Sandbox – 15dec15

[We now hear the latest from the steroidally augmented politically correct. At Brooklyn’s PS#169 the teachers have banned even the use of the terms ‘Christmas’, ‘Santa Claus’, ‘Thanksgiving’, and several others in school affairs as hearkening back to a time of error and religion.  Adding to their decades long progress in neutralizing the American intellect, our educators are opening a second front to extinguish our culture and cultural values.  How long until the Left establishes newspeak.gov, an online service for those who demand their daily prophylaxis against being insensitive, racist, homophobic, religionistic, discriminative, …, and foster proper gradations of inclusivity, balance, gender neutrality, global perspective, ecological sensitivity, celebration of transgenderism, … on our road to becoming the new Socialist Person (I almost said ‘Man’)?.  gjr]

Comments

[jon smith]

According to the US Forest Service an armed illegal Mexican felon living on federal land growing thousands of marijuana plants is officially described as a "displaced foreign traveller". http://www.redding.com/opinion/a-pot-grower-no-a-displaced-foreign-traveler

[Todd Juvinall]

I guess we need to ban the calendar month August since it was named after Augustus, the first Roman Emperor and conqueror of millions of fellow Europeans in 1 AD.

[Paul Emery]

Yet another anecdotal example by our host to further his argument of the decline of our education system.

[Bill Tozer]

Like him or not, Mr. Paul has had a couple of comebacks lately that made me laugh. That last one was a good one, and used "anecdotal example" to boot. Gotta give credit where credit is due.

[George Rebane]

PaulE 823am - Indeed Paul, but the reports of examples in a similar vein that come in across the country are legion. And the cultural behavior of our newer generations attest to it. Now that is synoptic and not anecdotal.

[Bill Tozer]

Well, this is how it used to be. Guess things have changed.

https://www.facebook.com/armslist/photos/a.10150151249996601.280428.152548881600/10153052406541601/?type=3&theater

[George Rebane]

Liberty retreated another step yesterday in Seattle. I just have to get this report off my chest. Their city council passed an ordnance that requires Uber and Lyft to give unions the names of their drivers. A small klatch of drivers showed up demanding the companies supply them benefits and also pay a minimum wage.

The ability of an individual to contract his services to another without the state intervening is rapidly disappearing. It is the socialists who decry corporations, then tax and regulate them heavily, making the cost of labor soar, then dunning them for reducing or offshoring their workforce. And to put a ribbon on it, it is the socialists who do everything possible to make it difficult to start a small business or independently sell your services or produce.

The message is clear, make the workforce feel that their job is there only through the mandates of government, or that government will send you a check if you don't work. So the easy exit question is 'who you gonna vote for?' Class dismissed.

[jon smith]

In the Christmas spirit I just put another faggot on the fire. Certainly some would think this is homophobic, but tell that to a bundle of twigs.

[Paul Emery]

George writes:

" And to put a ribbon on it, it is the socialists who do everything possible to make it difficult to start a small business or independently sell your services or produce."

So I guess you can blame the Socialists for making it illegal for Marijuana cultivation to be a legitimate cottage industry giving self employment opportunities to thousands of rural families.

[fish]

Posted by: Paul Emery | 15 December 2015 at 09:22 AM

So I guess you can blame the Socialists for making it illegal for Marijuana cultivation to be a legitimate cottage industry giving self employment opportunities to thousands of rural families.

Even the Sovs knew that the small garden plot holders were the only thing keeping "Workers Paradise" from sinking into cannibalism. That was why they looked away.

You guys botch the big stuff in spectacular fashion....but who the fuck wants another Peoples Revolution after just being assigned his Dacha.

[Gregory]

Paul, they also blocked the franchising plans of Murder,Inc. So many needed whack jobs, no easy way to find a professional to get 'er done.

[Gregory]

The 9:16 reminds me of an old music joke... What's the difference between a bassoon (fagotto in Italian) and an oboe?

Bassoons burn longer.

Also works for violin vs. viola.

[fish]

MSNBC reminds you that you are all racists.....not that we needed to be reminded.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2015/12/14/melissa-harris-perry-brings-parody-to-life-calls-star-wars-racist

Jedi....shit....that might as well just be Jed......a racist name if I've ever heard it! Just trying to keep the Vader down bitch!

[Bill Tozer]

Hey Paul, if the Socialists were in charge here, all the pot from our cottages industries who flourish just enough to pay the special exhorbent taxes. Just close enough to almost slay the Golden Goose, yet leave her breathing. If only the socialist would be taken seriously, then life would be splendid indeed. Stupid rednecks. I hope they die off sooner than later, or at least soon than you so you can outlive them all.

[Bill Tozer]

Well, to be fair to Jon and Ben,, the international community did not like us under Bush. Disliked but feared. Now we have nations liking us again, but no fear or respect. Alas, we can't win.

http://observer.com/2015/12/vulgar-and-racist-anti-obama-rhetoric-inundates-russian-pop-culture/

[Gregory]

effie and the Lickspittles are all a-twitter over a local chapter of Girls Who Code Club opening up.

I'll type quietly so Jeffie can't hear, but the comparatively recent low participation rates of women in computer science nut was cracked a few years ago by Maria Klawe, the current President of Harvey Mudd College. Rather than special classes only for women (how sexist is that, Jeff?) they revamped their intro to computer science class so newbies of both sexes wouldn't be overwhelmed by those who were self taught (including bad habits) in high school or earlier.The result? CS declarations (something Mudders are allowed to do as Sophomores, after they've all taken the solid introductory classes in mathematics, chemistry, computer science, physics, engineering and biology) have gone from 10% female to about 40% female at a top undergraduate computer science school. (also at or near the top in mathematics, chemistry, physics, engineering and probably also biology).

I wish the politically correct locals setting up the girls only club well; it will be interesting to see how they handle the wide age range (6th thru 12th grade) and even wider range of mathematics preparation; Mudd's entering classes have near perfect College Board scores in mathematics so all have profound understanding of elementary mathematics when they sit down in the lecture hall chair, and that makes teaching computer science topics all that much easier.

For Nevada County boys who are barred from Girls Who Code, and girls who don't need their instruction in pink, the Mudd intro classes are available in MOOC form. See https://www.edx.org/school/harveymuddx

CS001x and CS002x use and teach Scratch, a simple language from MIT... I think Girls Who Code also uses Scratch. Meant for middle school and early high school. CS005x is patterned after Mudd's CS 5 Introduction to Computer Science, and uses Python, a widely used real world language.

The lack of women in silicon valley is more a statement on the often dysfunctional and misogynist (not to mention ageist and family-unfriendly) culture of silicon valley than it is about not enough girls from Kansas choosing to "code"; they've been largely unable to hold onto the women who've ventured there.

[disclaimer: I married one of Mudd's Women who coded, they're nothing new. Teri was Math '77 and was an adjunct math professor at Sierra College when she passed away]

[Gregory]

Make that "Teri was [Mudd] Math '78".

[Gregory]

Jeffie was right on it.... took about a half hour:
"December 15, 2015 at 2:26 pm
For someone who’s resume reads “independent software engineer at my place,” Gregory sure has a lot of “expert opinions.” ROFLOL."

Golly, Jeffie, I think you mean "whose", not "who's" (looks like you're still the candidate for bonehead English), and I expect you've never seen my resume which most decidedly does not include that title. I put that on my LinkedIn page because it's more honest than some fantasy company which is the preferred LinkedIn dodge that you're doing what you're doing at home. As part of my MSEE I also passed the comprehensive Master's exam in computer science and all three of my inventor patent citations (US Robotics and Cisco Systems) involve computer science. In the case of the Mudd intro to computer science class referred to above, I took the '70's version of that, too.

I expect your resume pretends Sierra Food Whine Art is a real magazine, and probably includes what your LinkedIn page does not, that your BA was in Rhetoric; I guess you're still a bit embarrassed about that choice. Just couldn't get into a good law school and settled for "journalism"?

[Gregory]

Jeff broadcasts that snippet from my LinkedIn page whenever he doesn't have any substantive criticism of what I've written; I suspect he's used it upwards of ten times now.

[Paul Emery]

So the so called freedom loving free trade get the government out of my life types have no interest when it comes to growing something in your farm that has commercial value and selling it in a free market.. that's beyond the scope of freedom to that crowd. Guns to those on FBI watch lists no problem but certain plants in your back yard no way.

[Gregory]

Paul, I have no problem with someone growing forbidden plants but your concept that growing pot is a path to wealth for Nevada County gentleman farmers (ie farmers who don't want to work too hard) is unrealistic... the ONLY reason there's a decent profit margin is BECAUSE of the quasi-(il)legality.

If it was legal, it wouldn't be any more profitable than tomatoes and just as much work per dollar of profit.

[Account Deleted]

"Guns to those on FBI watch lists..."
Owning a firearm is a Constitutional right.
What other Constitutional rights should be taken from a person who is on the 'watch list'?
If they are so darn dangerous why are they out walking around?
What kind of due process does a citizen deserve after they find out they are on the list?
If a person is on the list, do they still get to drive motor vehicles and buy gasoline?
If the FBI wants to 'watch' some one I guess we can't stop them, but it's completely illegal to deny a person their rights without due process.
And they can still go buy all the weapons they want on the black market anyway, so the whole darn idea is just feel good blather for the Gruberized like Paul.

[Jon]

"If a person is on the list, do they still get to drive motor vehicles and buy gasoline?"

Yes they do. I think that a gun serves a slightly different purpose there, Scotty.:) Are you concerned about ending up one day on a terrorist watch list and being unable to hoard even more guns and ammo in your Idaho bunker?

[Gregory]

The first link in the due process changes required for the "gun safety" advocates to use the No-FLy list would be notification that some nameless bureaucrat has revoked your 2nd amendment rights and the ability to travel without challenge on commercial air transports. The FBI refuses to do that.

Tom Sullivan, the radio talk show guy, was once on the No-Fly list because an IRA terrorist shared the same name... but he's a pilot and could still buy and fly any airplane he wanted. I heard him talking in the pattern at Marysville just west of Beale AFB, he was flying a Beech Baron at the time, capable of taking off with nearly a ton of explosives if one didn't want a legal round trip. Senator Ted Kennedy had a similar IRA problem and it took him and his staff three weeks to get him off the FBI list.

The No-Fly list use to revoke gun rights will backfire if it isn't dropped; I suspect it will be moot once the primary silly season is over and DEMs aren't so focused on getting the party rabble to support Clinton and to cough up some cash to help make it happen.

[Paul emery]

Gregory

Why not let the marketplace decide that.

[Walt]

I hear there is a "jon" on the "no fly" list. Going to fork over yours?
So "jon",,, Those on the same list can still vote? That's just as dangerous as having a gun. All it takes is one vote to elect the wrong LIB.

[Gregory]

Now we have Jeffie wanting to compare his income to mine. LOL:

"December 15, 2015 at 3:01 pm
Gregory,
Want to compare business income forms?"

Jeff, if you want to make your tax filings public, be my guest. Maybe someday you'll even be able to charge for your "magazine".

[Gregory]

PE 3:35

It already did... growing pot is what poor Mexican farmers did for years in order to make some money on the side to buy tequila. In the meantime, I've already stated that I've no problem with people growing but it's not worth fighting over. A moot point, your friends will be the first to give it up when it becomes legal and serious industrial growers take the market.

[Bill Tozer]

In 2011, Russian intelligence warned us about some radical Islamic terrorist from Georgia (not e thhe peanut farmer's Georgia, the USSR one). It's a mystery why the lad was not put on our no fly list, being an Islamic and all after the Ruskies alerted us.
Well, that lad never did get put on the no fly list. He did not use a gun, either, as his weapon of choice used by that rascally refugee was a crock pot to mess up a perfectly good Blue State Marathon.
His mamma said he was such a nice boy.
See, no guns, no being on the no fly list, Nothing to see here. Them Russians have some messed up Intel alerts I hear.

[Jon]

hay "walt", what's life really like walking around your rural fortress all day in absolute fear of the world?

[Walt]

Winter is just getting started... AGW my ass.
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/12/15/biggest-storm-this-season-breaks-daily-snowfall-record-in-denver/

[Bill Tozer]

Walt, AGW has already begun.. Buy heavy jackets and wool beanies. Man caused this and expect more. And feel guilty for not being part of the solution, you carnivore you. Shame, shame on the NRA for causing the 118 year old record snowfall to be smashed by more than double. It would have been worse if not for the Paris accord.

[Walt]

Now that's original "jonnie" boy. Yup, the Ca.(barely legal) .468(the 50 cal. is illegal) belt fed, FLIR, motion sensing, laser ranging, computer (Big Blue surplus) managed pre-fab defence towers show up on Friday.
Life is GREAT! Now you should see my up-armored jeep! The Bradly gets here on the 1ST.
Man. Those open carry permits are even harder to get than the CWPs. People like the "jon" wet their girly undies at the first sight of a gun exposed to sunlight. They run screaming down the street. Why is that?

But they have no problem letting the same kind of people vote.

[Bill Tozer]

Fish @ 1:18pm.
Delayed reaction. Oh, please, please, remind me again that I am a racist.
Now, let us reason together.

Come and let me tell you about a man named Jed. Poor mountaineer barely keep his family fed. Then one day he was shooting like a fool, and up from the ground came a bubblin' crude. Oil that is, Texas Tea.
Jed, West Virginnie hillbilly, gun toting fool, fossil fuels, coal state, and Granny clutching her Bible. It's all there, my good fellow. I liked Emimy Mae as well. See, proof that conservative Americans are racists, crazy gun lubbers, gross polluters, and a whole bunch more unspeakable violations than being a mere racist. I offer no defense. I even like Dr. Drysdale, the money grubbing banker. May God have mercy on my wretched soul.

[Walt]

Come to think of it "jon",, it's the "jons" of the U.S. that "live in fear" of the likes of the freedom loving "me"s of the place. All you guys want to do is ban, and outlaw things and make life rough.
Yup,, "weening off oil". Sure thing. And replace it with what? How will planes fly?
how will goods get to market? Heating in the Winter? Nope,, the green weenies never have a viable solution to that. Talk and "feelings" are cheap.

Just like Dizzy Izzy and the SBC. "BAN DREDGING!!! IT causes mercury to spread!".. then spends big bucks (and receives it) for doing the same damned thing. ( It's OK,, when they do it.)

[Jon]

Walt, 65 degrees in Manhattan over the weekend. Never happens in December.

[Jon]

Walt, jesuschrist, what's your obsession with quotation marks? I see a dozen in your last rant. Not normal.

[Bill Tozer]

I once posted here that there is absolutely nothing in Obama's background to prepare him for the likes of Putin. Nothing.
An old WW2 story is a perfect example. Closing days of the war in Betlin. East meets West. There were GIs and British troops outside a building waiting. A Russian came up and asked what was the hold up? The Americans explained that there were women and children in the building along with the penned down German soldiers. The Russian said "Give me that"' grabbed the flame thrower from the GI 's arms and torched everyone inside. Get er' done, Russian style.
This link might just be wishful thinking, but there are some places where our reputation proceeds us. And the Russian's reputation as well.
http://www.truthandaction.org/isis-fighters-cut-off-beards-tucks-tail-runs-russia-iran-close/2/

[Gregory]

This is for Jon 5:09

You'd have peed your pants listening to All Things Considered today; global warming has been a solid fixture in the coverage for years and when they interviewed one for the New England warm temps he correctly noted that El Niño conditions have always been related to warmer than normal winter temps, as is a strong polar vortex that keeps cold air at the pole. Not getting the answer they wanted, the NPR interviewer asked about the global warming effect... and their chosen expert gave a scientifically valid answer... without AGW the high of 70 might have been 69 but no one knows.

What is the world coming to when not even NPR can vet their experts to follow the party line.

[Walt]

That's all you can come back to bitch about? " " marks?????
Get with the program... son... Yup,, leave that oil tit question alone. You need that black "mamma's milk" as much as the rest of us. Let us know when your all "weened" off it.

[Walt]

"jon" is like a chew toy here in a room full of doggies. ( watching my two Shepherds take turns grinding on the same chew stick gave me the analogy.)

[Don Bessee]

Gee the 'jon' blue. It happened so you can not say it never happens. Not even going to bother with the blasphemous 512. Its his birthday so its two words etc. I would engage in debate rather than noting what you are about but you never bring anything worthy of debate, just bernie sanders talking points and your bankrupt knowledge bank. LOL

[Jon]

Hey "Don", time for the Climate Denier in you to come out. Here's an obvious chart to try to rip apart. Good luck:) Deniers----ready, begin!

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/12/15/3732080/nasa-2015-hottest-year

[Jon]

Hay Greg, that chart is open for your perusal and critique as well...sorry for error of omission. Don is only about half the Denier you are.

[Don Bessee]

It would seem the global warming wanna be profiteers and wealth redistributors did more than I could ever do to make my point in Paris. Thanks! ;-) LOL

[Walt]

You can do better than that "jon". The NASA crap is known already for book cooking, right along with the NOAA scandal. Your pal's altered the real facts and OMIT the parts where they ADDED "readings" where there ARE NONE. (adding "red" boxes in the data)
This "news" of yours is old news. Just new to you.
http://notrickszone.com/2015/11/20/german-professor-examines-nasa-giss-temperature-datasets-finds-they-have-been-massively-altered/#sthash.cJYeZ1Oe.dpbs

http://www.climatedepot.com/

http://realclimatescience.com/2015/11/record-crushing-fraud-from-noaa-and-nasa-ahead-of-paris/

Damn "jon",, that was easy to rip to shreds. Made of rice paper?
And from a lot more reputable places than from LIB central, office of Chicken Little.

[Gregory]

Jon, the answer can be found in Gavin Schmidt's (the director of NASA-GISS) twitter where he did a little oopsie a day or so ago, accidentally letting out the truth when it contradicted his official story:

https://mobile.twitter.com/7Kiwi/status/676530541500481537?p=v

Yes, the troposphere, in order to be the driver of a warming climate as predicted by the coding of the general circulation models, needs to lead the surface warming, but the satellite record, and the radiosonde record, is flat.

Let's recall the words of Richard Feynman:
“It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong”

[Gregory]

Now, Jon, I've been in the same small room with Feynman at a physics colloquium, and I'm quite sure he'd repeat that for you if he wasn't dead.

[Gregory]

"Walt, 65 degrees in Manhattan over the weekend. Never happens in December."
Jon 5:09

Jon, the record high in Manhattan for December was 75 degrees in 1998 and it also was the first year in an El Nino couplet. It's what El Nino does to weather... remember that thing weather that's not climate?

[Gregory]

More for the education of "Jon"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt7gPCioqTg

[Bill Tozer]

Anybody see the debate? Missed it so I will have to see what the resigned to lowering heads media has to say. No passion.
Until then, I will read the tweets and see some first reactions. I have a feeling it was non-eventful. But just the name Bernie gets gets us al riled up.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/764113250389381/?type=3&theater

Ah, I see a Cruz fan out there. And Rubio fans. This Trump thang is getting my fellow neo-cons all discombobulated.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/764082770392429/?type=3&theater

[Bill Tozer]

My, this is a change of events. Actually, WOW. Wondered why Russia was giving air cover and weapons to the Syrian Rebels (US backed) a couple of days ago to fight ISIS. Now it makes sense.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/in-apparent-reversal-obama-admin-not-seeking-regime-change-in-syria/

[Jon]

Hay "walt", funny stuff, but I do think most of America and the world use the scientific charts and analysis of NOAA and NASA for a multitude of purposes. Major corporations, institutions and insurance companies use them for projections into the future. So help us- which credible scientific organization has accused them of being fraudulent? Lord Monckton isn't in that category :)..just so we get that out of the way.

[Gregory]

There's NASA, Then there's NASA-GISS, James Hanson's domain that was tolerated because of his ability to shake Congress down for big buck satellites and other sundries. It's ironic that in order to sell the warming, GISS plays down satellite measurements and focuses on their heavily adjusted, sliced and diced (aka homologated) terrestrial temperature datasetwhose warming trend is disturbingly equivalent to the average "corrections" that are applied.

"Jon", wake up.

[Walt]

Your Right "jon".. Even the gov. used that manipulated horse shit (and still do) to impose laws. The ECO bastards that have infested gov. don't give a crap about real facts.
Just like pushing unviable energy sources, and making us pay for it.

[Walt]

BTW "jon", The "chicken littles" of your belief (agw) claimed the North Pole would be "ice free" as of today.(actually two months ago) because of AGW. (back in the 90's)
That prediction sure worked out swell.

[fish]

I guess not then.......

http://www.mrctv.org/blog/video-chris-matthews-asked-whether-he-still-has-thrill-his-leg-not-amused

[fish]

I guess we need to start working on unseating Ryan next.....

New Ryan budget hands out goodies for NASCAR tracks, racehorses, teachers, college students...

Meets Obama's Priorities...

Funds for 'climate' deal survive...

Planned Parenthood Praises...

The Republican Party.....standing against the poor judgement offered by Democrat spenthrifts.

/sarc

[Gregory]

Fish, I thought you were more realistic than that. There will be sausage as long as there is more than one politician involved.

[fish]

Posted by: Gregory | 16 December 2015 at 01:48 PM

Sometimes I take leave of my senses.

[Walt]

"jon" would sign this.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/16/yale-fail-ivy-leaguers-caught-on-video-clamoring-to-kill-first-amendment/

"“I decided to take this campus free speech debate to its logical conclusion,” said Horowitz, who asked students if they’d sign a petition calling for an outright repeal of the First Amendment. “The result was this unbelievable display of total stupidity.”

In fact, Horowitz discovered a solid majority of the students asked willingly signed the petition, with several expressing their enthusiastic approval for his anti-First Amendment efforts.

“I think it’s really awesome that you’re out here,” said one student."

[George Boardman]

Ryan's budget deal features more spending and larger deficits thanks to a lot of sweetheart tax breaks.

Explain to me how he's different from Boehner.

[fish]

Posted by: George Boardman | 16 December 2015 at 04:12 PM

Explain to me how he's different from Boehner.

He's insufficiently mockable for my tastes......making fun of Boehner was easy.....like hunting dairy cattle with a deer rifle.

Ryan still (until this makes the rounds anyway) has a shred of credibility.

[Jon]

"walt", why would I sign that? You are making no sense. If you can point to a single comment I have ever made in relation to free speech issues on college campuses, please do.

[jon smith]

Walt 12/16 10:33. "Even the gov. used that manipulated horse shit (and still do) to impose laws. "
There are hundreds of private climatologists whose livlihoods depend on making correct predictions for private agriculture. It doesn't behoove them in the slightest to bamboozle their clients. As a group, these prognosticators are in the climate change camp. Even Georgia Pacific (owned by Koch) has a team of climate specialists to help them predict long range forecast for multi decade crops such as pine trees. Based on climate change predictions, Coca Cola has bought swaths of land in Mexico for FUTURE orange production (Minute Maid). Currently their base is further south in Belize but they expect more favorable growing conditions to migrate northward.

[Account Deleted]

j.s. at 4:35 - "Based on climate change predictions, Coca Cola has bought swaths of land in Mexico for FUTURE orange production (Minute Maid). Currently their base is further south in Belize but they expect more favorable growing conditions to migrate northward."
Now why is it that they expect this to happen?
They aren't a successful company because they spend a lot of money on useless land.
Is it because -
A: The climate in that particular part of the world will become better for growing oranges no matter what?
B: They believe in AGW, but think nothing will actually be done by the developed countries to prevent it?
C: Oranges can (and are) grown in several areas of the US and Canada, but Belize and Mexico are simply better places to grow them for a higher profit and AGW is a great way to act all PC while hiding the fact that they grow their oranges in a way that would infuriate the greenies and the human rights crowd.

[fish]

Yep.....good thing we vote for republicans.

http://mobile.wnd.com/2015/12/secret-deal-quadruples-foreign-workers-in-u-s/

[Gregory]

Jon s 435
"As a group, these prognosticators are in the climate change camp.”

Source for this claim?

[Account Deleted]

Jon is so cute when he tries:
"I think that a gun serves a slightly different purpose there, Scotty.:)"

Uh - well, that's true to a point.
I use guns for target practice and hunting.
Others use cars to murder innocent people.
Others use gasoline to make molotov cocktails and incinerate folks.
Driving a car is a privilege, Jon.
Owning a firearm is a Constitutional right.
Now go back to your mommy and have her help you try to write something intelligent.

[Bill Tozer]

Guns are not for hunting, shooting on the range or even self defense. Guns have a higher purpose.

http://ij.com/2015/12/493217-this-may-be-the-best-argument-for-the-2nd-amendment/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=Partners&utm_term=PRM7&utm_campaign=

[Bill Tozer]

https://patriotpost.us/articles/39517

Go easy on Jon. He is stuck with Rodclam.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1187027937978717&set=p.1187027937978717&type=3&theater

[Bill Tozer]

Scot, guns are not for hunting, target practice, or self defense. Yes, they are well fashioned for those endevears, but guns have a higher calling.

http://ij.com/2015/12/493217-this-may-be-the-best-argument-for-the-2nd-amendment/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=Partners&utm_term=PRM7&utm_campaign=

[Walt]

Sure you would sign something like that "jon". You have no love for the 2ND Amendment, so why would you give a rats ass about the 1ST? The 2ND Amend. was placed second in impotence, because the idea was for it to protect the first.(and not symbolically)
These idiots who think its a great idea to do away with free speech forget that sooner, rather than later it's what they will say that will come back to bite them in the ass.
Someone won't like it.. Then watch them bitch.

The 4TH branch of gov.(the press) won't like losing that little document either.
Look at all the lies they get away with telling today.

[Ben Emery]

George,

"At Brooklyn’s PS#169 the teachers have banned even the use of the terms ‘Christmas’, ‘Santa Claus’, ‘Thanksgiving’, and several others in school affairs as hearkening back to a time of error and religion. Adding to their decades long progress in neutralizing the American intellect, our educators are opening a second front to extinguish our culture and cultural values."

Maybe for the first time in American history we are starting to take a serious and objective look at those values and we are not liking what we are seeing. Christmas holiday in present form is a materialistic holiday that has little to do with Jesus Christ. I celebrate Christmas as well as Winter/ December Solstice. For the record Jesus was not born on December 25 and the day was picked by Constantine around 300 years after Jesus death. http://www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/emperor-constantine-faq.htm

Santa Claus perpetuates the idea that "being good" equals presents, so what happens to children of poor families? Are they to believe they are less good because they receive less gifts and most definitely less expensive gifts?

Thanksgiving was the natives saving the lives of desperate people and in return we committed genocide in the name of Christianity. http://www.ushistory.org/us/3b.asp

I think the Brooklyn’s PS#169 are on to something here.

[Jon]

"Sure you would sign something like that "jon". You have no love for the 2ND Amendment, so why would you give a rats ass about the 1ST?" Walt

"walt", with logic like that I can see why you've been such a success in school and life.

[Walt]

I have been vary successful in both "jon". House is paid for, and a good six figures in the bank. How bout you?? (and not a dime in debt)
I don't expect you to even come close to that. I get the idea your a gov. recipient, since your all for "wealth redistribution". Those who work their ass off are not big on getting their hard work (earned income) given to some dead beat who refuses to. Or some baby factory welfare case.
You said you would take in a few Syrians,, but didn't take up my challenge to take in some local homeless.(If you did you would be bragging about it.)
And we have given back to our community. There is a building honoring our family name for that support. ( no need for you to know where, or who from.)

[Bill Tozer]

Boy Ben, you must be a barrel of laughs around the holidays. Do you wear black this time of year?

[Bill Tozer]

Hmm. Equal treatment.

http://teapartyorg.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=4301673%3ATopic%3A4077734&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic

[Bill Tozer]

Oh, those rascally teenagers from Morocco. What will they think of next?

http://www.infowars.com/sweden-muslim-migrants-batter-gay-man-to-death-wrap-snake-around-his-neck/

[George Rebane]

BenE 933pm - Since you apparently know nothing about being poor nor how poor kids think of Christmas, your politically correct remarks are understandable. When the Rebanes were poor, along with countless other refugees, none of us kids ever had a thought like you describe. We knew that the reason we didn't get anything or very little for Christmas was because we were poor, and that would change when we were no longer poor. It has nothing to do with being bad or good, we didn't know any kids who were that stupid.

This says nothing about the commercialization of Christmas which actually is the result of secularizing the holiday.

[fish]

Posted by: George Rebane | 17 December 2015 at 07:10 AM

This says nothing about the commercialization of Christmas which actually is the result of secularizing the holiday.

This should be mentioned more often....the corporatist left desperately wants to wring god from Christmas. We should be cheered though that people are paying attention to this conscious displacement of their culture in order to accommodate the new democratic lever pullers!

[fish]

Hey.....Nancy and Barry there's a new bitch in town!

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/12/paul_ryan_s_first_deal_is_just_like_john_boehner_s_old_ones.html

DC "conservatives"......to a man...... pillow biting submissives!

[John]

Please correct me if I am wrong here, but I recall a few weeks ago our host George revealed that the poster using the handle of "jon" had registered with an email address of "@jeffpelline.com"? In reading the comments posted by "jon", they all have the same style and snarky attitude that is reminiscent of Jeff Pelline himself. This makes it easier for me to understand, and somewhat more comforting to remember that there are not really multiple people with the exhibited "traits", but simply more of the same from a single person posting from "[email protected]

[Ben Emery]

George,
Actually I know a great deal about being financially poor. I grew up in a working poor house, many of my friends were living in complete poverty, and all through my 20's I lived below the poverty level with income. Being working poor is relative and about a person perceives themselves. Abject poverty is a different story. Not a coincidence most of my very poor friends growing up were black. 7 people and three generations jammed into a dumpy 2 bedroom apartment was the living arrangement of my best friend. Eventually he lived with us for about 5 years.

I don't blame you for not understanding the psyche of today's kids due to your age and disconnect. If a child is told that if they are good Santa will bring them gifts. If one child gets a wooden truck while another receives an xbox from the same Santa what does that tell the kid who got the wooden truck? Technology has change the ballgame. You are good with numbers and formula's but are extremely lacking in the soft science department.

[Ben Emery]

Bill,
Living in reality just changes how we celebrate. It is actually false Christians who have the problem here. There are many winter celebrations/ holidays and to condemn people for not only recognizing your celebration is the problem. Jesus taught tolerance and acceptance and false Christians promote it is all or nothing.

It doesn't mean it is a negative time of year. We celebrate all that we have, we celebrate all that is given to us, we celebrate the birth of Jesus at Christmas Eve service at United Methodist. My wife comes from a very devout Christian family and I was raised Catholic more or less.

My mother, wife, brother and wife, friends, and myself will celebrate the December/ Winter Solstice as we do every year as well. Since I am non practicing Jew (moms side) with many Jewish friends I do recognize Hanukkah as well. So this time of year is tons of cooking, eating, drinking, and time spent with loved ones celebrating life.

Have a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays since there are so many this time of year.

[Ben Emery]

"...false Christians promote it is all or nothing." means it is all Christian celebration or nothing, which is funny since the religion Christianity was born out of has its own celebration earlier in the month of December.

http://www.reformjudaism.org/hanukkah-history

[Walt]

Ben is now officially the local "Grinch". "jon", is his one horned reindeer dog.

The "spirit of giving" Ben,, You need to "spend" to get something to give. Deal with it.
The young ones in the Emery house call you "Uncle Scrooge"?
I can see you shooting out the neighbors Christmas lights with a pellet gun.
I don't recall anyone giving you crap about whatever festivities your "religion" holds.

Now Paul, on the other hand, wanted to dance naked down at the river. (yaa... picture that...) Now THAT would cause little children to seek therapy. That "celebration" needs to stay on private property.(and a good screening fence)

[Paul Emery]

Thats right Walt. The local Druid Buddhists sect celebrate XMAS by meditating naked at their favorite pool on the South Yuba right in the middle of the State Park. They call ourselves Dru Buus by the way. The Druid Deists gather nearby celebrating the coming of the Great Whatever that created our universe. Freedom of religion or non-religion serves us all in this Holy Solstice season.

[Russ Steele]

Hmm? Humans Caused a Major Shift in Earth's Ecosystems 6,000 Years Ago

"We upended a pattern held for 300 million years, and that may mean we are causing a new phase in global evolution"

000

"However, this study is not likely to help set the date scientists will use to mark the start of the Anthropocene. The Anthropocene Working Group is due to make that decision in 2016, and they’re more likely to rely on the accepted practice of identifying a well-defined line in the sand—or in most cases, the rock—that represents the sum of environmental changes denoting the shift from one time period to the next.

Chair of the working group and professor of paleobiology at the University of Leicester, Jan Zalasiewicz, says that line is likely to have been drawn in 1952, when fallout from thermonuclear weapons tests deposited a distinct radioactive signature in sediment around the world.

“Radionuclides do not represent as big a change to the Earth system as do the changes in population dynamics described in the paper, but they do provide a sharper time marker,” he wrote in an e-mail. And that’s what the working group is looking for. What the current paper contributes to the discussion, however, may be something even bigger on Zalasiewicz’s radar."

Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/humans-caused-major-shift-earths-ecosystems-6000-years-ago-180957566/#6s8XMCvDO6pp9W1x.99

This is beginning to look like some justification for Agenda 21 corridors between habitats.

[drivebyposter]

"Humans Caused a Major Shift in Earth's Ecosystems 6,000 Years Ago"

I wonder why 6,000 years is a chosen time period? (Near East agriculture?) plus they particularly mention North America.

So far as I know, the biggest correlation/potential causation is the death of megafauna in the Americas and Australia at essentially the same time human populations were introduced. That happened quite a while before the time period given. I suppose that might put paid the notion of indigenous Americans as stewards of the landscape.

[Account Deleted]

"...false Christians..."
Wow - I thought God knew who was false and who was real.
All we have to do is check with Ben.
Do you have a list, Ben?
You seem to know all of their attributes.
Are these actual people or just another straw man assembly?
Since there are devout Christians in your family, are any of them the Christians that are the 'we' that were slaughtering injuns?.
I checked, and neither myself nor anyone I know killed the native population off and no one in my family background did.
Just who is the 'we'?

[Gregory]

Russ, you need to stop taking press release science without more than a few grains of salt. One highly speculative paper is nothing to base public policy upon... the authors hope other teams will look for more pairs. Maybe they will.

I thought it was clear that between hunting, having the ability to kill competing predators and agriculture, humans have been affecting ecosystems for far longer than 6,000 years and will as long as humans exist.

Perhaps we can resurrect the Dire Wolf and its prey and relocate them to some large island with some Agenda 21 fans outfitted in pre Stone Age Paleolithic splendor to keep a watch on them.

[Bonnie McGuire]

If you've paid attention to archeology, history, legends and what explorers have written you'll notice that humans have been migrations round and round the earth for thousands of years....for many reasons. Most of us don't have any idea what was here in America before/after the glaciers.

http://www.mcguiresplace.net/Discovery

[fish]

BTW this clown who goes by the handle “John” over at Rebane’s blog thinks I’m the “Jon” who posts there. No, I sign my name. The trouble with the dear “Johns” of the world is that they are clueless to think more than one person (me) might disagree with their diatribes. They are in the minority, a handful of people talking to each other in what some have called “the circle of stupid.”

If I have something to say “John,” I will say it to your face and sign my name. Anyone who knows me knows that. You, on the other hand, are a coward, hiding behind a fake handle. “Chicken little” (AKA John).

Suuuure you will Gloria.....sure you will.

(fish slinks away cackling hysterically.........)

[John]

fish, 1:19 PM. So then, from the response by the "real Jeff Pelline" we are to believe that someone, "jon" has fraudulently registered themselves as "@jeffpelline.com" in order to pose as JP. Just trying to understand why anyone would want to pretend to be him? Chicken Little.

[Walt]

Paul.. "Druid Buddhists" Now THERE is a GOOD ONE!! The Druids most likely NEVER met a Buddhist. (in reality) Nice way to highjack religions, run them through a meat grinder, and form to fit. Yup lest take a little of this one, a little of that, remove this part insert some made up stuff from thin air. That's the Nevada City way.
Funny,, Did a quick look of that.
http://kwelos.tripod.com/celts/druids.htm

Yup,, it's only a Nevada City thing. But whatever floats your boat.

[Walt]

BTW Paul, Being naked within a state park is illegal. Better find some FED land where it is. (got a permit for that open fire? Another state park no-no.)

[fish]

Posted by: John | 17 December 2015 at 01:41 PM

When I first started posting here I used my pseudonym and that pissed jeffy off to no end. And that's fine....jeffys specialty is mindless indignance. I found out later that he himself was like a rash at a number of local blogs (and his own when the numbers fall to 2 visitors a week.....hi Annie!) with sockpuppets.

Apparently "Gloria Zane"....or "Gloria the Knife" as some preferred was his most famous alter ego. He seems to do better with female sock puppets for some reason.....I leave the "why" to each reader.

Initially I though "jon" was jeffy but as bitchy as our "jon" can be at times he/she simply can't match our little jeffy in pomposity, psychological projection....and sad to say..... simply awful writing.

[Bill Tozer]

John, nobody would want to pretend to be The Jolly Purple Foghorn Leghorn. HE has to pretend to be somebody else so HE can get a second opinion and "they" can set us uncouth knuckledraggers on the good path. Our minds are not right and "theirs is. That is why they talk in stereo. Kinda creepy, but consider the source.