Sandbox - 12nov14

[With my luck in seeding past sandbox conversation - the chutzpah of that guy! - I must needs float this one a capella.  Pardon me while I sulk off into a dark corner to reel in my lower lip.  gjr]

Comments

[fish]

Oh my....manboobs is on a rant about poor Mr. Crabb again.... evidently jeffy thinks that there are plotters, wreckers and agents everywhere.....all out to foil his peaceful life in the sierra foothills..... miffed that he has been cast in a less than flattering light yet again.

Evidently R.L. is some sort of "agent" from an organization referred to in hushed tones as "The Union" that has been dispatched to torment him because is wasn't born in your hallowed hills and is little more than a flatlander infidel.

I too have been outed as a paid agent of the Koch Brothers (by both the spherical Former editor himself during a Chardonnay and self pity fueled Sunday night rant and rabblerousing local canine JoKe) those shadowiest of fascistic industrialists trying to recreate early 1900's Austro-Hungary right here in "Murica". I can only assume that George Rebane is some sort of sleeper double agent from behind the former Iron Curtain who was activated and instructed to form a "Hard Right" cadre to both monitor and suppress all the good works the a former editor might perform for the simple hill people while simultaneously deflecting attention from his nefarious plans by any curious locals. Greg Goodknight is a covert NSA agent who uses his computer acumen to sow dissent among the local gentry and their affiliated sock puppets! He was the agent who finally discovered the connection between jeffy and the mysterious "Annie Fox".....ironically the connection did indeed turn out to be jeffys wrist after all! Poor Greg was scarred for life after witnessing things utterly unspeakable! Todd very clearly is fronting Military Intelligence! Ben Emery seems to do reconnaissance work for the Peace Corps....I assume he is here merely as an observer and wasn't sent to annoy jeffy intentionally….he does on occasion but only inadvertantly. Frisch... it's obvious isn't it....he is a control agent working on behalf of "The Junior League" using innocent highway median beautification projects to distribute non-subversive literature and plant non listening devices. Paul Emery is of course the spy who didn't know enough to come in when it got cold!

Carefully jeffy.....remember....you need to keep your friends close and.....wait.....never mind!

And don't get me started about our evil plot to spoil this years bumper chili fries crop!

Alas.......perhaps I've said too much!

He's right you know...you just can't make this stuff up!

...or can you!?

[Walt]

OK,, I'm hiking my leg over in this corner of the sand box and mark my territory.

To pick up where I left off,, first I need to bury the steaming pile of crap Ben left
in the other SB. ( He sure knows how to smell up the joint.)
Those with money hire those who need it. Those who have a good idea to better themselves barrow money they don't have from those who do, in the hopes of making a better life for themselves, and hire other people to make that dream come true. Welcome to capitalism.
The Constitution (have you read it yet?) guarantees equal opportunity. (did you get that far into it?) Do point out where it guarantees equal outcome.( hint... It don't.)

It was the risk taking rich guys who built this country. More than many lost all in the process. There as no government guy to give them a hanky and a check to make their losses magically come back.( unlike today if they have friends in D.C.)

America has been the land of risk and reward.( That's real capitalism)
Government didn't get or fund the Wright Brothers to build the first airplanes. Yes, Those guys built that. ( they had a dream and a desire.) Government didn't put them in the bicycle business. But later one pushed regulations on them and all to follow.
Sam Colt? Smith and Wesson? What grants or subsidies did the "G" man give them?
In today's world,,, look what government overstep did. State governments ( Colorado, Virginia and N.Y.) regulated gun business right out of the states. Those guys pulled up stakes and went to other states.

Yup, someone with money just gave ME a job. Not the bum on the corner with a cardboard sign.

[Walt]

DAMN!! RL,,, looking for a "contract" to be put on ya'? Just read the latest off your page.
He still hasn't recovered from the "Cartman" piece.. Now this? I have a "stock"tip for ya' my friend. Invest in Kevlar. He is going to nut up for sure. ( Todd take take the ribbing)

[Walt]

Hell just froze over! Look what came out of the 9TH !!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/12/new-court-decision-likely-ends-california-restrictions-on-conceal-carry-permits/

[Bill Tozer]

Fish, nobody is perfect no matter how big and powerful they tell themselves and others they are. Brother Ben got me thinking. We should evoke within ourselves more empathy for the less fortunate. If having empathy (feeling what another is feeling) is too difficult, then perhaps a little sympathy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JUqJUH55zxQ

just kidding. Screw the fat bastard that has more Chins than a Chinese phonebook. Chili ribs, anyone?

[Todd Juvinall]

I just get a kick out of being in the heads rent free of Crabb and Pelline. What a hoot!

[Ben Emery]

Someone made the glib comment that Zinn would write about "poor" Germans. Once again talking out of ones arse seems to be par for the course.

Howard Zinn was a bomber in WWII and it was experiences that gave him a different perspective on war. He experienced the evils of war, bombing campaigns to settle past grudges with allies, and having to test out new weaponry for future combat missions. Those who "lost" in WWII and every conflict are the innocent people who lost their lives for acts or deeds of people much higher in the power circles and economic classes.

Excerpts from a review of his last book "The Bomb"

"Delivered to the publisher one month before his death, The Bomb falls into the latter category. In it, Zinn puts two essays side by side, one entitled "Hiroshima, breaking the silence", the other "The bombing of Royan". As a young man eager to be demobbed, Zinn recalls celebrating the dropping of the atomic bomb; it meant the end of a war he did not wish to return to. He had taken part in the bombing of the French town of Royan just three months earlier. The essays revisit that unthinking celebration and desire to follow orders of those months in 1945. Using historical evidence, it also argues that neither mission was necessary and asks what prompted military action that would transcended military logic and moral sensibilities.

Like Zinn, I have changed my mind over the need and glory of war. Leaving Quaker school at 17, I wanted to be a fighter pilot. But travelling the world on my bicycle, I came to the same realisation as Zinn – that there is no "them", but only a global "us". I will gladly say that changing one's mind is not and should not be seen as a sign of weakness, as it so often is for politicians, but of creative reflection."

"In these particular cases – especially the destruction of Royan, which was actually inhabited by allies rather than enemies, Zinn argues that motives of military pride, experimentation of new technology (napalm was used for the first time at Royan) and the desire for revenge outweighed the facts that none of it was strategically necessary – the port was a sideshow which posed no threat to the rapid advance of the allies towards Berlin in June 1945."

"That said, the very "evils" that the war was meant to defeat was implicit in the actions of the allies. All of the allied powers had records of colonisation and all had previously invaded other countries for their own good, as they then complained of Germany or Japan doing. All defended their empires against independence movements in the years following 1945. All ultimately carried out military action that killed thousands and thousands of civilians. Blanket bombing in Dresden was described by Churchill as a "heavy raid". At the time, racism in the US underpinned the social system as much as it fuelled the rhetoric to go to war against Japan and Germany. In this sense too, less happily, "they" were actually just like "us". Yet, the rhetoric of war relies on "them" being seen as lesser.

The Bomb is not an easy book to read in places, given the accounts of the suffering inflicted by the bombings. It is one that will infuriate many..."

[Bill Tozer]

BB, Tanks a rock for the chuckles. You are on a roll. Global, global, global. Children are being abandoned in Rio, becoming orphans to fend for themselves at the landfills. People are begging for two grains of rice in Calcutta. Women are having their lips cut off for wearing lipstick in the former Persian Empire, known today as Iran. Murders of black people by black people in Chicago and New Orleans is a national scandal with no end in sight. Let us know how your fight against global injustice is going when you return from those places. After all, they are all your constituents, each and every one of them. Glad your fighting for them was produced fruit and you have relieved some of their suffering. Not all, but some as you have got down and dirty in the stink and fought for them, for us, for global justice. Thank you! Thank you and a big thanks for sharing. Tanks, tanks a rocket.

[Gregory]

Ben, why not post something about a book *you* have read and have a cogent, original and relevant thought to share, rather than wholesale quotes from an obscure (authored by one Ben Pink Dandilion) review The Guardian printed a few years ago?

Like Zinn, I have changed my mind over the need and glory of war. Leaving Quaker school at 17, I wanted to be a fighter pilot. But travelling the world on my bicycle, I came to the same realisation as Zinn – that there is no "them", but only a global "us".

Looks like Zinn and the reviewer were both reality challenged at a young age; "glory of war"? I thought most outgrew that by puberty. I'm also a bit puzzled by the only global "us", claim; I would think a Pole witnessing the blitzkrieg in '39 would have a different view. In any case, worldwide, there are about as many Quakers as there are registered Libertarians in the US and I can't say I've ever been infuriated by one.

Now, when do you go away as promised?

[Walt]

Now Ben. Hear of ISIS? What's your chances of keeping your head if you tried to "talk some sense" of peace and harmony into them? The odds on bet,, you would be the next youtube video. It's "us or them" since the dawn of time. Progressiveness and peacnickville will never change that. Even Dear old Russia is back on the war path will continental domination in mind. N Korea would flood over the boarder if our troops were not there.
Nope,, war is a nasty deal, and a necessary evil. Good thing you live in the U.S. with all it's protections. Only here can you be a pacifist without becoming a slave or mass grave filler.

[Walt]

This should make Ben's night. Look who plans of prowling around in our back yard.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/russias-bombers-conduct-regular-patrols-ranging-arctic-gulf-140627703.html

Feel a lot safer with Russian bombers loaded with "training" nukes lurking just into international airspace? This is what nutless Progressivism has brought.

[Bill Tozer]

Now Walt, Obama is a liberal, not a progressive. Perhaps you meant "that is what nut less Liberalism has brought." Whatz up with all this bad blood between the liberals and progressives lately. Noticed it right after the recent mid-terms. Seems like just two sides of the same coin to me. They are all pinkos no matter which rock they crawled out from under.

[George Rebane]

BenE 902pm - no disrespect meant toward Zinn the historian, but there were neither advancing allies nor "no threat to the rapid advance of the allies towards Berlin in June 1945." The war had ended on 7 May 1945 and Berlin was firmly in the Red Army's hands.

[fish]

Plucked from todays headlines.....

REPORT CARD: School named for Barack Obama 'fails to meet expectations'...

Living up to its namesake then!

[fish]

OMG! jeffy is sockpuppeting himself.....

jeffpelline says:

November 13, 2014 at 7:04 am

BTW, now here’s a guy The Union ought to hire instead: “Horace Georgeman,” George’s parody on Facebook. He’s a pretty perceptive guy:

If you see him in town, whatever else you do....don't shake hands!

[Account Deleted]

"Howard Zinn was a bomber in WWII and it was experiences that gave him a different perspective on war." Different from whose perspective?
Apparently Ben just now got around to reading about WWII instead of watching John Wayne war movies. The only folks that 'glorify' war are the same ones that glorify gore, murder, incest, adulterous behavior and all sorts of anti-social activities.
Some of us 'glorify' the bravery of those who put their lives on the line to protect the safety of our nation.
Putin is now marching his army into a neighboring sovereign nation.
He apparently thinks war does have a purpose. Funny how folks don't all think the same.

[fish]

Thank god that Jonathan Gruber conned those dumb Americans who really haven't a clue as to what's good for them!

http://www.usatoday.com/longform/news/nation/2014/11/12/rural-hospital-closings-federal-reimbursement-medicaid-aca/18532471/

(File this under Agenda 21 George.....the migration of the rural to the suburbs and cities in order to retain access to hospitals.)

[George Rebane]

fish 1004am - Yes, that along with many other 'gruber goodies' coming down the pike are like items on a checklist first published under the UN's Agenda 21 initiative. But there is no progressive who can or will connect those dots. In the meantime we continue to be subjected to 'smart growth' along with 'sustainable' this or that, mandated by new laws, ordinances, govt 'nudges', etc designed to get us into a more readily controllable 'stack and pack' configuration. Good pick up Mr fish.

[Walt]

I wonder what our local ECO loons have to say about the "good deal""O" bargained us for?
China can pump out all the pollutants it likes for decades to come, while we are forced to makeup the cleaner difference.

[Gregory]

Seven weeks 'till Californians start paying a carbon tax when they pump gas into the car they need to pay for the Train they won't use.

[Walt]

LIBS go from one lying SOB to be leader to an even bigger one.
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/11/elizabeth-warren-harry-reid-senate-leadership-112847.html

[Walt]

I stand corrected. Dementia Reid geeps his loser job.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/11/13/Senate-Democrats-vote-for-Reid-as-minority-leader

[Russ Steele]

How the Chinese view their own climate agreement

Both sides put out their joint statement, the U.S. issuing it via the White House and China releasing it through the official Xinhua News Agency. But whereas one side gave it a high gloss, the other seemed to be trying to bury it under the rug. The top story on the website affiliated with the Communist Party flagship paper The People’s Daily was about Xi and Obama meeting the press – but the article made no reference to the climate agreement. Other stories on the homepage touched on the climate statement but tended to relegate it to the latter half of the article, and omitted the American-style superlatives. The popular Beijing News, a state-run paper known for gently testing the editorial boundaries, also didn’t mention the climate deal in its Nov. 12 cover story on the APEC meeting that brought Obama to China. It focused instead on the meeting’s anti-corruption accord and progress on plans for a pan-Asian free trade zone spearheaded by China.

Here is one reason why:

Beijing is under fire domestically for its unsuccessful efforts to curb local air pollution, noting that people were furious that authorities managed to clear the air for the visiting APEC dignitaries but can’t do it on a daily basis for their own citizens. ” There may be worries that focusing on climate change rather than air pollution doesn’t meet the public’s main concerns,” Seligsohn said via email.

That is all from a good piece by Alexa Olesen at Foreign Policy. http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/11/12/china_us_climate_deal_enthusiasm_gap?

H/T to Tyler Cowen at the Marginal Revolution

[Walt]

Some may recall a given aircraft I have mentioned cutting holes in the skies above PV for hours on end. I just tripped over another possibility of those "training" flights.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/americans-cellphones-targeted-in-secret-u-s-spy-program-1415917533?tesla=y&mg=reno64-wsj

[fish]

Joe Koyote says:

November 13, 2014 at 3:08 pm

I think Russ is a sincere person in his beliefs, but, in my humble opinion, he tends to rely too heavily on corporate sponsored right wing think tanks and blogs for his information, much like George Boardman or so it seems based on some of the columns he has written.

Yes....much better to get your information from thoroughly vetted, unbiased and fully authorized government sources like Jonathan Gruber.

[Walt]

Well fish,, Joe has stated he never deals in facts, and refuses to look at any.

[Account Deleted]

Gregory at 11:10 - Now, now. That train is needed 'infrastructure'.
Think how much faster we could have had powered flight if the Wright Bros had been able to zoom to the dunes of Kitty Hawk from Ohio in a Bullet Train. Course they would have been waiting a coupla' of decades to get the thing built. Once the California Pork Barrel Special is chugging along, you'll be able to get from Fresno to Bakersfield in 10 minutes less than if you were so stupid as to take your car that you needed to have to get to Fresno in the first place. And the cost will be greater, but it won't matter, since you'll be spending a lot more in Bakersfield for a taxi ride or car rental, since the train station in Bakersfield wasn't where you wanted to go in the first place. And DiFi's husband needs the millions anyway. And anyone who's against Brown's folly is just jealous cause they didn't get the Lionel train they wanted for Christmas when they were a kid.

[Walt]

AH Yes.. The Brown Streak special. From nowhere to nowhere,, and you get nowhere fast.
And powered by Ivanpaw power. Check the weather before boarding. One cloud and an unscheduled pit stop in another part of nowhere.

[Bill Tozer]

Gentlemen. The carbon tax set to raise the price at the pump is not just for paying for the Cow Pie to Button Willows to Bakersfield bullet train. Nay, my good fellows. The revenue generating has been earmarked for the choo-choo AND low income housing. Hate to correct those who are much more informed than moi, but the pump jack is for the bullet train and stack and pack, sillies.

[Joe Koyote]

Here are some facts Walt -- At the end of the first 6 years of Reagan's administration unemployment was 7.1% .. under Obama 6.1%.. During that same time period the stock market rose 190% under Reagan and 220% under Obama. Under Reagan the deficit rose.. under Obama the deficit shrunk. According to an article in Forbes, Obama has "out performed President Reagan in all commonly watched categories." Question.. if Obama is so bad.. just how bad does that make Reagan?

[fish]

Here are some facts Walt -- At the end of the first 6 years of Reagan's administration unemployment was 7.1% .. under Obama 6.1%.. During that same time period the stock market rose 190% under Reagan and 220% under Obama. Under Reagan the deficit rose.. under Obama the deficit shrunk. According to an article in Forbes, Obama has "out performed President Reagan in all commonly watched categories." Question.. if Obama is so bad.. just how bad does that make Reagan?

My what a gullible little Canis Latrans!

In January 1981 the Civilian Labor Participation Rate was 63.9% in climbed steadily throughout both Reagans terms. Unemployment peaked at about 10% a year after he took office and then fell steadily to 5.4% at the end of his second term. Sugar Frosted Barry O's inherited an unemployment rate resulting from the banking/real estate debacle of 7.8% that very quickly rose to 10% (This was largely out of his control.) and has been falling slowly and ended at just under 6% according to the last available FRED numbers. His unemployment rate has benefitted significantly from a steadily dropping labor force participation rate. You see after you've been out of the work for a while Uncle Barry figures that you really prefer it that way and kicks you off the labor force rolls to make the numbers look better!

Reagan also didn't have 8 to 17 trillion of freshly minted money desperately chasing return in the only place money can go when bond yields turn to shit....Wall Street!

I had no idea you were such a booster for the 1% JoKe!

[Account Deleted]

OK Joe - all good questions. Let's see, what percentage of the adult American population was working full time with benies under Reagan vs Obama? What percentage of the American population is now on food stamps now vs Reagan? How much did the natl debt go up with Obama vs Reagan? What was the GINI index under Reagan vs now?
Nice try, Joe. Maybe you'll do better next time.
Joe thinks Obama is dreamy because the slicksters made a lot of fast money in the QE one and two based balloon economy.

[Account Deleted]

Fish and I were writing the same thing and he types faster. Beat me by a minute!

[Todd Juvinall]

JoeK is a Koolaid drinker. Nothing to see here, move along.

[Walt]

Thanks guys for setting Joe straight. Let me add a little. More people are on the dole than ever before. ( that would be food stamps Joe) Now do a little homework on what's called the "U" index. ( U-4,U-6,8 etc.) It's the numbers used to calculate just how to play the unemployment percentage. In realville unemployment is well over 13%. Not the "look at what I did" feel good sucker numbers.
You didn't get the tag JoKe for nutt'n. BTW how do you like being branded "stupid" by your own kind? ( Mr. Obummercare, MIT, idiot genius.)
Funny thing about the academia book worms. What looks good on paper, NEVER works in the real world. Just because someone wrote a book, and it "says so" somewhere in it. doesn't make it so.
Kind of like what today's Progressive has done. Nice job of revisionism trying to brand Republicans as the slave owners of the South, and the party of the KKK.
Sorry chum, that's the good ol' boy Southern Democrats. Nope, your side will never get away with that. But they did a good job of selling that to the uneducated minorities.
No wonder LIBS (in power) want to keep them that way.

[Bill Tozer]

Sandbox readers: How about some Chicago Blues.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-smug-obama-administration-duped-public-perspec-1114-20141113-story.html

[Joe Koyote]

It really doesn't take very much to stir up the peanut gallery. Just like shooting Carp in a barrel (pun intended). You can count on it every time. If the Republicans win the White House in 2016 will you all support "re-education centers" where liberal do-gooders will be retrained to be right wing corporate stooges like yourselves?

[fish]

Posted by: Joe Koyote | 14 November 2014 at 09:37 AM

I like you JoKe....you are a stone cold straw man killer!

Did you check out those FRED numbers.....?

And hey.....what is an ardent "man of the left" like yourself doing defending a corporate stooge like Obama?

[Account Deleted]

Obama's 'transformation' of America is just about complete:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/giving-up-40-women-28-men-39-youth-dont-want-a-job/article/2556177
Another 2 years with his pen and telephone and we're all set.
Not to worry - wealth comes from the govt and lord knows we're gonna have even more of that.

[fish]

stevefrisch says:

November 14, 2014 at 9:29 am

The circle of stupid is always there, waiting, biding its time, breath[e] bated, to pounce.

You are absolutely 100% correct.

Now....shouldn't you be out grant hustling like any modern progressive?

[Todd Juvinall]

Frisch and Joe Koyote are cut from the same cloth of course. Joe Koyote and Frisch and Gruber. All the same kind of elitist types. Of course Frisch failed to pay the employee taxes on his restaurant to the tune of $250,000 or so and the place was shuttered and liened by every level of government. But he is not stupid in his wn opinion.

JoeK probably is a taker of the makers money since he refuses to tall us where he works so as with Gruber, his kindred spirit, he has probably never worked and met a payroll. I enjoy the irony of these libs when they fail and blame everyone else except themselves. Too funny!

[Todd Juvinall]

Oh and I was directed to a comment on the Pelline blog by Michael Anderson. He was congratulating Ben Emery on his ability to gain our sympathy for his health issues while smacking us with his political philosophy. I though it was real that Ben Emery was ill but it appears he was funning us.

Thanks MA for telling us the truth just like your new hero Gruver has. What a hoot!

[fish]

And hey.....what is an ardent "man of the left" like yourself doing defending a corporate stooge like Obama?

I'm guessing JoKe is now catatonic with faint wisps of smoke seeping from his ears. Sucks when the ideology is 180 degrees out from reality!

[George Rebane]

JoeK 937am - The historical record is complete with over a century of the Left's collectivist governments operating "re-education centers" (many where failure to be re-educated was a death sentence). Today re-education centers have been installed in America by our cadres of politically correct socialists, centers to which ideologically errant citizens, corporate employees, public service workers, etc are routinely remanded to attend in order to have their brains made more 'sensitive' to recognize and follow today's newly emergent party line. Pray where is there an equivalent establishment or program that has ever been set up by anyone hewing to any form of conservative/libertarian values or ideology?

We need not ask where you and yours generate such questions out of whole cloth. Saul Alinsky, the ideological mentor of your messiah, laid it all down in his Rules for Radicals where a paramount dictum is to always volubly accuse the other of your own methods and misdeeds.

[fish]

Michael Anderson says:

November 14, 2014 at 9:13 am

I can’t help but notice that “the circle of stupid” seems to have lost a bit of its inherent nastiness during the past few weeks. I am attributing that to Ben Emery finally being able to “pierce the hatred” by putting a human face on his political beliefs by also revealing his current health ordeal. Good work Ben, and I hope your path to recovery is successful and quick.

Not at all Michael! Traditionally the right...the older right anyway.. has been the side that displays mercy when an opponent falls. Nobless Oblige and all that!

The left...your side.... generally harries the opposition unto death! Can't let any lingering "wrongthink" remain and put reactionary notions in the heads of the less enlightened.

I don't know how you concluded that Ben, "putting a human face on his political beliefs" left anyone convinced. Ben was wished well when he announced his winter departure with most eagerly awaiting the next engagement.

[Gregory]

Thanks for pointing that out, Todd. I made a point to treat Ben's writing based on its own lack of merit irrespective of his health status; does that mean I'm not in what Michael Anderson (aka Clientworks, a tiny computer services company in Nevada City) called the "circle of stupid" (i.e. this blog) in that post?

Gruber is inner circle elite, PhD, MIT prof; Frisch, Koyote, Anderson, Pelline and especially Ben E. are merely useful idiot voter wannabee elites on the fringe.

[fish]

You guys don't really believe the Ben was lying about his condition? You can say what you want about his politics but that just isn't his "speed"!

[RL Crabb]

Todd's so stupid he probably believes that Ben is really a Pelline sock puppet, just like everyone else that doesn't agree with him.

[Walt]

OK,, I need some help here. Who is a boxing fan here? I came up with a postcard of Luther McCarty when he died at his last fight. Not much on the net about it.

[Gregory]

"Saul Alinsky, the ideological mentor of your messiah, laid it all down in his Rules for Radicals where a paramount dictum is to always volubly accuse the other of your own methods."

George, Carl Jung's writings on projection predate Alinsky by a wide margin. Think pathology, not methodology in this case.

[George Rebane]

Gregory 1139am - Not sure I understand your bringing Carl Jung and his timeframe into my citing of Alinsky's teachings re Obama and today's Left.

[Todd Juvinall]

My goodness Crabb. You need to grow up. What a hoot!

[Walt]

It's finally been deployed.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-11-14/u-s-navy-deploys-its-first-laser-weapon-in-the-persian-gulf.html

[RL Crabb]

Grow up, Todd? I've read your comments here for the past four years, and you've shown about as much maturity as an under average fourth grader. You have the empathy of a fence post, and it's not hard to believe you would accuse Ben Emery of lying about his health. You're a real piece of work, hootman.

[Todd Juvinall]

RL Crabb, apparently you did not read Michael Anderson's post where he originated the point. You seem to be unable to grasp anything very difficult and you have proved that substance abuse in one's youth has made you a laughingstock in this community. I would suggest you try therapy. What a hoot!

[Todd Juvinall]

You give me such great material. Thanks!

[Joe Koyote]

And hey.....what is an ardent "man of the left" like yourself doing defending a corporate stooge like Obama? --

Who is defending Obama? I was just passing on information from Forbes Mag. that was sure to light up the boys' dander.

[fish]

Posted by: Joe Koyote | 14 November 2014 at 12:34 PM

Nice! Way to live up to your internet handle!

From your entry on Wikipedia.....

....it was reviled in Anglo-American culture as a cowardly and untrustworthy animal.

[RL Crabb]

Ya know, Toddy, if you were to quit the Republican party, their collective IQ would rise about fifteen points. You should consider it your patriotic duty.

[Todd Juvinall]

Yeah RL Crabb, I should. My IQ is 162 which is about 60 more than yours. You are too funny. Hey, just wondering. You slam me for what you say I am not showing "empathy" for others yet your life and jobs is of making fun and drawing cartoons slamming everyone. Isn'y there a little bit of hypocrisy there? Anyway, I give you a break since your gray matter has been diminished by substances I can only imagine. I think maybe Pelline has you right! What a hot!

[Walt]

Seems "O" is dead set on letting untold numbers of illegals get a free pass.
His own nuke option to ruin the country. Let the jobs they take belong to LIBS.
Hope you know Spanish when ordering at any given fast food joint.
Those LIB collage kids who do need a job to get through school will have a fun time finding one.
Next dope picking season the "trimigrants" are going to get undercut and out of a job.
The illegals will do it for half the cost.

Those illegals who can't find work will "work" the night shift. Stealing anything that isn't nailed down, or locked up tighter than a bulls ass in fly season.

[Todd Juvinall]

Walt, maybe the Tea Party could put together a Million Unemployed Man March on the White House and ask for his resignation as a foreign operative?

[Paul Emery]

Crabb

You've got to give Todd a break because he suffers from BRS syndrome which explains why he was unable to enlist in the military during his much beloved Viet Nam war. BRS also leads to the dreaded PNG complex which is on public display in this blog.

[Todd Juvinall]

Hey the old Vietnam dodger POaul Emery is at it again. Paul, I don't think Crabb volunteered so you are insulting him as well. I think you may have lost a few gray matter cells from over indulgence. Too funny!

[Paul Emery]

Sure Todd. That's a typical BRS Syndrome response. I spent six month active duty and weekend and summer duty for six years. How many days did you spend in uniform?

[Walt]

Look what I found.. A Lefty who has come to his senses and says so.
Maybe the other LIBS here will take the word of one of their own. ( or just call him a traitor)
http://online.wsj.com/articles/burke-beu-this-democrat-is-giving-up-on-obamacare-1415919619

[Walt]

So Paul was a weekend worrier. Contentious objector status?

[Todd Juvinall]

Yes Walt, he said he was a Vietnam dodger by staying in country. You just can't make this stff up. Actually, he has never produced proof he was in the service and judging by his endless fibbing on politics and his BDS he may be fibbing that too. What a hoot.

[Walt]

I do feel sorry for those that got drafted. They didn't have a choice. Democrats have shown they can't fight wars to win them. Nam was a prime example. I do have the highest respect for those that volunteered.

[Todd Juvinall]

So do I but for some reason Paul Emery doesn't like anyone who didn't.

[Larry Wirth]

Like Paul, I also joined the reserves (in 1965) to avoid being drafted because I was failing at UCLA. 6 months training then weekend warrior status for three years. Then, to help HH, LBJ called 120,000 of us up for further active duty. I was lucky to wind up at headquarters, Berlin for the next 18 months- good duty and I'm glad for it. All up, 6 years in the Army.
George, an ROTC guy, also, no doubt, spent 6 years in service. No one should ever join the reserve thinking it's a way out of serving! Sometimes, it's about timing your service. I think mandatory service for all males would be a very good idea- see Switzerland and Israel- it does a lot to increase one's sense of responsibility.

[Larry Wirth]

Todd, it would increase your communication skills immeasurably if you would stop ending every post with "too funny;" sounds too much like a 'valley girl.' it's not funny and makes you look like an illiterate. Also, it would be nice if all of us could pay more attention to spelling and grammar, as our host does.

[Bill Tozer]

Good morning readers. Looks like Gruber is being thrown under the bus. Don't know why. He seems like a candid fellow with a lot of smarts. Nancy says he did not write the bill. The White House (La Casa de Blanco) says he did not craft the bill. All say he did not work for them. Well, he may have not been on anyone's payroll, but he sure got paid a heck of a lot of pesos for hanging around in those smoke filled rooms.

http://www.examiner.com/article/gruber-admits-obama-was-present-when-obamacare-deception-occurred

[Bill Tozer]

How many liberals live in New York City? Experts disagree, but I reckon there are a lot in The Big Apple.

http://m.wsj.net/video/20141114/111414rats/111414rats_v2_ec464k.mp4

[fish]

Refining in Richmond: UC Berkeley J-School reporters surpass Chevron “news” site

Posted on November 15, 2014

Yeah....it's inspiring to watch "real" journalists hard at work.

[Todd Juvinall]

Larry Wirth, thanks for the advice. Trouble is I am an illerate. High school, some college, lousy at English wriiting and spelling. I use too funny or what a hoot because those that attack me personally (and think they are the cat's meow)can keep it up all they want and I simply find it amusing.

My life has been a gas. Raised a family, ran abd was elected fo public office, built 60 homes, started and maintained a popular "Rights" org, had radio and TV shows, volunteered fr many things in the community. Take care of mom who is 85. So, yes, I am an illiterate I guess. What a hoot!

[Barry Pruett]

Fish: I thought real journalists were unemployed and in front of their computer with chili cheese fries and a glass of wine? I am now incredibly confused.

[Brad C.]

Bill, NYC can't hold a candle to SF according to this study...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/naomishavin/2014/08/11/the-most-conservative-and-most-liberal-cities-in-america/?utm_source=outbrain&utm_medium=partner&utm_campaign=obtraffic2

[fish]

Fish: I thought real journalists were unemployed and in front of their computer with chili cheese fries and a glass of wine? I am now incredibly confused.

Yes Barry this confuses many people.

But I can assure you that there are working journalists who actually pursue stories of import to the public at large and who don't call themselves "editor" and refer to themselves with the royal "we" while using their hobbyist website to snipe at their neighbors and link to the work of others while simultaneously whining that people are being mean to them and are really just cruel poopyheads!

WOW.....that might be my best run-on sentence ever. I'm going to go grab a Gatorade and catch my breath!

[Todd Juvinall]

As I sit here in my comfort clothes reading fish and Barry, I have to admit, I too like chili cheese fries. OMG! Fish, careful about those run on sentences, there are lurjing censors! What a hoot!

[fish]

...and then there are those snippets that make a guy appreciate the little things in life!

Democrat on Democrat hissy fits in public places......sweet, sweet music!

Former Democratic Massachusetts Congressman Barney Frank caused quite the scene at the 40th anniversary gala of the Massachusetts Humanities Council, when he started screaming at a fellow politician, according to the Boston Herald’s Gayle Fee.

Frank was seated next to incoming Democratic majority leader of the Massachusetts Senate Stanley Rosenberg. Rosenberg was also the man in charge of Massachusetts redistricting following the 2010 census, redistricting that made Frank’s district more conservative and saw him resign rather than fight a tough reelection fight.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/14/barney-frank-creates-a-scene-at-massachusetts-charity-event/

[Todd Juvinall]

Love it! Barney and friends are showing their true mettle. He is a putz!

[Walt]

An admitted "ivory tower" LIB. Now that takes balls.
http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/15/jonathan-gruber-in-2010-im-an-ivory-tower-guy/

[Paul Emery]

Todd What is BDS? We all know what BRS is because it's been discussed here so many times but BDS ???

[fish]

Posted by: Paul Emery | 15 November 2014 at 01:18 PM

Frankly Paul, a refreshing as to the meaning of "BRS" would be welcome at this point.

[fish]

Annie Fox says:

November 14, 2014 at 9:03 am

You nailed it Jeff. Old fishy pants now thinks we’ve met and shook wrists? You & I have never met, you sure he’s some kind of detective? Well, maybe a little on the Maxwell (not so) Smart side.

You nailed it jeff......you sure did.....nailed it good.....

Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahaaahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

[George Rebane]

Have no idea what BDS and BRS are; should I be ashamed or embarrassed, or both?

[fish]

Posted by: George Rebane | 15 November 2014 at 02:59 PM

I don't know George....I'm rapidly approaching the "CRS" stage of my life though!

[Todd Juvinall]

Paul is the poster child of BDS. Bush Derangement Syndrome.

[fish]

I recently was pumping gas at the Union 76 station in downtown Grass Valley after dropping our son off at school in the early morning when I noticed Holly walking her own children to school. We waved at each other, and off they went. It was a great small-town scene.

Yeah...you fixed your typo didn't you! I remember when you "waived" at friend Holly from your "ommunity".

[Brad C.]

So I asked my Doctor,"Doctor, what are we going to do about this dangerous virus from Africa?"

And he said, "I don't know, he has two more years in office.”

[fish]

Posted by: Brad C. | 15 November 2014 at 04:50 PM

Here ya go......you earned it!

http://instantrimshot.com

[Bill Tozer]

California water is not the only thing to run dry. The good news is we finally have transparency. The bad news is not too many will like what they see now that the veil has been lifted.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-controller-pension-website-20141114-story.html

[Bill Tozer]

Finally, Grueber has a defender. Grueber should be applauded for telling the truth. he dares said what no political had the guts or arrogance to say.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/curtis-houck/2014/11/12/nyt-writer-defends-gruber-msnbc-voter-expectations-health-care-are

Of course the NYT is not always a reliable source and can't always be trusted. With that said, I am glad the MIT economics professor was an ally
Grueber's economic modeling of health care public policy is accurate. I will give him that. I ain't no MIT expert, but you would have to be dumber than the Democrat Party to say cover all pre-existing medical conditions for the uninsured, add millions to the rolls and cover 3/4 of their premiums and still think that you can keep your doctor/health plan and it will save money, reduce the deficit, and be affordable. You can't make this stuff up. Wait until 2018 and we will all see how affordable this is, lol. Yikes! Lol.
I feel rather Jolly this fine morning. Lol. Life has never been better, lol.

[Bill Tozer]

Oppps. It's Gruber, not Grueeeeeber. My mistake.

Since the MIT's health care economic impact modeling has proven accurate and precise with the vast number of complexities, instead of throwing him under the bus, we should hire him. hire him? Yes, hire him.
We could use Gruber and his public policy modeling to look at the immigration changes Obama will pen and have the Gruber model applied to find out the true costs, if any, to the dumb Americans and all impacts on the economy and state governments. Just consider it. Money well worth spent if you ask me. Think how a small number of trimimgrates have strained our social service safety nets even though they make 20 bucks an hour cash. We need Gruber now more than ever.

[Bill Tozer]

Ok,this Sandbox of our lives is approaching the 100 comment mark. Thus, before this current episode of Sandbox is closed and tossed into the dustbin of history, allow me to give credit where credit is due.
Time for a resounding round of applause, cheers, well wishes and a boatload of "good job"s. All things are possible.

http://www.ncscooper.com/concussion-coma-change-pelline-into-a-person-nobody-recognizes/

[fish]

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 16 November 2014 at 05:36 AM

TRANSFORMATION OF CRANKY CRITIC STARTLES FOOTHILLS RESIDENTS

Pelline was reportedly injured at his Lake Tahoe retreat when a bear tried to wrestle a 15-pound ham from the pharaoh of the foothills. The bear ended the struggle by slamming Pelline against a pile of old copies of Sierra FoodWineArt being saved for kindling this winter.....

Interesting.

Unfortunately though the whole premise is crap! In order for comedy to "work" there needs to be basis in fact upon which one can initiate a chain of absurdity.

....jeffy losing a fight over a ham.....sorry fink that's just crazy talk?

[Bill Tozer]

Well, Fish, you are correct as usual, but me thinks you need to see the smaller picture. :)

Before I move on to planting Spring bulbs, guzzle move coffee, relieve the bladder, and study the insides of my eyeballs during nappy-pooh time in 2 hours, I leave you with this. A must have tee-shirt for those of us who still cherish SF values.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/16/us-usa-missouri-shooting-signs-idUSKCN0J00IG20141116

Carry on, my good fellow. Fighting over a ham with one of our furry friends? Oh, their cubs are so adorable. But, the point you have forwarded does pose a threat to my religious beliefs. Did woman really come from the rib of a man? In this case, I believe that he would never have given up a rib without a good fight. Oh, much to ponder.

[Barry Pruett]

Fish. Thank you for the laugh this beautiful morning! A beautiful morning for a run in order to get ready for the Bratton Turkey Trot! Ya'll have a wonderful day...but get outside!