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04 April 2013

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Gregory

Congratulations to the people of Connecticut, whose politicians managed to get their 'gun safety' overhaul in place before their police managed to finish and make public their report on the crime that inspired it.

Also inspiring is the Colorado House Democrat, the prime sponsor of gun bills in the House for the last two sessions, who explained how the freezing of large capacity "magazine clips" works. You see, they're just bullets, and as shooters use them up there will be fewer and fewer large capacity "magazine clips" in circulation, and they will in the end just cease to exist. She had no understanding that magazines are sold empty, separately from ammo, and can be reused and reloaded hundreds and thousands of times.

This from a Democrat in office who has been working on legislation for years.

That gaffe is of the same magnitude as the idiotic "legitimate rape" brain fart of a Republican in the last cycle, but she'll probably be reelected as her main constituents probably don't care; they just know big "magazine clips" are icky.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/2013/04/03/as-lead-sponsor-in-house-on-gun-legislation-rep-diana-degette-appears-to-not-understand-how-they-work/93506/

Russ Steele

What difference a bridge and pro business state government makes:


Interesting Facts about Needles, California


As of 2012, Needles's population is 4,844 people. Since 2000, it has had a population growth of -2.87 percent.

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The median home cost in Needles is $64,200. Home appreciation the last year has been 0.68 percent.

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Compared to the rest of the country, Needles's cost of living is 10.10% Lower than the U.S. average.

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Needles public schools spend $5,458 per student. The average school expenditure in the U.S. is $5,691. There are about 21.8 students per teacher in Needles.

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The unemployment rate in Needles is 12.10 percent(U.S. avg. is 8.60%). Recent job growth is Positive. Needles jobs have Increased by 0.28 percent.

Interesting Facts about Bullhead_City, Arizona

As of 2012, Bullhead City's population is 39,540 people. Since 2000, it has had a population growth of 15.30 percent.

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The median home cost in Bullhead City is $114,400. Home appreciation the last year has been 7.39 percent.

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Compared to the rest of the country, Bullhead City's cost of living is 7.10% Lower than the U.S. average.

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Bullhead City public schools spend $3,487 per student. The average school expenditure in the U.S. is $5,691. There are about 19.4 students per teacher in Bullhead City.

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The unemployment rate in Bullhead City is 9.50 percent(U.S. avg. is 8.60%). Recent job growth is Negative. Bullhead City jobs have Decreased by 1.11 percent.

Gregory

George, a non-paywall link for the WSJ story is here:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323646604578401783057700580.html

Ben Emery

Looks like some of Nevada County righties are looking to move to beautiful Bullhead City. See Ya.

"Capitalism will never fail. Socialism will always be there to bail it out." - Ralph Nader

Joe Koyote

We all know what the right said to war protesters, " America, love it or leave it." I think the same thing should apply to California. The left counter to love it or leave was "change it or lose it." Unfortunately neither of those happened. So here we all are fifty years later still dealing with the exact same issues, like a broken record. Not much has changed in the last half century, it has just gotten worse. The odd thing is that both the left and the right share that same sentiment. Only time will tell whose perceptions are correct and whose are not.

Michael Anderson

George, thanks so much for report on the comparison between Bullshit City, AZ and Nowheresville, CA.

Seriously? Needles? One of the stupidest places to live on the planet. Let it rot into the earth. This is an Indicator of Nothing.

Sorry, try again, Gang Who Couldn't Shoot Straight.

Michael A.

Ben Emery

JK,
I am not telling anyone to love it or leave but rather observing from the orgasmic description of how great Bullhead City, AZ of all places, is compared to California wasteland.

Account Deleted

Joe at 8:46 - " Only time will tell whose perceptions are correct and whose are not."
Ever read a history book Joe? Time has 'told', nay, fairly shouted at us what works and what doesn't. But you have your hate and prejudice as your master, so you just keep waiting for time to tell you what you want to hear. Things have not gotten worse for my family, Joe. Speak for yourself and those like you that sit in the mud and blame everyone else for their own sad lives.

Russ Steele

Drudge Report:

UNEMPLOYMENT RATE 7.6%...
Labor force at 63.3%, lowest since 1979...
JOBS UP 88,000...
Goolsbee: 'Punch to Gut'...
Cramer: 'Permanent Unemployed Level'...
ANALYSTS: January tax hikes to blame, not sequester...
DOW DROPS 100 PTS IN 60 SECONDS...

People Not In Labor Force Soar By 663,000 To 90 Million, Labor Force Participation Rate At 1979 Levels

Graphics Here: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-05/people-not-labor-force-soar-663000-90-million-labor-force-participation-rate-1979-le

fish

"Capitalism will never fail. Socialism will always be there to bail it out." - Ralph Nader


Ooooh good choice......Political gadfly and perennial loser Ralph Nader!

He's right though! Most recently in the 2008 banking crisis the government assumed banking liabilities and recapitalized (and are continuing to do so) and made the banks whole again!

Enjoy eating cat food in your retirement Ben your government has sold you out yet again!

Ben Emery

Fish,
Here is another quote from the American Hero that explains why we have a corrupt two party government that is in the business of securing wealth and power for a small few people.

The 'democracy gap' in our politics and elections spells a deep sense of powerlessness by people who drop out, do not vote, or listlessly vote for the 'least worst' every four years and then wonder why after every cycle the 'least worst' gets worse.

Ralph Nader

fish

So who did you vote for last cycle Ben? The least bad?

Ben Emery

For President? Just as I have 5 of 7 Presidential elections, and independent candidate. I left the Feinstein office empty. Myself for State Senate. Dahle for Assembly. Reed for Congress.

Fish in 2010 at a League of Women voters forum/ debate we were asked if we would like President Obama to support our campaign? I said sure but I doubt he would since I have been actively opposing his policies that I believe should be considered war crimes. Also believe he should be impeached for the violations of our civil liberties.

Joe Koyote

Scott 10:24 "But you have your hate and prejudice as your master"--What on earth are you babbling about this time? I didn't say a word about outcome. I am just curious as to whom is the more stupid, the left or the right. Your knee jerk reaction to a neutral statement suggests that perhaps it is you who might want look at yourself for hate and prejudice.
You seem to just go off on a rant of personal attack every time I post something regardless of content. I am sorry if the suggestion that the jury isn't in yet bothers your staunch views that your perceptions are the only correct ones.

Ben Emery

JK,
To Scott's "Ever read a history book?" remark. It depends on who writes the book.

"Chapter 4: Tyranny is Tyranny
http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/zinntyr4.html

"Around 1776, certain important people in the English colonies made a discovery that would prove enormously useful for the next two hundred years. They found that by creating a nation, a symbol, a legal unity called the United States, they could take over land, profits, and political power from favorites of the British Empire. In the process, they could hold back a number of potential rebellions and create a consensus of popular support for the rule of a new, privileged leadership.

When we look at the American Revolution this way, it was a work of genius, and the Founding Fathers deserve the awed tribute they have received over the centuries. They created the most effective system of national control devised in modern times, and showed future generations of leaders the advantages of combining paternalism with command.

Starting with Bacon's Rebellion in Virginia, by 1760, there had been eighteen uprisings aimed at overthrowing colonial governments. There had also been six black rebellions, from South Carolina to New York, and forty riots of various origins.

By this time also, there emerged, according to Jack Greene, "stable, coherent, effective and acknowledged local political and social elites." And by the 1760s, this local leadership saw the possibility of directing much of the rebellious energy against England and her local officials. It was not a conscious conspiracy, but an accumulation of tactical responses. "

George Rebane

BenE 1003am - A tidy little narrative of the colonial elites' perfidy. Given that it has some truth to it, I wonder why other colonies (or even autocratic nations) since then haven't been able to pull off a revolution that bequeathed its citizens the prosperity and well-being that was the inheritance of Americans and those who successfully became Americans thereafter.

Joe Koyote

Probably the most important American history book ever written was Howard Zinn's "People's History of the United States". It tells the stories the robber barons don't want you to know about how this country was born and evolved to be what it is today.

fish

Fish in 2010 at a League of Women voters forum/ debate we were asked if we would like President Obama to support our campaign? I said sure but I doubt he would since I have been actively opposing his policies that I believe should be considered war crimes. Also believe he should be impeached for the violations of our civil liberties.

Okay Ben perhaps I've jumped to an inaccurate conclusion.

Ben Emery

George,
Despite the Zinn quote the US established form of government was the best form ever devised. Just because it has had good success in many areas doesn't mean it doesn't have many problem as well. Zinn tells the history we aren't taught by the "victors" he tells history from those on the other side of the fight.

George Rebane

BenE 1226pm - your 1003am required the 1226pm addendum to make clear your point, else it sounded like the usual anti-American screed often heard from liberals and taught in our public schools. Thank you.

Ben Emery

George,
My 1003am comment wasn't trying to make any other point than history has different views depending on who is writing it and which side of history it is being told.

Gregory

"So who did you vote for last cycle Ben? The least bad?"

Fish 11:30, not the 'least bad': the 'even worse'.

I see the RudeWhineFart site is atwitter about George's account of Needles, not quite grokking how Needles started low and got even worse. With California over $100 billion in the hole before considering a few hundred billion in unfunded retirement benefits, we ain't seen nothing yet.


Paul Emery


RE: Rebane 05 April 2013 at 10:26 AM

Yes indeed George,our 19th Century coast to coast romp of plunder and pillage (taught in the schools as "manifest Destiny" did indeed lead to prosperity and freedom to those who were in the charge. Since then we have resorted to traditional imperialism to keep the cheap resources and labor flowing with mixed success. It doesn't matter much anymore since we're now cowering to the might of international corporations and financial institutions that are indeed running the show as this link illustrates.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/03/eu-trade-deal_n_2994410.html

Paul Emery

Here's a teaser

"The U.S. Chamber of Commerce has been advocating for a new trade deal between the U.S. and EU for more than a year, and President Barack Obama endorsed the project in his 2013 State of the Union address.

Since EU nations and the U.S. are already party to World Trade Organization treaties, there are relatively few tariffs that could be eliminated among the countries. In written reports, the Chamber, a lobbying group representing large corporations, has pushed for increased "regulatory compatibility" and "updated and comprehensive" investment terms to "prevent discrimination against investors" in the trade pact. The Chamber declined to discuss the deal for this article."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/03/eu-trade-deal_n_2994410.html

George Rebane

PaulE 610pm - when you emailed me this link and asked for my take, I responded as follows -

Hi Paul - I've been leery of multi-national corporations, and this seems to up the ante re their ability to operate independently or and/or end run governments. While the article is skimpy on the overall impact of the new WTO proposal, it does state that corps will have peerage in filing suits against other nation-states in WTO recognized international justice and adjudication institutions. I am basically against that entire concept. I see that kind of integration as a back door to binding together all kinds of power structures in the world - i.e. a sneaky way to promote one-worldism.

I believe that corporations are chartered under the laws of one nation-state, and that they can operate within other nation-states only under treaties forged and adopted by such nation-states. If a nation-state feels one of its corporations is being treated unfairly by another nation-state or a corporation therein/therefrom, then it has to be the first nation-state that goes to bat for its corporation using whatever adjudication instruments apply under the treaties the nation-state has entered into.

In sum, I abhor seemingly 'stateless corporations' that play fast and loose on the international scene, often pitting one nation-state against another (after all, governments are where all the dodos congregate, so that is not so hard). Corporations should be kept on a tight leash internationally. If they're worth fighting for, then it should be their chartering government that is their champion in the international arena.

Good topic.
Gjr

Paul Emery

George

Here is the irony on this. The main proponents of this trade deal is the Chamber of Commerce That's consistent with my view that they both parties are indeed the same party when it comes to catering to the ruling class. If indeed this is a step towards world government then the Chamber of Commerce is paying big bucks to insure Republican support. Republicrats? For sure


"The U.S Chamber of Commerce, which helped Republicans make big gains in the 2010 congressional elections, is planning its most aggressive push yet to send business-friendly lawmakers to Washington in the Nov. 6 election.

"Thomas Donohue, the president and CEO of the powerful business lobby (Chamber of Commerce), on Tuesday said the Chamber planned to get involved in 11 or 12 Senate races and 35 to 37 races for the House of Representatives.

"We are planning on having a good year," Donohue told hundreds of members of the U.S. small business community at a meeting in Washington.

"Yesterday, reporters asked me how much money we'll spend," he said, adding that journalists suggested the group spent $50 million in the last election cycle. "It'll be a lot of money," Donohue said, "This is a more important election than the last election."

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/chamber-commerce-gop-/2012/05/22/id/439938

George Rebane

PaulE 1258am - Agreed. To me it is disconcerting that the Republican party is such a champion of big corporations that must lean on government to survive. But as I said in my 701pm, peerage of corporations and nation-states in any form to me is anathema, especially on the international scene.

Steve Frisch

I am much more offended by the fact that the author of the update above, and George by extension endorsing it, did not know that there are only three witches in the opening scene of Macbeth, than by the inherent misogyny of use of gender as a frame to describe four female legislators George finds obnoxious.

I think it says something when the people who profess to want to protect our culture don't know their Shakespeare.

George Rebane

SteveF 957am - thank you Steve for the Shakespeare lesson. Again, a more careful read of the Prelutsky statement would have informed you that he did not claim the number of the Macbeth witches to be four, but did liken the character of the witches to those of the named legislators ("... the last time anyone saw the likes of ..."). However the "inherent misogyny of use of gender" stands for these uniquely ignorant and abrasive women in high places.

And I do believe that had these women been in public life at the penning of Macbeth, Shakespeare would have appropriately increased the count.

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