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23 February 2016

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Paul Emery

Denying a hearing by the Repubs for an Obama nominee to the SCOTUS in an incredible error and may cost them the election. Already successfully branded as obstructionist for their ill advised government shutdown (thank you Cruz) all Obama has to do is nominate a totally qualified Black, Hispanic or Woman and you have an Alamo event to rally the undecideds and increase the voter turnout. No problem with dealing with past history on this matter, nobody cares. Combine that with the apparent inevitable assenction of Trump as candidate (unless there is a very ugly extraction) and Obama's rising in polls (he's +2 in the Fox Poll) and you have a very tough scenario for the ol' Pubsters come fall.

http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_job.htm

George Rebane

PaulE 1222pm - You know Paul, you really should start numbering your years-long and ongoing dire predictions for the Republican party which today has ascended to historical majorities (cited here) from the federal to local levels. I believe your list may be up in the low thousands by now. Simple application of 'Shit Happens' probability theory should make at least one of them come true. Rejoice.

 Gregory

His Accidency, John Tyler, elected to the Vice Presidency as a Whig, had his Whig Senate sit on two open SCOTUS seats, one for nearly two and a half years waiting for him to term out. It was Constitutional then and it's Constitutional now. Tyler had been thrown out of the party. He was also the first President to have a veto overturned (the Speaker of the House was also a Whig).

Has Harry Reid correctly noted when he was obstructing Bush II lower court nominations, there is no requirement for the Senate to act on any Presidential nomination in any time frame. McConnell is doing exactly what Reid would have been doing had a SCOTUS seat opened during the last two years of GW Bush.

Bill Tozer

Dr. Rebane @ 12:28 in the afternoon.
You beat me to it! I would like to add "I wish I had a dollar for everytime I heard from anyone who does not have the Right's best interest at heart, 'Holy Cow, this will cost you the election'." Just heard that about water boarding last week, and over months of not condemning Trump or supporting Trump will cost us the election. And, of course, not kissing any particular ethnic groups' sweet round behind might cost us the election.
In other words, it's their way of the highway of woe. I prefer the company on latter road. Thanks for the free advice, Paul. It's worth about the same as its price. Keep those cards and letters coming.

Paul Emery

Gregory

Without examining your assumptions I can respond that the public has a short memory.

George

You might recall I was right on the money in predicting a solid win for Obama in '12. Thank the Tea Party and the rise of a populist movement for the Trump event. The Dems have Bernie but it's a bit late for him to take on the establishment. After the kiss and makeup if Trump or Cruz get the nomination there will be an unholy rise of the progressives as an alternative. If Rubio ascends. not so much but he's an inexperienced twerp first time Senator. Lets see, the Dems tried that and look what we got.

 Gregory

"all Obama has to do is nominate a totally qualified Black, Hispanic or Woman and you have an Alamo event to rally the undecideds and increase the voter turnout"-Paul Emery

DEM turnout in the NV caucuses was down by 1/3... the DEMS look like they'll need something to MMMMotivate them (cue James Earl Jones in his Darth Vader accent) this year. Maybe Obama can find a transgender woman fresh from Harvard Law with $400k in student loans to really hook the younglings?

When have nominations to the Supreme Court been about qualifications, Paul? Virtually ever nominee I'm aware of was "qualified"... the Senate, an elected body with some stability, is required because SCOTUS decisions are the most politically tinged in the nation. Always has been, always will be. They have the final say on every law passed by the political process and have the responsibility to ensure nominees are acceptable to the Senate as a whole. When Reid was in control, his majority ruled, but the People of the USA chose a Republican Senate, and McConnell is doing exactly what Reid would be doing.

The brouhaha is all about Democrats getting a left-liberal court to start pulling out the SCOTUS thorns in their side, starting with Citizens United. When do they want it? They want it NOW.

 Gregory

Bork was "totally qualified". So was Roberts, and Obama voted against him after finding him qualified... but not to his political liking. Alito even got an attempted filibuster to try to toss after his qualifications were noted, and Obama was a part of that, too.

Let's try to keep the hypocrisy to a minimum, Paul. Borking of an exceedingly "qualified" candidate is a Democratic Party political invention. It's much more genteel to just not have the hearing rather than a drumhead trial for the cameras.

Paul Emery

So Gregory in your mind the Repubs should use Alfred E, Neuman's "What me worry" as their response. Or should it be the slacker kredo "whatever".

 Gregory

Paul, it isn't that the public has a short memory, it's that the news is often so bloody slanted.

The shoe fits you and you are wearing it.

Paul emery

I have no republican or Democrat a preference in this election I am voting Libertarian for Gary Johnson. These are only my observations about what I think will likely happen.

 Gregory

Paul, I applaud your choice to vote LIB, but you remain at the ready to refute any Republican daring to say "water is wet".

A Republican Senate that wouldn't stand firm against a President wishing to replace a Conservative Justice with the likes of a Kagan or a Sotomayor would not be doing the job they were elected by their constituents to do. McConnell is doing his job.

I'd suggest an end to the horrible state of SCOTUS political animosity thusly... have Obama nominate Scalia's own suggestion as to the jurist who would best carry on his work, and apologize for the Democratic Party for Borking Bork in the first place, as a peace offering to the GOP, and a pledge on behalf of his Party and the American People never to daemonize any nominee ever again.

Finish laughing at the impossibility of that happening and remember, in the coming months, that the precedent for not acting on Presidential nominations is settled, with plenty of past and present hypocrisy on both sides of the aisle.

Paul emery

My observation has to do with the political wisdom of taking the decision in that way. They could at least pretend to consider anybody that Obama announces

 Gregory

So, lying is preferable to doing their job out in the open? I prefer the more honest approach, and the news media shouldn't be dancing to the DP fiddler, let alone moaning in ecstasy at the appropriate times.

I hear today the Judiciary committee is unanimous, they will not be hearing any SCOTUS nominee, though I suspect were Obama to nominate Scalia's choice they will oblige him.

George Rebane

PaulE 111pm - Wasn't that "...an inexperienced twerp first time Senator" who was twice elected to and is currently living at 1600 Pennsylvania? Actually, compared to Rubio, Obama emerged from the more properly labeled 'inexperienced twerp squared' category of politicians. Or is having the CV vitae of a twerp only allowed for successful Democrat candidates?

Paul Emery

George

I concluded with " Lets see, the Dems tried that and look what we got. " as an example as to what happens when someone ill equipped to handle the scope of the job gets elected. there were several qualified Repubs that were dumped in this process including Lindsey Graham and soon to be discarded John Kasich as well as recently recycled Jeb Bush. They are left with an egomaniac and two twerps that don't have the experience and sweep for such a job.

George Rebane

PaulE 240pm - No. Upon rereading your 111pm you were talking about the electability of twerps, and that was all that I responded to in my 222pm.

Todd Juvinall

Seems the R's with the help of the Tea Party got massive victories in 2010, 2012, 2014 so Paul Emery knows not what he is yapping about.

Jon

Which were the massive R victories in 2012? Please elaborate and remind us again. thanks.

Paul Emery

Yes Todd I agree but do you really think this country will elect Trump? Why do you think all the Republican insiders are freaking out about what it will mean to the Party if he's nominated. It's a hoot that you like Trump Todd. Just last week he called Bush ll an outright liar about WMD's and Iraq.

From the National Review:

"There are many potential outcomes to a Donald Trump GOP nomination. And every one of them is a disaster for conservatives.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430468/donald-trump-what-if-he-wins

Trump says:
"He not only called the decision to go to war "a big, fat mistake" (and, post-debate, proclaimed it "a disaster") but also said: "They lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none, and they knew there were none."

http://townhall.com/columnists/larryelder/2016/02/18/trump-bush-administration-knowingly-lied-about-iraq-war-intel-n2120851/page/full

drivebyposter

'Which were the massive R victories in 2012? Please elaborate and remind us again. thanks."

Perhaps governorships and state legislatures? It rather looks that way on the few charts I've looked at, although 'massive' is an overstatement I guess.

drivebyposter

"From the National Review:"
P.Emery.

'nuf said. The Nation Review is firmly in the anti-Trump, pro Wall Street BushObama crowd. I expect they'd torpedo Trump if the Democratic opposition was the Prince of Darkness himself (and I don't mean Richard Perle).

I like this political season. Lots of cross over voting in the general, lots of dirt, Hillary will get the nomination even she fell over dead during an upcoming debate. People voting either against Trump, against Hillary, or for Trump.

I just watched Trump for the first time on youtube, spent about an hour watching speeches. You know, he's really good. It's nice to see someone work with minimal notes and work a crowd like that. The only President in my lifetime who could speak on the fly like that was Nixon, who also managed to say something substantial at the same time. I'm afraid the public wants more red meat than that anymore.

Jon

driveby 4:34,
The discussion on these boards is now framed and centered on the Federal Executive and Legislative Branch elections. Of course through gerrymandering in red states, the R trend has been ongoing for some time (predating the Tea Bag Brigade), and mostly attributed to the funny maps and voting rules in each state. Its an established fact that the Tea Party and R's saw a resounding defeat on the Federal level in 2012, losing the Senate and many seats in the House, not to mention the big win that Obama enjoyed, even after he angered the red base with his Obamacare success.

George Rebane

Jon 448pm - I think you continue the broadbased liberal denial of facts with your "Federal level in 2012, losing the Senate and many seats in the House"
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774721.html

And you totally ignore the Repub gains at the state and local levels. Yes, the Dems gained Senate seats in 2012 which they promptly more than lost in 2014. And in 2012 they gained House seats rather than "losing many House seats". You live in a very comfortable bubble the departing from which will be very uncomfortable.

Don Bessee

That old fart the 'jon' is still stuck in 2012. Its just too scary for him to admit that we have the most Federal seats in a century and own the most state houses and legislatures. More bad news for the 'jon's of the world; R's hold the majority of local offices in CA now and the pot people have not won an election in CA in more than 2 years. Change she is a comin'. (cue star wars ominous music). ;-)

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery | 23 February 2016 at 04:01 PM

You should be a Trump supporter as I have read your disregard for the two major parties all these years. Actually, you usually stomp on the R's and kiss the cheeks of the D's. Trump seems to be attracting D's and R's for his anti establishment positions and his anti PC candor.

"jon" must be high again and we all know the ganga makes that possible. In the elections the country tossed out the D's from all levels og government down to dog catcher. I call that a massive victory since the lower levels of government are the incubators of those rising up. We R's saved the country by aborting those D's at local and state levels. We saved the place from further tyranny.

Paul Emery

Na Todd

Trump is you're guy and you'll support him with your time and money when he gets the nomination. Imagine what you'd say if Hillary or Sanders called Bush an outright liar. This is funny beyond belief. Trump and I actually agree on that one but he's your guy so you must also believe Bush is a liar.

Of course your earlier choice was the incredible shrinking man Scott Walker. You sure know how to pick um'.

Todd Juvinall

Where did you see me supporting Trump? My guy? No, I have not decided. You on the other hand have stated your support for that loser and pot head from New Mexico. You need a better picker.

Paul Emery

Todd, first of all Trump is going to win so deal with it. Not much competition from the twin twerps. Once Trump wins you will support him because you are a Genetic Republican and you can't help it. Therefore you are a Trump supporter.

Paul Emery

George

Can you explain to me what is uniquely valuable at Gitmo that can't be replicated in our homeland?

Jon

Todd will Trumpet Trump, and predict Trump by 6 over Clinton....until he loses by 5....

LOL.

Jon

George R, how do you figure I ignore the R gains in statehouses over the last decade when I specifically spoke about it in my 4:48 post?..
My only point is that national elections go up and down, up and down, R and D in the Senate a constant change, the House mostly R, the Presidency mostly D... and thus it will be again in 2016.

Meanwhile, Donny apparently dreams of a GOP comeback in CA...he he...D.E.L.U.S.I.O.N.A.L. Go SOJ!

Bill Tozer

Paul is right about a couple of things. 1) No one really cares about our country's long history of Supreme Court nominees being blocked or not even going through the motions this close to an election. I am glad I did not post yesterday those speeches by Joe Biden against the Prez appointing a justice close to an election in 1992. No one cares in this current (permanent?) political enviroment. It's the battle at hand that counts, not the previous battles over the same topic. Heck, the Dems called for no appointments 18 months out (to 2 years) one several occasions, but who really cares about that? The real matter is the here and now. The rest is just space filler.

2) Paul is right again. His analyst of who will be the two parties' nominees for what reasons and how that will effect who wins and who loses the general can be debated. No problem. But, I agree that people will vote the party line in the end, unless they cross over like Reagen Democrats. Thus, when Paul says Todd (or no one in particular) will vote the Genetic Republican, he is correct. That in and of itself makes a lot of us Trump supporters. Not exactly what I would call a profound observation, but who cares anyway.

Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."-------Vince Lombardi.

Side note: With my well earn lack of trust for Washington DC, if not total disgust with the Republican Party status quo, I even don't trust the so-called conservatives lately. I am a conservative through and through, but don't lump me in with conservative establishment. They been giving us conservatives a bad name lately as well. . Guess we all apply different meanings to the same word. Whether the sky will far on my head because of Trump and send my ilk to the back of the bus, it's worth the shot. I will take my chances, thank you. As posted before by moi, Trump is the right tool for the right job at the right time. Nothing more, nothing less. Destroy the Rhinos, destroy the Establishment, destroy the Left, and destroy a handful of things that have escaped me.
I do not care if Mexico pays for the wall. Just don't give a hoot as long as there is a wall. I don't care about Gitmo. I really don't as long as we are secure and raghead friggin terrorists rot in jails...Egyptian jails preferably. As long as they are secured somewhere so we can be secure.
I don't care if Muslims get offended. Hyperventilate all you want as long we have a better vetting process. I don't care if any President cannot stop employers from relocating overseas as long as we put our economy up a few notches on the ladder. Oh yeah, destroy Common Core. I don't care if you spy this with apprehension, disdain, or ridicule. Not even just a passing thought. I just ain't going to take it no more and have put the boxing gloves on.
Just need the right tool for the right job now. Trump all the way, then we can make nice with y'all.

Don Bessee

Not a dream the 'jon' we do have a majority of the locals across the state now. Insert your gerrymandering rant about the dems here. Scalia already voted on the teachers union issue. I think we all know how that turned out. It wont take long for the unions to loose their campaign chests without enough members. See the other states that freed workers from indentured servitude to unions who did not represent their political voice. Even you can see the results of that chain of events. ;-)

Jon

Tozer, the good news is that only about 25% of Americans think like you...:)

Jon

The other bit of good news is that the lying lawyer Ted Cruz probably saw his national political ambitions end this week...tonight was the final nail in Nevada. Rubio will live to run another day, but his phoniness and lack of intellect is way too transparent.

Jon

Donny, must give you credit for your very optimistic but very bizarre theory of how the GOP will come back in CA and nationally.
A hearty LOL to ya, big guy~

Bill Tozer

Jon, that is a start. Not bad for Febuary. The bigger they are, the harder they fall...and fall the furthest. Never said it would be pretty. Nevada precincts reported to be a mess with hordes of angry voters. Probably set another Republican Primary turnout record...again. That news is getting so redundant.
Here is the Trump plan. Just substitute the word Brazil with Donald J Trump and it's all you need to know.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/zika/12169491/Brazil-plans-to-zap-mosquitoes-with-radiation-to-halt-spread-of-Zika-virus.html

Don Bessee

Come back in the US? We are back in most of the US, roll a fattie it will help that middle age memory disorder from high THC! LOL ;-)

Walt

Damn! "jon" is still signed up for that human testing of Monsanto GMOMJ. Word has it that stuff has become self aware!
Those wild predictions on Trump are getting wilder, and his excuses why LIBS have been losing are starting to bubble.
Trump VS a krazy Commie, or a felon.( judged, and found guilty in the court of public opinion) Yup,,, decisions decisions...

As for Ca.,,,"jon",, when there are less makers than takers, where will the money come from to fuel that handout gravy train? Sooner than later, the "big boys" will give the finger to the state and head elsewhere where the tax burden will be a lot less. Mexico is the favored digs. Google and Facebook don't need Ca. Zuckerburg has already out foxed the state and fEDS, giving most of his billions to his charity.(TAX deductible) Brown can't go back for seconds.

Bill Tozer

Rubio is the Rhino's Great Latino Hope. He is the guy that can take down Trump with gobs of money and endorsement. The right kind of endorsements from popular Estibalishment politicians. Ok, let me know if he ever wins a state. Yawn.

Oh, that Trump is something else. Glen Beck showed up outside a precinct to rally support for Cruz. The Donald must have caught wind of that because he showed up there as well. Beck never had a chance.
Did somebody say Lindsey Grahm??? Isn't he the dude that garnered less than 1% of the vote??? Another popular establishment politician eats the dust.. Only problem with Sen. Gramhcracker is he stayed in the race way to long. Like more than a week was too long with his numbers. Can't blame Trump for the Senator's public humiliation. Opps, sure you can!! Blame The Donald. I am sure he will take all he blame for Jeb and Carly and Rick (two Ricks) and Mike and that popular Senator from The Great State of South Carolina. Sure I missed somebody. Next.

Don Bessee

Does it seem like Trump is becoming the American Silvio Berlusconi?

Bill Tozer

Don. Could be. In the previous 3 state primaries, about half said they were looking for an outside canadiate. In Nevada p, it was 6 in 10. Ah, the shift. Big Mo.

Jon was correct I must say. You must be crazy to think Trump will ever carry CA. No way, Jose. But Trump will carry New York in the general. And FLA, and.....

Walt

As they say Bill,, a broke clock is right twice a day. So Trump won't carry Ca. Big deal..
Ca. is irrelevant. The game is over by the time "we" vote.

Beck is starting to come off the rails. I like the guy, don't get me wrong. He dose some great things, and the Mrs. and I have been part of a few of them. Beck has made some dead on predictions.(unlike "jon" who has been batting a thousand at wrong)

Don Bessee

My friends (not the 'jons') I am not advocating for Trump,I am observing and trying to figure out what team we can put on a ticket that will crush madam liar liar pants on fire. Oh, and the socialist bernmiester. I do see the fun factor that is helping Turmp. Does it play in the general?

Bill Tozer

Agreed, Mr. Walt. Hey, speaking of Beck and some of the good things he has done, the former target of Glen's alarm (Van Jones and Co), had a few things to say. Van Jones said Bern was being arrested protesting and demonstrating for civil rights while Hillary was still a Goldwater Girl, lol.
Not one to share the limelight, my gal is making her move to solidify her support among black voters. Great strategy I must say.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/798864440247595/?type=3&theater

Glad O is backing her as well. They finally got their messages synchronized. .

https://www.facebook.com/TheRealCommonSenseConservative/photos/a.389135484433165.109027.358277240852323/1219539178059454/?type=3&theater

Jon

Kudos to Trump for winning the GOP primary by skillfully playing to the fears and frustrations of the old, angry, mostly uneducated white men of our country... Now best of luck with the other 80% of the electorate! :)

Don Bessee

Whoever the 'jon' is should just go back to peeps where his brand of bovine scatology will be treated as relevant. ;-)

fish

Kudos to Trump for winning the GOP primary by skillfully playing to the fears and frustrations of the old, angry, mostly uneducated white men of our country....Now best of luck with the other 80% of the electorate! :)

"“Trump won them all. According to preliminary entrance poll data reported by CNN, he won every age group and every education group and both genders — and even every racial and ethnic group. About 1 in 10 Nevada Republicans were Hispanic. More than 4 in 10 of them backed Donald Trump (according to entrance polls with a notably large margin of error)"

I guess this is where we are supposed to "MARK THE TAPE" again......

drivebyposter

"Can you explain to me what is uniquely valuable at Gitmo that can't be replicated in our homeland?"

P. Emery


A legal environment.

fish

A preview of how things will be handled under "single payer health care".........


AWARD FOR SCREWING UP A MAJOR VA HOSPITAL? PLUSH JOB, FREE HOUSE IN THE PHILIPPINES: “Rima Nelson disappeared from public view after the St. Louis Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) hospital she managed potentially exposed 1,800 patients to HIV, was closed twice for serious medical safety issues and ranked dead last in patient satisfaction,” reports the Daily Caller News Foundation Investigative Group’s Luke Rosiak.

Nelson wasn’t fired, she was transferred to the Philippines capital of Manila to run VA’s only foreign facility. It’s a small staff that provides outpatient care to the few remaining U.S. and Filipino WWII veterans. She kept her $160,000 a year salary and lives in a government-provided condo in a country in which the average person makes about $2,500 annually.

Nelson is just one of nearly 100 highly paid VA executives the department has transferred three or more times in eight years, often leaving management dysfunction and chaos behind. The reality of the federal government’s workforce is that it’s easier and less time-consuming to transfer poor performers than to fire them. And VA isn’t the only federal department that does it; the problem is government-wide.


http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/24/failed-st-louis-va-chief-got-plush-job-free-house-in-philippines/#ixzz415l5cXji

 Gregory

"Meanwhile, Donny apparently dreams of a GOP comeback in CA...he he...D.E.L.U.S.I.O.N.A.L. Go SOJ!"-Jon/Steven Frisch


A GOP comeback is squarely in the realm of possibilities... in the future, after a Friedrichs v. California Teachers Ass'n finding for Friedrichs, and a collapse of the catastrophic AGW meme. Both will eventually happen. Union subsidies and fear of the weather are two legs supporting the current one party state in California.

Bill Tozer

Hope burns eternal. It's what keeps us beep-bopping along.

http://patriotpost.us/posts/40859

fish

So....? Will the democrat FU vote stay home in November or will they swing to "The Trumpening" as well.


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/bernie-sanders-south-carolina-schedule-219708


Oh Bernie....we hardly knew ye!

Bill Tozer

Gitmo, Gitmo. Whatz the big deal. The way I see it, if we take the inmates, chop them up into little pieces, toss the shark chum in the bay, then Gitmo would no longer be an issue, now would it??

http://patriotpost.us/articles/40880

Bill Tozer

Oh, the dilemma. Would you rather be stabbed in the belly 10 times or shot in the kneecaps? I feel the progressive's pain. Oh, what to do, what to do?

http://patriotpost.us/opinion/40864

Walt

Nice try "jonboy". Now he tries to attack one's schooling. "the uneducated" he says.
Now who does the LIBS pander to "jon"? That's RIGHT.. Those who don't want to work, and demand handouts. "Take from thee and give to me!" Free cell phones! Free healthcare! Free college! Get out of jail free is next on the list.

Todd Juvinall

Walt I thought the left was made up of the union types and the other non college educated working stiffs? The little guys. Those darn R's are the college boys and girls. Anyway, "jon" is simply a good example of the dumbing down of the American left so they can keep those lemmings medicated and compliant. The darn R's are too indie and tough.

Paul Emery

Driveby

Please explain to me what "legal environment" is unique to Gitmo that can't be replicated on our homeland?

Jon

Oh Greg, you're too cute. Steve Frisch is one of my heroes, but sadly he and I live probably 50 miles apart... Good try, again.

fish

Posted by: Jon | 24 February 2016 at 09:46 AM


Steve Frisch is one of my heroes....


....that's the saddest thing I'm going to hear all day!

George Boardman

Hey Walt, The Donald loves you:

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-i-love-the-poorly-educated-144008662.html

fish

Posted by: George Boardman | 24 February 2016 at 09:56 AM

It's certainly a more noble sentiment than the progressives who have contempt for them unless they can be lumped into one of their pet voting blocks.

Bill Tozer

Walt @ 8:18 in the am.
Oh, Jon keeps throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks. Your education standards (vastly inferior in the control freaks' eyes) means you are stupid. But, it's all in fun. We dummies have learned not to take ourselves too seriously. Like, "Yesterday I cudnot speel contractor, today I r one." It's all because you have gone done your research, armed yourself with facts, and are ready to do battle with the Mean Green Global Frying Machine, you flatearther, you. Until you come to the light, you are a ignorant dummie. :)
Here is the progressive's world view. Remember, they be the smart ones.
The Problem
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/799265863540786/?type=3&theater

The Solution
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/799010890232950/?type=3&theater

Todd Juvinall

I want to see "jon" take all his money and possessions over to the Rood Center and drop them off for distribution to the folks who "need" them. I mean hey jon, you are just a blowhard who is unable to do what you want others to do. Take that gold jewelry, money markets and pensions from your government job and redistribute. Of course you won't. You are just a BSer of ill repute. The classic taker.

Walt

Flatlander!!??? Them is fight'n words!!! Now how in hell can I make shit run downhill down there?
Now I see Board Georgeman is trying to stoop to "jon" level. Yet won't comment on just who the LIBS are pandering to, and have been for years. LIBS... Even today "plantation" owners. ( And Boardman and "jon" take cheap shots at Trump supporters? LOL!!)
" Unemployment, good for America" "The more on welfare, the better..good for America"
Those are LIB statements. I don't recall hearing Trump say stuff like that, or from those that will vote for him.

Walt

Paul.. It's not that hard to understand. If GITMO prisoners set foot on U.S. soil, they are entitled to all the goodies of the Constitution. (which they don't deserve)
That's the "legal environment".
They get sent "here", they will walk, get sent "home" and go right back to the battlefield, like most have done already.
They will NEVER see the inside of a courtroom. That has been tried already, with an epic fail.

Walt

"You are just a BSer of ill repute. The classic taker."
Yup,, that's why he will vote for Sanders.( But I think he lost his right to vote.)

Bill Tozer

Yo, my brother from a Swedish mother Walt. Er....um...that's flatearther, not lander. My mistake.
The first time I watched Beck, he was talking about some Saul David Alinski plan that Obama was trying to implement. I thought this guy is too far out there. Saul who? Taking the top down, overrun (flood) the economy with folks on the dole, the system collapses, Revolution, rebuilt the whole ball of wax from the bottom (full of hungry, broke, cold shivering masses upon masses. That is how you fundamentally change America as we know it to something unrecognizable. I thought Glenn Beck was off his rocker.
Over a few months I got up to speed. By Jove, Beck laid it all out. Then his DC appearance. Remained humble. Yep, heard he goes off the rails on occasion, but usually over minor points or endorsements. Beck rocked my world, but later I took the TVs to the dump and am living and loving off the land....in my dreams, lol. TV part is true.

Ok, the Bern ain't out of it yet. He will take a licking in SC and beyond but will keep on ticking. Never underestimate a man on a mission. Plus, a man who has nothing to lose is dangerous. The Berners will regroup soon enough and do their Battle of the Bulge thang. Can't hurt. They have nothing to lose.
Convential wisdom says The Bern is burnt. The beginning of the end. It was a short ride for Col. Sanders. But, that is convential wisdom and 2016 is an anomaly. .

George Rebane

PaulE 921am - I am somewhat aghast that you have no idea of the unique aspects of Gitmo's legal environment. It's comparison with that of being incarcerated on US soil has been detailed and debated for over seven years, and yet it has all missed you!? Unbelievable.

Walt's 1115am summarizes it well. But for more in-depth appreciation about the issue, please Google 'US vs Gitmo legal environment' and/or read
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2015/09/closing-guantanamo-a-legal-and-policy-analysis-of-the-senate-provision

George Rebane

GeorgeB 956am - Mr Boardman, I almost overlooked your riposte about Mr Brennan. A directed ad hominem from a man of your distinction, gravitas, and learning? From this I'm forced to conclude that your visits here also serve as an outlet for slumming from a life otherwise ordered and more practiced for intercourse within polite company.

Walt

Dr.R!!! Slumming??? These are high class digs! There is a real digital "slum lord" of the LIBS of Nev.Co., and you ain't him. Those who visit that place feel the need for a shower and a check for bugs.

OK Bill, I'm putt'n the "hardware" back in the armory. Your off the hook. " Flatearth".. Yup,, I can make that happen.

Bill Tozer

Walt,keep plucking those turkey feathers from the Left. It won't do any good, but it can't hurt either. Funnier than watching TV!

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/799302843537088/?type=3&theater

George Boardman

You guys have me all wrong. I find it amusing that Trump can be condescending to some of his supporters and nobody even blinks. Apparently some people are so desperate for change that they'll tolerate slights from the man they view as somebody who can lead them out of the wilderness.

Walt has portrayed himself in the past as a victim of our education system, but that doesn't mean I think its dumb and has nothing to contribute to the lofty discussions that place here. Walt shows flashes of humor, a sign of intelligence in my book. That's a refreshing change from people like Pelline, who can't even take a gentle poke in the ribs from NC Scooper.

fish

Posted by: George Boardman | 24 February 2016 at 01:58 PM


You guys have me all wrong. I find it amusing that Trump can be condescending to some of his supporters and nobody even blinks. Apparently some people are so desperate for change that they'll tolerate slights from the man they view as somebody who can lead them out of the wilderness.

Fair enough George!

I don't believe that you'll find a single commenter frequenting these pages who thinks Trump is going to "lead them out of the wilderness" (well maybe one). Personally I'm enjoying the Trumpening because he ties the media in knots and he's ended the Bushes as an establishment political force.

Anything that comes after is strictly gravy!

Walt

That's right George B.,, just because I don't have a sheepskin hanging on the wall,(that would be an "old school" college diploma for the ignorant readers here.) does not make me dumb or stupid. I didn't need a school room to learn things.
Working the dirt was the life for me. A new challenge was always there.
How is your hand with heavy equipment George B.? Think it's so simple a trained chimp could do it? ( in a few cases you might be right with computers and GPS lending a new hand)
You take the likes of me for granted. Guys like me build your houses, the roads and bridges. If it wasn't for us who were/are "uneducated",, you would still be wizzing out a window, or throwing that chamber pot out in the street. (nice way to treat that street "we" built.

BTW. I shake a rich man's hand. I don't try and cut it off. Those hands sign paychecks.

Trump knows how to build things and get things done. You can't say the same for Sanders. That guy couldn't drive a nail strait, gave up trying to build things, than found a way to get elected into politics. Nope,, an honest job was not for him.

George Rebane

fish 208pm - Agreed, almost. Who's the "maybe one"??

Specifically, let's not confuse between anyone who can only overturn the existing applecart with someone who can also refill it with an abundance of better apples. All we have witnessed in these comment streams are people who believe that Trump can do the former.

Walt

OK Fish,,"who thinks Trump is going to "lead them out of the wilderness" (well maybe one)."
Your not referring to me, now are you? (sure ya' are.) Guilty as charged.
I hope Trump turns out to the polar opposite of "O", yet use the same tricks. Hay!,, "O" set the precedent, and Congress allowed him to do so. (Both DEM and Repub)
Scrap the EPA? ( If there is a GOD) fire the Dept. of education? With any luck he will get the gov. off the back of business.
Lets see if he will turn the American worker loose to actually work, and not stand in some LIB inspired welfare soup line.


Bill Tozer

Fish @ 8 past 2 in the pm.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D4d8PHDG4yE

Sorry, it must have been.....drumroll please........ The Trump Effect.

Walt

As Dr.R. also pointed out about "climate change",, It done changed again.. And not good for those into wind. (or lack of it.)
http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/24/2015-turned-out-to-be-a-terrible-year-for-wind-power/

And we are to rely on this to keep the lights on? ( and some call ME stupid.....)

fish

Posted by: George Rebane | 24 February 2016 at 02:38 PM

Who's the "maybe one"??


When I was typing that sentence I was thinking Todd but upon further reflection he's more of a Cruz guy. So it would, as your follow on poster Walt suggests, be him!

Further.....my desire for an overturning of the existing applecart doesn't imply that the next batch of apples will be any better.....only different. It's likely to require a few "overturning" before the trajectory improves. In fact since we don't have ¡Jeb! to kick around anymore I'm going to have to pull for Hillary in the general for absolutely all the wrong reasons! If were lucky the next recession will kill the remnants of both establishment parties before the 2020 elections.


Posted by: Walt | 24 February 2016 at 02:49 PM

I hope Trump turns out to the polar opposite of "O", yet use the same tricks. Hay!,, "O" set the precedent, and Congress allowed him to do so. (Both DEM and Repub) Scrap the EPA? ( If there is a GOD) fire the Dept. of education? With any luck he will get the gov. off the back of business.
Lets see if he will turn the American worker loose to actually work, and not stand in some LIB inspired welfare soup line.


From your lips to gods ear Walt (assuming Hillary doesn't manage to ooze into power)!

Todd Juvinall

Hey did someone mention my name? LOL!

I was a Scott Walker guy, I even sent him money! And when he dropped out I have not picked another. Cruz has a crazy look in his eye so he is my last pick of the littler. I like Rubio's smarts and if he picks me as his Veep, I think i could support him. Trump to me is the mixer-upper. He has all the regular people in turmoil and I like that. I was always a "rebel" kinda guy and he strikes me as the same. I worry about his temperament. But tell me all you smart people. How is it that the country is in such a mess and it is all the regular politicians in charge? Trump has never voted to increase the debt. Remember, the Executive runs the five million bureaucrats, not Congress or the SCOTUS. I have a tendency to say I would rather have a outsider kicking their ass than a go along to get along politician of any party.

Brad C.

Will the old Reprobates on the Judiciary Committee accept a moderate Republican, Governor Sandoval, nominated by Obama, for SCOTUS? Of course not! What a bunch of fretful, cranky, fussy old men. It is not about who nominates a candidate - it is only about whether the candidate is fit for the job.

Walt

Think about it Brad, "O" does nothing that isn't in HIS and Progressives best interests in mind. Having not dug into Sandoval's history yet myself, (but the night is young) I smell the proverbial rat. No way in HELL would "O" put forth a Conservative judge when the rubber meets the road. "O" and the Left demand a turnover of thinking on the court. They want a judge to go THEIR bidding Like anti 2ND Amendment leanings as an example.

I do believe this guy's name is thrown out just to toss a dead skunk into the game.

Bill Tozer

Oh Brad. In a perfect world, the most qualified jurist would be selected for the bench. The best and brightest. But this ain't a perfect world. Look at that woman O selected to the Supreme Court. As Solicitor General she went before the Supreme Court 6 times and got her head handled to her 6 times. She batted .000 and she is on the bench now for goodness sakes. Best qualified? Hell no. Sonya M went from Hardvard Law straight to being a government 100% loser as Solicitor General. Big L carved into her wide forehead.. Well, at least she is Chicano Hispanic Latina Heat, so that makes her qualified.
It's not the most qualified in the real world. It's the one who can be selected and pass the blind eye/crooked eye test of the Senate. That's how it works.

Hang on. Breaking news! Secratary of State says he has to think about it and will get back to us....in a few decades.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/kerry-state-doing-additional-evaluation-decide-if-slaughter-mideast

fish

Posted by: Brad C. | 24 February 2016 at 05:09 PM

Yeah...funny that!

As Gregory has mentioned on a couple of earlier occasions, TEAM D had an opportunity to confirm an eminently qualified and legitimate constitutional scholar in Robert Bork they decided to get all "fretful, cranky, and fussy" and bowed to the screaming progressive rabble!

It works both ways Brad!

Don Bessee

No BC, its not about that, its about the separation of powers and that victory gives you power in politics. If one of your guys is taking over and you won the Senate previously, it was set up so you can stay the issue for the new guy who has a fresh mandate. Go see grandpa joes old speeches for context or if you want fresher meat watch ol' Harry Reid. The 2014 results gave that power to us and we expect our team to protect our interests and use their Constitutional powers to their full effect. I didn't hear you about 0's extra legal executive actions that the courts are already rolling back. That is the Courts exercising their Constitutionally granted powers in the same check and balance program as planned from the beginning.

Bill Tozer

Mr. Boardman@ 1:58 pm.

"Walt has portrayed himself in the past as a victim of our education system, but that doesn't mean I think its dumb and has nothing to contribute to the lofty discussions that place here."

See Walt, he does think you are dumb....Boardman just called you an it. "It's" dumb? What a snobbish SOB. No sir, Mr. Boardman, we don't have you all wrong. I find it amusing that as hard as you try to become one of boys and rub elbows with us lower companions, you still come off as a condescending SOB. It's?? Walt is an it??? Mercy, bet you wish you could take than slip of the tongue back. Too late. See you brought a shovel to your own funeral.
Well, Boardman is a good writer so that gets hm a little bit of street cred.
Trump insults us and is condescending? Yep. And we tolerate his slights. You bet. I don't care if he gets on stage like a crazied punk rocker, spits on the crowd, screams profanities at us, them leaps airborne out into the audience and leads us all in a nice bout of slam dancing. Just as long as he brings his hammer to smash the way things are, the way things are going, and, of course, all his opponents (real or imagined). Don't know if he will lead us out of he wilderness, but I hope he keeps arrogant SOB's crying in the dark.

Don't ever call my fat ugly wife a fat ugly wife. Don't ever call my piece of crap beat up old Jalopy a piece of crap beat up old Jalopy. And don't ever call my condescending rude, crude, and socially unacceptable candidate a condenscending rude, crude, and socially unacceptable candidate or I will sic The Donald on you. Snob!

Walt

Yup,, Bill,,,, it's a "redneck thing". Those dudes in fancy duds and shiney shoes just don't git it. Hell I don't even own a tie, let alone a suit to be buried in. Someone will have to buy one off the rack at the last minute.(down at the thrift store)
I wonder if the guy that cuts Boardman's grass even speaks English?

 Gregory

Sandoval would make a delightful SCOTUS nominee... for the eventuality of Justice Ginsberg's seat being open. That he could be President Obama's choice for the court would give him an liberal imprimatur that could not be denied for the next President who will probably have at least two to nominate, perhaps in the first two years.

Bill Tozer

Oh Walt, Duck Dynasty is not supporting our private citizen, The Man Donald. What's a redneck to do? Screw them ignorant inbred hillbilly gold diggers. Oh, they will come around.....like everybody else. In the meantime I will boycott ducks.

Walt

Hold that thought Bill.. Last I heard, Billy was backing Trump, and Pops was in Cruz's camp. Did something change?

Brad C.

Heard an interesting argument this morning. If the Reps don't let Obama nominate a SCOTUS candidate before the election (since Obama is now inclined to find a candidate that would appeal to both camps) they might regret it if a Dem gets elected Pres. and more Dems get elected to Congress.

Walt

Old news Brad. It's a role of the dice many of us are willing to take.
Like I said before. "O" won't nominate anyone who doesn't have LIB interests at heart.
Just like Rubio was elected by the Tea Party, then started wearing LIB kneepads.

fish

Yeah.....Walt, our proprietor, Turks apparently, a significant fraction of the electorate, and me all are comfortable waiting until after the election for Hillary to nominate a candidate.


"Turkish Officials Say They’ve Given Up On Obama Administration, Are Waiting On Successor."

fish

Sorry....my 10:09 was directed at Brad.

Jon

As previously noted.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/america-doesnt-have-enough-morons-to-elect-trump-baseball-stats-guru-says-2016-02-25

George Boardman

Re Tozer's 2/24 at 6:11 p.m.:

Its was a typo; it should have read "he's." As far as your wife and car are concerned, I'll take your word for it.

Re Walt's 2/24 at 623 p.m.:

Believe it or not, I cut the lawn. That's probably just as well because if Trump or Cruz get elected and follow through on their pledge to eject 12 million illegals, there won't be enough white guys willing to cut the lawns in LOP.

If that happens, I'd advise you to sell your gun stocks--it's going to be tough scaring people into buying more guns if the Repubs control the White House and Congress and get to pick the next Supreme Court justice--and load up on companies that manufacture lawn mowers, weed wackers and leaf blowers.

Bill Tozer

Hmmm.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/799663763500996/?type=3&theater

Yo Fish. Way off topic, but just for you.
https://www.facebook.com/CopsCorner/photos/a.539797912740366.1073741828.539785089408315/936150583105095/?type=3&theater

Jon. Well, there were enough morons to elect O twice. Having a Hillary or Bernie bumper sticker on your car is equivalent to shouting to the world, "Hey, a dumbass is behind the wheel." We may be morons but your kind are dumbasses. So there! :)

Bill Tozer

Polls: Rubio is getting crushed in Florida. Darn those morons.

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