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03 May 2015

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Bill Tozer

Ok, how about some optimism from The Big Apple.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/03/opinion/sunday/the-end-of-california.html?_r=0

Bill Tozer

First Amendment push back. Very non PC.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/shooting-vicinity-texas-community-center-hosting-draw-prophet/story?id=30777312

Russ Steele

Two gunmen 'carrying explosives' attack anti-Muslim art contest in Texas: Suspects dead and security guard wounded at 'draw Muhammad' event that offered $10k prize

Two suspects were gunned down after shooting the guard in the leg outside the Curtis Culwell Center in Garland

Building and surrounding area was placed on lockdown by a SWAT team with around 100 attendees still inside
Reports suggest the pair were carrying explosives at the time, and another two bombs were discovered nearby

The American Freedom Defense Initiative event offered a $10,000 prize for the best caricature of the prophet
Involved a keynote speech from far-right Dutch politician Geert Wilders, who has linked the Koran to terrorism


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3066779/Police-officer-suspect-said-injured-shooting-outside-art-anti-Muslim-exhibition-art-depicting-prophet-Muhammad.html#ixzz3Z8TIRFGS

Don Bessee

Where is the ACLU?

Bill Tozer

Mr. Bessee. I don't know where the ACLU is on this matter, but I do know Hillary Rodclam has valiantly served with them in the past. She was been rather busy lately, but still has found the time to be quite the disorganized opportunist. Like watching a jayhawk getting a big acorn stuck in its throat. Greedy little thing she is.

http://www.livetradingnews.com/former-clinton-adviser-dick-morris-on-hillary-rodham-clinton-103897.htm#.VUcx8XBHaK0

MikeL

Russ, the winner in the art contest in Garland had a piece called "Pissed Prophet". A really mad looking likeness of Mohamud was placed in a jar of pig urine. Oh the horror..que the religon of peace.
This reminds me of similar incident when the two heavily armed Christian gunmen stormed the art exhibit in New York and shot up the place...oh wait this didn't happen...never mind.

George Rebane

RR reader and commenter George Boardman's latest (4may15)Union column is worth a read and discussion. Mr Boardman is the latest community voice to point out the idiocy practiced in Nevada City by its tin-eared city council, planning commission, and other do-gooders of known ideological hue. I think you can read it here -
http://www.theunion.com/opinion/16131348-113/george-boardman-real-world-economics-and-western-nevada

Patricia Smith

I realize this is off topic, but i would like to extend an invitation to all of you to attend an informational seminar this Thursday, May 7, at the Empire Grange, from 1:00 - 3:00pm. The Grange is located at 11283 Grange Ct. off La Barr Meadows. Sue Taylor, the only person licensed by the State of CA to teach seniors about the benefits of medical marijuana, will host a workshop, Aging with Grace.

The purpose of the seminar is to inform seniors how cannabis can oftentimes replace harmful pharmaceutical drugs, improve the quality of their lives, and how to nagivate the requirements to obtain medical marijuana legally and sfaely.

This is a free event and is open to the public. I know some of the RR readers are MMJ users (and others could definitely benefit from cannabis) so I hope you will take this opportuity to educate yourselves.

Walt

Now that a good Texas cop bagged his limit of radical Muslims, maybe we can send their heads back marked "return to sender", with a note, "Here in the U.S.,, we shoot back".

Seems the event had a good suspicion that some nuts would show up. They hired their own SWAT team. Looks like the event was some good bait.

Someone's First Amendment rights were protected by another's 2ND Amendment rights.

Walt

Here we go again with the attack on "air attack" of wild fires. KCRA is running the teasers for their "in depth" report.

Todd Juvinall

NBC News justt carried the water for Clinton's foundation. My goodness their noses are right up his tookus. Disgusting.

Also, the two Jihadists ran into a straight shooting cop in Texas. He had a service piece, they had automatic weapons. That Second Amendment works!

Don Bessee

Forbes had an eye opening analysis that showed if you get the average American welfare benefit you are in the top 20% of world incomes. Add the illegals and you are really talking redistribution. Walt- Had not considered the bait angle, interesting. Hilarious they called them former jhihadis after an 0 appointed judge gave one a pass ( $600 fine, 3 yrs probation) in spite of 1500 hrs of phone taps full of jhihadi planning. These now really former jihadis were 2 of the low hanging fruit for picking TX. We all know that whole TX audience was packing heat too and the jhihadis would have also lost the fight if they got in!

Walt

Don. It was possible that other radical nuts had the same idea, but those two fools got there first. Upon seeing their fellow idiots assuming ambient air temp., tucked tail and ran. Anything is possible.
If I had my way, I would have those dead bodies propped up in the town square with dimes on their eyes.(in good ol' Texas fashion)
A good pork BBQ is in order for winning this small battle. A pig carcass is appropriate to fill in as pine boxes.

Russ

Global Labor Glut Sinking Wages Means U.S. Needs to Get Schooled

The long-sought rise in American wages is being suppressed by a global labor glut that is undermining policy makers’ efforts to wring slack from the U.S. job market.

The most effective way of combating this oversupply is to promote increased training and education of U.S. workers so they can provide skills unavailable elsewhere to employers, according to experts who have studied the problem.

Who is going to do this training, the Union controlled teachers in our K-12 schools? The liberal college professors, who are more interested in creating more low information voters then training thinkers who have "skills unavailable elsewhere"? If you train thinkers, they will see through the liberal brain dead mash. No, we are all screwed by a broken education system.

Walt

News on the Ca. pro pot game. Now the Union wants in on the action. Yup unionizing "trmimmigrants", and the pot industry in general. That should keep the price of weed good and high. Just wait till local 420 strikes for higher wadges. If you grow your own, will you by law need to have union labor "harvest" it for you?
Union thugs going door to door just to see who has a plant or two? ( unions have those special rights where no warrant is required. You can bet Ca. will give them that.)
yup,, things WILL get interesting.

Don Bessee

SEIU is late to the game. United Food and Commercial Workers claim over 1000 pot workers already. I wonder how many they lost in the LA voters crackdown on hundreds of pot shops and delivery services? Do they take street corner workers for a cut? You can find their testimony at the BOS here when the BOS put measures S on the Ballot here. The shake out of who is on which side in 16 is getting clear and the geometry for the legalizers is very very complicated. 36% water reduction gang. Nothing is inevitable, didn't they say Hillary was going to Prez the last inevitable time?

Bill Tozer

Oh, the water reduction gang is none too happy with Starbucks ruthlessly getting water for free as humanoids and pretty flowers are begging for a mere drop of H2O on their parched tongues. Looks like another factory will soon be shuddering their doors and heading off to greener pastures. But, but, but it is all for the thirsty chilledrun in Tanzania.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/people-furious-where-starbucks-ethos-193500963.html

More stuff fit for the Sandbox:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102645955

But, but, but, the libs and like minded folks assured us there would be enough doctors in the house. Yep, I told ya so. Why wait weeks for an appointment when the local ER is open 24/7, especially considering we all got health care insurance now. Exactly what happened in the Commonwealth of Mass. Longer wait time to see "your" physican and more folks opting for the short quick trip to the Memorial Hospital.

George Rebane

Apologies to PatriciaS for the late posting of her 134pm comment(above). I just discovered that TypePad in its wisdom had stuck it into the spam folder from where I rescued it.

Administrivia - If any reader's comment does not immediately post, please tell me in another short comment and I will rescue it ASAP. Thank you.

Don Bessee

Sounds like the spam filter was just doing its job considering the content! lol ;-)

Ben Emery

Todd,
NBC wants access to the Clinton's, especially if Hillary becomes President. Don't you know that the news is now under a for profit business umbrella instead of a public service to gain rights to the public airwaves? Profit motive doesn't always make for the best product/ service.

Todd Juvinall

I think the NBC lovefest was all about being simpatico with their favorite people. One must be very naive to forget the liberals own most of the press and have all my 64 years. Now they have to make a profit to stay alive but if they were going to be concerned with money making they should or would all become conservative organizations. Liberals fail at making money and are usually inheriting it or getting freebies from grants from the government.

As Bill Clinton said the other day, " We did not "knowingly" cheat on our taxes" or something like that. I mean come on, Hill and Bill have never had real jobs but are worth a gazillion bucks. How is that possible?

fish

Posted by: Ben Emery | 06 May 2015 at 08:02 AM


Concur......if history has shown us anything it's that a "state owned" press does a far better job at bringing the masses fair and unbiased news.

George Rebane

fish 844am - careful now; there is clinical evidence that tongues placed over forcefully in cheek have been known to penetrate.

fish

Posted by: George Rebane | 06 May 2015 at 08:53 AM


Whaaat? Ben bills himself as a student of history he knows that the Pravdas, Isvestias, and Xinhuas do a far more credible job of delivering news.....

....sorry......a moment......snort.....sniffle.....


Sorry George.....couldn't get through it a second time.

fish

I didn't dare try and work "the masses" in twice lest I bathe the computer monitor in coffee!

fish

Douglas Keachie says:

May 7, 2015 at 1:37 am
Hell hath no fury like an editor scorned.

Reply

jeffpelline says:

May 7, 2015 at 7:14 am
More po-dunk from our local newspaper.

Reply

Wonder if he was referring to you jiffy.......

Patricia Smith

Don Bessee, you should be front and center for the Aging with Grace seminar. You might actually learn something useful and truthful about medical marijuana.

Polly Parrot

Maybe Don, you should tell us all where you've been buying your pot? I supposed you have a recommendation? LOL!!!

fish

Posted by: Polly Parrot | 07 May 2015 at 01:48 PM

Worst Sock Puppet evah!

fish

WE NEED TO ACCPET GLOBAL WARMING DATA WITHOUT QUESTION.......BECAUSE SCIENCE!


"Signals that baffled astronomers for 17 years traced to observatory's microwave oven"


http://www.sfgate.com/science/article/Source-of-interference-that-baffled-astronomers-6249454.php

George Rebane

fish 402pm - It's not nice to gratuitously trammel the faith of True Believers Mr fish.

Walt

Great way to get sued there Patrica. Con the old folks to ditch their meds for pot.
There are always a few in the crowd that would take that "advice", and soon drop dead.
Then their families will come looking for just who gave them that "advice".

fish

fish 402pm - It's not nice to gratuitously trammel the faith of True Believers Mr fish.

Gratuitous......I'll give you gratuitous.....just to show I'm not above kicking "the religious" when they're down.....

Australia PM advisor says climate change a U.N.-led ruse to create new world order

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/05/08/asia-pacific/politics-diplomacy-asia-pacific/australia-pm-advisor-says-climate-change-u-n-led-ruse-create-new-world-order/#.VUy9A87rN5y

As an aside I think that this is a shocking display of just how bad internal discipline has become.....I expect a little better from my NWO!

Barry Pruett

Liberals get trounced in UK...

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/05/08/british-prime-minister-david-cameron-on-track-for-narrow-majority-exit-poll/

fish

Posted by: Barry Pruett | 08 May 2015 at 06:35 AM


Yeah....unfortunately "conservative tea" in England is served with a generous dollop of socialist "cream".

I think the Brits have decided to vote themselves out of existence.......a cautionary tale!

Patricia Smith

Walt, no one has ever died from using marijuana and I'm not telling seniors to ditch their pharmaceuticals for pot! In fact, I didn't tell them anything as I wasn't the speaker, but Sue Taylor started her talk by warning seniors to discuss using MMJ with their primary care giver first and to NEVER stop taking medications without their instruction and approval.

I was very happy with the turnout as over 100 seniors showed up to learn about MMJ despite that we only had four days to promote the event. In fact, we are scheduling another follow-up workshop as they had more questions than we could answer in one session.

Maybe if you had attended you could make an intelligent comment rather than talking through your hat.

Don Bessee

On this 70th VE day I wish to say a heartfelt THANK YOU to the few remaining WWII vets! Truly the Greatest Generation.

George Rebane

Seventy years ago on this VE I was a little boy in Liederberg, Germany just having been liberated by a combined arms unit of Patton's 3rd Army. Although I spent WW2 with a target on my back, I was happy that my parents had the good sense and fortune to get us to southern Germany so that we could welcome America's greatest generation into the ruins of the Third Reich.
http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2010/05/the-war-ends-in-liederberg.html

But pretty much overlooked by the whole country, on this same day tens of thousands more GIs and Marines were fighting the greatest battle of the Pacific War on Okinawa, having just executed the world's largest (bigger than D-Day on Normandy) amphibious landing. They too need to be remembered more on this day than they were in 1945. In that 10-week battle alone we lost over 14,000 killed; over 77,000 Japanese died defending Okinawa. That was war.

Todd Juvinall

When I was Chairman of the Nevada County Republican Central Committee in 1996 I invited a Iwo Jima veteran to be a Keynote Speaker to the Spring Dinner at the big building at the Fairgrounds. By the time this hero was finished there was not a dry eye in the place. What those men (boys really) went though is unimaginable.

Walt

Patricia. I am well versed on the subject of weed. Been there,, done PLENTY of "that".
So it's not like have no clue. Have has to deal with MDs, both pro and con. Yes, even had a "script". So I'm no idiot when it comes to weed. I also know the down side as well.
Sorry woman,, I don't "talk out of my hat".
Does weed have some benefits? For some,, yes. I have no issue with honest MMJ, and the "non profit" way. It's the profiteers I take issue with. I have been a "victim" of those profiteers. So yes. I have an ax to grind. Thank the good Lord "S" went up in smoke.

Don Bessee

Dr. R. you are so right, lest we forget. That operation was a taste of what we were going to see when the full invasion took place. The navy took a beating, especially the radar picket ships from the kamikazes. When a lefty guilt tripper starts talking about the immorality of dropping the bomb they display their lack of understanding. The use of the bomb in fact saved Japanese lives when you consider the civilian casualties (including suicides) on Okinawa. My step-dad managed to survive a number of Marine operations in the pacific as a mud Marine. God Bless em all!

Don Bessee

Another 0 foreign policy success. On the ground tests show sarin and vx chem traces at an undisclosed military site in Syria. The traces are very recent and show they did not give it all up. This confirms the reports from the field that had been discounted and then toss in the chlorine gas and you have another gift to scumbags by 0. So how do you think that 0's ongoing gifts to the mullahs is going to work out?

George Rebane

DonB 814pm - You are exactly right. To date the nuclear bomb has been an overwhelming life saver ever since we dropped them on Japan - there it literally saved millions of lives. And without nuclear induced MAD during the years since 1945, we would undoubtedly have had another European war as the USSR sought to bolster its failing economy through conquest of western Europe.

Patricia Smith

Walt, you say you have no problem with people who honestly need medical marijuana and then you denigrate ASA for educating them how to use it safely and legally. Can't have it both ways dude.

Joe Koyote

Interesting article on Yubanet comparing Nevada County to the other proposed Jefferson counties. It appears that Nev. Co. has very little in common with the others and would probably have to carry the economic load for the rest. Many of those counties are bottom feeders and would fold without government employment, unemployment, benefits, etc.

http://yubanet.com/regional/Nevada-County-vs-State-of-Jefferson-Comparison.php#.VU4zmEvX_wI

Todd Juvinall

JoeK, yes it appears the feds have wiped out most private employment in the area and replaced them with bottom feeders working for them.

Russ Steele

Elections have consequences. The lefty global warmers were soundly defeated in the latest UK election.

The Conservative Party’s victory in the UK General Election means that it will be able to put its own man in at the top of the Department of Energy and Climate Change. The result of the election should help to move forward the establishment of an onshore shale gas industry in the UK as the Conservatives are fully behind drilling for shale gas in the country.

—David Cameron, 10 Downing Street, 13 January 2014

A key part of our long-term economic plan to secure Britain’s future is to back businesses with better infrastructure. That’s why we’re going all out for shale. It will mean more jobs and opportunities for people, and economic security for our country.

How if we could get a similar regime change in California.

George Rebane

JoeK 927am - 'stasism' is the belief that tomorrow is revealed through the extrapolation of current practices kept rigidly unchanged. Corollary - if it hasn't been done, it can't be done.

Joe Koyote

so George, if I am decoding your cryptic message correctly, what you are saying is that somehow the low employment and poverty that afflicts most of the Jefferson counties will be taken care of and all the "government" jobs that now pretty much supports those counties will somehow be replaced by the new regime? Just how will that occur especially in the transitional phase from counties to statehood after the funds from CA are discontinued?

Todd--I sense that you are somehow blaming "government" for the lack of jobs, etc., and while this is the typical conservative response, the timber and mining industries that previously supported those counties depend on infinite resources for long term success. That is not the case. While timber is renewable, it is no longer as plentiful and would soon be gone as clear cutting would probably be the MO due to no gov't regulations. And what about national forest lands? How would Jefferson get around those regulations? Mining is a bust because it too will eventually (if not already) be exhausted and then what? Maybe Jefferson could legalize prostitution and become the "hooker state." That would require very little infrastructure investment other than seizing a few fleabag motels via imminent domain.

George Rebane

JoeK 1027am - A good question which I have already answered in these pages, and which I will answer again this coming Tuesday.

"imminent domain", say what??!!

Todd Juvinall

JoeK, you obviously have only been in the Sierra Nevada a short time. Timber is plentiful and it has been a steady crop for many many years until the hoax of the Spotted Owl's demise was foisted on the country. Now it burns up. Mining and grazing were also a plentiful way to make a living until they (government) decided to regulate it out of existence. I recall just a few short years ago when candidate Obama said the coal industry could certainly exist but it was his goal to regulate and fee it into oblivion. So we see his success. It is government spurred on by econuts and vested interests that have ruined the county job markets. If you don't believe that you are at best naive or worst, stupid.

Gregory

Regarding Russ 9:41, the Brit election may well have partially been an issue of Climate Change activism being a net negative for the leftist Liberal Democrats.

Keen Observer

and in other news...

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/05/07/congress-argues-cant-investigated-insider-trading/

Don Bessee

Maybe JK is telling us they are coming to take away our stuff sooner than we thought! lol

Walt

"Mining is a bust because it too will eventually (if not already) be exhausted "
Say WHAT!!??? Just where do you get that idea Wile E.? There is PLENTY of gold and other minerals in these here hills. Mining didn't get stopped because "we ran out" of the stuff.
( Yes, an ACME anvil once again has fallen from the sky and squarely hit the Koyote).
A little test for Joe. Q: What really closed the mines in the state, and why? And be specific.
( Hint.. Gov. played a role) And to make it a tad easier, you can stick to Grass Valley. ( plenty of easy to find history on it.)

Walt

Patrica. Oh yes I can. ( have it both ways)
The provisions in "S" that gave "renters" the right to destroy someone else's property
was a bone head idea from the start. ( You remember,, "altering" the plumbing to make a proper grow house.) The house that I used to own is still uninhabitable and under repair from the actions of one of your "harmless" clan. They made their profits and stuck me with the aftermath.
And don't try and use the excuse that " not all are like that". One was enough for me.

Patricia Smith

Walt, I'm not going to try to change your mind about anything. If you want to hold on to incorrect "facts", be my guest. You've earned the right to be uninformed.

I doubt that you ever read Measure S because there was nothing that allowed anyone to alter plumbing for a grow house without proper permitting. It was intended to put an end to people ripping up housing.

If you form your opinions based on the actions of one person, you are going to live in a very narrow world. I suggest you lock your doors and stay inside so you don't have to encounter anyone you disagree with.

fish

Did anyone doubt that this has been the goal all along.........?

STATE BUDGET

Growing California cap-and-trade fund attracts surge of spending proposals
The state’s cap-and-trade fund will see a revenue surge

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/#storylink=cpy

Jon

Walt, of all your thousands of rambling, nonsensical posts of your opinions, that last one about Measure S and renters allowed to modify and/or trash owners plumbing was- frankly - the dumbest of the dumb. If you cannot summon up enough logic, reason and facts to overcome your anger and emotion on certain issues, you should stop posting. Patricia is being overly kind to you.

Todd Juvinall

Wow! Jon is at it again. Sorry "Jon", Walt is correct and you are not. But you are a very sharp name caller to those better than you. What a hoot!

George Rebane

fish 911am - you point out yet again the fundamental weakness of government by the stupid and cynical(evil?) politicians - buying votes with unrealized revenues.

Jon 1001am - re Measure S, what is not explicitly prohibited is allowed. Are you arguing that what is not explicitly allowed is then prohibited?

Don Bessee

Yes Dr. R. they are still trying to play that game, we all saw how well it played with the electorate in November. Even Pascale of Yuba Net called patiie out on that in our debate. Sounds like 'jon' was involved in that 'scientific poll' the asa blathered about that they claimed showed 70% of the County supported measure s when it was exactly the other way around. It lost bigger than anything in the state! They are at least consistent in sticking to their dogma however far afield from the truth it is.

Russ Steele

FROM CARLY FIORINA’S BOOK, Rising To The Challenge:

California is now the home of 111 billionaires, with assets greater than the entire gross domestic product of all but 24 countries in the world. It’s also home to the highest poverty rate in the country. In between, the middle-class that survives is largely composed of government employees–the very bureaucrats who have milked the middle class of the private economy into virtual extinction.

I am beginning to like this lady more and more! She is a straight talker.

Jon

Obviously Measure S had no impact one way or another on any provisions of a well drafted landlord/renter lease agreement. I couldn't care less about Measure S, but the fact is Walt is flat out intentionally ignoring facts. Walt, for such a self-sufficient, anti-regulatory guy such as yourself, seems you were sloppy with the supervision of your own property. Did you want a govt. agency to monitor it for you?

Patricia Smith

Measure S is over and done with so arguing about its content at this point is…pointless. In the ongoing War on Drugs, battles are won and battles are lost. My only interest in all of this is to ensure that patients have the right to choose between harmful pharmaceutical drugs and natural, herbal remedies. I don't believe how we choose to heal ourselves is an area the government should be involved in. I have zero confidence in the FDA to regulate drugs that are safe. Instead they OK drugs that make their manufacturers the most money, but I support the right of people to decide for themselves if they want to use pharmaceuticals.

Todd Juvinall

GeorgeR, I just learned that Charles Bronson was 100% Lithuanian!

George Rebane

ToddJ 1232pm - Didn't know that. He always looked Slavic to me - could well play the part of a Russian peasant or a Red Army soldier. His Wikipedia bio seems to confirm that with both parents being of Polish descent.

Todd Juvinall

I read the bio in Breakhaert Pass by IMDB. It said this.

"The archetypal screen tough guy with weatherbeaten features--one film critic described his rugged looks as "a Clark Gable who had been left out in the sun too long"--Charles Bronson was born Charles Buchinsky, one of 15 children of struggling parents in Pennsylvania. His mother, Mary (Valinsky), was born in Pennsylvania, to Lithuanian parents, and his father, Walter Buchinsky, was a Lithuanian immigrant coal miner."

George Rebane

PatriciaS 1128am - Yes, beating S to death once more is getting old. But I am interested in whether you can point us to a model ordnance for MMJ - one that would overcome the factors for which S was opposed - that has already been adopted by some jurisdiction, or is in a draft form which you and ASA would like to see implemented in California.

Todd Juvinall

Two policemen killed in Mississippi. One white one black. Perps are four blacks.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/10/us/mississippi-police-officers-shot-dead/

George Rebane

ToddJ 1259pm - He don't look like no Lithuanian. But a Pole, very much. Besides, had his father been a Lithuanian, then his surname would have ended in 's' (overwhelmingly the custom in Latvia and Lithuania), and not the Polish 'sky'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Bronson

Patricia Smith

George 11May15, 1:01PM I've only seen one intitiative that I thought covered every issue fairly and simply, but it didn't make the ballot. Everything else is a work in progress. I'm sure there will be provisions included in the 2016 legalization initiative that will make me cringe, but you and I will have to wait until it's written before I can comment.

Don Bessee

Pattie there are already 3 versions filed for 2016 with sec. states office and I believe 2 have been green lighted for signature gathering as of last week. Why no comment on them? One of them was co-authored by one of your local lawyers. It seems the S issue came up because Walt was observing the fact of any ballot prop is that the devil is in the details and the real world consequences are myriad, some intended. Often like 215 they leave it vague intentionally and we have seen the consequences of that approach.

Jon

I thought the horse was beaten? Leave it to 2 people here to keep the obsession alive.

Walt's example of his trashed property had nothing to do with any past, present or future initiative. Walt, you signed up a bad tenant. How about some personal responsibility?

Patricia Smith

Don, I don't feel the initiatives that have been filed so far are worth commenting on because none of them (most likely) will make it to the ballot. I think the ReformCA will be the only one to qualify and it hasn't been written yet. They are waiting to see what comes down through Sacramento first. To be continued…

PS Did I miss a post somewhere? Where did Charles Bronson's ethnicity find its way into this conversation? I worked with him on a TV movie once. Wasn't the warmest person I've ever encountered. As an aside, Ed Asner was on the same movie so there was always plenty of lively conversation.

Jon

Great trivia question Patricia for the hard core movie buff.

Todd Juvinall

Particia, I brought Bronson in here as this is the "sandbox". I read the bio on the movie website that Bronson's parents were Lithuanians just like George, our host.

Jon

Patricia,
Friend of mine has also worked the business. His clear choice for Worst Person all time in front of the screen- Burt Reynolds. Hands down.

Patricia Smith

I never worked with Burt or even met him, but I bet I could find some examples of "worst person status" that would top him easily!

Jon

Perhaps since my friend worked with Burt after the plastic surgery and subsequent loss of his former macho-stud status- that likely had something to do with his demeanor. The Worst Person category would have more than a few worthy contestants in Hollywood.

Should we tell Todd that there is a difference between Estonia and Lithuania..?

Don Bessee

As to beating a dead horse on measure s it was 'jon' being a punk a** biatch with the smarter than any of you attitude in his reply to walts observation (that was in fact correct) that got it going. Funny his liberal shifting of personal responsibility to the victim instead of the pot grower is his oh so logical response. It would be funny if it was not so stereotypical of the 'enlightened' ones.

Bill Tozer

Best person in Hollywood, judging by his humility, common sense, and salt of the earth demeanor that I worked with by far would be Sam Elliott. Nicest couple would be Sam Elloitt and Katharine Ross. Best Hollywood couple not into the Hollywood scene, not living in LA, and spends weekends breaking Broncos and horseback riding: Sam Elliott and Katharine Ross. The worse list is to long to list due to space constraints.

Every once in awhile, you come across a "star" (or well recognized face) that is not an neurotic insecure self-centered egomaniac. Sam is one of the few.

Charley B. a Pollock? I have to disagree respectfully despite what Wikepedia states. Mr. Bronson was an Native American whose body was carved out of a hillside and was a nature lover as well. One of his relatives is still alive and became a current U.S. Senator from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Charles also had an inate way with wild critters due to his Native American roots.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v2ISW6wCxXk

Account Deleted

Ben Emery came out of his coma to discover that black lives matter. Then he thinks I haven't heard of it, although I knew about it long ago. I thought perhaps he would like to view the latest outrage against a black teenager who was almost killed by a mob.
http://defund.com/african-mob-brutally-lynches-teen-for-being-a-race-traitor-in-texas/
In Texas, of course. Ben will go back into his coma now. Crickets per usual. Where's the outrage? It seems that only some black lives matter.

Jon

Tozer, I also heard nothing but good comments about Burgess Meredith from my friend who worked with him, probably 30 years back now.

Hey Bessee, just like to point out hypocrisy and ignorance when warranted. Lots of fodder from certain players. Are you of Lithuanian descent by any chance?

George Rebane

re ToddJ 419pm - Hard to believe that after all these years on RR with so many posts, comments, and the autobiographical sketches in 'My Story' identifying and discussing my native country and my ethnic roots, some readers still don't know that I was born in Estonia of Estonian parents, grandparents,... . Where on earth did the Lithuanian connection come from?

Perhaps a perusal here would help set the matter straight.
http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/my-story/

Todd Juvinall

Oops, sorry George. I have forgotten. Well, since I am what we in America call a Heinz 57 I cannot claim one ethnic people as an ancestor. Though the Roman poet Juvenal is claimed by som family members. He lived during the time oc the First Century AD and was a GASP, political satirist. I even have his writings!

So, if I offended you George, please accept my humble apologies.

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Here ya go, Ben - "I hate white people writing for black people; it's so offensive. So we go out and look specifically for African-American voices. Yes, it's all about reverse racism!"
Does this black life matter?
Crickets crickets crickets. Where is Ben? Hiding under a bed? Sucking his thumb?
Where's the outrage? Don't white lives matter? Think of the writers in Hollywood fearing for their future from racist rants like this. Maybe a kickstarter fund for them? Ben? Ben?

Jon

Obermuller, did you ever consider that perhaps Ben is having a bad day in his long fight? God man, give the man a break.

George Rebane

ToddJ 824pm - No offense taken; Lithuanians are a fine people and neighbors on the Baltic. I too have some Swedish and German blood mixed in from long years past. Just wanted to set the record straight ;-)

Bill Tozer

Jon, Brother Ben told us all loud and clear when he announced his sphincter ailments not to go easy on him nor cut him any slack. His wish is our commando. However, my Brotha from anotha Motha, dear Benjamin, apparently has been a tad grumpy lately, especially on Motha's Day of all days. I know my sista from anotha mista, Bro Ben, does not seek sympathy. Perhaps mo understanding of his sphincter problems would help us all empathize, but he has yet to divulge details and I am not in a position to see for myself.

If....and this is a big if, if Brother Ben really said he "hates white people writing for black people", then he would not have anything to write about. No more long essays complete with no numberous supporting links excusing bad behavior by black people. Hey, just a few years ago Ben discovered the old book "Black Like Me". I read that in the 5th or 6th grade, well before Ben's miracle birth into this world. Yeah, I read Malcom X in junior high and later in high school drove down to the local public library to protest them banning Do It! by Jerry Rubin. Also joined a protest cause the local junior....ER...community college rescinded a speaking engagement by Eldridge Cleaver. Heard he came black from Cuba since hearing about the New X-Box in Amerika, but I digress. Bet Bro. Ben never sat next to John Carlos or Tommie Smith and shot the breeze after their abrupt departure from Mexico City. Boy, Those were the days, lol.

Ben, Ben, Ben. Been there, done that. This ain't the 30's when struggling labor was organizing into unions to fight for fair treatment, nor is this the 60's (a tumultuous period about 50 years ago caused by Flower Power, drugs, sex out of wedlock, and vulgar Rock-Roll),
So, Ben, reach back in time and be a train tramp again with Utah and organize the hobo camps to stand up to Da Man. Or, just replay one of those 400 years of slavery tapes that keep repeating in yer noggin. Play it again and again, Piano Man, and maybe someday somebody will throw some loose change in the tip jar. Yes, Ben, the noise in your head is starting to bother me. Peace out bro, don't let the nuke juice mess with your fro. :).

fish

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 11 May 2015 at 09:32 PM

TESTIFY!

Bill Tozer

Dr. Rebane., "ToddJ 824pm - No offense taken; Lithuanians are a fine people and neighbors on the Baltic.". Very true. Their bond with Estonians runs deep.

A Lithuanian was working his tail off trying to fall a tree. He was sawing like there was no tomorrow and making little progress. An Estonian passed by and offered some help, which the Lithuanian gladly accepted. The Estonian picked up the saw, pulled the cord, and the engine instantly revved up. The Lithuanian jumped back asking "What, what, what's that noise??"

Ok, I heard that joke from a Norweigian fellow who used a Finnish chap sawing like mad to no avail, but since the topic did not include our Scandinavian brothern, I improvised. Now, a Pollock, an Apache, and Charles Bronson walk into a Swedish German bar and the bartender asks.....


George Rebane

BillT 1119am - Very funny Mr Tozer. BTW, few know that Estonians are the stealth Nordics along with the Finns. Both are racially, ethnically, culturally (including linguistically) identical. Pre-Christian Estonians also contributed to the Viking terror during the turn of the first millennium, plundering Russian river villages all the way to the Black Sea, and ravaging the peninsular coasts of Europe down to the Pillars of Hercules. To this day the country's seals and jewelry reflect that epoch in Estonian history.

Russ

Wondering why the economy is still in the tank?

The cost of federal regulation neared $2 trillion in 2014, according to a new report by the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI).

Ten Thousand Commandments: An Annual Snapshot of the Federal Regulatory State, a report by Clyde Wayne Crews, CEI’s vice president for policy, also reveals that the U.S. debt now exceeds the size of China’s economy.

“Federal regulation and intervention cost American consumers and businesses an estimated $1.88 trillion in 2014 in lost economic productivity and higher prices,” amounting to roughly $15,000 per household, the report said.

Ddi you miss the $15K?

Bill Tozer

An elitist liberal turned progressive walks into bar with a big parrot on his shoulder. The bartender asks "Where did you get that?" The parrot answered "Harvard Law."

Jon

Did you guys read Ole' Jeb's second response today to the question of the Iraq War? He apparently misheard and misunderstood the question about going to war just like W. Right Jeb. Apparently you misjudged the primary voter appetite for another Middle East War Hawk wasting our money.

Best of luck in dealing with yet another Bushie in your primary. What a nightmare..

fish

Looks like the Catholic Church wants in on the action.....Strauss didn't invent the "Noble Lie" the Catholic Church did.....looks now like they want it back.


http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/241769-popes-top-adviser-blasts-us-climate-skeptics


Jesuits......socialists is priestly garb!

sigh!

Bill Tozer

Well, ya learn something new every day. I learned that the State run Obamacare exchanges have to be in the black by 2016. Glad somebody snuck that one in.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-obamacare-money-20150513-story.html

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/05/319485-obamacare-problems-presidents-home-state-embarrassingly-bad-lawmakers/

More outreach, marketing, and better packaging is needed.

Bill Tozer

Oh my Fish, does that mean the Pope is going to pull out his toenail clippers and castigate them naughty Koch Brothers? Looks like the Vatican wants to take over the demonizing of the demon possessed Kochs now that Harry Reid got pushed aside. Maybe an exorcism is in order.

fish

Oh my Fish, does that mean the Pope is going to pull out his toenail clippers and castigate them naughty Koch Brothers?


That is entirely possible my friend.....and in the hills there was much rejoicing as the simple hill people saw the hated ogres vanquished by the Jesuit horde.


......and in other news and other locations (wink, wink) young Ben Emery discusses tax policy!

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