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21 October 2014

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Bill Tozer

Dr. Rebane, I would like to address your last paragraph and let others comment of the State of Ebola, save one Ebola observation. The hot bed of the Ebola outbreak in West Africa are in countries where infrastructure is poor at best and travel is difficult because of poor to non-existent roads with few dependable vehicles. Thus, with travel difficult and not easy for the residences of the affected countries, it is not a stretch to say they have in a way contained themselves and Ebola to that area. But, throw in airline travel and it will be like a spot fire jumping the containment area.

The idea of Americans souring to Big Government and it's largesse with bungling and bonehead handling of affairs is a delicious thought. There may be indeed a public mood toward a renewed Federalism. The overreach of big bro and the steady march of inefficients and waste and intrusion into our daily meat and potatoes is the catalyst, IMHO.
For several years, we have been called dinosaurs and out of touch with the new era and the libs on these pages have been quite confident that eventually we will all die off and take our Ozzie and Harriet daydreams with us to the Marble Orchard. We are old school and out of step with modern society. We are on the wrong side of the tipping point and the ship has left the harbor without us. Fair enough.

But, (there is always a but) I read a comment recently that got me thinking. The mocking comment on some blog said people on the far right want to take "us" back to the 50's. I thought what is wrong with that? Not the Beaver Cleaver days or the 50's per se, but to days with more State's rights, more individualism, less regulations, and way less Federal Overreach and the Executive Branch butting their business into our next breath.

Then the clincher hit. I have assumed that it was a lost cause, that the tipping point is now a mute point. I forgot that the only constant in life is change. Suppose the left is right now having their moment in the sun and have had their way and the public is starting to think something smells here, this ain't right. Maybe this moment in history is another sunset for the Socialist cause until it rears again. Perhaps the country is truly right of center and reasonable people can feel, see, and smell things are off track. The pendulum swings both ways. Dr. Rebane, the timing of your last paragraph is perfect. Maybe the country wants something more on the lines of the 50's that what they have been seeing and feeling in 2012-2014.

fish

Off topic but related.

Presented for the consideration of the board.

http://www.unz.com/article/the-suicide-of-a-great-nation/

An excerpt:

"To be sure, Obama suffers from not having had the kind of preparation needed to head any large organization, much less the United States government. His two-year tenure in the Senate was undistinguished and those who lampoon him as little more than an ex-community organizer are not far from the truth. Like the Lord High Executioner in the Mikado he was elevated “by a set of curious chances,” to include Republican adversaries who were considered completely toxic by large parts of the electorate.

Like his predecessor, Obama has compensated for his deficiencies by surrounding himself with cronies. Obama’s are ideologically compatible but often have even less experience than he does. But they are loyal to him personally and maintain an essentially politicized agenda that only occasionally is supportive of genuine national interests.

So Obama’s course in on the job training leaves a lot to be desired. But there is still more than that, unfortunately, because what we are seeing now is doing grave damage to our country even as constitutional liberties are stripped away and the stagnant economy offers little hope for the struggling middle and working classes."


George Rebane

BillT 747am - Good thoughts and true. Limited breadth of leftist thought does not permit the consideration of returning to the laudable parts of the 50s without bringing along the civil rights abuses, anti-gay sentiments, ... . To their minds the factors of God, country, individual liberties, entrepreneurship, ... are inseparable from the former. It is a calcified mindset carefully embedded by government schools and maintained by the lamestream.

fish 748am - Thank you for the reprise of those truths which have been part and parcel of the 'Obama alarums' that RR introduced to its readers in 2008 during the man's candidacy. We should never forget, that his lack of executive experience combined with his Marxist ideology goes a long way to explain away the disasters he has brought on the land. (The national question that continues to puzzle people like me is why the blacks, Hispanics, and Jews voted for him in such numbers; but that's a topic for another day.)

fish

Time for new sand!

Russ Steele

The Diplomad on Progressive Putrefaction

The ice caps are not melting; the snow in the Himalayas is not melting. The only thing melting is the Obama misadministration.

The Ebola mess provides the latest sign of many that this misadministration is dying right before our eyes. Like a dead Ebola victim, however, the body still presents serious dangers.

Glad to see others catching up with the ol' Diplomad on Obama and ebola (here and here, for example) and on the whole bureaucratic, corrupt, politicized government health industry and lobby.

I see lots of commentators finally realizing--Shock!--that the CDC is not full of dedicated doctors in white lab coats working for humanity. Most are politicized bureaucrats who respond to the dictates of their masters in Washington and to popular fads, e.g., global warming, and are perpetually seeking more money.

I have made the point before that liberalism/progressivism kills,
"Liberals love humanity and hate people." Oh, and by the way, liberals will get you killed. Yes, killed. Modern liberalism kills people, and does so by the millions, all in the name of humanity, of course. It should have a warning label that asks you not to practice liberalism at home, or something along the lines of "I am a trained professional, do not attempt liberalism on your own."

The current ebola fiasco is a natural outgrowth from the ideology of progressivism and the beliefs of the one-worlders now in control in the White House and the Senate.

The rest of the article is HERE.

George Rebane

fish 1001am - Your slightest wish is my wish (or is it the other way around?) ;-)

Todd Juvinall

So I guess the county is full of racists according to the leftwingnut Curtis. Here is his latest comment. Oh My! Too funny! From the FUE's blog.

"Curtis Walker says:
October 21, 2014 at 10:11 am

The local right idiots are an embarrassment. They want to be a tourist destination but their stink keeps both folks from visiting or buying a home here. I am here in my second decade and folks still ask why I would want to live in that racist place. Fear of coming for a dam visit is a big reality. If there is heaven and hell after death, there will surly be a special wing for Tea Party and other right fools. REST IN PEACE surely does not apply to the pathetic haters. The JERK factor is huge. So as long as they walk in our beautiful part of the world, they are little to be discarded and ignored, except to counter their brainwashing of others and elections."


Joe Koyote

Are you also going to blame Reagan for AIDS? He ignored the problem for years because it "was a gay problem." Is Ebola a black person's problem? Trying to put the blame on Obama and progressives/liberals is totally insane. How do you guys dream up this crap?

"The current ebola fiasco is a natural outgrowth from the ideology of progressivism and the beliefs of the one-worlders now in control in the White House and the Senate." This has got to be one of the most stupid things I have ever heard anyone say! How can you politicize an epidemic? If you want to blame someone, blame the capitalists who built the trans-african highway right through the Ebola Valley where infectious viruses are born and die almost hourly. Someone once claimed that the highway was the most significant technological impact of the 20th century, including the computer, just for the reasons we are now seeing come to pass.

Todd Juvinall

Sorry JoeK, you are simply spreading the myth about Reagan. He started the money flowing for the problem of AIDS and you just showed us how ignorant you are.

Ebola is a death sentence when you get it. Obama has it in his power to impose a travel ban until things calm down. But what has he done? Sent our young people over to the countries where they can get the virus. That is treason in my view.

George Rebane

JoeK 1023am - The poor reading skills of the Left are evident again (and it is they who created the 'spend more, learn less' government schools). My email of the FUE's latest blast at RR this morning demonstrates that he and his understand almost nothing of what is discussed here. For the record, nowhere have I blamed Obama for the Ebola epidemic in West Africa. But I and other observers have pointed out the ineptness with which the government in general and the Obama administration in particular have mishandled public health policies to combat Ebola in the US. I offer my reasoning for why this is the case. However, as usual such ponderings are beyond the liberals' ability to parse. It is what it is.

(Bad practice to use unattributed quotes.)

Bill Tozer

Ok, if you want to blame AIDS and Ebola on something, I present this for your consideration. Both deadly viruses can be traced back to cultures that eat monkeys. That's right; monkey meat. This is not a red state, blue state issue. This is a monkey meat issue and that is where the blame should be placed. No more eating monkeys for me I tell ya.

fish

So I guess the county is full of racists according to the leftwingnut Curtis. Here is his latest comment. Oh My! Too funny! From the FUE's blog.

Curtis is a real person? I thought for sure he was one of jeffys dimmer sock puppets.

fish

Posted by: Joe Koyote | 21 October 2014 at 10:23 AM

Oh and JoKe...sometimes you are so willfully stupid that you barely merit a response....this is one of those times.

George Rebane

A reader reminded me again that America's difficulty in imposing travel and entry bans is based more on political correctness and fear of being accused of racism by our Left, than on science. In a linked story we read "African countries, unburdened by any such racial guilt, have not hesitated to impose travel bans; Nigeria’s travel restrictions are now being credited for its escape from an Ebola incursion."
http://www.city-journal.org/2014/eon1021hm.html

Gregory

"The poor reading skills of the Left are evident again (and it is they who created the 'spend more, learn less' government schools)."

George, I think you have that completely wrong... I expect Jeff Pelline knew exactly what you wrote but chooses to misuse his degree in Rhetoric in order to twist words to make the point he wants people to take away. Not poor reading skills, a lie, by someone highly trained in the language.

I'm assured Rhetoric isn't a basketweaving degree at UC Berkeley, and most choosing it for baccalaureate studies go into law. I'd not be surprised if that's what Jeff intended, but graduate schools of journalism are easier to get into than law schools.

Joe Koyote

Toad 10:49 -- Try reading the book "And the Band Played On" which clearly documents Reagan's ineptitude with regard to the spread of aids.. that is if you can really read and comprehend something beyond a comic book.

George: The Republican controlled house cut $1.5b from the CDC during the sequester nonsense. Obama asked for $1b to combat ebola.. congress gave him $50m left over from Iraq. I am not claiming that you blamed Obama for the outbreak in Africa as Russ seems to blame liberals, but you seem to be claiming that somehow the American response is lacking and that rests in the lap of the President. My point is that politicizing a dangerous health issue right before an election reeks of partisan BS. This could be a serious problem and should be taken as such and not used as a political football that, based on the track record of Republicans, if they are successful, will only exacerbate the problem by their lack of concern for the common man and their dedication to the robber barons.

Carp-- you seem to relish attacking other folks responses (person) without ever offering up your own ideas for consideration/dissection. You ring hollow at best most of the time.

Todd Juvinall

JoeK, the book you cite is crap. Also, your real name is not Joe Koyote, but by manipulating my real name to try and denigrate are just too childish. What a hoot. Reagan is not to blame for AIDS and its spread. Homosexual men are. You are just ignorant.

fish

Posted by: Joe Koyote | 22 October 2014 at 10:37 AM

What ideas would you have me put forward? The issue was the slow and inept response that George (as well as myself and others) saw emanating from the White House...not to mention the dubious proposal that it was just dandy that "folks" (there's that word again) entering from areas where the disease had established a foothold.

If you have gripes about the Reagan response to AIDS I'm all ears.

George Rebane

JoeK 1037am - That is a very cynical accusation since the sequester was an across-the-board cut compromise that hit all government agencies. I take it back, it's not a 'very cynical accusation', it's bullshit. Here's what really happened, and it's a matter of the federal record not spin (aka lies).
http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/14/obama-planned-to-cut-cdc-budget-for-public-health-preparedness-and-response/

Gregory 1027am - It was just another one of my clumsy attempts to be generous. Apologies.

Joe Koyote

George: The Daily Caller is hardly a credible source. I love it how you quote and use for sources all of these right wing blogs and websites and then cry about the inaccuracies of the "leftist" media. It is a well known fact that for every possible bone of contention there is a right wing propaganda site that provides the necessary "information" to support right wing ideas and causes from climate change, to WMDs, to Benghazi. Daily Caller (started by Tucker Carlson) is just another example of the right wing noise machine in action. The fact that sequester was, as you claim, "an across the board cut compromise" doesn't change the fact that CDC had their funds cut and this could turn out very bad. Across the board cuts are a stupid and senseless way to approach government, unless the purpose thereof is to put forward Grover Norquist's "starve the beast" scenario.

George Rebane

JoeK 1005am - Nice change of subject Joe, but recall your 1037am charge was that Republicans did a selective cutting of the CDC budget. And as usual, a liberal always claims that "funds were cut" for this or that program/agency when in fact they were increased, but not to the extent that you and yours wanted.

And yes, the Daily Caller is a conservative blog the posts of which you dismiss on their face. Since your leftwing news outlets never inform you of these matters of public record, you may be forgiven for not knowing about the source, extent, and effects of the bipartisan sequester. Sail on, in surety of purpose and unafraid!

Keen Observer

Joe, not a big fan of "starve the beast", but I think you can agree that when it comes to government, more funding does not necessarily equate to better results. In fact, "government efficiency" is perhaps the best example of an oxymoron in the English language. This fact holds true regardless of the party steering the chariot.

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