Sandbox – 19dec15

[Gun control. Correspondents keep sending me data on gun homicides compiled by the WHO.  For those who truly know something about ‘gun violence’ in America, these data are not new (which says a lot about our progressive counterparts).  It turns out that the US doesn’t even make the top 100 countries in the per capita murders with firearms in the world.  But the more remarkable stats reveal that if the murder rates in our top for-decades-Democrat-controlled cities were averaged to, say, Plano, TX, the ‘gun nut capital of the world’, then our gun homicides rate would become lower than Switzerland’s, where everyone is armed.  The point I want to make here is that it is the liberal and Democrat constituents in the deepest and most gun-controlled enclaves in the country where wanton killing goes on day-in and day-out, all to the silence of the country’s leftwing leadership and their lamestream media.  If ever there was an example of evil hypocrisy, a gift of silence that keeps on killing, … .  Add to that the Left’s lies (e.g. "gun violence" = gun murders)  in their constant effort to subvert the Second Amendment and disarm law abiding citizens, then you have the essence of how our friends across the aisle are fundamentally transforming America.  Watch this short video in its entirety for a snootful on the topic.  gjr]

Comments

[Jon]

Christmas in NYC this year looks more like Christmas in Miami. Two weeks of a bizarre, unprecedented pattern there.

...right wing Denialists appear with heads firmly planted in sand...

[Gregory]

NPR's climate expert thinks it's entirely consistent with an El Nino, "Jon"... and the high of 58 forecast for the 25th is well below the record for December set in 1998, in an earlier El Nino.

It's weather, not climate.

[Gregory]

Again, the NPR expert thinks the high earlier this month, of 69 degrees (iirc) might have been 68 degrees without AGW, no ones really knows ; that's close enough if you take a CO2 sensitivity of from 1 to 1 1/2 degree C for a doubling of CO2, and the rise from 300ppm to 400ppm, still 200ppm short of the first doubling.

"Jon" reminds me of a little poem that an engineer I once worked with (a Brit) would recite when management got unhinged:

When in trouble, when in doubt,
Run in circles, scream and shout.

There is a warming effect of CO2, "Jon", it's just much smaller than natural variations.

[John]

Great video George. The left is either ignorant of the facts regarding guns, or doesn't care. I wonder which it is?

[Bill Tozer]

I echo John's 9:56am. Another inconvenient truth.

Gregory @ 9:27am. You have already explained patiently to Jon about El Nino's present and past influences on the other Sandbox. When cornered, the Leftists switch to racism for a nice change of subject.

Anyone besides me it ironic about Hillary whining to the high heavens about a breach of her secure data, dishonest answers to inquiries, and trying to make this Watergate II (without the Republicans). Oh Bernie,be careful. She will sic the Bimbo Squad on your trailer park trash sorry butt.

[Bill Tozer]

Jon @ 9:09am. There you go again using bizarre again. Can you be more specific?

[Bill Tozer]

Guns.

http://patriotpost.us/posts/39587

The year in review:
As anticipated, Obama renewed his assault on the Second Amendment in March, this time with a regulatory back-door ammo ban. But the ruse drew the immediate attention of 238 House members, who signed a strong letter of protest to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE). The agency backtracked, claiming the regulation as printed “was an error.” For Obama and his leftists, the “inconvenient truth” is that, by every objective measure, more guns equal less crime. Of course, the real motive behind the Left’s “guns and ammo” ban is to undermine the ability of today’s American Patriots to defend Liberty and Rule of Law.

https://patriotpost.us/alexander/39542

[Bill Tozer]

Eeeee. The Top Two are on the same page.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/764980566969316/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=421157758076825&set=p.421157758076825&type=3&theater

[fish]

Posted by: Jon | 19 December 2015 at 09:09 AM

You may now return to the fetal position......

Jeez.....progressives.....afraid of absolutely everything.

[Don Bessee]

Interesting story about madam pansuits campaign transferring money to the DNC based on an email from the campaign to a state party official. What was the price tag for setting the D debates in the least watched slots on the schedules? LOL

[Walt]

I was just going to post that news Don. Hillary is buying the dem....Progressive party.
"yes.. You WILL nominate me.."

[jon smith]

Speaking of guns. The pigs are out rooting in the green shoots and mushrooms now. Took a nice 160 lb eater this morning somewhere near Spenceville. Just in time for Christmas chops!

[Walt]

Nice bag Mr. Smith! That's a good sized porker. My Smoker is envious.

[Bill Tozer]

Not bad Mr. Smith. Find any live old artillery shells while you were down there wandering about?

This does not make me feel confidence in the War on Terror.
https://www.facebook.com/askrocco/videos/10153756162167716/?theater

[Bill Tozer]

Listened to the debate on the radio for 10 minutes, but the background noise got too bothersome. My observations from my corner of the world.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1063892750310363&set=p.1063892750310363&type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153397845298160&set=p.10153397845298160&type=3&theater

[George Rebane]

Anyone notice that no one is concerned about the Dem candidates' chops on foreign policy. Sanders and O'Malley haven't shed any light on their familiarity with what's going on out there, and have no plans to go tour the countryside. The only one about whom the voters know is Hillary because she has a record demonstrating that she knows nothing about foreign policy (red plastic buttons notwithstanding).

[Bill Tozer]

Back to guns. Is Sweden the canary in the coal mine? In Sweden you can be arrested for sleeping with a baseball bat under your bed. At least the woman folk are taking notice, even though they cannot own a firearm for self-defense. Good time to invest in European home security companies if you care to sent your dollars across the pond.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/wake-up-time-in-europe-time-to-get-armed/

Dr Rebane. Bernie tweeted during the last Republican debate on foreign policy "45 minutes into the debate and not one word about income equality!" Thus, no wonder Bernie and the liberals want to neatly brush the topics of foreign policy and national security under the rug, save for making us more like Sweden. They just aren't into those kind of foreign policy issues. Libs like to nest and let others worry about how to protect the nest (if it does not cost too much money or take away from social programs). No balance if that is the gist of your 7:33am..

[Bill Tozer]

When police are hours away or just plain not available, the social contract between state and the people has been broken. Similar to the last link, but the 2nd part of this link explores the social contract. As I have pointed out before, one of the grievances in the Declaration of Independance was the Crown not keeping up with their end by failing to protect the people from "savages".

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6865/sweden-anarchy

[Walt]

Remember when the "G" man wanted doctors to ask uh,, questions?
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/30790522/gun-permit-applicants-denied-over-medical-dispute
"The Honolulu Police Department is requiring a doctor's note that many doctors are not willing to write."

"HPD officers are now handing out a memo to gun permit applicants that states a doctor must sign a note on official letterhead stating the individual "shall own, possess, or control any firearm or ammunition and has been medically documented to be no longer adversely affected by the addiction, abuse, dependence, mental disease, disorder or defect".

"It's some kind of new legal mumbo jumbo about I have to admit that I was treated for mental or drug abuse which I have never done, so that would be a lie. Kaiser says they won't do it so you have to seek an outside doctor. I did so, and they did not accept that doctor's letter," he said. "

[Bill Tozer]

Oh Walt, the HPD is just in time for another multimillion dollar Obama family vacation in the Alhoa State. Gotta make their native son feel comfortable.

[Walt]

Oh Yaaa,, Bill,, the Islanders just love it when he shows up. Gridlock, street closures,
And just think of the turmoil when the Mrs. and the kids go shopping.

[George Rebane]

jons 430pm - Being a pig hunter myself and not having hunted here in norCal, where does one hunt to get their freezer filled with some delicious pork on the hoof?

[George Rebane]

Hillary's latest lie and logic, did everyone catch it? In the debate she claimed that ISIS was using Trump videos to recruit members. Turns out they haven't done that, but her two handlers - campaign manager and 'communications director' - did the Sunday shows declaring that Hillary won't retract any of that bullshit, because ISIS could very well do that in the future, and she knows what they are really thinking.

We are aware that the Lying Left has told us for decades when they put words in our mouths (often in double quotes) that it was what we really meant because 'we know what you are thinking'. Now it appears that this remarkable function has been expanded to include those devious Muslims. So watch out, none escapes the gimlet eye of Hillary the Queen of Hearts.

[Jon]

Walt,
The natives actually do love it when their President returns home for the holidays. Hawaii is a bluer and greener state than CA and he is their pride and joy. I've been there at the same time as the President. Gridlock is an everyday event on the major roads of Oahu and Maui anyway.

[Paul Emery]

Todd

Latest Fox polls Clinton 49 Trump 38-Clinton by 11%

Trump is surging in the Repub polls (39%) and the other major pubbers are over 20 % behind Trumo but Poll pretty even with Hillary. The Pubs are freaking out that he likely will win and is un-electable.

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh16rep.htm
http://www.pollingreport.com/wh16gen.htm

[larry wirth]

Lived there for 4-1/2 years (on Maui, then Molokai) stupider people would be difficult to find. Anywhere. Anyone here would like to argue the point, I'll be happy to respond. Ignorant doesn't begin to address the problem. Until you've lived there, you can't even imagine. L

[Walt]

"jon" is just trolling again. I doubt he has ever been there, let alone afford the airfare.
"Baggage class" has yet to get off the ground.

[Jon]

This great Post piece sums up the situation in America perfectly. Great sum of America, 2015.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/which-party-loves-the-usa/2015/12/20/9e44c83a-a745-11e5-8058-480b572b4aae_story.html

[Jon]

Walt, I spend two weeks a year on the Big Island. Avoid the traffic and gridlock on Oahu and Maui like the plague. Don't know why you even go there with your disdain for their politics and values.

But thanks for asking. :)

[fish]

E. J. Dionne....??

That would be funny if it weren't so embarrassing.....he's such a shameless democratic party suck up he should wear a cheerleader outfit!

[fish]

OMG....it happened again.....at least 20 people mowed down by a crazed gunman......err....what?

Car?

Never mind....no political points to be scored....move along citizen!

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/20/us/las-vegas-strip-accident/index.html

[Bill Tozer]

Jon @ 7:57 tonight.

Yep, that opinion is preaching to your choir. Sure, sometimes that noise in your head bothers me, but not as much as when I was a ranted.

Boy, that did not take long. Good ole Yankee Ingenuity

https://www.sunfrog.com/Really-Dont-Want-to-be-Here-SportsGrey-59051704-Guys.html?43551&shellon&navon&showall&ppOn&txt=b&btn=b&social=1&showPayIcons=1&showSatisfaction=1&showUSAIcon=1&recentView=1&crossSell=1&socialComments=0

Hey, you are stuck with Hillary. Rodham put out a press release telling us all she is dropping her middle name (again). We can refer to the Secretary as Hillary or Hiilary Clinton...only. So, goodbye Rodham the Rodclam. I am with ya.

[Michael R. Kesti]

fish 20Dec15 08:33 PM

Heh. I cannot imagine that the president will stop in Las Vegas on his way back from his vacation. As you said, no political points to be scored.

[Bill Tozer]

What to wear to those Holiday Partiez.

https://www.sunfrog.com/Really-Dont-Want-to-be-Here-SportsGrey-59051704-Guys.html?43551&shellon&navon&showall&ppOn&txt=b&btn=b&social=1&showPayIcons=1&showSatisfaction=1&showUSAIcon=1&recentView=1&crossSell=1&socialComments=0

[fish]

Posted by: Michael R. Kesti | 20 December 2015 at 11:00 PM

It seems Michael that in lieu of an impassioned call to end car related violence the president has elected to play the race card as it pertains to other matters political.

The silence from the "locals" here regarding this mass attack is, as expected, deafening.

[Bill Tozer]

Today favorite quote.

https://www.facebook.com/1013TheBrew/photos/a.195619466488.123649.110527966488/10153764144546489/?type=3&theater

[Bill Tozer]

Speaking of guns and ISIS and political points, Obama is a whimp. We Conversative Americans have our own secret weapon to combat such foolishness: A good woman and a smoke.

http://ij.com/2015/12/496565-dear-isis-america-has-the-ultimate-weapon-with-unspeakable-power-and-her-name-is-linda/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=Partners&utm_term=PRM7&utm_campaign=

[fish]

Remember...the left is always completely above board when it comes to using the apparatus of the state as it relates to its political adversaries!

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_FRANCE_LE_PEN_FINANCES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-12-21-11-09-49

[Bill Tozer]

Finally our current President said something I totally agree with.

http://www.npr.org/2015/12/21/460282127/obama-warns-campus-protesters-against-urge-to-shut-up-opposition

Wish I had a picture of Obama's two white friends dragging him off the stage while he was still talking. Must have been a white privilege thang. Nothing new under the sun. Obama went to the most expensive private high school in Hawaii and as of this writing, Occential College is the most expensive private college in CA. Hmmm. No matter, I won't get into class warfare. I agree with what he said.

[Bill Tozer]

He is brash, outspoken, and branded as a bigot, racist, xenophobe, and Nationalist. But, like him or hate him, fear him or embrace him, that PC hating white guy is saying "I told you so". No, I am not talking about The Donald.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/21/world/europe/hungary-viktor-orban-migrant-crisis.html?_r=0

[Walt]

"jon".. Sure you do. And burning fossil fuels is supposed to cause AGW.
Well HOLD THE PHONE!!! NASA now say OTHERWISE!!!
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/628524/Climate-change-shock-Burning-fossil-fuels-COOLs-planet-says-NASA

So which is it??????? They "jon" the numbers to show it's warming up,, now this radical, over the weekend come to Jesus revelation.

[fish]

Posted by: Walt | 21 December 2015 at 09:34 AM

So which is it??????? They "jon" the numbers to show it's warming up,, now this radical, over the weekend come to Jesus revelation.

Please Walt don't wallow in your scientific ignorance......clearly it's racism that causes global warming.

[Walt]

The TROLL is awake early.
Oh.. who was it that claimed to go to Hawaii on the same time frame as the "jon"?
Jeffy or Stevie?

If the "jon" gets his kids a drone for Christmas, he better register it with the Gov. (only five bucks) The fine is steep if he doesn't.

[Bill Tozer]

Somehow in this weird universe, the words "drone" and "troll" are becoming synonymous.

[Jon]

White Supremisist groups sense a new era and emboldenment under Trump. On the heels of the Putin lovefest. How lovely (and fatal for the GOP). You know...if it walks like a duck...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/12/21/how-donald-trump-is-breathing-life-into-americas-dying-white-supremacist-movement/

[fish]

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 21 December 2015 at 11:09 AM

Somehow in this weird universe, the words "drone" and "troll" are becoming synonymous.

How "dr-oll" William.

[Bill Tozer]

Oh Jon, you are still stuck with Hillary. BTW, per Ms. Clinton's press release, we are to drop the middle name (again) and refer to her as Hillary Clinton or the more affectionate term "Hillar.. Goodbye Rodham the Rodclam. It was fun using her middle name while it lasted. It's a new Hillary with a new reset button. My condolences to you, dear Jon. I feel your pain.

[Michael R. Kesti]

Why are radio controlled quadcoptors called drones but other radio controlled aircraft (model airplanes and helicopters) are not?

[Jon]

Tozer, as you know Hill is not my ideal but she'll beat everyone in the GOP with possible exception of the handsome young Cuban-American Floridian. Did you hear- he is the son of a bartender?

[Bill Tozer]

Then, Jon, we are all stuck with Hillary, each and everyone one of us. At least she will pick out the flower arraignments and the China for dinners at the White House among her many many duties. She can have Bill christen new naval vessels to keep him busy.

Note to Office of White House Property. Let her steal all the towels, candles and drapes, but do a careful inventory of the rest, before and after.

[jon smith]

GR 12/20/15 14:58
Spenseville refuge near Beale has some pigs but they are pressured enough to remain primarily nocturnal. Pigs can wreak havoc in people's gardens and lawns and have been pretty destructive on some properties on and near Perimeter Road. If you know any folks that way you'll likely get permission. Most residents will ask that you use a bow rather than a firearm while shooting near their neighborhood. A MUCH better bet for pigs is in Sonoma and Lake County and in the hills south of Monterey Bay. Unless you have access to private land, it is largely a mix of luck and paying your dues until you cross paths with a pig on public land. Good luck!

[Gregory]

Kesti 12:46
The short answer is that they have not been a problem but gyro stabilized quad copters that take little skill to operate have been problematic.

[Gregory]

That should have read kesti 1206

[Bill Tozer]

Oh John, you did a Hillary no-no. She is to addressed as Hillary, not Hill. You are on her enemies list by now. Boy, you have a knack for stepping in it and showing what an evil sexist you really are. She is not your ideal because she is a woman I bet. Oh well, I still will glance at your posts to see if your war on women continues unabated. If so, we here will defend the fairer sex as well as all the little people downtrodden as a direct result of White Male Elitist Supremist Privilege. Miles to go before I sleep, miles to go.

[Jon]

No problem. She's a tough woman and can handle it.

[fish]

Posted by: Jon | 21 December 2015 at 12:51 PM

Panicky, vindictive and self absorbed was how she was described both as First Lady and later as Secretary of State......exactly the sort of qualities the we want in the leader of a fading, dysfunctional empire. She should have stayed a senator where she could have indulged in her Mikulskiite inclinations with no fear of opprobrium and couldn't by herself screw the country up to any great degree.

The US Senate .......the great shielder of mediocrity!

[George Rebane]

I guess the WHO data has now stopped the discussion of 'gun violence', and the new NASA data put a cork in the 'climate change'. What's left? Oh yes, race.

[Jon]

This NYT piece is particularly for Tozer and fish. Some of us on the left spectrum can laugh at the silliness of youth and certain student actions on college campuses. Perhaps the priorities of young activists are slightly misplaced when we see General Tzo's chicken preparation methods in the headlines.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/22/us/oberlin-takes-culture-war-to-the-dining-hall.html

[fish]

Posted by: Jon | 21 December 2015 at 02:21 PM

I read that and note with satisfaction that some estimate that perhaps 60% of these mediocrity factories will be defunct within 25 years. I hope Oberlin....that font of so much self indulgent lefty stupidity....is leveled to its foundations and the earth upon which it sits sown with salt as a lesson to future generations!

[Bill Tozer]

John, you guys never laugh. You are ridiculed for your silliness. But, be that is written in stone, I still fine O College a crying shame.. O College is on the list of the top 20 schools whose grads make the least 6 years after graduation. Must be one of those "liberal arts" diploma factories. Plus, it is in the top 20 for most expensive private colleges. An outrage to be certain.
Steamed rice is ok instead of fried rice, but don't you dare mess with my grits. Or biscuits, or don't even think about messing with real lumpy gravy over real lumpy mashed spuds.. That be downright overt hostility.
I prefer bar-b-qued chicken to fried chicken, proof that I am a racist. No use denying it (as if I could). Even the Hindu got up in arms for a little meat in their meals. Boy, that crosses a line and got them peaceful Hindus flipping dogma all over the place.. Shameful treatment of the good people. Always remember, Jon, Hinduism is one of the true religions of peace, thus good. Islamics bad.

[Bill Tozer]

Oh Jon, the Hindus got upset about meat in their dishes. It was in an article posted here about a week ago on the exact same subject. You should dig deeper. If you stay with the New York Times, you will behind the times. The Internet has changed the way we communicate.

[Bill Tozer]

Dr. Rebane @ 2:08.
Right on cue there good doc. AWG and gun control will come and go, but ethnic food will always remain at the end of the day. And racism. So, how about them 49ers? :)

[Don Bessee]

The 'jons' of the world must be feeling good today, the global warming set has 3 times the support for Lindsey Graham. Global warming 6%, Graham 2% and Graham just dropped out of the presidential race. Must be another messaging problem like 0 has with his war policy being so misunderstood by the stupid public who just does not get it that he has contained isis. ;-) LOL

[fish]

We can only marvel at the attention to detail that the Obama administration demonstrates on a daily basis!

"Most asylum applicants interviewed by phone..."

http://www.cis.org/rush/most-asylum-applicants-are-interviewed-telephone-feel-safer

[Paul Emery]

Yeah Don. Also Trump is surging which has the GOP establishment in panic mode. He's their worst nightmare.

Politico Reports:

"What happens to the party if he wins?

With Trump as its standard-bearer, the GOP would suddenly be asked to rally around a candidate who has been called by his once and former primary foes “a cancer on conservatism,” “unhinged,” “a drunk driver … helping the enemy.” A prominent conservative national security expert, Max Boot, has flatly labeled him “a fascist.” And the rhetoric is even stronger in private conversations I’ve had recently with Republicans of moderate and conservative stripes.......

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/12/donald-trump-2016-third-party-bid-213449#ixzz3v0LZ4M1C

Fox reports:

Trump hits a high of 39 percent among Republican primary voters, up from 28 percent a month ago. The increase comes mainly from men, white evangelical Christians, and voters without a college degree -- and at the expense of Carson.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/12/19/fox-news-poll-trump-jumps-cruz-climbs-carson-sinks-in-gop-race.html

[Paul Emery]

The bottom line is the Dems are licking their chops rooting for Trump who even John Edwards could beat.

Fox news 49 Hillary 38 Trump

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

[Jon]

Paul, wonder at what point reality sets in for these guys? LOL.

[John]

Paul Emery, it looks like the best the right can offer is very wealthy asshole, with few redeeming qualities save his willingness to say what he sees as the truth about the way the country is currently being run. And the best that your side can offer is a very wealthy traitor who appears to have sold out her country for personal gain, and may be in prison before the election. Not sure about any redeeming qualities. It should be an interesting election season.

[Paul Emery]

That's why I'm voting third party John. No chance for Hillary to be in prison though. Even Agnew didn't go to prison and he was caught taking bags of money for influence while at his desk in the White Hours.

[Jon]

John,
I know its been your dream to "get" one of those damn Clintons, harking back to the American Spectator circa 1992. Didn't happen then, even with 6 years of a multi-million dollar full-court press of accusations. Not going to happen now.
Sorry.

Unless the GOP can somehow prop up their Cupie Doll candidate, a not-so-bright, but very handsome, Mr. Rubio, its not really going to be a very close election.

[Jon]

uh oh, the spelling is KEWPIE doll. Bad bad bad on me.

[John]

Agnew was the VP, HRC is a private citizen pimping for a job. Don't be too cocky about the outcome of the asshole vs criminal contest. The people are fed up, and might just pick an ahole to drain the swamp for us.

[Walt]

A little chewing of the LIBs running for Prez. Poor sanders is crying foul, and filing lawsuits against Hillary,, Hillary is buying the DNC, (who is pretty much BK and behind on bills... Ya.. dead broke) Then the official word from the FBI,"Criminal investigation".
Now... When will the "official charges" be filed? There is a certain General who was indicted for less.(and a Repub...)

You don't jail a Clinton.. Right Lefties? Libs are above the law. Especially a political one, or a bureaucrat of the same stripes.

[Paul Emery]

Clinton being jailed by a Democratic Justice Department? You're dreaming John

[Michael R. Kesti]

Paul Emery 21Dec15 04:28 PM

I recall that Obama and Clinton had some very nasty things to say about each other in 2007 and 2008, too, yet she still became his administration's Secretary of State and without the demise of their party.

[Michael R. Kesti]

Paul Emery 21Dec15 04:32 PM

Polls taken 10.5 months ahead of elections have been known to fail to accurately predict the outcome.

[Paul Emery]

Of course Kesti but they do measure public opinion at the time taken and are taken very seriously as a gauge of public opinion and are an aide in determining political strategies .

[Jon]

"The people are fed up....etc" so say John

Yes, many of us have acknowledged all along that a portion of the aging, white male demographic in America are fed up. Yup. The President talked about that very subject today as matter of fact. But you guys are gradually dying off and a decidedly minority voting block in today's America. Dems da facts, John! I am real sorry we cannot return to your nostalgic vision of America.

Demographics are everything.

[ron]

Jon 1910

Ah yes, 'twas a battle of demography and it has been won. The 2015 impotence can't be cured with their little blue pill. AMF

[Don Bessee]

Yes whatever the 'jon' is, demographics are everything. Madam pantsuits has already lost the soccer moms and the decline to states. You can pin your hopes on an aberration but the cyclical history tells us that Rudi and Newt never made the cut and they were all the rage a year out from the election.
Have fun with your 6% of the electorate that cares about global warming, 0's perceived biggest threat to national security. Just ask all your dream coat of friends that are just some lame rhetoric in support of your tired talking points. I know I can and have filled large meetings of people of color in the real world. ;-)

[John]

Jon, your head in the sand is making look foolish. Every poll on the subject of "is the country headed in the right direction" is in the 70% range with a resounding NO. Since you are clearly one of the 30%, could you articulate one thing that is going right in this fantasy world you are living in?

[ron]

aww fellers, time has passed you by. Your voices, opinions and ridiculous positions have no place in 2015. Even in sleepy ole NC you are dinosaurs. Perhaps you should all fall back to Ruby Ridge with Scott Oblubbermutter for a final stand. I say good riddance.

[John]

Is that you Michael? Are you off your meds again?

[Bill Tozer]

Jon @ 7:10pm.
"I am real sorry we cannot return to your nostalgic version of America."

Well, Jon, if you are real sorry, I wil forgive you again. Not for your mocking words and jabs, but simply because that is the kind of conservative I am.

Yes, Jon, I grow nostalgic at times. Having the kids walk to school without worrying about them, save crossing the street when no cars approaching.. Those were less stressful times. Ah, I wax nostalgic in my golden years, then I die. Warms the cockles of me weary heart.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/765180890282617/?type=3&theater

The Repubican candidates are all toast, each and every one of them. No use even getting off my rocker. I know this to be true because I, too, follow the Presidential race.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/766489636818409/?type=3&theater

[ron]

Hey bessee 1952, 32 of 50 states now have MMJ, four state have outright legalization others have decriminalization and more will follow. The feds(Repub house and all, snicker snicker) recently lifted their ban on MMJ, paving the way for the rest of the country. I dare say, "mission accomplished". Your position is a complete and total failure, of course you only contributed in your own special little way. ;)

[ron]

John 2028,

That was quite a zinger, perhaps we should all celebrate with a shot of Metamucil and a nap. Only then can we begin to make 'merica great again.

[Paul Emery]

Don and others

The thing to remember about Trump and Cruz is that they are hated by the Republican establishment and particularly by the big money folks-National Chamber of Commerce, Wall street, international corps etc etc. they know they can work with Hillary because they got along so well with Billy boy and they both can both be bought. I'm not sure you can buy Trump and that makes him a threat. The establishment in both parties hate populism because it involves passionate followers (Tea Party etc)

Newt never made the cut because he's actually a conservative intellectual with real principals and a practical way of looking at solutions (immigration for example which sunk him in 12) and a brilliant man.

If Cruz gets the nomination he's going to have to answer every time that if local police stop someone who is an undocumented immigrant they will be responsible for sending him to immigration cops and shipped out of the country even if they may have children here, a good job and have lived a peaceful life for 20 years. The majority of Americans won't buy that population. Rubio is the Pubber the Dems fear the most for sure that has a chance at the nomination. Bush is headed for Perryland and the rest don't have a chance. The Repubs have a sure winner with Kasich and Rubio (VP) because they would surely carry Ohio and Florida but Kasich is a Reagan Conservative and that won't qualify as being Conservatively Correct these days. That ticket would scare the crap out of the Dems but it will never happen. What is happening is qualified Conservatives such as Graham, Bush, Kasich and Perry are passed over because they are not radical enough for the hungry crowds who need to be fed raw meat to satisfy their hunger. The problem is that while they may be a slim majority of the Pubbers they are a distinct minority of the voting electorate as a whole and will not win head to head with Hillary once the campaign is just down to two parties.

So Trumpers have a good time and if you win remember he is a dream come true for the Dems.

[Bill Tozer]

Well, since we are all resigned to be stuck with Hillary (save bonking her head again) until 2024, lets see what a seasoned revered Democrat pollster has to say. Amazing stats he quotes, FYI. It's all about demographics?

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/260820/pat-caddell-hillary-wont-be-president-frontpagemagcom

To bolster Pat's theory, suffer me while I do the anecdotal thang.

http://libertyfirstnews.com/boston-cab-driver-i-havent-seen-homelessness-this-bad-in-42-years-on-the-job/#

[Russ Steele]

CalWatchdog: CA breaks gun sales records

Californians have drawn national attention by buying more guns in the wake of the terror attacks in San Bernardino.

“Californians have already bought a record number of firearms in 2015, including major spikes in sales on Black Friday and the days after the San Bernardino attacks,” reported the San Jose Mercury News, citing new federal and state data on the sales. “Firearms purchases in California triggered 1.51 million federal background checks in the first 11 months of the year, breaking the previous annual record of 1.47 million set last year,” the paper added.

The reaction to the San Bernardino shootings was swift, with “as many as 6,000 guns being sold a day in the days after two jihadists massacred 14 people,” according to Fox News. “Figures provided by the California Department of Justice to FoxNews.com show that in the four days after the massacre, there were 20,664 sales, compared to only 12,649 from Nov. 29 to Dec. 2.”

http://calwatchdog.com/2015/12/18/ca-breaks-gun-sales-records/

[Jon]

"The Repubican candidates are all toast, each and every one of them." Bill Tozer

Hey Tozer, pretty much agree with that sentiment. Coulda been different had the calm, cool, collected voices and brains taken charge of the GOP. But ironically, after making fun of progressives as being too in touch with feelings- the GOP base has shown itself to utterly emotion driven. To its detriment.

[Don Bessee]

Note to 'ron, jon, brad, martin or lefty jeffy' what ever you are, you may have noticed we have won every election in CA in the last few years. Do not be surprised to see CO make a major shift next year. Then there was that little Ohio thing and the DC bid was squelched by the feds too. Keep shoveling that bovine scatology. The medical research is developing real medicine and not a screen for stoners to hide behind patients anymore. Funny the 'ron' like the 'jon' goes lower case on the sock puppet personas. Thanks for using my little fun close. Tells us all it bothers you. ROFLOL ;-)

[Jon]

Paul Emery totally nailed it at 9:01 with the ticket the GOP should have gotten their hands around months ago- John Kasich and Marco Rubio. Young, Handsome Marco wouldn't do any damage, and wouldn't have become such a phony to move into contention for the Big Job. The GOP could have put up a ticket with an actual thoughtful adult in charge. Its now become the party of screaming undisciplined, disliked brats like Trump and Cruz.

[Jon]

Don, who the heck is Martin? LOL. And the Pubbers have won every election in the last few years?...oh boy, please do tell us more Don.
Even the GOP admits the GOP is dead in CA! Your words are the very definition of DELUSIONAL! But its OK, really..its OK.

[Paul Emery]

Jon

I think Don is referring to local elections around Pot cultivation. He fails to note that the recent new cultivation laws signed by the governor which legallizes cultivation for medical pot has the endorsement of Calif law enforcement since they played a major role in the negotiations that led to the new legislation. It's a whole new ball game folks.

"“This new structure will make sure patients have access to medical marijuana, while ensuring a robust tracking system,” Brown wrote in his signing message. “This sends a clear and certain signal to our federal counterparts that California is implementing robust controls not only on paper, but in practice. He noted that some of the standards, including the licensing system, don't take effect until Jan. 1, 2018. But, he said, “state agencies will begin working immediately with experts and stakeholders on crafting clear guidelines, so local government, law enforcement, businesses, patients and health providers can prepare and adapt to the new regulated system.”

An estimated 1,250 medical marijuana dispensaries are operating in the state, with sales of about $1.3 billion, according to industry groups.”

http://www.latimes.com/local/political/la-me-pc-gov-brown-on-medical-marijuana-regulations-20151009-story.html

[Don Bessee]

It seems some of the sock puppets cant keep the conversation straight. Pot advocates have lost every election in CA for quite awhile the 'jon' 'ron' or what ever. So you know all the others and only deflect the dreadlocked martin? Very telling the 'jon' lefty jeffy or other delusional identity, how did that head shop fiasco work out? Shouldn't that be 'emotionally driven'? Tag that bong again big boy! ;-)

[Jon]

Don, I really have no idea what the hell you're rambling about tonight. Sorry, I don't know ron, jon or martin, and am not really interested in your anti-pot obsession. Best of luck though.

[Don Bessee]

PE you may have noticed that we won the big issues in AB266. Local control is paramount and no more store front pot docs, your recommending physician as defined by your insurance is the source of recommendations now. Reports form the 58 Counties say we are rolling big. In addition there is a business and professional rule for Docs that is in effect now. According to industry groups they would have won in 2012 and measure S should have gone down 70 to 30 as said by the pollster and VP of the americans for safe access last year. Keep selling, no one is buying. Normal people are voting against the wild west of weed in droves. You should have seen our 3 big recent events in Marin with Patrick Kennedy and Kevin Sabet, no love for legalizers. The times they are achanging. ;-)

[Bill Tozer]

Jon @9:38. that is indeed cool if you consider Trump a Republican. I don't. Trump is the Enough is Enough Canidate who happens to be running on the Republican side.

After reading Paul and others' glee over the Republican Party's dilemma about the Trump Problem, I also rejoice for different reasons. Tear down the house. All the articles about the wailing and gnashing of teeth by the "real Republican Party establishment" is music to my ears. And the media hyperventilating over what Trump is doing TO the party (complete with convential wisdom and feigned concern over their buddies the Republicans) is fantastic news. Take them down Donald, grind them into the dust I say.

Fish posted a great placard that said something like "Trump is the murder weapon and the target is the Republican Party" House cleaning time for those of us who are tired of being taken to the cleaners. A kind of in-party "consent of the governed" rebellion. Then the murder weapon will be used on Hillary with help from mainstream Democrats, if any are still out there.
Never underestimate the enemy, Jon. A pissed off electorate can move mountains and ideology is no match for deep seated widespread anger which is seething from sea to shining sea.
Wonder why you don't hear much from Rosie McDonald anymore. It's not about ideology, it's about pushback.

[Don Bessee]

Its cute that when Todd's crew shut up the dark lord of liberal lament lands yacking we see a surge of the same talking points with new sock puppets on RR. ;-)