Sandbox - 11mar15

[So much to think and talk about - Hillary's debacles and scandals and incipient candidacy(?), Kentucky's two senators starting to hug each other, Obama's Iranian bumble, The Fed's prevarication on interest rates and the market's dive, Iran 'advising' Iraqi troops against ISIS (remember, these turkeys fought an eight year war recently), al Sisi, our strongest Arab ally, still waiting for a visit to the White House, ragheads by the thousands all over Africa and Asia pledging allegiance to ISIS, ..., oh my!  And yes, Nevada County's plan for economic development is still AWOL.]

Comments

[Michael R. Kesti]

Today the FUE posted an article on his blog that quotes approximately half of an opinion piece written by Dana Milbank and published by The Washington Post. Other than including a link to the entire article he provided no credit to Mibank or The Washington Post.

One might think that an award winning journalist should know and do better.

[fish]

Posted by: Michael R. Kesti | 11 March 2015 at 09:58 AM

One might......!

[Todd Juvinall]

Isn't that the modus operandi of "journalists" now?

[RL Crabb]

Mr. P is trying to convince everyone that The Union is wussing out by not naming the anonymous source in the Lamphier scandal. Uh, Scoopy, what's stopping YOU from enlightening the public? You know the name as well as anyone else who's paying attention. I'll tell you why...because he doesn't want to be slapped with a big fat libel suit to go with his size ninety underpants.

[Ben Emery]

Why would we be surprised the Republicans would interject themselves into middle east affairs outside the normal protocol? I am even less surprised at how the Democrats are pretending to be outraged for political gain. Once again the American people are being used and lied to by the D's and R's for an edge in the next election cycle.

Eisenhower had a coup of democratic Iranian government in 1953, LBJ lied about Gulf of Tonkin, Nixon sabotaged Peace Accords causing tens of thousands of US troops subsequent deaths and millions of Vietnamese, Reagan made deals to keep American hostages in Iran until after election, Reagan befriended Saddam Hussein- Osama Bin Laden-Mujahideen, Reagan armed Iran in an illegal arms trade for cash that was laundered through drug lords to fund an illegal covert war in Central America, Bush gave the OK for Saddam Hussein to invade Kuwait, Clinton backed sanctions on Iraqi people and bombing campaigns all throughout the 90's, Bush lied us into an illegal invasion/ occupation of Iraq and declared Iran axis of evil, and Obama has been using an immoral drone warfare in multiple nations without legal authority to do so from the international community.

https://consortiumnews.com/2012/06/14/admissions-on-nixons-treason/
Admissions on Nixon’s ‘Treason’

[George Rebane]

Let the record show that our very own and indefatigable Reinette Senum is well on the way with her next project to create a sustainable, content, compassionate, and insular community wherein all things local assume a sacrosanct precedence. Ms Senum announces, ‘Nevada County Launches Its First TimeBank: An Alternative Currency Backed By Good Deeds’ – now would you expect anything less?

Full details will be available tomorrow 12 March, 6-8pm at Sierra Mountain Coffee Roasters, 671 Maltman Dr, GV. The alternative currency will be awarded to people doing for each other such jobs as “much needed home repairs, rides to the doctors, yard work, health, child and elder care, companionship, and (other) basic necessities”. All work will be awarded the same number of credits based solely on the number of hours worked - what could be more fair?

The dollar-based system is failing communities according to Ms Senum whose prescription states that “ultimately, Nevada County is becoming its own Federal Reserve of good intentions. We are building a parallel system next to an aging and failing system that cannot adapt quickly enough to the changes coming our way.”

More than a few questions remain about how these alternative currency credits will be issued, vetted, stored as retained value (cleared), used as a unit of account (who sets prices), and trafficked as the medium of exchange. However, I’m sure all that will be explained tomorrow at the Coffee Roasters, and we will be on our way to a new communal and mediated barter society that eschews those worthless fiat dollars. Take that Madame Yellen!

[fish]

Posted by: RL Crabb | 11 March 2015 at 10:53 AM

Again his muddled thinking is on display. jeffy claims that the legal process must be allowed to proceed unimpeded. In this he is correct.

But given this why out an anonymous source at this juncture (I know that's another of his compulsions....to name and shame!)?

[Todd Juvinall]

Come on Pelline you know who anonymous is regarding the TL issue. Tell us all we are waiting.

I have done a article on my blog about the dustup regarding Iran and the Republican letter. Everyone should read the one page letter. Then decide.

[Walt]

Ben is all over the board today. Reagan made deals with Iran? ( do show some evidence of that) The only "deal" that I know of, it that Reagan was going to go in shooting to get them back as soon as he took office. ( They left captive airspace as his hand was on the Bible) Iran knew he meant business.

Nixon got tossed from office for 18 or so missing minutes of tape recordings.
It didn't help that he sicked the IRS on his "enemies". Funny how "O" and Co. have been able to get away with it. Yet Nixon got tossed from office. ( by Repubs no less)
It goes to show that with the Left,"by any means necessary" is alive and well.
Now we have plenty of Obamaites using illicit emails (false names and private addresses)
Still "nothing to see here". From the EPA on down. No one has been held accountable.
These are LIBS.. They get these exemptions.

As for Hillary, LIBS will give her a pass AND the vote.

[joe smith]

GR11:15
I'll spend the next 7 weeks tending my carrot garden and give them to the community in exchange for Rennet Sebum shutting her pie hole for whole 7 weeks. "What could be more fair?"

[George Boardman]

Mr. Anonymous must be one powerful dude: Half the community claims to know who he is, but nobody will speak his name in public, not even Lamphier, who you assume has nothing to lose at this point.

If the Lamphier case goes to trial, I'm guessing one side will call him as witness, and then we'll all know who he is. Of course, his ID won't change the validity of his original statement that started this chain of events.

As for economic development being AWOL: That shouldn't be a surprise in a county where the supervisors consider it a category B priority.

[Todd Juvinall]

Excellent points GeorgeB. I guess a lightning bolt will come down and strike the person telling us who he is.

[drivebyposter]

re: The Timebank.

I've seen quite a few of these community money things come and go in different places. Typically, it's a bunch of massage therapists who are trying to swap a backrub for getting their transmission rebuilt or for a root canal. Oddly enough, skilled professionals hardly ever take part.

If want to stir the pot, cook up some sort of local coinage based on precious metals (with a perceived value higher than the metals content of course) and allow local tradesmen and workerbees to post their rates. Of course, the first thing that will happen is that the feds will parachute in and seize the filthy lucre. The federal government wants everyone trapped into their currency, you can't even get out of the game.

[drivebyposter]

B.Emery: "Why would we be surprised the Republicans would interject themselves into middle east affairs outside the normal protocol?"

You can argue that it's time to change how this has evolved. Rather like the President's war-making powers, it seems to me that the executive branch's ability to make 'treaties' (especially the kind that aren't voted on by Congress) has metastasized far beyond the original intention.

Referring to the President:

"He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur;"

...and to the Congress
The Congress shall have Power To ... regulate Commerce with foreign Nations"

I can't say there's a lot of consent (or advice) at work here.

[Walt]

We all know how LIBS love to push "fairness" around. And out of the spirit of "fairness", and to make Iran happy, in the all " talks",, John Kerry (with the blessing from "O") just give them a uh,,um,, "peace offering".. With all the manuals, instructions, and trigger codes. All in the interests of peace... Right?
For the sake of discussion, any bets on how many weeks before they would use it?
( Ya' really think they will put it on display for all to see and say " Look what we got?
We are now good friends with the West and will live in piece with Israel."

[Gregory]

From The Weekly Standard:
"In September 2002, David Bonior, the second-ranking Democrat in the House of Representatives, flew to Baghdad in an attempt to undermine George W. Bush's case for war in Iraq on a trip paid for by Saddam Hussein's regime. Bonior, accompanied by Reps. Jim McDermott and Mike Thompson, actively propagandized for the Iraqi regime. McDermott, asked whether he found it acceptable to be used by the Iraqi regime, said he hoped the trip would end the suffering of children. 'We don't mind being used,' he said."

No, I don't generally read the WS, I googled knowing this had happened and this was the cleanest snippet.

BTW just about every statement in Br'er Ben's 11:15 is utter BS; Ben just has a hard time separating rhetoric from fact.

[Barry Pruett]

If Pelline told everyone who anonymous is, it would undermine his false narrative that Terry's woes are all because of Republicans. Pelline does not want the truth out; he just wants to bang anonymous on The Union's head. Pelline gets to beat up on Repubs and The Union at the same time. Perfect for a Pelline drubbing...

If I am not mistaken (and I am not), Pelline has equal access to public records as The Union. In fact, Pelline regularly requests public records from local government on posts his findings. He does not want to know for sure, but I bet that if I were in Terry's shoes, everyone would know everything "not fit to print"...all courtesy of Cartman.

[Bill Tozer]

Oh, Fatty should gave himself and his size 90 drawers some relief and just shut the fuck up. We all know the Fatty hates anything anonymous and rightly bans anonymous posters. Hey Fatty, shoot the messenger and take some mints to cover up your cum breath. Or, as most sane people implore, let the process play out and unfold in a orderly manner. Understand? Oh, BTY, you have a small piece of shit stuck to a piece of lettuce between your teeth. It is quite distracting. Now take a napkin and wipe your face or there will be no dessert for you.

Hey Fatty, read this link and then do some in depth uncovering, discovering, and trashing of this extreme hard left Democrat. That should keep you busy and out of the speculation game. And no more hugs and kisses until to pick your teeth and take a handful of mints to get rid of that dead man smell. Peace out bro, did your fro. Gimme five on the white liberal side.
You rock! Feel free to take credit for breaking news while you repairing another well built sturdy computer chair, you multi-talker, you.

http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-california-pension-reform-measure-targets-calpers-may-184159717--sector.html

[Walt]

To ride the coat tails of Gregory, a little more LIB monkey business in Middle East affairs.
" In 2007, against the wishes of the Bush administration and roundly criticized for the move, then House Speaker Nancy Pelosi actually went Syria to have a meeting with President Bashar Assad."

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/03/11/hillary-07-i-applaud-pelosi-going-to-syria-congress-must-engage-iran/

But it's OK when LIBS do it... Uh,, right?

[Walt]

Damn Bill,, Your sure on the warpath tonight. What happened? The "big guy" refuse to post your comment? ( no real surprise there) Or did he leave your favorite closet in shambles?
Seems you got a reason to be mighty pissed!

[fish]

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 11 March 2015 at 07:38 PM

Doing the lords work William.....the only exercise jeffy gets is complaining that George doesn't moderate his blog.

[Don Bessee]

WOW that must be some back story Tozer! Since its the sandbox I would like to hear what you all think about the hearings on the Audit of the California courts spending patterns?

[Barry Pruett]

Don't kid yourself. Pelline already knows who anonymous is; he has been making allusions to the person for sometime. Pelline is not going to be a responsible journalist and tell everyone, because he needs something with which to bludgeon his former employer (The Union). Pelline used to thinly hide his hatred of The Union and conservatives. Now he proudly wears it on his sleeve and at the end of his little fingers.

[Barry Pruett]

Come on Jeffy. Send a public records request to the County so you can confirm what you already know. If money is a problem, as a blogger you can probably get a fee waiver. If not, I will spot you the $1.10. Why are you not outing anonymous? If anonymous was a republican, you likely would have done it already.

No...Pelline does not want to confirm. He wants to keep the false narrative going that "it is all the evil Republicans in Nevada County." He (and his accomplices, the local Democrat central committee) wants you to forget the real story..."local Democrat elected official charged with three misdemeanor cunts [typo, s/b 'counts'] of possession of child porn."

Pelline wants his readers to hop along his little bunny trail...and only the kooks are buying his nonsense. And this guy used to be the editor of The Union. We should petition the county for a holiday in honor of Jeff Ackerman for having the insight to launch Pelline before he could destroy The Union. In any event, Pelline's jihad against The Union will go on until his demise, but thankfully the community at-large is no longer buying what he is selling.

[Barry Pruett]

I have a form public records request that you can use Jeffie. Oh wait. You already have my form, because you publicly requested it from the county in connection with AtPac. So, take that form, modify it, and send it in. We are waiting for you to scoop The Union. Come on. You are supposedly an "award winning journalist." Act like it scoopy...out the anonymous source that tipped off law enforcement that Terry was in possession of child porn. You know full well that you have equal rights to the documents as The Union. "Exercise" your rights.

Patiently waiting...

[Jeff Pelline]

Barry,
There is an unfortunate and embarrassing typo in the second paragraph of your 6:11 a.m. rant. A Fraudian slip? ROFLOL.

BTW, unlike you who wrote, "“The only way I can fight back is to never vote for a Democrat," I have voted for Republicans and Democrats over the years — locally, statewide and in the federal race.

http://www.nwitimes.com/news/opinion/mailbag/the-only-way-i-can-fight-back-is-to-never/article_72d049a2-fcd5-537e-95d7-b384647344e0.html

[Barry Pruett]

What does that have to do with you falsely bludgeoning The Union for not doing something that you could do today? This is not a partisan issue. It is an issue with your hypocrisy and your jihad against The Union that started when they caned you. Go get the records like you demand The Union to do. We are waiting. You know how to do obtain public records...or did they not teach you that when you got a degree in rhetoric. Attacking me is not going to deflect your double standard.

[Jeff Pelline]

Barry,
Your c-word typo made my day! And it's only 7:27 a.m. You must be learning potty talk from Bill Tozer. ROFLOL.

[Todd Juvinall]

What a hoot! We got to see what the demise of the press is all about in the press conference of Hillary Clinton the other day. The press has its favorites and nothing will shake them to do the right thing. Pelline is no different than the double dealing hypocrites in the lamestream press. As you can see the vacuous mind of Pelline can spell check, that is all.

[fish]

..."local Democrat elected official charged with three misdemeanor cunts of possession of child porn."

I know it's always a mistake to encourage his strange compulsions but that is an unfortunate typo.

[Barry Pruett]

That it is fish...that it is.

Still waiting on that public records request from you so you can scoop The Union. Question: Did you learn any other skills at Cal other than the rhetorical tool of attack the messenger? It appears that you could have saved a lot of money by utilizing that rhetorical tool without the diploma.

George, you may want to correct that typo...it is an unfortunate one as fish would say. The copy editor (Pelline) is infatuated with the typo apparently.

[fish]

The copy editor (Pelline) is infatuated with the typo apparently.

The giggles at Chateau Pelline must be deafening..... Like the first time a four year old hears the word "poop"!

...and as always (some type of) LOL!

[Jeff Pelline]

Barry,
You should trade your anger for a spellchecker. ROFLOL.

[fish]

Posted by: Jeff Pelline | 12 March 2015 at 08:34 AM

You should trade your keyboard for a treadmill......

....and as always

[RL Crabb]

Before you Repubbys get your panties in a wad over this hit piece, make sure you watch to where Nancy and Matthews get theirs... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/11/daily-show-gop-under-miner_n_6847568.html

[George Rebane]

Administrivia - Per BarryP's 828am I have indicated the typo on his 611am. Correcting it without annotation would make the comment thread referencing the typo confusing.

[Barry Pruett]

Angry? Are you kidding? Do you know how much we laugh about our interactions? Every single time that I am bored and decide to point out your hypocrisy (which you are refusing to defend by your complete and absolute failure to respond to the facts raised hereinabove), my email and telephone blow up from folks calling to laugh. Angry? LOL. New law firm, new incredible staff, new building, daughter getting recruited by colleges (Yale among them), extraordinarily happy wife, softball season starting, judging my last college gymnastics meet of the year tomorrow night (at Cal), other daughter exceeding all expectations...yeah...I am so angry...life is so bad. Too funny.

Still waiting for you to tell me why you have not requested the documents identifying anonymous...tick tock...

[Jeff Pelline]

"fish," aka David of Carmichael,
Weak sauce. You don't even live in our community! LOL.

[fish]

Posted by: Jeff Pelline | 12 March 2015 at 08:54 AM

18 months and that's still the best riposte you can muster......there's your weak sauce. Anyway jeffy Todd made me an official Honorary Resident last week so shouldn't we "move on"!

.....and as always Setting off the USGS Region 9 Seismograph by Rolling on the Floor Laughing out Loud!

[fish]

Posted by: RL Crabb | 12 March 2015 at 08:45 AM

Heard the audio earlier this week RL. Better to have images to go along with it! I staggers me why the three major networks are confused as to why they are losing viewership?

[Jeff Pelline]

Barry,
You are about as insecure as they come. And you wear it on your sleeve.

[Ben Emery]

Walt, 11 March 2015 at 12:24 PM

I spared the history of US and South America since it would have had added like another 100 examples of US interfering in foreign governments.

The funny thing is Reagan is most Republican hero but going off of his record in office he wouldn't even be allowed in the modern day Republican Party and probably would be considered a liberal democrat.

Nothing curious about hostages being released the same day Reagan took office?

Reagan-Bush Ties to Iran-Hostage Crisis
https://consortiumnews.com/2014/04/09/reagan-bush-ties-to-iran-hostage-crisis/

Here is a timeline version of the Reagan administration on Iran/ Contra and how he repeated trading arms for hostages, just like the deal made prior to the 1980 election.

Iran-Contra and Arms-for-Hostages Scandals
http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=irancontraaffair&irancontraaffair_key_figures=irancontraaffair_ronald_reagan

Reagan and his administration was the worst administration of the 20th Century and we are still suffering from it today. His administration is the one that started us on the government funded on the credit card.

[fish]

The funny thing is Reagan is most Republican hero but going off of his record in office he wouldn't even be allowed in the modern day Republican Party and probably would be considered a liberal democrat.

Reagan and his administration was the worst administration of the 20th Century and we are still suffering from it today. His administration is the one that started us on the government funded on the credit card.

Liberal Democrat? I guess that explains the whole credit card thing......

[Todd Juvinall]

Jeeze I really feel sorry for Ben Emery. The man makes crap out of sugar.

Barry, obviously Pelline is missing a full deck of cards if he can't even see how great and happy your life is. Meds are needed I think. ROFLMAO!

[Barry Pruett]

Thank you George!

Jeff: Come on by my office today, and I will give you a free tutorial on the rights of media/bloggers to public records. I will even help you draft a well crafted public records request, so we can conclusively determine who anonymous is. The big, old, nasty Union won't do it. We can scoop The Union together! We can go together "like lamb and tuna fish!" I am just kidding. I am not a big fan of lamb.

Based upon your multiple and completely non-responsive response to multiple challenges to you to obtain the records yourself, we can all easily conclude that you have no desire to know who anonymous is...you just want to bang anonymous over Jim Hemig's head. You wear your hatred of Nevada County and The Union on your sleeve and your deep seeded anger (most likely a result of your termination from The Union) is readily evident.

Have a good one my old buddy.

[George Rebane]

I summarized my two cents worth on Republican senators' letter to Iran under Bob Crabb's 10mar15 post on his website.

If I may. Actually “the annals of diplomacy” have seen more than plenty of impetuous surrogate diplomacy from Democrat members of Congress during Republican presidents’ tenures. This afternoon Steve Hayes of the Weekly Standard laid out a list of them longer than you arm that included Pelosi’s most recent hugging match with Syria’s Assad during Bush2’s administration that gave that murderer much sought after political cover and fortitude to stay the course that he is still on.

Nevertheless, I agree with Krauthammer that the Repubs’ letter would better have been composed and publicly directed at the President spelling out the imbroglio he would have with Congress should he accept the desperate agreement that Kerry appears to be cobbling together with Iran. Stand by for a nuclear armed klatch of Arab countries when the terms of the current agreement are announced. To think that the present letter will drive the Iranians from the negotiating table is beyond naïve – they have everything to gain and nothing to lose.

The middeast nuclear proliferation has already started. Yesterday the Saudi king signed a memorandum of agreement with the visiting South Korean president on her nation supplying Saudi Arabia with nuclear power technology that outputs 'spent fuel' which can be then weaponized. Bottom line, no one respects any agreement Obama will get with Iran any more than they trust Iran to live up to the terms of any agreement. Everyone sees an economically stronger Iran emerging from this go-around without the slightest impediments to their progress toward a missile mounted nuclear warhead. Well not everyone, America's Left will remain as bamboozled as ever.

[Jeff Pelline]

Barry,
While you were commenting on this blog, I was with our son and his classmates, celebrating their academic successes. Get a life dude! BTW, I can't blame you for confusing Todd for George in your 09:37 AM comment. They might as well be interchangeable. LOL.

[fish]

Posted by: Jeff Pelline | 12 March 2015 at 10:00 AM

...and ultimately the closing response from jeffy is always that of the bitchy queen!

And hey....how bout that internet....did you know it's changing the way we communicate!

[Walt]

Yes,, LIBS bitched about the Iran letter. Seems Kerry had to eat crow..
"Secretary of State John Kerry was forced to admit to Congress that the president’s intent was to create an agreement that was not “legally binding” so that he would not have to submit it for ratification."

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/12/cotton-letter-forces-obama-to-admit-iran-deal-is-empty/

[George Rebane]

Walt 1115am - when the "not legally binding" dropped from Kerry's lips yesterday, it blew away all the Dems accusatory points about the Senate letter spoiling things with the Iran deal. It seems that everyone understood that - including the Iranians who would never consider anything from the US as legally binding - except the hard Left.

I would really like to see the transcript of the negotiating session in which Kerry drops this little gem on the towelheads.

Kerry: You realize, of course, that our agreement will not be legally binding because that's the only way we can slip it by our Congress.
Towelhead: Yes, we considered any outcome of these talks as not legally binding from the start.
Kerry: You did?! Then why the hell are you dicking around with us on this 'agreement'?
Towelhead: So that you can have something to dangle in front of the lamestream and your gruberized voters to justify withdrawing all those sanctions you have imposed on us. Didn't Obama tell you? You need something to cover your caving so that Obama will have a legacy piece of foreign policy that will also help elect a Democrat in 2016. I had no idea that we had to spoonfeed you through this process; get with the program dammit!

[Todd Juvinall]

Do you think Jon Stewart will do a piece on Kerry? Naw, just trash the R's.

[George Boardman]

I'm pretty sure Mr. Anonymous is Lou Laplante, president of Nevada County Scooper.

[fish]

Oh crap.....Ben is right, the fascists are back on the march.....from beyond the grave!

http://news.yahoo.com/fascist-sperm-busts-dna-frontier-192608215.html

[Barry Pruett]

Thanks for stopping by today Todd! Nice to see you. Wonder if Cartman requested those public records yet?

[Jeff Pelline]

Barry,
This is a way out of your league, but as an editor, I'm batting 1-0 vs. Microsoft.
Thanks, but I have plenty of good attorneys in my Rolodex file. Hope you can help Todd with some eldercare advice, however! Or some cartwheels!
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/Article/Microsoft-won-t-get-reporter-s-notes-Judge-rules-against-p-14
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Cnet-Reporter-Wins-First-Amendment-Victory-in-2938821.php

[Todd Juvinall]

Nice tour of your new offices Barry. At least you are part of the economy here renting or owning the space. I think Pelline is using a bedroom for his office. Did he get a permit for "home business"? LOL!

I do not think Pelline is going to pursue the FOIA since it costs a $1.10. Too much dough. LOL!

[Todd Juvinall]

Oops, didn't see the Pelline "eldercare" remark. Hey Pelline, I challenge you to a fifty yard dash at Pioneer Park. Winner gets a free dinner for two in Nevada City. How about next week? We can see who the "elder" is. ROFLMAO!

[Michael R. Kesti]

Todd Juvinall 12Mar15 at 03:25 PM

I'd pay $1.10 to see that. Maybe more!

[Todd Juvinall]

Thanks Kesti. I would probably;y blow a gasket in the 65 year old body of mine but it might be fun!

[Paul Emery]

Speaking of tours KVMR is having an open house Saturday from noon to 4. Everybody is welcome. If any of you come by look ask for me.

[Todd Juvinall]

What do you look like? LOL!

[Walt]

Hay Ben.. A little something to ponder. Reagan was the best President in modern time.
History has chiseled that in stone. He even got a state of the art aircraft carrier named after him. Jimmy Carter got a submarine. ( out of sight, and out of mind?) Bush also got a carrier, and worthy of his name as well.
Now.. What would be the USS Clinton be? Even better,, "the Obama"?? Princes cruse lines can help out with naming a boat for Clinton. ( We all know how he likes his women)

As for "O"?? just what ship would be fitting? ( other than one that's sinking.)
Guesses anyone?

[Steven Frisch]

Posted by: Walt | 12 March 2015 at 05:50 PM

Considering the fact that Jimmy Carter was actually a submariner, graduated from the Naval Academy in 1946 and served 10 years on active duty, including qualifying for command of a diesel electric sub, and participated in the start up of the US nuclear sub program, I think it is fitting that he has a sub named after him.

[Walt]

So Steve hits Wiki to try and save the day. ( Berkeley U of the net)
Capital ships like carriers get named after Presidents as a general rule.
Funny how Carter winds up the exception. I guess they really felt sorry for the worst President ( popular opinion even today, with the argument that "O" has taken over that title) and the ones in charge said " we got this spy sub that needs naming,,,"
The truth is Steve, not many people even know about the sub.
Need proof? Go do a "man on the street" test. Start in Nevada City.

[George Rebane]

Have to agree with Frisch's 608pm. Having been a nuclear sub combat systems developer and known a number of SSN and SSBN skippers, the most impressive thing Jimmie Carter did was to qualify to serve as deck officer of an SSN. The test for that is grueling and requires the officer (when on watch he commands the ship) to know every subsystem on the sub right down to the knob, lever, dial, and switch, in addition to being able to fight the ship in various tactical situations against both sub and surface targets. Oh yes, he first had to pass muster with the mean sumbich who was also the father of our nuclear Navy, Adm Hyman Rickover. Rickover insisted on personally interviewing and passing on every officer who served on 'his' SSNs and SSBNs. Not everyone made it.

However, as his later career attested, Jimmie should have stayed in the Navy, or at least on the peanut farm.

[Steven Frisch]

Yeah Walt, how gauche to actually check facts before I post them. I knew most of that already, being an avid reader, but what is the point of having technology at ones fingertips if one does not use it? Perhaps a little more reading on a regular basis and less stubbornly holding on to beliefs in the absence of information would improve things. I know Hyman Rickover would approve :)

[Walt]

Well Steve,, think Rickover would have approved of they way Carter ran the Country?
Giving away the Panama Canal was such a GREAT idea. His handling of the hostage situation was even worse. A submarine officer does not a President make.
So. Which garbage scow is suitable for "O"? Maybe Putin will give him a namesake.
Or a Mosque in the new Middle East Caliphate? Yup,, ISIS might put up a statue in Baghdad
in his honor. ( to replace the one of Saddam that got dragged down)
"O" IS the Father of that group. They were born of his arrogance. It was "O"'s great idea to pull all the troops out, and let them rise to power.
Don't forget that "O" allowed one of our most sophisticated spy drones to fall into enemy hands.
Day by day, "O" is looking more like one of "them" than one of "us".
All that "talking to our enemies" has worked out swell.
Mullah Husane Obama camel farm has a good ring to it.

[Don Bessee]

I hope lefty jeffy didn't roll over little kids with all his rolling on the floor today and the real question is how many it took to help him get up? LOL I think we all know why he is happy to harp about the union not doing another (remember they and Yuba net did one at the very beginning) records request and not doing it himself. If he did he would not be able to help the fruth crew and gasp may have to actually post some real news with non-partisan facts. Perhaps we should do it ourselves and publish it all as a public service since he is afraid to. What a crack up his bringing up some ancient history that is irrelevant to deflect BP's offer. 'I won one and so I am a weiner and don't want to mar my perfect record of 1 and 0'. Kind of like the 40 year old high school jock who is still living in the past, the only difference is the jock actually did something. ;-)

[joe smith]

Walt, you are such an ignorant fuck. If you believe Obama was personally responsible for a drone falling into enemy hands, then you have to give him personal credit for killing Bin Laden. In your equation he is one stand up guy. You just outed yourself as a closet butt buddy of JP.

[MA Abrams]

Don/Joe it's rather interesting watching you argue with yourself as it's pretty obvious that both are coming from the same address.....

[Barry Pruett]

http://www.ncscooper.com/lamphier-anonymous-informant-revealed/

I will be tweeting to Gloria Zane today too...

[Barry Pruett]

Oh yeah...Jeffy's article about "his" victory. If anyone bothered to read the article, you would have plainly noticed that Pelline's name is not mentioned once. I guess that we are to believe that all of the success of Jeff's former employers were because of him. Sound familiar??? Astounding ego.

[Jeff Pelline]

Barry,
Two comments about me in eight minutes! You are obsessed. In the "big legal world" (well out of your league) companies hire PR people speak for you. Yup I worked with the lawyer on the case as the editor.
By contrast, here's your "claim to fame." LOL.
http://sierrafoothillsreport.com/2010/04/29/is-the-union-being-used-in-a-mudslinging-political-campaign/

[Barry Pruett]

Trust me...LOL. "I worked with the assistant who worked for the law clerk who worked for a lawyer who worked with the case." And the mean,old CNET (the company for whom you worked at the time) forgot to publish your "oh so important" deeds...give me a break. Never in my life have I heard someone so determined to publish their imaginary greatness.

Unlike you Jeff...I am just a boring, ordinary guy who plays softball and drinks beer and fits into this small town well. I do not have to profess my greatness to anyone (especially you), as I am no different than the guys I play ball with. We simply have different professions. Certainly one thing I will never be accused of is being an elitist. Have a good one...I will say "hi" to Cal for you tonight.

[Jeff Pelline]

Barry,
Your antics in the clerk-recorder's race revealed your "true self" and has since. You are confusing elitism with experience and know-how. You've been practicing your "career" since 2008. You're a "newbie."

[fish]

Posted by: Barry Pruett | 13 March 2015 at 08:31 AM

No need to be bitter Barry.....even though you "had" to go to law school in Indiana of all places....time to give jeffy credit where credit is due.

It reminds me of the time I defeated the Iraqi army (fish - 1 Iraq - 0). Back in 1991 if I recall....seems that this Hussein chap was causing a bit of a kerfuffle in the area and even though I didn't live in his "western such and such community™" I felt I had to intervene. Sure it doesn't sound like I had much of a hand in the actual conduct of the the war, but In the "big legal world" (well out of your league) companies countries hire PR people armies to (sic) speak fight for you. Yup I worked with the lawyer army on the case war as the editor ...err....observer.....yeah that's it....observer!

So....following that line of thinking you can totally understand how jeffy vanquished Microsoft and is entitled to full credit for the feat!

[Barry Pruett]

Correcting your voluminous misstatement of fact could be a full-time job in and of itself. I have been a lawyer since 2005...a lot longer than you have been unemployed.

You know, growing up on the south side of Chicago, the son of a steel worker, I never liked elitists. I always thought, "who the hell does that guy think he is?" I could never stand the person who bragged about things that he really never did. I could never stand the guy who always thought by virtue of his "education" that he had the right and duty to boss people around. I could never stand the guy who always thought that he was somehow better than his fellow man. The elitist must insult and degrade his fellow man in order to make himself feel important.

Growing up in humble beginnings, I vowed to never be that guy. Regardless of your education, your status (whatever that is), or your wealth, most folks have the same basic dreams and desires and we are generally the same - we have love in our hearts and genuinely want what is best for our fellow man. This comment will certainly generate a "witty" response from you, but a lawyer, journalist, doctor, or professor are no different than a plumber or a farmer; they just use different tool boxes. We have the same love in our hearts and deserve the same respect of our opinions regardless. The feelings of the lawyer are as real as the feelings of the plumber. Such feelings should never be disregarded for the shallow reason that "I have a master's degree" or "I have a law degree."

Elitists look down on others with less education. Elitists have to tell people what to do all of the time, because they honestly believe that they must be right by virtue of their education or status. They discard others with different feelings and beliefs as po-dunk or backwoods. Elitists tout their (what they deem to be) elite education, when in fact such education has only narrowed their thinking instead of expanding it and somehow understanding that they are somehow more valued than others. The dean at my law school during orientation tried to tell my class that they were becoming an elite member of society?! What the hell does that mean? My fear was that some of the kids in my class would actually believe his bullshit.

Folks in town do not dislike you because of any other reason than you are an outside elitist trying to tell all us of "backwoods" people what to do all the time. You simply cannot relate to folks in the county. When I first discovered who you were you annoyed me beyond all belief. A dear friend told me not to worry as you would be your own worst enemy. Truer words were never spoken.

[Todd Juvinall]

Barry, you are just one of us. Pelline is one of himself.

[Jeff Pelline]

Barry,
You were admitted to the California bar in 2008. I hope you weren't practicing law in our great state before that!
http://members.calbar.ca.gov/fal/Member/Detail/254986
BTW, didn't you relocate your offices? This listing shows you at another address. Better fix that!

The elitist argument is a false narrative for people who don't have enough know-how, experience, education or resume compared with their peers. It is the oldest trick in the book to "level the playing field." But in truth, it isn't level.

Let's face it, Barry, you were running a gym and you made a mid-career switch to law. There's nothing wrong with that, but you should be humbled by people who have more experience than you, including my experience fighting Microsoft in a legal case. Heck, as a lawyer, might learn something from it.

[Ben Emery]

Walt,
They want to name Mount Diablo after Reagan now, that is more fitting than anything else. Devil = President Reagan

In defense of Ronald Reagan and "his" administrations. I don't believe he had much say in what was going on in them, the inmates were running the asylum for most of his 8 years in office. That is why his administrations were the most federal criminal administrations in US history.

Hopefully you knew that Jimmy Carter service in the US Navy was highly respected.

Jimmy Carter's Naval Service
http://www.jimmycarterlibrary.gov/documents/jec/jcnavy.phtml

[Barry Pruett]

https://courtapps.in.gov/rollofattorneys/Search/Detail/72e695a8-13b7-e011-9d34-02215e942453
I was admitted to practice law in 2005, and you know that, but you would rather lie.

LOL. Thank you for proving my point in connection with your elitism and false chest puffery! What a joke. There is no evidence that you had anything to do with the Microsoft thing. As fish aptly points out, by your "logic," fish defeated Saddam! You really have no idea the tone and understanding of others in connection to what you say. You are like a case study of a narcissist. Amazing.

Have a good on my friend. I will let the remainder of readers clean up your mess. BTW when are you going to request from the county the documents identifying anonymous. Then you can link to an article that actually has your name in it.

[Jeff Pelline]

Barry,
Now you are being foolish. I was the Editor of CNET News. Of course I was involved in the "Microsoft thing," including hiring the lawyer, discussing the case with him multiple times, going to the hearings, etc. I was right in the middle of it.

This link on the California State Bar website states you were "admitted to the Bar of California" on "1/17/2008"
http://members.calbar.ca.gov/fal/Member/Detail/254986

Once again, you are trying to make up for your lack of experience with a false narrative, just as you did in the clerk-recorder's race where you lost in every precinct.

[fish]

There's nothing wrong with that, but you should be humbled by people who have more experience than you, including my experience fighting Microsoft in a legal case. Heck, as a lawyer, might learn something from it.

OMG...the puffery....the self importance......the distortion of local gravity!

Promise me you'll never change jeffy!

[Todd Juvinall]

Barry, no one believes Pelline anyway so he can puff all he wants. At least that part of him is transparent. Now on to more important things.

[fish]

Wait.....that needs some editing......!

"Now you are being foolish. I was the Editor of CNET News guy who owned the home. Of course I was involved in the "Microsoft thing" "landscaping thing", including hiring the lawyer gardener, discussing the case mowing, trimming, and edging with him multiple times, going to the hearings kitchen to get lemonade, etc. I was right in the middle of it.

Well of course you were jeffy....

[Ben Emery]

Ted Cruz trying to tell NASA Administrator Charles Bolden Jr. what NASA should focus on and what it stands for is like a bunch of bloggers with degrees in Physics, Math, and a building contractor trying to debunk Climate Scientists and their findings that Climate Change is very real and is being fueled by human behavior.

Ted Cruz Tells NASA to Stop Worrying About Climate Change and Focus on Space

http://www.nationaljournal.com/2016-elections/ted-cruz-tells-nasa-to-stop-worrying-about-climate-change-and-focus-on-space-20150312

The actual data that supports Climate Change.

Data sets and Images

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/

[fish]

Ted Cruz trying to tell NASA Administrator Charles Bolden Jr. what NASA should focus on and what it stands for is like a bunch of bloggers with degrees in Physics, Math, and a building contractor trying to debunk Climate Scientists and their findings that Climate Change is very real and is being fueled by human behavior.

I thought the raison d'etre for NASA was Muslim outreach.

Hey....I'll see your embarrassing senatorial moment and raise you an even more embarrassing island tipping congressional moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7XXVLKWd3Q

[Don Bessee]

Still no answer from lefty jeffy as to why he is incapable of doing his own records request? He claims to be a journalist right? Perhaps the lawyers phone numbers in his rolodex are all changed or disconnected or the ones that still work wont return his calls!

[fish]

While I'm loathe to cut the self important nitwit the slightest bit of slack who really cares who the anonymous source is at this point?

To quote our next president....."What Difference, At This Point, Does It Make"?

[drivebyposter]

re: NASA

A Senator (or House member) telling a science agency what general things to work on strikes me as a completely reasonable thing. A better argument for NASA might be whether to concentrate on actual manned missions, space-based instruments, or basic technology like propulsion systems.

The EPA (or NOAA? or the Department of Energy?) would probably be a better spot to park money for research/policy making on human-caused pollutants.

I'm not familiar with the internal politics of those organizations, but it's easy to imagine that the mission creep comes from chasing money.

[Todd Juvinall]

Ben Emery 11:16 AM

Yes your criticism of people without degrees having an opinion on Climate Change is like a failed indie candidate supporting the computer modeling of the same thing. I guess we are even.

[Todd Juvinall]

Oh and regarding Ted Cruz being asked to vote billions to NASA doesn't give him and his 26 million Texans any right to even have a opinion on it? Jeeze, no wonder you are such a failure Ben Emery.

[George Rebane]

re BenE 1116am - The interested reader should google the course requirements for a degree in 'climate science' to fully understand the folly of the progressives' arguments as evinced in these pages by Ben Emery and folks of his background. The rest should know that it is ONLY people with degrees in hard-quantitative fields like physics, math, and the systems sciences that can even hope to understand what is required to correctly analyze climate related data, and design/build/operate and interpret the outputs of General Circulation Models. And therefore, it is only they who can correctly call themselves climate scientists. The ones who get 'climate science' degrees from major universities like Columbia and Johns Hopkins are unarmed and can barely qualify to give PPT presentations correctly on what climate science has discovered. But they are a danger to society in how they influence the gruberized.

Ben, your misplaced zeal about climate and AGW is heart-rending, and more so as you continue to cite references which you adulate with no understanding as to their content or validity.

[Gregory]

Climate would Change whether we were here or not, Master Ben, and while it is sometimes amusing to hear you repeat the sermons your chosen priesthood are giving you, they just want you to bounce some coin into the collection plate and get used to shivering while they jump into their Gulfstreams and head for the Bahamas.

[fish]

Posted by: George Rebane | 13 March 2015 at 12:08 PM

Ben, your misplaced zeal about climate and AGW is heart-rending, and more so as you continue to cite references which you adulate with no understanding as to their content or validity.

Proselytize.....proselytize......proselytize..! The progressive way.

[George Boardman]

Good work, counselor Pruett, getting the hostile witness to admit he's an elitist. Know-how, experience, education, resume "compared with their peers." To the manor born, he was.

But we should always be skeptical of personal puffery. Whenever Jeffy brags about his newspaper days, I recall the scene in the movie version of "All the President's Men" when Washington Post editor Ben Bradlee (played by Jason Robards) dismisses a feature salesman by telling him to peddle his new horoscope to the San Francisco Chronicle. That line got a big laugh in the Bay Area theater where I saw the movie.

Personally, I was born and raised in a log cabin I built myself.

[Jeff Pelline]

George Boardman,
No you weren't born in a log cabin. But you never made it to The Chronicle (the little Palo Alto Times was your stomping ground, I recall) and ou wound up going into PR. You also never had the know-how, experience, education and resume of a "big city" journalist — and you wear it on your sleeve. It is possible to have a mid-life crisis when you're 70 years old? LOL.

[Gregory]

George, you're just acting like one of those damned elitists with degrees in physics and engineering. Stop thinking for yourself and believe Ben, he's just trying to save your immortal soul.

[Gregory]

driveby 11:44 AM, do you remember the Dem Congresscritter grilling the Admiral about how many troops could be put on Guam before it tipped over spilling everyone into the sea?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/guamtip.asp