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28 May 2015

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joe smith

Todd Juvinall | 28 May 2015 at 10:25 PM
Re: adulterine encounters "Anything goes by the libs".

What about you my young man? Divorced three times and vociferous about your extramarital affairs. On this very blog you brag about being "too much of a man for any one woman". You are a vile scum even by the standards of the muslim book. That you attempt to point a finger at anyone in the name of virtue is a true picture of your delusional view of values.

Walt

Called that one...."a new "AKA" will show up soon".. And out of nowhere "joe" shows up.
Funny how someone has issues with capitalizing a "J". That happens out of force of habit.
That LIB "outcome based education" sure shows. They let you fly with that in Berkeley? ( close nuff for a college degree)

Bill Tozer

The way it is:

https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/pb.51560645913.-2207520000.1433133560./10152958400865914/?type=3&theater

Me hates the top .01% of the 1%. The cream of the crop, the top of the top stole White House furniture and silverware. I hate old filthy rich greedy white broads.

Todd Juvinall

joe sounds and writes like MA. Hmmm. Well when all else fails the libs bring out the morality. Funny though how they have none themselves (joe may have some strange "proclivities"). Anything goes. Look at Bernie Sanders, their lib candidate. He is a run of the mill perv who has rape fantasies. Jeeze, he is a Bill Clinton wannabee. Elisabeth Warren is a wannabee squaw, what is that all about?

Golly joe, in all my life I was never called a scumbag to my face. Wanna meet me a call me that to my face? Naw, you are a lib chickensh**.

Todd Juvinall

Oh and there was no post by me as stated in joe smith's post on this thread.

Todd Juvinall

BillT, I bet when all is said and done, the truth may be that the "bimbo" eruptions of her husband were actually women supplied by her so she could stay out of his way. What do you think? LOL!

Walt

On the subject of LIB revisionism,, It seems its not limited to just facts in history.
The Queen of the Progressives has just revised the catholic faith.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/30/the-gospel-according-to-nancy-pelosi/

It;s really time for that old fossil to go....

Gregory

Losing Walter Cronkite was a bigger deal than pissing of a lot of college kids who didn't want to get drafted for a lousy, pointless hot skirmish in the Cold War. Including me. It was middle America seeing dead and wounded GIs on the nightly news that signaled the end.

"Jon" must have been a lefty college kid at the time to have that delusion... about the same age as Frisch. It wasn't the right wing that started that mess, the Speakers of the House were Democrats through the entire war. Beginning in 1955 and not ending until 1995, one Dem after another.

Bill Tozer

My, Mr. Smith, that was not very friendly. I am sure Mr. Todd does not take slaves, marries 12 year olds, or slay infidels with the sword above the shoulder as per the virtues and directives found in the Muslim Good Book. I, on the otherhand, have taken a page from the Progressive Playbook and don't to relationships. I take hostages, just like any good Libhole does when issuing commandments upon the unwashed scum they govern. No slaves, but we are blessed to be their hostages. Oh, sorry about your erectal dysfunction. My condolences to your lovely mate.

Speaking of Iran, we should follow their lead and do what they are doing. Iran sits on the 2nd or 3rd largest natural gas reserves on the planet, yet still need nuclear plants to provide electricity for its unwashed masses. Think I will go hang a banner from the bridge that reads "No fossil fuels!!"

https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/pb.51560645913.-2207520000.1433135635./10152887708670914/?type=3&theater

Walt

It's the usual game Todd,, change thy name, and drag something out of left field that has jack shit to do with anything. "when ya' got nutt'n,, make it personal". That's nothing new. That's what angry LIBS do.

Bill Tozer

Mr. Todd. A good and relevant point you bring to the discussion. Yes, I have considered that Hillary may have hired bimbos to service Bill's warty tool just to keep his hands off her. Like smearing shit on the walls to keep the flies off the ugly bride.

Walt

Who would "jon""joe" vote for?? "50 shades of perv" Sanders? or the head of the Clinton crime family? Decisions,, decisions...
Then there is the "hope" of "changing" the rules of President so "O" can run for a 3RD term. A major attack on the U.S. just might do the trick. A change of administrations during a disastrous event just wouldn't be a good idea.. "Never let a good crisis go to waste."
No wonder not hardly a LIB is running for President. Don't get "wood" reading this "joe"jon".. People know that's a LIB wet dream.

Bill Tozer

Also, Mr. Todd, have you noticed the eerie resemblance between The 1/32 Cherokee Lizzy the Tizzy Warren and Bubba's Janet "I haven't found the right guy yet" Reno. No, they are not exact twins at first glance, but there is something there that I just can't put my finger on or in. Almost like they were separated at birth. Eerie.

Todd Juvinall

BillT, yeah maybe they are sisters from the same Mister!

Todd Juvinall

I read GeorgeB's ditty this morning in the Union and it really looks like he is conflicted. Science is not settled in climate change yet he calls Republicans out as "deniers" for saying so. My goodness, half the country, and now most of Europe are saying WHOA! Maybe the computer models are not that accurate. He also tells us the vaccine scientist was exposed as a hoaxer and wonders in his piece why people may be don't believe all those scientists. Perhaps he should subscribe to Russ Steele's blog?

He seem to have forgotten about (if he ever knew) those emails from the "climate experts" in Britain who removed or remodeled the data showing there is no human caused "change". Oh well.

Joe Koyote

"Vietnam was started by libs and ended by conservatives. That is a fact Jack." --

WRONG!!!!! Jack..

American military presence in VietNam started in 1955 under Eisenhower when the country was partitioned into north and south after the French were defeated. The idea was to have elections after 5 years and let the people vote on whether to reunite the country. When the American supported president refused to participate and backed out of the treaty the revolution started.

Oh yes.. and that "conservative" Nixon, along with ending the war, started the EPA, the consumer protection agency and title nine.. all things today's conservatives would call liberal if not communist.

Todd Juvinall

No JoeK, you are wrong JACK! Eisenhower was asked by the French to help but he only sent some equipment. When the French were obliterated at Dienbienphu, there was a few years of turmoil and then Kennedy sent in the "advisers". That escalated under LBJ (SEATO Treaty). Nixon and Kissinger got us a armistice and then the North invaded and took ober the country. Ford was a Republican an he finished our presence there in 1975. Please review our liberal history books again.

Walt

Nice try JoeK... It wasn't Nixon's EPA that now wants to regulate everything, right down to mud puddles.
It's militant ECO Marxist hippie in a thousand dollar suit that wants that control.

The EPA started out good, then got highjacked. Ca. used to be the model of success for the nation. But since LIBS got their dope stained fingers on it, it's been down hill ever since.

Bill Tozer

Whoever Jack is, he certainly can be found just about everywhere. To multitask is an enviable trail to possess. Extreme multitaskers are an oasis in a dry parched thirsty land. Henry Kissinger possessed the quality Jack has. A true desert bloom. He would be reading 7 newspapers at a time as he was talking policy on the phone, all the while composing a document. That's a fact, Jack. :)

Joe Koyote

Dien bien phu was in May of 1954. Eisenhower was president until 1960.

George Rebane

Interesting recollections of history. I wonder why no one has yet to leap back to Korea in 1950 in this sequence of blaming presidents. Is that because that was a 'UN war'?

BTW, Tricky did end US combat operations in 1973, and pulled our troops out of Vietnam (the usual training cadres remained). And Ford did not finish our Vietnam presence in 1975, the North Vietnamese Army did that when Saigon fell.

Todd Juvinall

So JoeK what is your point in the 9:35 AM?

Yes Ford was the President when Saigon fell. But that was the last of our troops in Vietnam as I recall. He finished the withdrawal begun by Nixon.

I think Truman, a democrat was Prez when Korea started right after I was born in 1950. My Dad, a Republican, loved Truman! Dad was notified he may be called up for fighting but they never took him.

And yes, Jack is now running the "Box"!

Walt

As I see it, the Korean war isn't over. ( and by definition) Only a cease fire agreement is still in place. We still have troops on that DMZ and a sawed off twerp looking to start a new fight. With "O"'s history, if Kim decides to rush the boarder to the South, he would let them. We see how well he handled Putin. "O" grandstanded with "don't you dare or else!"
Putin replied with " Really?? well watch THIS!!" And "O" is now called "Lizard nuts" by our enemies.

Jon

This ridiculous discussion of who started what in Vietnam makes my point better than anything. Vietnam was a chaotic mess, crippled by the changing American landscape back home- old geezers in the govt. either being paralyzed or making rash decisions, but who were actually out of touch with the massive changes taking place in our national culture and sentiment. The youth of the nation finally rising up against authority, after decades of passively following along during the War years. The young liberals who got the ball rolling to a large extent are owed your gratitude.

Jon

The Kent State tragedy was as big a catalyst and major milestone for the rude awakening of middle America. Of course seeing the dead pile up on TV was a huge visual factor as well. I get the impression that Walt is not too sympathetic to the cold blooded murder that occurred at Kent State. Those kids had it comin' ain't that right Walt?

Walt

Give it a rest coward,, It's your line of thinking that lost the war. It was your politics and politicians that cost American lives.
Like I said. When LIBS are in charge of the fight, the conflict is lost.
What is it? "political courtesy"? Don't fight a fellow commie?
LIBS just LOVE to play the "human rights" card, but don't have the stones to back it up.
Thanks to LIBS,, there are countless mass graves, and new ones being dug as we speak.

"O" has done such a GREAT job in the Middle East... uhhh,,,, right? "jon""joe"?

Todd Juvinall

Wow! Kent State. Well, I recollect four kids were shot because the National Guard troops were called in to regain control of the college and the troops thought someone shot at them. Yes a tragedy but not a systematic action.

"jonnie" thinks we should thank the "liberals" for alerting us all to the "liberals" running the country. OK, sure jonnie, I'll give you some of that. Liberals eating their own while the conservatives were keeping the country together and providing the troops. Yep, sure, liberals dissing liberals.Jonnie is a great example of a liberal, befuddled by all that ganga.

Gregory

George 952 AM, I did mention Korea in my 840PM as a reason McNamara and friends kept Vietnam at a tactical simmer rather than a strategic full boil. As a hawk I knew in the '70's was fond of saying, if we wanted the South to win all it would have taken was an aircraft carrier or two within range of Hanoi and Haiphong, and provide the South Vietnamese with F-4 Phantom jets with the range and useful load that could have pounded the north. Would have worked great until either the Russians or Chinese intervened, and then we'd be flirting with WWIII.

The USA entered into a number of defense pacts with allies during the Cold War based on our role for a short time as the world's only nuclear power. SEATO was but one. Big mistake. Fortunately, cool heads prevailed and the Cold War ended with a whimper, but it's less clear what the result would have been had Khrushchev been Shia.

Jon

You're right Walt, libs like to play the human card. Very astute.

Yes, humans over authority, greed and institutions.

Jon

Walt, you may be one of the last remaining Vietnam WarHawks still obsessing and still bitter today. Sorry to belabor this, but since you are absolutely obsessed with blaming those evil libs for our ill advised entry into a local guerrilla war of 50 years ago, what would young conservative Walter done to win that war? More ground troops into villages and jungles? Deeper and more sustained bombing runs? General Dirtmover, I again open it up to you for your military expertise. How would you have won the Vietnam War?

Walt

"befuddled by all that ganga",, and LSD, PCP, shrooms, and plenty of other mind altering pharmaceuticals. " Down with the establishment MAN,,,!" We can say the same thing now that LIBS are the "establishment".. Ya' hip with that ?
"joe""jon" needs to get back to Frisco, and all the wild colors, and where they still have hippe speak. ( never could decipher some of hippie writing. Do you need to be on drugs to understand it? FAR OUT Mannnnn,,,,)
BTW,, what happened to the new age hippie? (OWS) The wannabe 1%ers who just wanted it given to them.

Gregory

"Jon",10:24, Kent State was only called murder by the folks wishing to foment discontent. The Guardsmen had the minimum training for joining the regular Army on a battlefield but were neither trained nor equipped for crowd control, and it's clear they were scared, not in a murderous rage. There was no plan to kill students, and many students didn't even think the guard had real bullets.

"Cold blooded murder"? Not a chance. Scared kids in uniforms shooting kids who should have been scared.

Walt

" General DM" would be old school. Fight to win. Can you comprehend that concept?
Have you kids brush up on their Mandarin. They may need it some day.

Walt

Since China has seen us as weak, they are on a land grab mission.
Yes, things are heating up.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/donaldkirk/2015/05/30/war-cloouds-over-south-china-sea-as-u-s-declares-right-to-waters-and-u-s-warship-arrives-at-syubic/

Think our allies out there feel protected by us? ( nope) They saw what went down with Putin.

Jon

Walt, pretty funny to read your angry rants. Man you really harbor a lot of resentment toward certain people, going way back..holy cow. That was a great dose of 1970s stereotypes and tough talk on 'Nam. Old School! Yah baby, that's the ticket. Get in that jungle and fight to win!

You are actually right about Mandarin. Many any kids are taking it as a second language. Will be extremely useful in the future, because the Chinese economy and their place in the world is out of the barn whether we like it or not. Or would you rather start a War over there first?

Jon

Gregory, alright, massacre. Massacre the accepted description for what occurred at Kent State. No one was held accountable for the real ammunition however. Fortunately that would be different today. Kent State truly changed America in how middle America looks at humans challenging authority.

Todd Juvinall

No massacre jonnie, but you can keep trying. It was as Gregory has written. It really did not change America at all, many people saw it as a provocation and knew the Bill Ayers traitors were instigating a lot of these "uprisings". Vietnam was not fought by the generals, it was fought by LBJ and McNamara and a few of their pals, all politicians. The Tet offensive was actually a great victory for the USA and South Vietnam but it was turned into a defeat by the liberal press. Remember, liberals have been the writers and the historians of most of American history. Now they feel free to trash it incessantly. You are a pawn of the liberal left. Nothing more, nothing less. A stooge if you will.

Jon

Sure Todd. All the many scholars on that subject are wrong, and you are right about Kent State. Maybe Bill O'Reilly can pen your version of the times and the war in which you fought. Of course there were provocateurs on campuses around America, no kidding, some violent, most non-violent. But combined with the restless group of college kids seeing what those politicians were doing to their friends and our nation- it was the kick in the pants America needed to make changes to the status quo, which was responsible for the quagmire of Vietnam.

Don Bessee

'jon' or whatever has again demonstrated that his pool of knowledge is a micron deep.

Walt

LOL!! those LIB "scholars" Anti war "scholars", Berkeley "scholars". ( there... I helped you name them) The same ones that say AGW is real?
Face it "jon""joe" A war started by DEMS,, ran by DEMS,, and was failed by DEMS.
It's that simple. You might as well legalize beastiality. LIBS are good at screwing the pooch. And nothing but crickets from you on the great job "O" has done with the Middle East. Remember? "O" got the Nobel peace prize for what he was GOING to do there.

Jon

god I can only imagine your version of the times.. that could get real interesting. No actually Don, as a kid inside a middle class household, with a couple siblings on college campuses at the time, and a sister's boyfriend back from the war with his leg blown off, I think I understand a bit. But thanks.

Walt

Funny how "joe""jon" like to bring up collage kids of the time. They were mostly draft doggers. ( staying in collage was a way to avoid the draft)
Sorry to hear about sis's boyfriend. But that happens in war. And "your side" sure supported them when they came home. Do I need to remind ya'? ( yup.... They were spit upon)

You need to quit while your still behind.

Don Bessee

a very little bit wrapped in tired talking points. But hey that's why you evade when pressed.

Jon

no Walt, you should really stop the simplistic ranting, but you won't. So thats its for Vietnam. I think this little exercise helps show the depth of irrational and ignorant resentment and hatred of progressives as enemies of America, as described by Walt and his ilk. It all began in those churning years, 50 years ago, and now we see a line of loony Rebublican War Hawks lining up to get into the top 10 for a Faux News debate. Very interesting.

fish

I think this little exercise helps show the depth of irrational and ignorant resentment and hatred of progressives as enemies of America, as described by Walt and his ilk.

Not entirely jeffy....err..."jon".....there are those of us who are not "War Hawks" who recognize, quite legitimately, just how smug, silly and destructive the "progressive" movement in America has been.

...and as always LOL!

Todd Juvinall

Jonnie, I do really appreciate your lefty pals rioting in C Chicago during the 68' democrat convention. The country saw up close and personal hos bad you and your ilk were for the country and they elected Nixon. A belated thanks.

Walt

That 's more than a laugh coming from a guy/gal/it,, that speaks from the wrong side of history. Not one real fact from someone who posts under multiple names, and can't even spell or capitalize it right.
Just innuendo. Hell! you can't even respond to one question. (that would be a sentence with "?" at the end.. There are plenty of them.)
Name some history books you have read. ( You know,, from those "scholars" you mentioned.)

Hell dude,, try WATCHING FOX for once, instead of spewing what LIB news says about it.
I've seen the idiots yell over and over "FOX LIES!!!",, and when ask to name a lie,,, uh,, they can't.

Walt

"jon" must have wrote "O"'s latest speech.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/01/obama-under-my-presidency-u-s-the-most-respected-country-in-the-world-video/

Respected by WHO???? We are laughed at around the world thanks to this somebitch.

Walt

Does any of our LIBS here own guns? Get ready to turn them in.
The NRA fought to let you keep them. This is where you may lose that right.

"Another rule–RIN: 1140 AA47–broadens the number of people barred from gun possession by expanding the ATF’s mental health provisions on background checks. The NRA pointed out that because most mentally ill persons pose no threat to society, the new regulations will actually become “snares [for] masses of mostly harmless individuals.”

From
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/01/obamas-unified-agenda-means-more-gun-control-by-executive-fiat/

Most LIBS are harmless.. But Liberalism has been deemed a mental disorder.
It says so in many a book.

Jon

You've taken the looniness to the outer limits Walt, so I must bid you adieu. But hay, you have a nice afternoon, and keep your eagle out for those funny planes!

Todd Juvinall

Liberals like jonnie are all the same. We lived through thew times he is now some sort of exert about. We are just wrong we did not see or hear what we did. Thanks jonnie for getting me straightened out. LOL!

Walt

Hay "jon".. This story is just for you.
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/MyNameIs-Protesters-Rally-Around-Facebooks-Fake-Name-Policy-305672511.html

Is that where you are headed?

Bill Tozer

Look how young The New Generation looked, destined not to repeat history. That did not work out as planned.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=68g76j9VBvM

Walt

What was I saying about China?
"In an op-ed for the New York Post, Michael Auslin, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, argued that China’s bold moves in the South China Sea is essentially a gamble that Obama simply does not have the will to challenge “a major land and power grab.”

Bill Tozer

More strolls down memory lane, fellow maggots, scoots, and puke buckets

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pQlIIybHTDU

Bill Tozer

Hey, let's close this "old Sanbox" with one last song from that era. It would not be complete without this one. Here's to you Paul Emergy, Mr. koyote, and Co.

BTW, it is Nam not Vietnam and many died by the hand of Fargo, Demo, Espinosa, and Tomahawk.....aka..the Gook Removal Squad. Them were the days. Next time start the party without me.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dATyZBEeDJ4

Don Bessee

Ah yes, yet again the 'jon' cycle plays out. Sorry not real facts just some talking points with no cohesion or depth of historical perspective. It says 'Power to the student uprising! Don't you guys love that I learned history from my older sister who went to school once back in the day.' chili fries for everyone! LOL!

Bonnie McGuire

Amazing discussion. I remember having discussions regarding Korea and Vietnam in the Union, but not the same things I'm reading here. The UNO teacher involved said these two conflicts were police actions, not war. Korea started under Truman. General MacArthur believed wars were fought with the idea of winning as quick as possible to save live. When the N Koreans ran out of ammunition a cease fire was called by the WH and officials from their safe perch. Gen Mac watched the supplies that would kill his men moving along the road that would kill his men, so he ordered them to destroy the supply line. Pres. Truman angrily removed him from his command. Meanwhile, somewheres between the Korean and Vietnam conflicts the Supreme Court ruled that Communists could work in the State Dept. I wrote them that if we were at war with communists killing our men ...how could they do such a thing that might jeaprodize their safety? Years later I watched a documentary about our soldiers being told to retake some worthless hill over and over resulting in the needless deaths of so many men. Their commander broke down crying. I remember Sam Pello saying they even had trouble getting enough ammunition. WWI, WWII, Korea and Vietnam were all executed by Democrat Presidents...As Wilson said...WWI proved the International Banking Federal Reserve was a successful way to finance the war. As Banker Rothchild said, "I don't care who wins, just so I get to finance it."

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