoaxed in that he repeated a story sent him by a reader without bothering to source it....perhaps if he had done what I did, go to the blaze story, capture the "Charlotte in 2012" web site, look it up, read the 'about' page, then run down the web domain ownership, he would have been able to TELL THE TRUTH, rather than repeating blather from the right wing propaganda press.

Oh, and the point about the sequester is that George is slamming Democrats over the sequester, but it was Republicans who voted for it that passed it 174 Republicans voted for it, so if it bad policy the Republicans are just as responsible as the Democrats.

Steven Frisch

Oh, and by the way, although Cardinal Dolan was turned down to give the opening invocation at the DNC because the DNC had already asked someone else, he will be giving the closing invocation

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/28/dolan-to-pray-at-democratic-national-convention/comment-page-1/

George Rebane

StevenF various - Thanks for those alternative clarifications. We'll see how it shakes out. What we don't see is an outraged denial from the DNC for the Muslims who have taken their name in vain. I don't know why such a big event would evade their attention. Are they playing both sides of the street?

Most certainly the Republicans also voted for the sequestration as a compromise so as not to be accused of shutting down the government. But I think you have to be from Mars to believe that they proposed the shown ratios and amounts of tax cuts.

Paul Emery

Yeah Stephen

I followed the same links. It looks like RR has run out of cards and has to blatantly make things up to please the crowd. This is typical shadow convention stuff that happens at every convention.

https://events.r20.constantcontact.com/register/eventReg?llr=kprxk9jab&oeidk=a07e5ymdyuf33f4d9a5

George, I'm pretty disappointed in you on this one.


Much like the Republican Convention. I sure learned a lot about the accomplishments of Christie, Santorum, Nikki Haley but nothing about Romney. Bad start for sure. Christie is so full of himself it must have been embarrassing to Romney. Both Christie and Ann Romney gushed about Government assistance programs to further education (the GI Bill and the John and Abigail Adams scholarships http://www.osfa.mass.edu/default.asp?page=adamsScholarship )

Steven Frisch

It is shadow convention stuff...I am sure the Republicans are not promoting Huffington's drug war shadow convention......

By the way George, the Republicans may not have proposed the ratios' but nevertheless they voted for them, so they own them.

Account Deleted

So it was BIMA (the Islamists) that are doing the "hoaxing". Or maybe it's Steven F.
You have lifted part of the sentence from the article and put it in quotes.
Steven wrote: "It states: "the Democratic National Convention is raising a number of eyebrows after choosing to proceed with featuring Islamic “Jumah” prayers for two hours on the Friday of its convention"
Actually the Blaze site said: "The host committee for the Democratic National Convention is raising a number of eyebrows after choosing to proceed with featuring Islamic “Jumah” prayers for two hours on the Friday of its convention, though Democrats earlier denied a Catholic cardinal’s request to say a prayer at the same event." Gee, Steve - how would you like it if I lifted partial passages of your statements to twist your message?
Steven also states: "The truth: the DNC did not deny Cardinal Dolan an opportunity to pray at the BIMA event, they turned down his offed to say an invocation at the convention."
Please go back and read the article - it is clear the that Blaze was saying that the Cardinal would not be allowed to pray at the Dem convention. (updated - now he will be) Where exactly does the Blaze claim that the Cardinal wouldn't be allowed to pray at the BIMA event? When I read an article, I go through the entire text first before jumping to conclusions.
I think there is an attempt to deceive here. By your own words it is the BIMA group.
It will be interesting to see what distance the Dems put between themselves and the BIMA folk.

Steven Frisch

Scott, read it, I did not change the meaning. The host committee is the DNC.

And re The Blaze comment, you need to click though to the post article, you know, the actual source, and in that it explains the circumstances.

yes, I agree the BIMA group is attempting to deceive...but so is The Blaze. It is the repsonsibility of journalists to dig and get this stuff right; and it is our responsibility to not let people get away with this stuff be reposting unreliable crap without checking it.

The bottom line is the bottom line...the event is not a DNC event

Paul Emery

Yes and George, with his desire to find something negative about the Democrats fell for it. That was precisely the intent of the fake site. Also he "Blaze" is hardly a credible source to look for material.

TomKenworth

There's a tumah in your purported Jumah, George.

Account Deleted

"The bottom line is the bottom line...the event is not a DNC event"
I read the article from the Blaze and never thought that they were saying that.
"The host committee is the DNC."
Well, I found this on the Charlotte In 2012 web site -
"The Charlotte in 2012 Convention Host Committee is a non-profit, non-partisan organization established by the city of Charlotte to fulfill obligations of the master contract with the Democratic National Convention Committee. In addition to those obligations, Charlotte in 2012 works to engage the citizens of Charlotte and the Carolinas through business and civic opportunities, ensure that the Convention leaves a positive lasting legacy, and tell Charlotte and the region's story to the nation and the world."
So it would seem that the "host committee" is not one and the same as the DNC.
And you never answered my question as to where the Blaze asserted that the Cardinal was supposed to be praying at the BIMA event.
My bottom line is that it will be interesting to see what kind of reaction the DNC has to this BIMA group who claim there will be - "Jumah at the 2012 DNC".
Remember - the Dems claim they have the "big tent" that embraces everyone and everything. Easy to do if you have no values beyond getting votes and power.

THEMIKEYMCD

A simple Q/A to support "Why it’s so damn hard to be a Democrat"
Ask a Democrat: "How much taxes should 'we' pay?"
Democrat answer: "More"

Ask a Democrat: "How much should the Government spend (% of GDP, % of revenues, etc)?"
Democrat answer: "More"

Ask a Democrat: "How much debt should a country incur?"
Democrat answer: "More"

Ask a Democrat: "How many rules/regulations should we have?"
Democrat answer: "More"

Ryan Mount

Mikey-

Reminds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGL-Ex1CD1c

Best 18 minute 46 seconds spent today. The best part about all this is Mr. Schiff agrees with them. But they're not listening. All fire and no heat as my Blake Professor used to say.

TomKenworth

Ask a Republican how much of America should the richest man own:

"All of it."

As in Romney's IRA:

http://www.jasonmorrison.net/content/2012/a-little-math-on-mitt-romneys-ira/

Ryan Mount

Note this very important observation from the above link from Doug:

"I really doubt Mitt Romney has done anything illegal with his IRA."

Right. The reason Mitt Romney doesn't pay taxes is because the electorate wants that. And then the government just executes on the voters marching orders. Civics 101. "But Ryan, it's not that simple. There are Corporate Citizens, lobbying and"...STFU. What we suffer from is a lazy citizenry. It's Odysseus' Land of the Lotus Eaters: Dr. Oz style.

I'm beginning to think that the American Progressive movement has become co-dependent on their enemies. They need something to build up (blame), so they can knock it down. And then mix a little victimization into the poll booth, and you have a perfect justification for revolt. Which is fine. Good luck with that.

The American Right also seems to have its weird obsessions as well, notably this fear of censorship, birth certificates, etc. But as noted in the Peter Schiff video above, when it comes to actual **policy**, it is the demand-siders that got us to this current predicament, which where enabled (implemented) and encouraged by the government. And that would be us.

The banks, to draw a metaphor, drank the liquor but the government was pouring heavy. The Bush and Obama Administrations exacerbated our troubles by pouring faster. I think Bush poured heavier, but Obama's catching up quickly.

Paul Emery

Yes Ryan

There's nothing better for religion than a good healthy devil. That's why both sides thrive and depend on each others perceived excesses. The Dems wil have pleanty to feast on with the Republican platform and Romneys impotence and the Repubs have all they need with Obama's ineffective and weak leadership. I'm looking elsewhere and plan to straighten a third party.

THEMIKEYMCD

One of the beauties of capitalism is that the system is not finite... it is not a zero sum game. Wealth begets wealth begets wealth.... the fact that someone is gaining wealth does not mean others are giving up/losing wealth. Attacks upon the successful are based on envy not reason/love/compassion.

I agree with Ryan that we suffer from a lazy citizenry [decades worth]. Educating oneself is hard work.

billy T

The New Jersey speaker hit it on the head for me last night. Being respected versus being loved. Gawd, we bend over backwards and take it full force in the asre so we don't offend someone with the truth and hope against hope they will like us. People of Obama's idealogy will NEVER like us. Ragheads will never like us cause they are hell bent on destroying Western Civilization and force us to convert or death. Libbies have never seen a dollar that they won't spend, ever. They give it away and call it a right so they will be loved. Maybe if we pass out more free lunches the blacks won't riot in the streets. Trying to be liked or, even worse, being afraid of not being liked is the receipt to end up being road kill. The right is not co-dependent and we don't go to Codependentcy Anonymous. They say its a disease. If it is, the disease is called liberalism. Ok, what does a liberal say after sex? A: Was it good for me?

Paul Emery

Fair enough Bill T. You wear your monks coat well. Christie' speech was the most self centered example of self aggrandizement I've ever heard at a political convention, Romney kept looking at him with this "What about me?" look. Tonight we hear from Paul "every sperm is sacred" Ryan. The Repubs have dug themselves in a big hole with their social agenda and while it may please the true believers it will surely lose the election.

Ryan Mount

"The Repubs have dug themselves in a big hole with their social agenda and while it may please the true believers it will surely lose the election."

That's their Achilles Heal for sure. If they are going to lose, it will be because they've alienated a good chunk of the electorate because of it. If they would just pull a 1984 Reagan and ask "Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?" they'd have a real chance. But they keep getting mired in these frankly outmoded social issues.

I was disappointed by Christie's speech. I found the rhetoric paternalistic, nostalgic, uninspiring and dull. And I wonder if he's actually read the Lyrics to "Darkness on the Edge of Town?" It's probably ironically more fitting for the GOP.

Paul Emery

In my view a moderate Republican (Romney pre 2008?) would clean up right now. They're leaving the middle wide open. And what happened to Bushie Jr? Not a peep. Why are they so embarrassed about their past? It's like they have no heritage except for Reagan and that was 30 years ago. Even the Newt is banished from the festivity as well as Ron Paul who's delegates were booing Boehner on Monday for being shunned by the rules dragons. The party is a mess with no heart and soul. Sure they are showing a Paul tribute retirement video tonight but he won't even be in the room. What you have is a body with no legs.

The Dems have their own problems with their failed golden boy . I'll get to them next week

Ryan Mount

Yep Paul. Again the lyrics to Springsteen's Darkness on the Edge of Town are fitting for the GOP. Dummies. Just like they thought Born in the USA was a nice song about America.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg0ekQBmzKs

They're still racing out at the Trestles
But that blood it never burned in her veins
Now I hear she's got a house up in Fairview
And a style she's trying to maintain
Well if she wants to see me
You can tell her that I'm easily found
Tell her there's a spot out 'neath Abram's Bridge
And tell her there's a darkness on the edge of town

Everybody's got a secret Sonny
Something that they just can't face
Some folks spend their whole lives trying to keep it
They carry it with them every step that they take
Till some day they just cut it loose
Cut it loose or let it drag 'em down
Where no one asks any questions
Or looks too long in your face
In the darkness on the edge of town

Some folks are born into a good life
Other folks get it anyway anyhow
I lost my money and I lost my wife
Them things don't seem to matter much to me now
Tonight I'll be on that hill 'cause I can't stop
I'll be on that hill with everything I got
Lives on the line where dreams are found and lost
I'll be there on time and I'll pay the cost
For wanting things that can only be found
In the darkness on the edge of town

George Rebane

We're getting pretty philosophical around here. I'm reminded again that a lot of Springsteen lyrics require a user's manual to decode. Here's simpler one that I just got from a correspondent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tE0M9R1YXH0

Gregory

It's worth noting Mitt Romney's IRA account pays the same taxes mine does... the corporate income taxes the states and Feds skim before my IRA account investments get a dime.

Make no mistake, it is a skimming, just like the mob used (?) to do in the casinos they controlled.

billy T

The Dems would be a great political oppenent if they were not loaded up with extremists. We have a Energy department and an EPA. What does Obama do? He creates a Green Czar with Van Jones. WTF???

Hey, I don't mind the bashing back and forth. Anyone who says different is ignorant of the Constitution and American history. Yes, some go over the top like calling Mrs. Andrew Jackson a harlot and leading to her suicide. But, politics is made to be confrontational.

Just like a passionate trial. Both sides present their cases. Both sides minimizes the shortcomings of their man and exagerate the wonders of their side. Calls for a knock down drag out debate to be decided by the jury. The voter is the jury. One side promises the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, while the other tells us the truth about the time has expired on the meter and no more quarters in your pocket. No more kicking the can down the road and maybe , just maybe, green energy will create 3% of the work force someday.

The Republicans tell ya the way things are. The Democrats tell you they way they think they should be, but are not. One side stand upright. The other side has their head in the sand, mustering only enough strength to label the other party "extremists".

At the end of the day a compromise is reached, probably with nobody happy. But, if I see a rattlesnake on the ground and he promises to play nice and I tuck my new friend down my pants, then shame on me if I get bit. Double shame and double the stupidy if I trust a raghead or liberal again. You can compromise with liberal extremists.

Earl Crabb

Being an unrepentant child of the sixties, I still prefer The Who's warning...

We'll be fighting in the street
with our children at our feet
and the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
sit in judgement of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song
(Chorus)
I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play, just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray

We don't get fooled again

Change it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fall, that's all
But the world looks just the same
and history ain't changed
cause the banners they all flown in the last war
(repeat chorus)

I'll move myself and my family aside
if I happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
cause I know that the hypnotized never lie

Now there's nothing in the street
looks any different to me
and the slogans are replaced by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
is now parting on the right
and the beards have all grown longer overnight
(Chorus)
I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!!!

Meet the new boss...
Same as the old boss

TomKenworth

It amazing they let Condolezza Rice speak.

Because she so towers over the choices the Repubbys made.

TomKenworth

"One of the beauties of capitalism is that the system is not finite... it is not a zero sum game. Wealth begets wealth begets wealth.... the fact that someone is gaining wealth does not mean others are giving up/losing wealth. Attacks upon the successful are based on envy not reason/love/compassion. "

Of late, wealth must have been raped, and even all the counselors and all the tax cuts don't seem to be able to get her to conceive again.

TomKenworth

The Tank family built a donut shop, but they sure didn't build it in Cambodia. (commenting on Senator Paul speech at the R.Convention.

billy T

We are going to do better.

Gregory

If Rice was on the ticket, the Keachies of the world would be roasting her, too. The 'good Republican' is always the one Republicans didn't choose. McCain was also the darling of the moderate left, until he was nominated.

In an interesting development, the Chicago teacher's union has given its 10 day strike notice, just missing DNC Charlotte... That'll give Rahm Emanuel time to get home after speaking.

George Rebane

TomK 1036pm - Enterprise and wealth creation flourishes when there is a clear understanding that your profits won't be confiscated, and that the start-up costs will not be pushed sky high through regulatory burdens. There have been no tax cuts under Obama to support wealth creation (aka economic recovery). Only progressives continue to expect such results from a temporary tax cut to consumers and businesses - the most undefendable part of Keynesian economics, one that has never achieved anything but to garner the votes of the ignorant and/or mentally feeble.

billy T

3 years out of a recession and 374,000 people applied for unemployment benefits this week. We must do better.

Paul Emery

"So now it’s time to pander to America’s Muslims."
George
So now that's it's established that this is not an offical function of the DMS but a religious outreach gathering sponsored by Muslim Americans, why should the DNC treat this any differently than say a Baptist gathering at the same site?

TomKenworth

As I have pointed out before, the Republicans are spending over 1 billion dollars (when you include their superpacs) to make sure the stupids of the country believe that it is all Obama's fault, and the leadership don't really mind losing this election. God forbid they should when, because then they'd have to deliver, much like "the Producers." George has admitted that rebuilding the former middle class just isn't going to happen. The whole point is to extend the time to get Americans used to the New Feudal America, and be able to to have Obama as the fall guy.

George Rebane

PaulE 946am - Possibly because of 1) global Islam's overarching acceptance of its radical elements, 2) the 9/11 attacks on the US, 3) the relationship of its participating leaders to radical Islam (which has vowed to defeat and convert America into an Islamic state), and 4) BIMA's implied (but not countermanded) relationship of this Jumah to the Democratic Party and its national convention.

TomKenworth

Yes William, Tell it like it is:

RepublicansBuildNationalDebt

Paul Emery

In your view is that justification similar to the internment camps in WWII? Should the US government pass some kind of restrictions on citizenship to all Muslims Americans and do you prescribe that there have been a prudent shunning by Charlotte and the DNC to their event? Also, what evidence do you have linking the participants to radical Islam?

billy T

National debt clock will reach 16 trillion sometime during the Democrat Convention. Another new record. Dems are stuck in the ditch. No worries, the Romney/Ryan wrecked car removal service is coming to a town near you. Ombama the fall guy? Never! We must look Forward now and not blame. Blaming is so beneath us. We will do better. We gave the guy a chance, but patience is growing thin. Time for Change! Yes We Can, Yes We Can! Forward.

Ryan Mount

BillyT

> Romney/Ryan wrecked car removal service

I think you meant Ron Paul. (unless you were being sarcastic, my apologies) He'd be happy to do that. And it would be interesting as he whacked a trillion dollars off the budget in the first year. And nervous fidget Paul Krugman's head is on the verge of exploding at even the thought of it. Sing it with me! "More, More, MOOOORE! How do you like it? How do you like it?"

Romney/Paul? Why would I think they're any different than the last batch of cretins we've had over the past decades?

And yep with regards to Obama. It's "Forward" with an asterisk.

billy T

Considering all the bills passed by the House that are dead on arrival per Harry Reed's orders, one must wonder why the Democrats are the party of no. Guess settling for the new normal is fine and dandy. Can't never accomplished anything. But, as mentioned before, no time to blame.

Time to fix the mess, time to get the train back on the tracks. Some foolish nay sayers will be so brain dead that they will crawl under a rock and blame Fox News. LOL. Its all Cheney's fault! Those who are so backward looking are truely extremists. The water is warm. You are welcome to get back on the cart as others pull you down the road of prosperity.

TomKenworth

" You are welcome to get back on the cart as others pull you down the road of prosperity." The problem is, the "Bridge to Nowhere" is out, and the chasm into the New Feudal America Canyon is getting deeper. Wylie Coyotes of the Republican party pulling any harder, ..... we don't need.

Ryan Mount

> Those who are so backward looking....

...are supposed to be conservatives. :-)

billy T

Come on fellows. Nothing personal. We gave the lad time and he just ain't up to the task. No use crying or blaming. We just got to get someone in there to fix the f#%ker. Results matter. Perhaps in a different time when our nation did not face such big challenges, anybody would suffice in the Oval Office. Some medicore men rise to greatest in times of great trial. Others show they just cannot muster genuine leadership. Some thrive, some die on the vine when put on the firing line. History is littered with those not up to the challenge and/or pursued failed policies. Some of the fallen where likeable fellas.

TomKenworth

Even George Rebane admis no one can fix the thing, quit kidding yourselves, he shark's teeth are only pointing one way.

Ryan Mount

If we don't fix it, it will fix itself on its own terms. Whatever "it" is.

TomKenworth

To repeat George, especially in light of the E.S. eminating from the convention:

"And as I have pointed out on these pages for years, no one really knows how to 'save the middle class', or whether it is even salvageable in its historical form. Times, technology, and the world have changed and continue changing very rapidly. And it is only the calcified progressives who always hearken back to one-dimensional relationships and forged-for-the-ages activist issues (while accusing the conservatives of doing that).

I do believe that many of the old economic and social paradigms will fall, and be replaced by something very new and not by the multi-failed collectivist disasters of old. IMHO, the solutions will come from a wide distribution of free people, each of whom are allowed the rewards of their successes, and definitely not from what Hayek called the 'central planners'. Until/if machines dominate, human nature is the most constant asset we have."

George Rebane

PaulE 1102am - "prudent shunning"? Yes, by the DNC disavowing BIMA's claimed relationship with them.

Don't know about the sentiments of the attendees, but the Muslim leadership of the event have their dubious relationship cited here.
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/political-potpourri/2012/aug/23/storm-headed-charlotte-thanks-jumah-dnc/

TomKenworth

I think I'll insult as many people as possible and catch the 4:20 to Jumah. Really, George, just as not every Northern European is a NAZI, so not every Muslim is a terrorist.

billy T

My, my. At least the Dems are being true to their colors and embrace their own.


There are two forms of lying that are permitted in Islam under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. Such circumstances are typically those that advance the cause of Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.

Basically, taqiyya is lying by saying something that isn't true

Birds of a feather flock together..

TomKenworth

Speaking of birds, the latest in drones from Al Qaeda, the Kiteman. In Scotland you can hear our drones a'coming from quite some distance off, along with the drums.

George Rebane

TomK 234pm - Another reprehensible strawman fashioned out of whole cloth, attributed to the other, and the shot down in flames. It there a School of Liberal Argumentation that teaches this stuff?

billy T

Kiteman is too white ever to be accepted in the Dem fold. Besides you know what they say about the Scots and their thriftiness. Shame on them. They are freaks of nature. They don't have one drop of liberal white guilt in their blood. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/30/state-department-hold-down-fort-other-common-phrases-could-be-offensive/?test=latestnews

billy T

Those silly peace lubbing Muslims are too funny: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/08/30/global-christian-group-takes-up-cause-11-year-old-down-syndrome-girl-facing/

George Rebane

re billyT's 316pm - Any ideas on how to get this wallet sucking craphead out of government service and into a real job, or at least on a more recognizable form of the dole?

billy T

Dr. Rebane 03:31pm. I am shocked! Shocked I tell ya. Psuedo diversity trumps rationality every time. Where have you been?

Perhaps our State Department public servant could borrow the tobacco enema. He could use it for diversity training and sensitivity sessions on all the State Department's 600,000 employees. Idle hands are the devil's workshop and all that stuff. Maybe using his hands instead of his head will improve his thought process. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

TomKenworth

Pretty soon speech will be a "tool of gum."

billy T

Cheer up my brother Tom. Things are looking up. Sure, everything appears down the crapper at the moment: unemployment with bleak prospects of jobs, 900 billion in interest alone due in the next ten years, millions flocking to food stamps, growing radicalism in the Middle East nations causing concern, education system down the tubes, people feeling ill at ease and thinking their children will be worse off than they. Promises stated, promises broken. A dark cloud has been hovering over our amber fields of grain.

Time to come together my brother from a different mother. We can do it! Yes we can! Don't lose hope. People that lose hope are prone to suicide. Our best days are ahead. Together we can. Simple but not easy. Show that backbone of yesteryear. You don't have to live in despair. Get hold of your self man. My hand is always extended to you. No use running from Obama's record and making excuses. We can do it. We can face the brave new world. Together rich and poor, black and white, we can rise above the pettiness and soar. Forward!

Ryan Mount

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That hurt my head brother billy.

TomKenworth

I notice potential President Romney is using a teleprompter. How Awful!

TomKenworth

Watch the pattern, after applause he looks straight ahead, the rest of the time he looks right or left, where the two teleprompter screens are located.

TomKenworth

Still Ryan makes jokes about teleprompter, then winds up using one, following the lead of Romney:

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/paul-ryan-teleprompter-joke.php

billy T

Oh Tom, it takes more muscles to frown than to smile. Be of good cheer. The darkness is passing! The dawn will break across America in short time. The sun set tonight never to return. Do not mourn for the setting sun, my sista from another mista. Instead rejoice that the sun will make all the morning glories on the fence sing aloud and sing proud. Pettiness is so beneath you. Think of your future grandchildren. We can be small or we can stand tall.

TomKenworth

Oh William, do not be concerned, Clint Eastwood made my night!

"The Romney campaign seemed to grasp how Eastwood's bizarre, rambling, unscripted speech fell flat. "Judging an American icon like Clint Eastwood through a typical political lens doesn't work," was the campaign's response. Aides winced backstage, according to the Associated Press.

Eastwood's attacks on Obama didn't faze the campaign. "Referring all questions on this to Salvador Dali," Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt said in an email to The Huffington Post."

billy T

Good you found a silver lining. Darn if you go on prompter, darn if you don't. Well, glad your mood has improved. Can't decide if I liked Mr. Eastwood best in Grand Torino or The Unforgiven. Well, at least he played a part in lifting your spirits. Now, do you feel lucky? Well, do ya punk? :)

TomKenworth

http://www.reelclassics.com/Audio_Video/Quotes7r/bette_alleve_seatbelt.wav

(actually a couple of fortnights.)

billy T

Why is it so damn hard to be a Democrat? Like Rodney Dangerfield, they just can't get no respect. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/02/protesters-stage-sit-down-near-democratic-convention-site-but-are-ignored-by/

George Rebane

billyT 126pm - excellent highlight. Your job, should you accept it, is in your own inimitable way to keep us all informed as to the travails of the demonstrators at the DNC.

billy T

The convention in the Bank of America rah rah arena should provide some interesting paradoxes. Trouble in Paradise before the fun begins? Why is it so darn hard to be a Democrat? http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-15/obama-carolina-convention-plans-going-awry-for-democrats.html?cmpid=otbrn.sustain.story

billy T

Love the idea of Obama repairing bridges to the Unions. Even came up with a "Hug a Thug" slogan. It ain't easy being a Democrat. I don't think this is what they meant by their "Hug a Thug" campaign. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/03/secret-service-truck-stolen-with-supplies-for-biden-event-in-detroit/?test=latestnews

TomKenworth

Huggies for Thugees, Medicare comes to India.

billy T

Last line is beautiful in its simplicity "That's not good." http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/occupy-protesters-block-dnc-buses-184907071--politics.html

billy T

Why is it so damn http://www.examiner.com/article/democrats-remove-god-from-dnc-platform-insert-obama-s-name-over-100-timeshard to be a Democrat?

billy T

Opps, try this: Not hard to a Democrat at all. Obama's platform names Obama many times, the most of any reference. God finally got removed. Democrat platform: number of times Obama is mentioned:100. The number of times God is mentioned: 0. Maybe that will keep the atheists from doing today's march on the DNC in Charlotte. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/democrats-shift-language-on-israel-remove-god-given-from-platform/

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