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15 April 2016

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Russ

Remember this story from 2014?

On 10 April 2014, the USS Donald Cook entered the waters of the Black Sea and on 12 April a Russian Su-24 tactical bomber flew over the vessel triggering an incident that, according to several media reports, completely demoralized its crew, so much so that the Pentagon issued a protest [1].

The USS Donald Cook (DDG-75) is a 4th generation guided missile destroyer whose key weapons are Tomahawk cruise missiles with a range of up to 2,500 kilometers, and capable of carrying nuclear explosives. This ship carries 56 Tomahawk missiles in standard mode, and 96 missiles in attack mode.

The US destroyer is equipped with the most recent Aegis Combat System. It is an integrated naval weapons systems which can link together the missile defense systems of all vessels embedded within the same network, so as to ensure the detection, tracking and destruction of hundreds of targets at the same time. In addition, the USS Donald Cook is equipped with 4 large radars, whose power is comparable to that of several stations. For protection, it carries more than fifty anti-aircraft missiles of various types.

Meanwhile, the Russian Su-24 that buzzed the USS Donald Cook carried neither bombs nor missiles but only a basket mounted under the fuselage, which, according to the Russian newspaper Rossiyskaya Gazeta [2], contained a Russian electronic warfare device called Khibiny.

As the Russian jet approached the US vessel, the electronic device disabled all radars, control circuits, systems, information transmission, etc. on board the US destroyer. In other words, the all-powerful Aegis system, now hooked up - or about to be - with the defense systems installed on NATO’s most modern ships was shut down, as turning off the TV set with the remote control.

The Russian Su-24 then simulated a missile attack against the USS Donald Cook, which was left literally deaf and blind. As if carrying out a training exercise, the Russian aircraft - unarmed - repeated the same maneuver 12 times before flying away.

After that, the 4th generation destroyer immediately set sail towards a port in Romania.

Since that incident, which the Atlanticist media have carefully covered up despite the widespread reactions sparked among defense industry experts, no US ship has ever approached Russian territorial waters again.

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What lessons could Obama have learned from the 2014 incident, that could be applied to the current incident?

In the intelligence collection business, it is a standard tactic to stimulate the target radar defenses with a fake attack, while a stand-off collection platform records all the electronic activity, looking for weakness in the defense systems. In the 1970s the Air Force used the SR-71 to stimulate the Soviet radar network while stand-off aircraft scooped up the electronic intelligence. The Soviet's could be using the same tactics on the USS Cook? According to the news report, the USS Cook has been the target of numerous simulated attacks since it entered the Black Sea in 2014. The question is what useful intelligence did the US Navy collect during these recurring incidents? Seems like a good opportunity to me?


George Rebane

Russ 646am - Good points. I'm sure that both sides tried to collect as much sigint as possible during these high speed passes. It would be interesting to know the source of these Su-24s. Did they come through the Gulf of Finland or up from Kaliningrad, and at what range did we first detect them?

jon smith

According to a second person report in the Navy Times there was no radar painting coming from the jets and they were visibly unarmed.

http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/2016/04/13/why-navy-didnt-shoot-down-russian-jets/83000858/

George Rebane

jons 842am - Yes, I read that too. The "visibly unarmed" simply means that they did indeed make those simulated attack passes to gather sigint as witnessed by the pods each aircraft carried. Such maneuvers are SOP - if you're going to fly through someone's defensive perimeter, at least record with what and how they are looking at you. Re taking comfort in their lack of visible weapons means little since in a real attack they would launch stand-off weapons from out of visual range. It is clear that they did the fly-bys for both sigint and political purposes. The videos now shown worldwide are a Putting propaganda coup.

Jon

Its "Father Knows Best" yet again with the further insults directed against Millenials. Oh yes, a real good strategy to win over their hearts to the Far Right! LOL.

..perhaps they've seen the really bad side of right wing capitalism and are sick of being ripped off by the 1%..

Best of luck in this election and beyond!

George Rebane

Jon 1057am - You are clearly from the 'zero sum' clan of collectivists. Do you and yours have more details on how America's 1% are "ripping off" the millennials? Phrased another way - which of their activities/behaviors take money out of the millennials' pockets to line their own?

BTW, you should really contest Pew Research re their findings on millennials; I'm just a messenger trying to make sense of their deficits.

Todd Juvinall

This explains "jon" and his mental state.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/apr/15/cannabis-scientists-call-for-action-amid-mental-health-concerns

Jon

George, check out Bernie Sanders homepage for voluminous details on your inquiry about the accumulation of wealtb in this country. Not to mention the millions of internet links explaining the millennial point of view.
Thanks.

Gregory

I think "Jon" needs to be slapped silly by his "valet".

George Rebane

Jon 1241pm - Like you, Bernie doesn't answer my 1118pm in "voluminous detail" or in any other way. Is my question too difficult for the liberal mind?
https://berniesanders.com/issues/income-and-wealth-inequality/

Gregory

The "Jon" pretending to be the voice of Millennials is very reminiscent of the FUE, isn't it.

One hard working Millennial barista I know was ranting about how the people were paying taxes that go into the pockets of the corporations... but could provide no details. A Bernie voter for sure.

Walt

Great call Gregory,,, "The "Jon" pretending to be the voice of Millennials"
They have a new title. generation "WUSS". The "voice" matches the description.
And when the 15 an hour kicks in, someone will be wondering why he/she/it, isn't working.
2 out of every 3 are going to get canned. What will be the quick fix? Pass a law that says employers can't fire people. Right out of Atlas shrugged.

Bill Tozer

Altas Shrugged? I thought that was straight out of France or Greece.

https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913.80726.51560645913/10153666393205914/?type=3&theater

Don Bessee

WEALTB? Must be tagging the butane hash oil tonight there the 'jon'. ;-)

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