Sandbox - 28may15

[Well, all the liberal palaber about Common Core being just standards and not specific requirements for curricula is just so much BS as states are now beginning to find out. Climate change propaganda has been inserted as a required topic ranging from grade through middle to high school. Students will have AGW drilled into their heads without debate, much like the Catholics and Calvinists ran their religious schools. See 'Schoolroom Climate Change Indoctrination' by Paul Tice in the 28may15 WSJ. gjr]

Comments

[Jon]

Climate change was (and is) going to be a part of school curriculum regardless of common core, so that's not an issue to me. I do agree that Common Core is NOT to be taken as a benign framework. Good that people are asking questions of Common Core, but climate change curriculum is not among my concerns.

But seriously, how are people not talking about the milestone entrances of George Pataki and John Kasich into the Presidential race?.... Pataki perhaps the biggest of the War Hawks so far, proposing ground troops back into the Middle East to directly battle ISIS! Time for a draft? Step right up boys and girls.

[Jon]

Gallup survey regarding the liberal and conservative self-identification.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/05/26/its-becoming-cooler-to-call-yourself-liberal-and-it-has-a-lot-to-do-with-gay-marriage-and-marijuana/?postshare=9091432655880772

Todd, if you only associate with an aging white population in rural America, watch Fox and listen to Rush, you could certainly be forgiven for thinking liberals/progressives in the US are in the big trouble you imagine.

[Russ Steele]

I wrote about Common Core Junk Science in our Schools HERE and HERE last June and July.

Nevada County schools are preparing our children for a world that only exist in the minds of Liberal/ Progressives. When they graduate they are not able to deal with the real world, unable to get a jobs and they have to live with mom and dad. How sad that California schools are failing our children, thus placing an additional burden on mom and dad. You would think that the moms and dads in Nevada County would be paying more attention to the crap that is being taught to their children. They deserve what they get for being passive consumers an undereducated, job less young adult living in their basement.

[Todd Juvinall]

Jonnie, I listen and watch all kinds of political news. You seem to be a DailyKos guy so I understand why you have such a myopic lefty life's opinion set. The libs are on the run and the itty bitty Gallup poll is nothing new. They were polling Obama as over 50% approval while all the others were way below. You can drink the liberal koolAid, I understand you like its taste. I'll pass.

[fish]

So much for everyone.......saying less than exemplary things about urban denizens.....good....that should send KKKrazy Doug back into his cave for another 6 months.....Kid wearing an NRA shirt....excellent Steve can get all spun up.......plus a new label for "The Nations Editor"......Milquetoast Fauntleroy.....fabulous!

http://www.fredoneverything.net/Ballmer2.shtml

[Jon]

Todd, good luck with that head planted firmly in the sand of reality. The trend is your friend Todd. Look at the positions of young people- the environment, gay marriage, pot, social issues, foreign policy. Do you see a far right bent?..not exactly.

[fish]

More awesomeness......thuggish Union Boss threatens thuggish presidential candidate!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/05/27/capital-download-richard-trumka-obama-clinton-trade/28009479/

[fish]

Yeah Todd what the hell are you thinking.....ALWAYS GO WITH THE TREND!

The trend is your friend Todd. Look at the positions of young people- the environment, gay marriage jews, pot the Sudetenland, social issues, foreign policy.

[Don Bessee]

How about this trend? A Marine was court marshalled and given a bad conduct discharge for refusing to remove a strip of paper from her computer that said 'NO weapon formed against me shall prosper'. The basis was that it 'could easily be seen as contrary to good order and discipline' because it was based on a line from the Bible. WTF!?!? Chesty Puller is digging out of his tomb as we speak and he is going to stick his 5 silver stars up the convening officers butt!

[Todd Juvinall]

Jonnie, the trend is against your candidates. You and the left want high joblessness so you can control people and their votes. Look what you have done wrecking education and dumbing down your constituency. But the R's have some people that cut through you grievance and co-dependent voters. You voters want jobs and you can't figure out how to make any. No Jonnie, this will be a wipeout of the democrats and their policies. I can't hardly wait.

[Jon]

Yeah, progressives support high unemployment and wrecking education. Yup. And Santa Claus wears a tutu. Sounds like your refrain in 2012 when Romney was going to romp.

[Gregory]

Jon 10:32

You've misidentified the WaPo article issue... it's about social liberal vs social conservative by their polling on discrete policy elements, not lib vs cons identification. Social Liberal includes Libertarian who ain't liberal by current newspaper standards as "liberal" is the polite word for those of the democratic socialist persuasion. If you actually read through to the end, actual number of self identified conservatives has been pretty constant.

[Gregory]

Breaking news..."New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who is ramping up for a Republican presidential bid, officially pulled the plug on any support he had left for the Common Core on Thursday afternoon."

[Jon]

Gregory, clearly the identification is skewed toward social liberal these days. Since the Republican Party platforms are heavily skewed AGAINST this very definite trend of younger voters, how is that a winning formula for the general election? The Repub Party has been, and remains, terrified to even step out on the limb of social issue moderation for fear of losing the support of the supposed moral majority on the far right (ie Huckabee and Santorum folks). If they stick to this formula again, and believe me, they will with Huckabee and Santorum fighting till the end in the nominating process, they will lose the Presidential General once again.

[Jon]

...Chris Christie? Who is he?

[Gregory]

Jon 1:28

He's the most 'liberal' of the GOP Presidential wannabees.

[fish]

What's this....uber progressive rape fantasy porn...and just a day after his announcement! Grand opening....Grand closing!

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/young-bernie-sanders-liberty-union-vermont

http://www.buzzfeed.com/katherinemiller/bernie-sanders-wrote-an-essay-in-1972-about-rape-fantasies#.ilJybW7xV

[Jon]

The Mother Jones piece was pretty amusing. "Bernie was not really into growing vegetables...or smoking them." No one will accuse Bernie of being the life of anyone's party. An anti-Bill Clinton for sure.

[Jon]

fish, young Bernard's essay addresses a subject matter commonly discussed and studied in academic settings everywhere in the world. My (female) childhood neighbor happens to be one of these top scholars studying this stuff. No joke.

[Gregory]

10 Quatloos on Jon being Stephen Frisch, CEO of SBC

[Jon]

sorry there Gregory. Love reading Frisch on here however.

[fish]

Posted by: Jon | 28 May 2015 at 03:15 PM

But "jon" in this world of microagressions and trigger warnings how can a man with such dark thoughts be trusted in a position of political power? All I'm asking for is a little "common sense" lefty politician control.

Is that really so much to ask?

[Russ Steele]

This one is for Steven Frisch:

Bishop Hill points us to this video of the Tesla Supercharging station at the Harris Ranch exit of Interstate 5 in California. He writes: “How can one resist posting a video of Tesla electric cars being recharged (so it is claimed) using a diesel generator? These people love the environment you see.”

The video shows a portable diesel generator next to the charging station and some Tesla automobiles. Video is HERE.

[Todd Juvinall]

I think Jon is a bit off his noggin. Bernie Sanders, Jonnies pick for Prez is a kinky Bill Clinton apparently. Worse, he is a fantasizer and Jonnie gives Bernies the ol' lib excuses for deviant behavior by his peers. No, America needs another Reagan or Bush social kind of President. Not another one where the drapes have to be dry cleaned weekly in the Oval Office as Bill had done.

I agree with Gregory that "Jon" is probably Frisch. He mentioned my support of Romney in 2012 regarding polls so he has to be him.

[Jon]

fish, I'd trust Bernie's thoughts any day over someone like a Santorum.
Speaking of dark thoughts and dark deeds done by politicians- did you catch the Denny Hastert news today? Seems like plenty of people inside the Beltway knew of this guy and his dark side.

[Todd Juvinall]

Tom Sullivan had a hour on "climate change" today in light of the Common Core edict to teach our young minds full of mush the hoax. I think Christie figured it out too that it is propaganda.

[Gregory]

"sorry there Gregory. Love reading Frisch on here however"-"Jon"

Despite the non-denial denial, I'm sure you do.

[Gregory]

Looks like 'fish' forgot to close his italics.

wondering if that worked...

[fish]

Looks like 'fish' forgot to close his italics.

I hate it when I do that.....

[Todd Juvinall]

I think Rick Santorum is OK but I would only vote for him if he was the nominee. Bernie is a nut. I mean Jeeze, Vermont elects him and Pat Leahy! The state's people are nuts! Don't want to infect our country with that.

I never cared for Denny Hastert because he spent our money no different then the drunken democrat sailors. If he is no good then send his ass to jail.

[Jon]

Todd, maybe you don't realize this, but everyone in Nevada County who has a passing interest in these blogs remembers your (ultimately) comical predictions for Romney in 2012. The collective chuckling was widespread as it was just you and Gallup out there on that one!

[Jon]

Todd, speaking of deviant behavior- any comments on Denny Hastert and his million dollar payoff of a yet-to-be-named victim? Remember him, Republican Speaker, family values guy, former wrestling coach?

[fish]

.... did you catch the Denny Hastert news today? Seems like plenty of people inside the Beltway knew of this guy and his dark side.

Precisely why it's imperative to not let another monster like Bernie Sanders off the leash.

Won't somebody think of the children!

[Todd Juvinall]

"Jonnie", Romney lost the election because the conservatives stayed home and the libs didn't. The only chuckles were you and Paul Emery. But hey, when the R's wiped your party out in 2010 and 2014 I was doing the chuckling.

Regarding Hastert read my 4:23 right above yours.

[fish]

10 Quatloos on Jon being Stephen Frisch, CEO of SBC

Nahh...it's jeffy......but I like the "jon" personality so much more than his real one.

[Jon]

Todd,
Sorry, posted while you were writing your Hastert thoughts. Never realized the gay community knew all about the apparently closeted Mr. Hastert during those years.

Re: Romney, why exactly did conservatives stay home in 2012 when all we heard for the prior 3 years was of their passionate hatred of the President, the ACA, the bailouts, the corruption, the flaunting of the Constitution, etc, etc, etc., not to mention the supposed massive influence of the Tea Party and the anger of the grass roots? So they didn't think Ole Mitt was going to be an improvement? And where were the primary voters who voted for Mitt Romney in the various primaries? Are they going to turn out in droves for dynamic figures like Jeb Bush or Scott Walker this time? Seriously, the loss had nothing to do with lack of conservative turnout, and everything to do with the changed American demographic. Repubs are on track to make the same exact mistakes once again with their toxic Party Platforms.

[Todd Juvinall]

Well Jonnie they stayed home because they did not believe Romney was a true conservative. Very simple. Sort of the same for blacks. When Obama ran they turned out in greater percentages than they did for a white candidate. Check it out.

Regarding Hastert, do you have proof the homosexuals knew about him way back?

[Jon]

Todd, no joke- blacks turned out more for Obama than white candidate! Wow, who knew? I guess I'm still puzzled about Mitt. I thought the primaries are where the true conservatives shine with the fired up base? How do you think Mitt won more votes than other true conservatives in those very primaries? Three possibilities it seems. Either the theory of having to lurch to the right to please the base is a false premise, there simply aren't that many base conservatives turning out in the Repub primaries to vote for the true conservative, or Karl Rove or Wall Street/Koch PACS money coming in for Mitt ruined any chance of the true conservative winning the primaries. Which is it do you think? Were the Repubs victims of their own inclinations toward throwing big money at favored candidates?

On Hastert, I don't think anyone has proof of anything, but a decent google search will pick up a treasure trove of old inside DC posts and articles about the old family values wrestling coach, harking back to his Speaker days. My my my. Wonder why he would need to pay someone over a million+ dollars in cash? Wonder how he had $1.7 million dollars in cash lying around in bank accounts? Not like the guy was a Wall Street banker or something.

[Jon]

According to the govt. filing today, Hastert agreed to pay 3.5 million dollars to a long time acquaintance from his hometown where he was a teacher and wrestling coach.

[Gregory]

Fish, 4:37

It's Frisch, from multiple lines of evidence. 20 Quatloos, put up or, well, you know.

Pelline doesn't have the self control to stay calm for so many posts; Frisch is much better at approximating a rational emotional detachment.

[Todd Juvinall]

And he never posts on Pelline's.

[Gregory]

"How do you think Mitt won more votes than other true conservatives in those very primaries?"- "Jon" (Frisch)

You're better at politics than that, Steve.

It's because the Romney campaign spent millions trashing his fellow Republicans during the primary season, methodically tearing down every other credible candidate that had a chance of winning delegates, leaving a fractured party in his wake. It's been a long time since the GOP had a leader who promoted the 11th Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Speak Ill of another Republican.

It probably helps to know God is on your side when designing the next barrage against someone whose help you'll need to actually win the election in November.

[Account Deleted]

Why did I know that jon would bring up Hastert? When was the last time anyone here brought up his name and extolled his virtues? C'mon jon. What's your point? Do you bring up all of the lefty hypocrites? Hastert was being blackmailed (apparently) and got caught. Isn't blackmail illegal? The IRS and the FBI know who this person is. Hastert is on his own. Couldn't care less. I'm just wondering why he is the only one being charged and why jon keeps bringing him up.
maybe jon is jealous - Hastert wouldn't date him and now it's pay back!

[fish]

Pelline doesn't have the self control to stay calm for so many posts; Frisch is much better at approximating a rational emotional detachment.

Perhaps....I can't remember seeing Steve act so fan-boi like over presidential election matters.....really more a jeffy thing if I recall correctly!

[fish]

My gift to you Patricia re your favorite cause.....about 12 minutes in!

http://www.kste.com/media/podcast-the-armstrong-and-getty-show-armandgettypodcast/52815-8am-i-do-like-to-26082599/

[Todd Juvinall]

Scott is right, the libs always bring up a wayward R and then the lapdog press will beat them into pulp. Tom Delay was finally exonerated but look at how the left was able to destroy him.

Funny how a 50 year old BillC can molest a 23 year old intern for months on end, as well as all the other gals he did, and he is the guiding light for the democrat party. My GOD what a dirtbag party!

[Jon]

Scott, could it be because many of us are sick of hearing about Republican family values, over and over and over again? Every election season that party preaches the fact they are superior in matters of virtue and honesty. Its great when the phonies come to light.

[Jon]

Todd, I have to tell you something- a fully consensual tryst with an 23 yr old adult intern does not fit the description of molesting. Dirtbag party? I would say more on the Republican side. All politicians are candidates however. Something went on with Hastert when he was a teacher/coach back in Illinois. Just a matter of time till we find out what.

[Account Deleted]

"could it be because many of us are sick of hearing about Republican family values, over and over and over again? Every election season that party preaches the fact they are superior in matters of virtue and honesty. Its great when the phonies come to light."
Well - do want to talk about family values or hypocrites?
What values do you have, jon? Any? Care to air them here? Of course you don't. Because as soon as you do, your own idiot reasoning will bite you in the ass. C'mon, jon. Let's party. You go first and let us all know about your deeply held beliefs. You couldn't argue your way out of a paper bag. What a troll.

[joe smith]

3X divorced and alleged adulterer who purportedly pitched a project contract with Larry Craig (tap, tap, tap) is talkin' family values? Whew!

[fish]

Posted by: joe smith | 28 May 2015 at 08:09 PM

Funny isn't it.....republican family values types constantly getting busted in compromising sexual situations and the non-materialistic, hating greed and dirty money dems tripped up over money scandals!

I tell you it's enough to make a libertarian want to go on living!

[Jon]

Whats the reason for the angry post, Scotty? Did the shot at Repubs hit home too close? You seem to be a very angry fellow in general, very unhappy with the world of the 21st century.

[Account Deleted]

'Let's party' is angry? And I notice you aren't responding. You are the definition of a troll.
You have never met me or know anything about me. What basis in fact gives you these ideas? I know - I'm trying to reason with a troll.

[Jon]

Scott, I can read. No one attacked you, but man, you are taking the Denny Hastert thing waay too personally. Scaring me.

[Russ Steele]

Shantytown Sweden
The welfare-state country finds itself engulfed by international beggars.

Citizens of Sweden—a welfare-state society—probably never thought that they would see the day when shantytowns dotted their major cities. Recent years have seen an enormous influx of beggars from other European countries; in the past year alone, the number of vagrants from Romania and Bulgaria has doubled, to 4,000. Their arrival is a consequence of the European Union’s principle of the free movement of persons—a well-meaning policy but one that, at least in this case, has produced the sight of scores of beggars sitting outside supermarkets, drugstores, and upscale boutiques, hoping that someone will leave a coin in their 7-Eleven coffee mugs. They beg in the most affluent districts, where the social contrast between the person kneeling in the street and the passersby toting Luis Vuitton bags becomes almost perverse. In the evenings, the indigent—some with terrible physical disabilities—retreat to the shantytowns or to some other form of shelter. Some may be victims of human trafficking, as suggested by the “rent” they pay criminal compatriots for their begging spaces.

http://www.city-journal.org/2015/eon0528jw.html

Liberalism has consequences.

[Don Bessee]

Scotty.... the tells of a troll

[Account Deleted]

From jon - "You seem to be a very angry fellow in general, very unhappy with the world of the 21st century."
Then jon avers - "Scott, I can read. No one attacked you"
I know I've asked this many times, but really - are there any on the left with intelligence or cognitive powers?
"I can read" Oh good - so can my 5 year old grandson. My daughter could read when she was 3.
You just can't make this stuff up, folks.

[Gregory]

"Every election season that party preaches the fact they are superior in matters of virtue and honesty. Its great when the phonies come to light" - Jon (Frisch)

That's the sort of bullcrap misrepresentation that made it easy for me to walk away from what the Democratic Party had become. A moral superiority of the actors was never the message... which was that *legislation* and *policy* needed to be family friendly, not make it difficult for good parents to raise their children as they see fit.

Steve, given you never had any children, you never had to fight a bureaucracy that was not doing right by your child.

[Gregory]

"Todd, I have to tell you something- a fully consensual tryst with an 23 yr old adult intern does not fit the description of molesting." - Jon (Frisch)

I agree, she was clearly above the age of consent and invited the attention. What about that celebrated gay male Democratic congressman banging a 17 year old male Congressional page and never losing an election over it?

[Bill Tozer]

Is more less, or is less more?

http://www.vox.com/2015/5/27/8670529/la-union-exemption-minimum-wage

[Todd Juvinall]

Jon, at the time the big deal being pushed by the fem lobby all over America was men screwing interns and/or women less powerful who worked for them. That is the point as it seems you have forgotten. Monica Lewinsky was working for the dirtbag and my goodness we sure were lectured by Steinem etal that that was illegal. But anything goes with the libs, at the R's boot their transgressors out most of time. The dems promote.

[Bill Tozer]

I just want it unbiased and accurate. Is that too much to ask?
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/gay-marriage-study-author-admits-lies-science-journal-says-n366266

[Patricia Smith]

Fish, May 27, 7:24pm

Thanks for the gift! Despite the fact that LE is holding onto prohibition with a death grip, marijuana is going mainstream. It is encouraging when conservative talk show hosts recommend MJ for Vets dealing wit PTSD, but it more encouraging that the Senate got on board so Vets can finally get the help the need. This is a good thing.

But these darn politicians just can't keep their hands out of our personal lives. I saw on the news recently that there are talks to raise the minimum age to smoke cigarettes and others want to lower the BAC or adopt a zero tolerance policy. While I am not a fan of either cigerattes or alcohol, I believe in a person's right to make these decisions for themselves.

[Todd Juvinall]

What is up with the youth dying in our community? There have been a number of young people passing away. Today the Union had two more young men. This is not good.

[George Boardman]

I came over here for some high-minded commentary on the issues of the day, but I apparently took a wrong turn and ended up in the boys' locker room.

Time to crack the whip, coach Rebane.

[Todd Juvinall]

This is a "sandbox" and if you want different topics I would suggest DailyKos.

[steven frisch]

I am always amused when I come back here on occasion for my weekly comedy break. Rebane’s Ruminants is a touchstone reminding us of the thought process of the befuddled. For many the daily outlet for their alienation from society is through blogs and in letters to the editor. It is somehow comforting to know that the outlet exists to soak up the edges of society so more focused people can work on things that matter more…the world where decisions are made, life lived, ideas advanced, and change made.

Kudos to the blog, and to the litterbox, where the detritus of daily life can be dumped, and in dumping, lighten the colonic burden many here obviously suffer.

Imagine my surprise to find the ultimate colonic burden, Gregory Goodknight, pushing the contention that I am “Jon”.

Besides the fact that the content of the posts by “Jon” are out of character with my interests, or that the content does not fit my too well recorded speech patterns and syntax, or the insult inherent to “Jon” that he/she is not an original voice, it is still somehow comforting for me to know that Mr. Goodknight is fixated on revealing identity and simultaneously creating a foil for his daily burden.

Mr. Goodknight carries a heavy burden, the burden of maintaining perhaps the most consistently negative, bitter and irrational voice I have ever seen in the blogosphere, and that’s saying a lot. In a sense I feel sorry for Greg. He earns our pity every day.

No Greg, I am not “Jon”, although I do occasionally enjoy Jon’s perspective. But you see, you will never know, so you, and everyone else in the litterbox can speculate. In the speculation you will waste another day of your life accomplishing nothing and the circle of stupid will continue. Ultimately it is comforting to me to know that the circle, constantly refreshed discontent, will waste away like the seed of Onan.

[Account Deleted]

Good of you to notice, Patricia. Davis just passed an ordinance that mandates restaraunts to 'primarily' offer milk or water for a child's meal. The kid can actually order a gallon of soda, but the onus is on the restaraunt to proffer the other first. I'm glad Davis has no other problems.
The feds are using the clause about 'navigable' waterways to include any kind of runoff or mud puddle to intrude on the operations of private land owners. MJ is the last thing to worry about. Anyone can get it and smoke it in their house. LE isn't going to do squat. Folks like Bernie Sanders are a far bigger threat to personal liberty.
The whole AGW thing is all about the intrusion of the govt into practically every part of our lives. The EPA wants to 'inspect' your home on a regular basis. For your own good, don't you know.

[Todd Juvinall]

I think you are "Jon" too Frisch. You are the same colonic personality and provide us all with so much amusement. We like debating and you like telling everyone how smart you are. You are really a cartoon character. We all lead and have led normal lives, family, kids, business and members of the community. I am sure glad we are not like you. A sad sack, wannabee regular person. Good luck.

[fish]

Posted by: steven frisch | 29 May 2015 at 08:31 AM

Yes....good to have a place to note that they haven't upped the chocolate ration to 20 grams a week and that Steve can still find fulfillment selling climate indulgences to business.

Truly a radiant future is before us

[Account Deleted]

I realize this isn't the 'high minded' commentary Mr Boardman wants, but I do have another item in the catagory of govt solving our worst problems.
"New York City and Santa Barbara, California are among the first U.S. cities to outlaw long breath holding in public pools."
No doubt these fine municipalities will hire specialists with stop watches to enforce the new rule.
Makes you wonder how the human race managed to exist before we had govt to tell us how to live.

[fish]

An excellent point to raise Mr. Obermuller. I too hope it meets Mr. Boardmans high standards for discussion.

I would also like to point out that your observation about further nitwittery in both New York and Santa Barbara presents an excellent opportunity for Mr. Frisch to expand the SBC into a subsidiary "Sierra Breathing Council" that can whomp up plans, strategy, and doctrine for proper breath control monitoring programs at the various pool facilities in those quaint little burgs!

[Walt]

Does this sound familiar?
http://www.startribune.com/nighttime-flight-circles-low-over-twin-cities-for-hours/305398901/

Naaaaa,,, just coincidence.
Our local "snooper" has been staying close to home. ( BTW.. Also with a "private owned" tag) It's been hanging out within Beale air space with an hour or two spin over Yuba City.

[Gregory]

Steven Frisch, you've been sliming me for years now, starting with bitter exchanges over climate, and I hear your words asserting your Doppelgänger, "Jon", does not share the same skinsuit. However, you and "Jon" certainly do share a number of linguistic and other patterns and it will take more than a diatribe to the contrary from you to clear that link.

Life is good with the Stygian/Frischian sidetrips only a footnote.

Sometimes itches need to be scratched and mosquitoes flattened.

[Gregory]

If Boardman wanted haute discours he could have added some rather than just adding more droppings to the sandbox.

Scott, after digging into it, you're all wet regarding the pool issue. Even in an anarcho-libertarians gone wild world, the owner of the swimming pool would still get to make the rules, and it is apparently a real issue. Santa Barbara banned the underwater breath holding training after a collegiate water polo player, an expert swimmer, died in their pool last year.

If it actually has training value, I'd expect a protocol to be in place, some sort of a buddy system, to insure the trainee doesn't die.
http://www.phillyvoice.com/us-swimming-pools-ban-long-breath-holding-/

[Gregory]

"Climate change was (and is) going to be a part of school curriculum regardless of common core" -Jon (Frisch?), top

Yes, it was, and is a part of public school curriculum, but it eventually won't be. Climate change, as "Jon" understands it, is a curious hybrid of politics and new age religion, neither of which belong in K-12 science lessons, crowding out the biology, chemistry and physics that kids need in ever larger and more analytical doses to make sense of the world. By a number of solar physicists, a cold phase is imminent and it is only a matter of time before the climate models that are the justification for the alarm will be a public laughingstock.

We still (always!) have weather to contend with and it is perfectly possible for, say, an El Nino to arrive and give the alarm a fresh boost.

Now, back to the more mundane tasks of the morning.

[Paul Emery]

Just a reminder that Todd was off by 12 supporting Romney last time around. He's not exactly an astute observer of national politics I'm just waiting for him to jump in the presidential race I actually vote for Todd over some of the characters that the Republicans are dragging up

[steven frisch]

Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 May 2015 at 08:40 AM

Leave it to Todd to not even be able to come up with original insults. As many in the community have told me he is the stupidest man to ever claim the role of leadership in western Nevada County.

[Bonnie McGuire]

The trend of public education is a joke if it wasn't so tragic. When home schooling made its entrance the teachers union mentality went ballistic. I remember watching our daughter teaching her three children, and thinking how lucky they were. She had quite an organized curriculum where they learned all kinds of things. If they worked hard they could finish early and go fishing...whatever. I remember teachers and other adults being against it until I mentioned she was a teacher. Eventually the charter schools were getting more and more popular because many kids hated public school time wasting where they couldn't learn and do. That's why charters are now so popular. If kids don't want to learn they get kicked out and return to the babysitter public environment. I got my information from a kid who loves his charter school compared to what he endured in public school where the goof-offs determine what gets accomplished.

[Todd Juvinall]

Steve Frisch, I heard the same about you in Truckee! You have no friends apparently. I on the other hand have many. Try harder with the insults Stevie, you are so funny!

[steven frisch]

Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 May 2015 at 12:06 PM

Ah, Todd, replying with the functional equivalent of "I know you are but what am I." No better proof of your intelligence could be asked for.

[Walt]

Really stepping up my carbon footprint. I have got into BBQ cooking.
Pork loin on as I speak. That offset smoker is working now more days than not.
The guy next door has the cherry and apple wood supply. Maybe prime rib tomorrow.
Buy stock in Kingsford.

[Account Deleted]

Gregory - I'm well aware of the fact that tragically, some one died. As kids we would see how long we could hold our breath under water and I don't seem to remember anyone dying. I never said they didn't have the right to make it a law, but that doesn't mean they have to or should make it law. If we're going to pass laws about every single activity that has caused a death or two, there's no end to it. The govt spends so much time on nonsense - why not direct their attention to waste and fraud?

[Account Deleted]

Walt - that's not fair! You're making me hungry already.
I suppose next you'll be posting pictures. Dang!

[Gregory]

Bonnie, charter schools are no panacea. Locally, the worst schools, as measured by the now suspended academic progress index, were charters. The Grass Valley Charter at Hennessey, Yuba River Charter, all the Nevada County Office of Ed charters. From listening to a number of their students pleading to the board to renew their arrangement at Bear River, I expect the "Sierra Academy of Expeditionary Learning" (SAEL) would be at least as bad as their sister elementary school, the Grass Valley Charter, also an "Expeditionary Learning" school.

The Grass Valley Charter's Merry Byles-Daly was named Expeditionary Learning teacher of the year a couple years ago by their national organization, elschools.org. Merry was also the Master Teacher who, at Hennessey two decades ago, was the one in charge of pouring the Common Core math du jour, MathLand, into the school and was the one in charge of reporting back to the board how well it was working. Up until the first STAR exam showed half the kids in the bottom quartile, she was reporting it was working just great!

[Todd Juvinall]

Steve Frisch, you are a hoot! My 3 year old grandson acts just like you. Too funny. But as I said, your attitude has produced no friends for you in Truckee. Sad.

[Gregory]

"As kids we would see how long we could hold our breath under water and I don't seem to remember anyone dying."

This isn't kids playing a game, these are athletes training themselves to ignore the breathing reflex in order to maximize their endurance while remaining submerged, and what happens if you go past the point of no return is to pass out. Under water.

[Todd Juvinall]

If anyone would like to say hello to Steve Frisch you can post on SBC's Facebook Timeline at this ;ink. He misses us all.

https://www.facebook.com/SierraBusinessCouncil

I won't hold my breath for an answer from him.

[fish]

Posted by: Walt | 29 May 2015 at 12:32 PM

Oh Walter...!

My "bitter clinger" in-laws made a batch of smoker prepared pork back ribs......nothing better! Add a 4 pack of Dogfish Head, Midas Touch Ale and you are good to go! As one of the "alienated and unfocused" I have time to savor and appreciate these finer aspects of life!

[Michael R. Kesti]

Todd Juvinall 29May15 01:16 PM

That's yet another of your no-class acts, Todd.

[Walt]

Scott,, " BBQ pit masters" has been on all week. I have been taking notes.
All I did was put a thermometer on that old cooker, and found out I was using it ALL WRONG!
Yup,, that boob tube (TV) became a learn'n tool.

It was babyback ribs and a beef roast on Mon. ( Damn... The ribs were left on 15 min. too long) That won't happen twice.

OH yes.. I got me a new hobby. What we can't eat ( there is only two of us) we sent next door, or to friends down the road.

Another 45 min. on that pork loin. BTW.
Kosher salt on pork (and plenty of it) Yes ,, even the Rabbi will be salivating.

There must be a local cook off coming up soon I can enter in.

Since this IS Nevada Co.,,, I may need to invent a recipe with a quality MJ "spice".
That's ONE way to keep them coming back for more. ( People's choice vote?)

[Walt]

Fish!! Now that's one thing that's yet to be tried!!!
Thanks pal,,, Will have to hit the "fish'n" isle at SPD for on of your kin.
Hummm..... Trout or Salmon??? Hell with it.. BOTH.. The cats will be eating good that night.

[fish]

Posted by: Walt | 29 May 2015 at 01:40 PM

You make up a batch of smoked Salmon and I'll drive up and mow your lawn!

[Walt]

DEAL!

[fish]

SHOCK POLL: Most Democrats Think Illegal Immigrants Should Vote...

Wow.....I'm shocked......that anybody is surprised that the democrats want to import as many new democrat voters as is required to remain in power.

It's shocking I tell you!

[fish]

.....as are....

...as are required!

[Todd Juvinall]

Wow Kesti claims I have no class for posting a link! Who wooda thunk? Jeeze, what a sourpuss.

Hey I discovered Dickies BBQ in Roseville/Rocklin yesterday. Brisket!!! Yum! Even Kesti might like it. Well, maybe not. LOL!

[Walt]

If they are ECO AGW true believers, they must refrain from BBQ.
OH the greenhouse gases a good fire pit puts out.
I'm sure BBQ is outlawed in Frisco.

[Michael R. Kesti]

Todd Juvinall 29May15 02:33 PM

I'll have to check out Dickey's. (Note the spelling.) Have you tried Lucille's?