Reinette: ‘I will not resign’ (updated 18jul16)

[13jul16 - This commentary sans update also appeared in the op-ed pages of today's Union.] 

George Rebane

Well good for her, she has the courage of her convictions and the determination to represent her constituency – the people who voted for her.  While I take great exception to Reinette Senum’s grossly uninformed assertion that the nation’s police “have obviously been given directives to go out there and kill. It’s insane and it’s meant to create mayhem”.  Holding that belief and stating it publicly should not be grounds for requiring an elected public official to resign.  It may be one of the few honest statements politicians have made in this election season about what they believe.

I have known Reinette for years and have enjoyed working with her on panels and local media broadcasts.  We have broken bread together and taken the time to trade views and ideas.  While as a conservetarian I don’t fly in tight formation with her politics and many of her public policies, I do respect her as a strong and energetic voice for a significant and perhaps dominant constituency of Nevada City neighbors who have visibly celebrated her many works in the community.  Today she again represents these people in city government.

We live in a democratic republic in which citizens get to decide the politics and policies of their representatives.  And running unopposed in Nevada City, Reinette was nevertheless elected to serve on the City Council by over 1,000 voters.  It is these people she represents, and they deserve to have their representative seated and serving their best interests.  In our form of governance it is not for those in other jurisdictions to judge and remove those for whom Nevada City voted.

Since we have not heard an outcry from Ms Senum’s constituents asking for her resignation or demanding her recall because she misrepresented herself to them, we can reasonably presume that her stated sentiments also represent those who voted for her.  The only voices that should matter in this affair should be those of Reinette’s constituents.  In America it is not a crime for one cohort of citizens to hold views, whether or not politically correct,  that disagree with those of others even if they are the majority.  In our land diverse and minority viewpoints should also be heard, and they should also be represented in public offices as the laws allow.  Hang in there Reinette.

[13jul16 update] Ms Senum made an additional statement reported in the 11jul16 Union where she is quoted on the front page regarding her controversial Facebook post.  From the Union article –

“It’s a conversation that is overdue,” she told The Union Sunday. “Obviously I hit a sore spot. But it’s a conversation that needs to happen,” adding the whole thing is a concealed political attack from a local group who tries to damage her reputation.  “We will be dealing with them shortly, this is much deeper than what it seems,” she said.

The obvious question on every reader’s mind – Which local group is it whose members will be dealt with shortly?  And who are the “we” surrounding Ms Senum that will be doing what kind of  “dealing”?

A correspondent brought this little item to my attention, and I was unable to answer these questions.  Can anyone help?

[14jul16 update]  Last night at a special meeting called to address council member Reinette Senum’s above reported remarks, the City Council of Nevada City unanimously passed a resolution in support of the Nevada City Police Department and the nation’s police departments.  I thank NC Administrative Supervisor Ms Corey Shaver for sending me a pre-release copy of the passed resolution that has yet to be numbered and fully signed before its official release and posting on the city’s website.  Readers can Download NCresolution_13jul16 .

[18jul16 update]  George Boardman, Union columnist and RR commenter, wrote an excellent article in today’s (18jul16) Union that fills some holes in the community’s awareness of Mr Senum’s deeper ideological recesses and views of the world.  Most of us have been unaware of the lady’s extensive writings and strong opinions found on her FB page which Mr Boardman has researched and presented to us.  From my reading of the piece, the quoted bagatelles are not just gratuitous pickings to pique our ire, but instead represent a germane development of Ms Senum’s attitudes along with some fundamental tenets of her belief system.  In this they are a positive contribution to the community’s ongoing discussion of a complex and multi-faceted issue that cannot and should not be dismissed with one of the several pithy ten-second soundbites now making the rounds.  The Reinette Senum Affair may yet serve as a productive teaching episode for our community.

 

Comments

[Todd Juvinall]

Hey did you know that Pelline is saying their is a "conspiracy" in the reactions to Senum? George Boardman has a post on his blog. What a hoot!

[George Boardman]

You really have Pelline confused now.

[Todd Juvinall]

Hey after a bunch of nuts tried to recall me when I was on the BOS putting the government center together, I guess someone trashing their own police department is a piece of cake.

[fish]

Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 11 July 2016 at 10:56 AM

Remember Conspiracy Theories and Conspiracy Theorists are all completely crazy....except for those in which jeffy happens to believe...then its all coldly and efficiently rational.

You should be more gentle with jeffy..... the chicken gravy that he uses for blood plays havoc with his higher reasoning centers.

[Bill Tozer]

It's a conspiracy I tell ya, a bloody Vast Right Wing Conspiracy!

Mr. Boardman was spot on his blog..(aptly named NC Roadkill).....thanks for the heads up, Mr Todd.
Favorite quote from NC Roadkill:

"When you make an incredibly stupid statement on Facebook at a time when everybody is hypersensitive, negative reaction on the Internet will spread faster than a foothills brush fire"...... "No conspiracy is necessary."

What, no conspiracy???? Darn, I just hate it when that happens. Somebody needs to explain to me what this odd word "Podunk" means. I am not acquainted with its meaning or origin....but that call be addressed in the Sandbox at a later date. I am still going to go out there into the Netherlands and find myself a good conspiracy. It's out there somewhere. Can't ya'll just feel it in the wind blowing through the treetops? I feel it.

Resign? Ha! Surely you jest.

[Gregory]

RS didn't need to apologize for the statement, she needed to retract the statement and somehow convince people, especially law enforcement officers, she really didn't believe what she wrote.

Does anyone think she doesn't believe what she wrote?

This is up to RS, the mayor, her fellow councilmembers and voters within the NC city limits. Also the Nevada City PD and the county Sheriffs.

KNCO just broadcast the original Senum statement in their 11:30AM news break, along with the claim that some are calling for her resignation, so it doesn't appear the heat is lessening.

I fully expect business is up at the restaurant... a show of support from fellow travelers. But long term, she needs the greater community to trade cash for good food in this town to keep the doors open.

[Don Bessee]

Dr. R- The first line of her post is important; "This was completely incited by America's police force." Then she goes to conspiracy theory part. From what I am hearing this is far from over.

The Union did her no favor by not even bothering to say what it was that started the explosion on social media. Can's say I am surprised they would be working to protect her but it was ham handed in this case and is starting its own dust cloud.

[jon smith]

GR 7/11
"The only voices that should matter in this affair should be those of Reinette’s constituents."

Whether we voted for her our not, every citizen in Nevada City is now her constituent. [Constituency: the residents in an electoral district - Websters] I believe that when one accuses "America's police" of having open season on American lives she has stopped speaking to only her constituents, but to every American and even more pointedly, to every peace officer in this country. Their voices matter, not only the voices of her constituents. 1,000 people voted for her, but nearly 2,500 didn't, and that's when we had no alternative choice from which to choose. I would hardly call that a referendum. Our collective voices and opinions didn't stop on election day.

[George Rebane]

jons 1237pm - And what's your point Mr smith?

[Bill Tozer]

Dr. Rebane @ 12:45.
I agree 100% with your post. Nevada City and any village has the right to choose which person the voters deem best to represent them, their values, or their community's values as they see fit.
Nevada City will do what Nevada City does best. RS indeed represents the values, beliefs, world view, and thought processes of many of her constituents.

Mr. Smith point is plain as day. So it Don's, and mine. Those first two lines are a big stumbling block on the road to letting bygones be bygones. Like, the pass is blocked and no other way around. I am starting to let it go cause I have zero say in the matter, but her shocking and reprehensible statements cut too close to the bone. What Mr. Smith's point is clear to me:: the deeper the cut, the longer it takes to heal. At this moment in time, it appears that this open fresh oozing wound may never quite heal up and scar over. Time will tell.
For me, I expect a majority of the good people of Nevada City to stand with and stand behind "their kind", that woman, Ms. S.
For anybody in the Berkely of the Foothills to act surprised by the coast to coast firestorm caused directly and exclusively by RS and then turnaround and expect the township not to be held up to ridicule combined with disbelief...well, that is an unreasonable and unjustified request.

More proof that Pelline and the good folks of Quaintytown live in a bubble.
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Old injuns say, "you can bury the hachet, but no one forgets where it is buried." Some of us just quite find the switch and turn it all off....yet...possibly not for many many moons.

[fish]

Annie Fox says:

July 11, 2016 at 8:48 am

I went to look for Reinette’s original statement and seems it was taken down. I only caught a bit on the news stations. My heart and prayers go out to the officers in Dallas and their families. The incident was totally uncalled for. At least we don’t have to give the shooter 3 hots and a cot. On another note, seems I was able to respond to Jon Dozer’s post a couple of days ago here without fish’s permission. Oh well. It’s not like he can do anything about it anyway.

Indeed I can't....not that I would even if I was able! The only person who affects whether or not you may post at jeffys is the wielder of the chubby fist jammed up your flue.

[jon smith]

"Reinette was nevertheless elected to serve on the City Council by over 1,000 voters. It is these people she represents. . ."
"Since we have not heard an outcry from Ms Senum’s constituents asking for her resignation or demanding her recall. . ."

I infer from your statements that she represents only the 1,000 people who voted for her. Perhaps we have not heard an outcry from the 1,000 people who voted for her, but we have certainly heard an outcry (loud and clear) from her constituents.

[Bill Tozer]

Do you think, Dr. Rebane, that "that woman, Ms. S" really believes she has to walk it all back, knowing inside her soul that what she said is "the truth"? She only walked back the broad brush statement that caught the local PD in her snare. Oh, not our boys! I love our boys. We work together all the time....I meant every LE elsewhere, since I got our boys in line." She ain't walking nothing back.

"I apologize if some read my words as offensive, but I will never apologize for telling the truth!" Is how I read her tearful Mea Culpa........ and her thousands of cops committ murder every year and get away with it as a defense does not help matters in the short term.

[George Rebane]

jons 119pm - Mr smith, a constituency is also "any body of supporters, customers, etc.; clientele", and it should be clear that this was the more nuanced definition I used. Within that context I most certainly did NOT use 'constituent' to mean all the citizens living in Nevada City. After all, there is a small persistent yet unrepresented cohort living there that for years has seen no representation of their views/interests in city hall. I would not call such people "supporters" of Ms Senum.

In any event it is the silent voters of Nevada City who by their silence countenance Ms Senum's sentiments. I'm sorry I didn't say it clearly enough for you to understand the distinction.

[Todd Juvinall]

Senum and two others filled three spots. They were on the ballot but did not need to be as usually they just get appointed because of the obvious. But people did fill in the bubbles because that is what we usually do when someone's name is there. So sure, we can say 1000 voted for her but that was rally unnecessary. I saw Congress people who were croaked get 20000 votes. Anyway, I believe her constituents are saying she should resign as the petition has almost 2500 on it and many from the town. I think she should resign to show the people and the police her sincerity. But she won't.

I think she was also involved i the attempt to get Rush off KNCO and led boycotts of vendors. If so, what goes around comes around.

[Bill Tozer]

Darn, you would think she would have learned something after heading off to NYC on her fact finding mission walking amidst the happy throngs of Occupy Wall Street....with her like minded fellow researchers. Wonder if she slept down among the rift-raff drum circle types and got a little dirt on her. I myself like to get closer to the stink to get a true picture of what's happening where the rubber meets the road. Nah, she probably had a nice bed to sleep in at a friend's pad.
Yes, I am kicking a dead horse. Hey, what difference at the point does it matter anyway?

Resign ain't going to happen. At City Hall, they just want it to evaporate into thin air like the morning mist after the sun rises. Darn, they just want it to go away. It will go away...somebody out there in Nevada City, CA, 95959 must know how to put the genie back into the bottle....oh yeah, nothing to see here, move on.

[Bill Tozer]

The good news. From Pelline to Yuba Net, they finally put a face on it. That changes everything. I just wished Dozer had the capacity to put a face on Chris Stevens before he did the Dozer Happy Dance, but that was too much to expect. I should have known better. They sure sing a different tune after putting a face on a "Nevada City councilwoman." Putting a face in it makes it all too real and makes them take a pause and drop that flippant response crap.
Yuba.net has Quaintytown's New Proclaimation and Hallowed Resolution devoid of any story or background. They must have put a face on it, too. Silence is golden, duct tape is silver. I seriously doubt Ms. S will sign the resolution supporting LE because of the Proclaimation's last half of the last sentence.
http://yubanet.com/regional/Nevada-City-to-pass-resolution-in-support-of-the-Nevada-City-Police-Department-and-law-enforcement-nationwide.php#.V4P3TJBHarU

If I did not know better, even Dr. Rebane wants this all to go away. It does get boring after awhile.

[Don Bessee]

Special meeting of the Nevada City Council to pass a resolution supporting the NCPD and LE nation wide. 6:30pm Wed July 13, Nevada City Hall.

This should be interesting. Where are they going to park all the satellite dish news vans?

Yubanet got defensive when a poster questioned the issue of no background on the story as to why they needed a special meeting. Who will have the most protesters? Media circus in down town Nevada City, film at 11.

[Bill Tozer]

The Internet has changed the way we communicate and can be harmful to one's vocational opportunities

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/detroit-cop-demoted-called-black-activists-terrorists-40497538.

[Todd Juvinall]

Well, I guess the internet has changed how and how fast we communicate. Here is the latest LA Times. Many LA cops move here and are here.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-nevada-city-councilwoman-dallas-20160711-snap-htmlstory.html

[Bill Tozer]

Aha, my link got pulled...it was about a cop who called BLM terrorists on his personal FB page and done got demoted. Nothing to see there, literally.

Don @ 2:33 pm
ROFLMFUEO!! It's true. Read the comment at Yuba Net. Somebody asked them where is the story and they replied that is the story. Sweet!! Tis true, tis true. Ok, I will back off Yuba Net and NCTV and every Scared Cow and invaluable, irreplaceable community access in Nirvana City.

Gotta love it. Hey, community news reporter, where is the story? A: that is the story. Like going into an All You Can Eat buffet and they pull your plate out from under ya and tell you that's all YOU can eat.- Lol. Oh, I was looking for a good laugh today. Hey, anybody know where the f¥ck Lithuania is??
That is the news! Oh, make em stop, please make em stop. I am going to bust a gut laughing. Sorry, it just was too funny....ok, I will be stop,,Lol, too funny.

[rl crabb]

One of the many bones of contention I have with Jeffy is his oft-stated opinion that it is the "hard right" denizens of Nevada County who are giving us such bad publicity. Well, in the last year or so we've seen stories in the news about our anti-vaxxers, tinfoiled mental cases, and now this. The left wing of Nevada County is easily as crazy as you fright wing, arab hating nutjobs.
Reinette will never be recalled. It is up to her to decide whether her presence on the council is doing more harm than good. I like her, but she definitely is a long way from the mainstream, and contrition is not her strong suit. I suppose it will depend on how long this lives in the collective news memory.

[fish]

Posted by: rl crabb | 11 July 2016 at 03:12 PM

The left wing of Nevada County is easily as crazy as you fright wing, arab hating nut jobs.

Don't hate them RL....less than impressed with them as a society....and were it not for the criminally stupid foreign policy the citizenry has has to suffer the past 30 or so years there would be no reason or justification to import the bitter, Koran clinging, cousin marrying, room temperature IQ having, German molesting nitwits into western civilization which is having more than enough trouble all by itself without cruddying up the gene pool further thank you very much!

[Don Bessee]

Well crabman the fact it is just starting to spin up in the national news and will likely be on national cable news soon, this is just the beginning of the cycle.

KNCO- From Evans Phelps, Nevada City Mayor- Phelps says the council cannot force her to resign, but thinks that would be a, the best way to resolve the issue. 222pm PDT July 11 2016

[rl crabb]

Unfortunately, I won't be able to attend the roasting on Wednesday night. I'll be across the street hawking "There's a Full Moon Every Night in Nevada City" T-shirts at Summer Nights. It will be interesting to see whether this latest blemish hurts or helps sales. The old town is certainly living up to the slogan.

[Don Bessee]

I bet there is a lot of mooning going on at the boardwalk. You should be able to sell a bunch of t-shirts to all the out of town news teams! ;-)

[Todd Juvinall]

Posted by: rl crabb | 11 July 2016 at 03:12 PM

The left wing of Nevada County is easily as crazy as you fright wing, arab hating nut jobs.

Thank you! But add me to "fish's" statement. And you can deal with that in a cartoon! Ain't America great. Crabb moderates me off his site for what he just said here. Gotta love it.

[Don Bessee]

Yubanet is censoring comments on their story about the NC Councils emergency meeting wed. Someone asked why no background on why the special meeting and got blown off. I tried to post the language of Senums statement that resulted in the special meeting and it was never posted. Same thing happened when I tried to post the link to the LA times article today.

Yubanet has lost all credibility as an independent news source by acting like the dark lord of liberal lament land in this obvious attempt to protect Senum.

[Bill Tozer]

Oh Todd @ 4:52 pm. if we couldn't laugh, we would all go insane. Yep, it's unfair.

Besides, I already bought me a There Is A Full Moon Every Night in Nevada City tee shirt...moons ago. Yo, Mr. Crabb, got any other colors besides black? In light of the current events, RS makes this Arab hating nut job look great by comparison. I feel like I should be wearing a white "Moon" tee shirt. And a white hat to dress the part.That's what the good spies wore in Mad Magazine. The one you peddled me looked like it rained on the box you kept in the garage, but I bought it anyway.....and that Best Of RL book that he personally autographed. Thank you. Never know, the book might be worth something someday. Still got the tee shirt hanging in the closet.....like new, barely worn. :). Ah, I would do it again just to help a brother out.
Well Todd, it is only funny until somebody steps on our toes. Then it ain't so funny. People with big hearts feel more pain, so you got a big heart there.

Ok, last but not least, I have this cold dish in the fridge I have been waiting to serve the lefty brain dead wackos. Waiting for the right moment to say to the good folks of Quaintytown, "Yo Liberals, Progressives and assorted Pinkos: what you say is wrong, what you think is wrong, what you do is wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Your hate speech is wrong. Come to the light." That's what they have been telling me for decades. Still, it ain't fair. I owe ya more mocking. Suck it up and live to fight another day.

[Don Bessee]

Uh-OH KNCO quotes NC Mayor, 'Phelps says the Council cannot force her to resign, but thinks that would be a best way to resolve the issue.'

http://knco.com/phelps-cant-force-senum-to-resign

[Bill Tozer]

Z

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/874991299301575/?type=3&theater

[Gary Smith]

Thanks Dr. Rebane, well said. If the people of Nevada City want to, I bet they can recall her. Am I the only one that see's the irony in all this, that Nevada County is 89% white with a 1% black population according to the Nevada County Demographic and Statistical Profile 13-14 report from the CEO's office? That 1% is being generous as they probably can't do a half percentage. Nevada City police would have a hard time finding black people to harass. She said this morning in the paper that she made those comments as a private citizen not representing Nevada City. I would think that she would know by now that being an elected official means that anything she says publicly reflects on Nevada City 24/7 and there is no time clock. At a minimum, I hope she looks in mirror and says to herself "that was dumb, when am I going to learn to keep my mouth shut."

[Bill Tozer]

Mr. Gary Smith, that irony has not been lost on neither the left, right, or tweeners. Anytime we try to discuss the topic of the urban rat cage and the solutions to the permanent black underclass, we get pelted by the lefties, ridiculed that we old angry white racist dudes in Lillywhite Township don't have a clue about what we are gabbing about...because we are so far removed and isolated from the stink. Fair enough. We learned we can't sit around the pickle barrel on our rockers solving the world's problems over a cup of mud from Whitey Town.
But, now.......the shoe is on the other foot. RS's throngs of supporters need to move the dialogue to the "bigger issue" ASAP to take the focus of her. That is their plan. Yes, I do see the irony....oh Mr. Gary, we do see the irony more that you can imagine ....those lefties are so out of touch they even call somebody spending a weekend at the Wayne C Brown Correctional Facility as "going to prison". That should tell ya all you need to know.

[Bill Tozer]

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg58d8opQKA

[Bonnie McGuire]

GR...Thanks for your comments about Reinette S. I admire her courage and hard work. She may have goofed verbally, but those who haven't at some time can cast the first stone. We're all human and far from perfect. Personally, I think she's a good person who mispoke and apologized...so should be forgiven.

[Todd Juvinall]

I would say we should be Christian and forgive, but sorry, I cannot. What she said was egregious and for all my police pals, she is toast. Regarding forgiveness. I am being attacked on FB by Song Cowbell. She once testified at a BOS meeting I chaired and sang a original song about cow farts or something. Even though she was and is a loon, I treated her with respect. Yet 30 years later she attacks me and calls me some pretty nasty names. You can't fix stupid apparently.

[Don Bessee]

Bonnie of course we can forgive in our Christion hearts.
The issue here is that she is manifestly unfit to have any oversight of first responders or their budgets, policies or personnel decisions.

While communities of color across the country are sponsoring solidarity with LE events including Snoop Dogg in LA Senum goes viral with HER TRUTH FROM HER HEART. She defended it all day and was on TV doubling down about police murders.

Even the Mayor of Nevada City has said her resignation would be best.

Will ego create a massive media event that further damages the City and County of the same name?

[Bill Tozer]

Loved Bonnie's post. Bonnie walks the talk.

Bonnie, It might do us all a favor to read this in light of recent national hysteria (remember the bullying hysteria?) and one could see how RS got caught up in things much bigger than her...the old heart vs mind, feelings vs facts thang.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/07/11/greg-gutfeld-dallas-attacks-killed-five-injured-318-million.html

[Jon Dozer]

Thank you Bonnie. Agree with you 100%, And I see and appreciate that you are a sincere Christian. Its nice to see the authenticity, as opposed to a phony christian like Todd, only interested in the political points that can be scored, and hell bent on the destruction of a human being who has put her heart and soul into Nevada City.

[Bill Tozer]

-it just goes on and one.

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/07/11/california-councilwoman-under-pressure-to-resign-for-insane-anti-cop-facebook-post-363658Q

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/07/10/calif-councilwoman-under-pressure-to-resign-over-her-now-deleted-facebook-post-on-dallas-shooting/

You get the idea, plus every web site and paper in Texas, including the Aggies. That cut real real deep down in the heart of Texas. Word to the wise: don't mess with Texas.

[Bill Tozer]

Holy Crap!! Now even the Russian news feeds it using RS's direct comments to use as anti-American spin...this can't be good. Oh boy. Cops running amok shooting people at random ...travel advisory warning may be issued for forgein visitors to the USA. Forgive her, then stash her in a safe house til this blows over...

[Gregory]

Reality check... there is no racial bias in police shootings

https://www.theguardian.com/news/reality-check/2016/jul/11/study-finds-no-racial-bias-police-shootings-data

The study's author is a black Harvard law prof.

[Bill Tozer]

Moving beyond what one councilwoman feels deeply about, lets expand the "diagolue" a wee bit.
Do Black Lives even matter to blacks? This guy from the hood says no. Too many pearls to quote. This is so far beyond RS that it makes the current little dust up concerning what a resturant co-owner said on social media seem like a particle of dust.
Do Black Lives matter outside the clips on YouTube of events thousands of miles away and not outside your front door? Provocative. Facts or Fiction? You decide.

http://bluelivesmatter.blue/they-call-me-uncle-tom/

[Gregory]

From the "apology":
"The intent was not to vilify our police force but to point out a well documented trend that is causing a public backlash towards the police."

Oft repeated does not equal well documented.

Back at the scooper... Gloria Zane lives!
https://www.ncscooper.com/area-blogger-considering-run-for-vacated-nevada-city-council-seat/

[jon smith]

Bill
Russians? Seriously? Where did you hear that?

[fish]

Zero Hedge now.......congrats Reinette you've made the big time!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-12/california-councilwoman-suggests-dead-dallas-cops-got-what-they-deserved

[Bill Tozer]

Jon smith @ 8:09 am. Hey, you ain't dumb enough to believe everything you read on the Internet, are you? It was satire...albeit the Russian owned (or Russian sympathizer site) I randomly check out when bored had the same story about a councilwoman in Northern California who said blah, blah, blah. I thought it was funny it was picked up overseas and ran with it. Sorry. Immediately after posting I realized forgot to add a smilely face or disclaimer.
Yo, Dr. Rebane, please remove my 11 July, 2016, 11:59 pm or almost midnight.. Thanks.

It's the same site that had pics of Obama with Hilter mustaches and runs interviews with Ivan Q. Public on the street in Moscow ridiculing our First Lady's healthy eating campaign, with pics of her eating bananas. It's propaganda. Not a racist or Far Right Extremist European feed as such, just Putin's boys poking Obama in the eye, being careful to thread the needle between saying anything bad or undiplomatic against America while sending Obama and State taunting messages via trashing his wife. Even our own State Department has filed grievances via our diplomatic channels in Moscow to clean up some of the more offensive pics of our First Lady.
Hey, I say keep your pinko hands off our First Lady. She is our First Lady. She should be off limits. They have as much respect for OUR First Lady as they do for Hillary's reset button, an object of much ridicule. It's personal. At least they never touch OUR first family's kids, so at least even the Ruskies don't cross that line.
Old joke: "Don't believe every quote attributed to Lincoln on the Internet"
Ulysses S. Grant, 1874 .

[Bonnie McGuire]

Anyone who has been in this world very long, and paid attention, recognizes we're being emotionally stirred up to behave like idiots and persecute whomever is the designated target. It's a spiritual test to see if you are what you claim. With this in mind you might like to read this local story about an unpopular man that was written by the late Bob Paine.
http://www.mcguiresplace.net/The%20Wild%20Bill%20Ebaugh%20Story
Those who knew Bill said he was a vegetarian and kind. (Not a likely cattle rustler.) The family of his alleged victim didn't think he was the killer. Rumors claimed the accusers wanted the accused gold mining claim. So the moral of this story is to beware of being swept up into lynch mob mentality.

[rl crabb]

Those of us who have lived in these parts for at least forty years know about Wild Bill. It was a taboo subject in Nevada City, and anyone who asked too many questions could count on a death threat. It was only until a few years ago that a play about the sordid affair was performed at the Nevada Theater without any nastiness. I suppose that's because all the guilty parties are dead and buried. Old grudges take a long time to heal in our neck of the woods.

[George Rebane]

Gregory 717am - Thanks for the link to that study. I heard about it yesterday and meant to dig it up, but forgot to dig it up - life got in the way ;-)

[Bill Tozer]

Nice post again, Bonnie. Lynch mob? Well, only the good citizens of Quaintytown with 3 digit address can lynch her and they probably are too ignorant to tie a proper noose. 13 knots. The rest are just the mob in the peanut gallery and they won't have a rope.

Perhaps you could go out and talk to them....especially the wives of every LE officer who at times fall to their knees whenever that thought in the back minds come to the forefront and they have to face that thought again and again in silence. "Please God, bring him home tonight alive".

Only one time did I catch my Mom doing that. I was just a rebel without a cause clueless teenager when I surprised my Mom, catching her on her knees weeping one day with her elbows resting on the Dad chair. . "Are you ok, Mom?", I softly asked? She was nearly broken, wiped her eyes, stood up and gathered herself. " Oh, sometimes I worry if you father will come home alive tonight." That was the one and only time she ever mentioned that until the day she died. Just caught her in a vulnerable moment when the worry she neatly hid everyday bubbled out of her.

Identifying the assiniated 5 cops as the culprits will result in a mob, mostly fueled by friends and wives and children and parents and families of the Fraternal Order of Police Officers. They need to vent before they, like my Mom, shake it off and compose themselves. Go out there Bonnie and tell them no to have their feelings...tell them to shake it off and compose themselves...which they will, but in their timetable, not yours. Not only should we put a face on "a councilwoman in some spot on the map nobody ever heard of, perhaps you can put a face on the the spouses and children and widows as well.
Mob mentality, fuck yes! Will it last much longer? Nope. In their time, not anybody else's.

You can find them here, there, everywhere. Start with the Washington Times.
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/reinette-senum-calif-city-councilwoman-says-police/

[Bill Tozer]

On a final note:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154168459941885&set=a.10154168458101885.1073743458.663646884&type=3&theater

[Don Bessee]

Tozer, Senum is infamous from sea to shining sea now.

[fish]

Posted by: Don Bessee | 12 July 2016 at 02:23 PM

Indeed! I've seen her on unz.com, zero hedge.com, and a few others in addition to much of the first and second tier media outlets. Talk about stepping in it!

[Walt]

Great job of putting Nevada city on the map. Bloody fantastic.
If she is ever in need of help, the cops just might have plenty of flat tires on that particular day.

[Don Bessee]

Fish- Time for another Alaska walk?

[George Rebane]

If there is no discouraging word from Reinette's voters identifying themselves as such, then there is plenty of evidence that her "grossly uninformed assertion" about the police is held by a significant fraction of the Left, here in Nevada City and elsewhere. In short, she is not alone in holding those sentiments but a spokeswoman for many.

To corroborate the broader mindset of the Left about all this, it is instructive to read some leftwing blogs that are totally committed to identifying the Right's reaction to Reinette as the greater danger to the country while ignoring what set off this national whirlwind.

[Bonnie McGuire]

Men and women who face danger to save the lives of others are heros...regardless of who or where they are. We should all uphold the law in order to have a better society. Those who swear an oath to uphold the law used to be held to a higher standard, and if they didn't their punishment was more severe than the ordinary citizen breaking the law. I remember a judge chastising someone in law enforcement and explaining the difference.
A corrupt officer endangers the entire force by giving it a bad reputation. It is the duty of the Chief, or Sheriff to make those under his command tow the line. Can you imagine what it would be like in an immoral, corrupt society? There are many areas in America that are terrifying and if it weren't for our brave, good policemen trying to protect people from the lawless nothing and no one would be safe. I don't know about you, but I'm sick and tired of the same o same o technique stirring the pot of self destruction. I hope we'll shape up and change for the better. You've probably seen Paul Harvey's prophetic talk he gave in 1965 describing the path to our nation's problems.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Az0okaHig

[Bonnie McGuire]

Oops! My mistake. Here's Paul Harvey:
http://toprightnews.com/if-i-were-the-devil-the-prophetic-words-of-paul-harvey-from-1965/

“If I were the devil, I wouldn’t be happy until I had seized the ripest apple on the tree—Thee. So I’d set about however necessary to take over the United States. I’d subvert the churches first—I would begin with a campaign of whispers. With the wisdom of a serpent, I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve: “Do as you please.” “Do as you please.” To the young, I would whisper, “The Bible is a myth.” I would convince them that man created God instead of the other way around. I would confide that what is bad is good, and what is good is “square”. And the old, I would teach to pray. I would teach them to pray after me, ‘Our Father, which art in Washington…’
And then I’d get organized. I’d educate authors on how to lurid literature exciting, so that anything else would appear dull and uninteresting. I’d threaten TV with dirtier movies and vice versa. I’d pedal narcotics to whom I could. I’d sell alcohol to ladies and gentlemen of distinction. I’d tranquilize the rest with pills.

If I were the devil I’d soon have families that war with themselves, churches that war that themselves, and nations that war with themselves; until each in its turn was consumed. And with promises of higher ratings I’d have mesmerizing media fanning the flame. If I were the devil I would encourage schools to refine young intellects, and neglect to discipline emotions—just let those run wild, until before you knew it, you’d have to have drug sniffing dogs and metal detectors at every schoolhouse door.

Within a decade I’d have prisons overflowing, I’d have judges promoting pornography—soon I could evict God from the courthouse, and then the schoolhouse, and then from the houses of Congress. And in His own churches I would substitute psychology for religion, and deify science. I would lure priests and pastors into misusing boys and girls, and church money. If I were the devil I’d make the symbols of Easter an egg and the symbol of Christmas a bottle.

If I were the devil I’d take from those, and who have, and give to those wanted until I had killed the incentive of the ambitious. What do you bet I could get whole states to promote gambling as the way to get rich? I would question against extremes and hard work, and Patriotism, and moral conduct. I would convince the young that marriage is old-fashioned, that swinging more fun, that what you see on the TV is the way to be. And thus I could undress you in public, and I could lure you into bed with diseases for which there is no cure.

In other words, if I were to devil I’d keep on doing on what he’s doing. Paul Harvey, good day.”

[jon smith]

Every major news outlet has now carried this story across the nation, but ONLY because, as Adora McNeil says on Nevada County News and Information, "Got some real haters in this town . . . had to go crying to the newspapers." Give the lady some grape Kool Aid Reinette.

I wish Senum would resign and go back to selling her taco and conspiracy theories in the private sector. It would be the best for her, the best for Nevada City, and best for every city employee. It would be impossible for anyone to argue with a straight face that it is in the best interest of anyone for Senum to remain an official spokesperson and face of our community. There is one, and only one, reason she would choose not to resign. Ego.

[Don Bessee]

Ms. McNeil might want to look at the Unions latest on its website, it has the CH 13 video as well as National media coverage including the full original statement that Senum defended and really meant. While she deleted it Friday at 930pm it was too late. Lots of people captured or printed it before the deletion and reposted or emailed the whole thread. As the dark lord of liberal lament land reminds us, the internet changes the way we communicate. ;-)

Has anyone heard what time the LE families protest starts in Nevada City tomorrow? I think there are going to be lots of blue outfits, balloons and ribbons for the TV news teams.

[jon smith]

Bonnie-
"You've probably seen Paul Harvey's prophetic talk he gave in 1965 describing the path to our nation's problems." Heck yes, Bonnie. Seems like only yesterday. Not.
I'm happy you can act as a spokesperson for your buddy the red guy with the pointy tail. Bonnie, thee are the whacked out equivilant for the right as is Reinette for the left. Maybe this is what passes for balance in Nevada County.

[Bill Tozer]

http://www.azfamily.com/story/32409840/city-councilors-facebook-post-blames-police

http://www.courthousenews.com/2016/07/11/blaming-police-for-dallas-killings-brings-trouble-for-calif-town-leader.htm

Insane?
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/07/11/california-councilwoman-under-pressure-to-resign-for-insane-anti-cop-facebook-post-363658

Ah, forget it. 3 more pages from our Lodi to some place called Tampa Bay. Odd. This is too much work.
https://news.google.be/news/more?ncl=dpOQwidMQRakCVM0-rA9JaePlq7WM&authuser=0&ned=us

[Todd Juvinall]

Some things are just unforgivable.

[Don Bessee]

Will O'Riely send Jessie Waters to Nevada City tomorrow?

[Bill Tozer]

I feel that....Obama's extreme left wacko political talking points speech today before the bodies of the honored fallen at the funeral was beyond unconscionable into the realm of diabolical. Spouting the need for black social programs to every solution offered by the left since the Great Society...he reverted to sounding like the racist is his and became unhinged sounding more like a BLM radical than a president.....all in front of the bodies about to be laid to rest. He had no self control, even at a funeral. The officers had to stay out of respect for the fallen and support the grieving in their hour of need. Then that racist Obama showed his true colors.

I feel that....my outrage was passing and would subside after the slain were laid in their final resting place....and I was feeling it...then that racist demon possessed President showed up. I feel......disbelief....shock.....horror...."you are fucking insane!" waves of emotions all over again. A third term of his policies can not be an option.
Bush went first, heard only 30 seconds, but that was enough. He talked about family, the community of family, the hurt like we lost one of our own members of our family, the pain.....back home stuff. Intimate stuff. Healing stuff.

Libs act like there is no past. The world began today. And today, Obama held up the picture of the future using every failed and destructive tried and utterly failed solution in the playbook. I wish I could think of words much stronger than unconscionable and diabolical to capture that which I am trying to convey.
All this in front of the Honored Fallen and their friends and family and loved ones. A funeral. Then the unhinged egoistical sociopath manic President walks in. Boy, he is getting worse and acting like he is on some street drugs or something. No control. A true sociopath unable to see or feel others' sorrow and no regrets. I also feel sad.

[Jon Dozer]

Yes, you are sad Mr. T. You should heed the words of wise Bonnie McGuire, for whom I have gained immense respect. She's a rare person- a consistent, authentic Christian, with views untarnished by the dictates of her political leanings.

Mr. T, your 9:17 screed was perfectly crafted in the manner of a typical Duped Drumpster. In fact, millions thought the President's speech was well composed, compassionate, and a very good start for healing the divides we face. Yes, progressive tend to look to the future, where we learn from mistakes, and always raise the level of love and compassion, justice and equality. The past should be remembered and celebrated on a family level, an intimate level. The families, the survivors need to grieve, for a long time. The happiness, laughter and sadness of nostalgia is a great healer. But progress calls on larger levels, in our policies and priorities, in making America a better place. Its always a work in progress. Progress. Yes, its a necessity.

[Don Bessee]

Thanks to the 'jon' for another end of the day laugh! ;-)

[Bill Tozer]

Lol. All liberal policies disregard the past, trash everything, and begin like this is the first day of creation. Dozer, the end of Obama's speech was where he finally got around to the fallen after opening with jokes. Jokes that were used to open his act. He is a racist and thrives on the politics of grievance. He is the biggest divider in my lifetime. He peddles grievances. I thought he was going to go full black panther on us......Obama mentioned himself 45 Times in the speech, twice in his opening line. It was all about him.
You judge yourself, Cunette Lips, and Obama by their/your intentions. The rest of the world judges you by your actions.

Hey, even Bush haters are tweeting W's quotes from today. It's wasn't about Bush, imagine that.
Minimize your own glaring deformities and exaggerate the mole on my butt.
Good night, Mr. Dozer. Your President is a diobolical racist lacking any empathy or compassion outside his own little hurts and boo-boos. If he can't get anything from you, he moves on. A true sociopath. Bet he his feeling great about himself tonight and the applause he took back ringing in his ears. Pathetic.

http://www.popsugar.com/news/George-W-Bush-Speaks-Dallas-Police-Memorial-41942706

[Bill Tozer]

X
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/674892439327648/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/875634549237250/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/ThePatriotFederation/photos/a.1770714796480375.1073741836.1438198179732040/1776878009197387/?type=3&theater

[fish]

Posted by: Don Bessee | 12 July 2016 at 10:43 PM

Shhhhhhhhh.....he's reading from the promotional literature.

[fish]

jeffpelline says:

July 12, 2016 at 10:23 pm

“Jon Smith,” I notice you continue to pollinate the blogs with your anonymous negative comments long after Reinette has apologized. When are you going to help de-escalate this issue? We don’t even know who you are.

Interesting....the presence of "Jon Smith" who provides a mild counter to the consensus at jeffys is upsetting. "song kowbell" who reinforces his opinion is just fine.

[fish]

I stand corrected. Apparently "song kowbell"....pretentious affectation aside actually exists.

Carry on!

[Todd Juvinall]

Yes she does exist. When I was a Supe we had a hearing and she came down off the Ridge to be a part of it. I don't recall the issue. Anyway when she came to the mike she sang a song about birds and trees and critters. She came to other hearings for a while. Then I never heard she was still here until this week when she started attacking me on FB Vents. Nasty little dame.

[Bill Tozer]

Spent an hour last night reading Yelp after reading Neil Locke over at Pelline's Comedy Central.. Mr. Neil asked twice if anyone has seen what they are saying on Yelp.

First, nobody should be saying nasty things about RS's business unless they have eaten there! That would be "bearing false witness." It's one thing to express one's opinion, it's quite another to lie about Los Mineros's food and service. That is something usually reserved for the lefties MO. I have never eaten there, so I cannot/will not touch Yelp and lie by submitting a review, no matter how I feel. That is not being honest.

Principles before Personalities, unlike Hillary who has no principles.

Now, with that said, come on...do you really think you can catch gonorrhea by using the bathroom there. Our your server had scabbies, and the cockroarches are overrunning the place, or there was pubic hair in your entree and a rat found in your burrito. And, like how many people really did have to go to ER after eating there, or how many people really did come down food poisoning. That is not funny and vile.

Look, I feel....that RS should not be anywhere close to weilding power after she her statements and after trashing/ignoring the long held City law/ordinance that all city approved events on the streets should be free of charge. She was aware of that law and then pushed through the Love Food Event Dinner that charged for seating on the City streets....above the law for sure. But it gave us a nice pic of some blogger's back side and the U Haul used to transport him there. Bottom line....kick her off the Nevada City council. Probably an unpaid position anyway, but lay off her eatery. Make the punishment fit the crime, IMHO.
With all that said, I did like this review found in the trash pile:

'I recognize how insane this will sound, but Roseville Kaiser has better Mexican food than Los Mineros. Avoid this place at all costs.
Also, I have some problems with any ethnic food place that has an white staff. Cultural appropriation much? I think the owner should look into diversifying her staff. No Mexican place should be lilly white. We are a multi-ethnic family, so we are super sensitive about diversity."

Ah, the ole diversity for diversity's sake.

[Todd Juvinall]

People are actually attacking her restaurant? Well, I guess that happens. I don't condone that at all. I went through that in 1993. The left came after me for proposing affordable housing project in the Glenbrook basin. They decided I did not even belong in the County and did their best to destroy my business. So, I dn't like that. I suggest people stop that and concentrate on her Council membership oily.

Those after me then were Peter Van Zant, LaurieO, JimW and the whole RQC as well as FONA.

[Bill Tozer]

So, Todd, it wasn't you who got gonorrhea by using the bathroom? You expect us to believe that? :)

[George Rebane]

This commentary also appeared in the op-ed pages of today's Union.

[Bill Tozer]

9:45--Dr. Rebane.
I agree, and am relieved you do not subscripe to the "What happens in Nevada City stays in Nevada City..or else" song and dance. Free speech is free speech regardless of race, color, ethnicity, religion. Well, maybe not if you subscripe to the far left extremist view of free speech, then that's a whole other story. We on the right, i. e., , the bad guys worse than Islamic terrorists (who do not really exist) and David Duke combined, have risen about the tyranny of the enlightened side's interpretation of free speech.

Hang in there RS. "This too shall pass".

Disclaimer: The last sentence has nothing to do with any restaurant anywhere..

[Bill Tozer]

&
https://www.levintv.com/videos/race-relations-under-obama-have-worsened

[Bill Tozer]

You could see this one coming a mile away.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/07/13/student-activists-want-to-teach-not-learn/

[Don Bessee]

I just got a screen shot of a post on the dark lords liberal lament land. Is claims to be a reprint from Senum. Sounds like it may be. It asks for support, mentions the LE protest and said that FOX and CNN etc. will be there.

It ends with a request for emails to be sent with comments on her situation to [email protected]

[Todd Juvinall]

Some one sent me a copy of her plea for support tonight. Good luck!

Here's Senum's email bast seeking support for tonight.

“Hello Friends,

I am sending out this letter for those who are interested and coming to speak at special city council meeting being held TONIGHT, 6:30PM at Nevada City City Hall. There will be a resolution passed in support of the local Nevada City and in support of the Dallas police…. this is in response to a Facebook post I made last Friday.

As you can imagine, at this point in time the city expects this to be a public lynching of me…. I will address the crowd in the beginning, but any support you can muster please show up at 6:30pm to voice your support! Also, do know that Hot Summers Nights so parking and getting to city will be a bit challenging.

We are expecting approximately 100 law enforcement and their wives to attend…. There will also be lots of press including CNN, Fox, you name it.
My objective it to apologize to those offended and to find a positive recourse and solution. I would love a hand in this!
Please attend and/or send many people to join.

If you can’t attend, you can send an email to city manager, Mark Prestwich and to have forwarded to the city council members for tonight:

[email protected]

In deep gratitude.
Reinette”

[Todd Juvinall]

Sorry to say but reading your addendum must give you pause about her true intentions. Any right thinking freedom loving person knows what she means. She is coming after some people and going to use her "power" to destroy them.

[Russ Steele]

ATTENTION:

Ch 13 will cover the City Council Meeting LIVE TONIGHT according to a teaser.

[Russ Steele]

ATTENTION:

Ch 13 will cover the City Council Meeting LIVE TONIGHT according to a teaser.

[Bill Tozer]

Hell hath no fury as a woman scorned.

[Bill Tozer]

Is somebody feeling the first nips of the wringer? Getting a wee bit warm in the frying pan?
Standing back and reading the comments on numerous news feeds concerning this unwanted and unsolicited delicate matter, a couple stood out. They were from unknown business owners in beautiful downtown Nevada City. The two businesses owners said in essence, "hey, boycott her business all you want, but please don't boycot Nevada City and hurt my business and my employees and their livihoods. Boycot her, not us!, please, please, please."
Money talks and bully pucky walks. The other business owners will throw her under the bus in a New York minute to save their own skins. Sunshine Patriots, the lot of them.

It will all end with a big group hug and everybody will leave as good friends. I love happy endings!! All this depends on how much crow she is willing to eat and how much of her soul she is willing to sell, just like Bernie.
Hang in there, RS. Don't give an inch, do not resign. Fight the good fight and punch back hard. Do not sell your soul to the devil. Don't let those nasty right wingers win. No surrendering to evil! You spoke the truth!!! Screw everybody else. You are right, it's all those other members of the marching band that are out of step. March to the sound of your own drummer. I am woman, hear me roar and all that stuff. Punch back hard!
Do Not Resign. Even Dr. Rebane says DO NOT RESIGN! Take it to them, RS. Stand your ground!
Unfortunately, all that mass media hysteria and media outlets will not be around to record or wildly broadcast your group hug and Mea Culpa. They do that kind of thing. It's so unfair leaving you asking, "Where do I go to get my reputation back?"
Hold your ground!! Cede nothing!!!

[George Rebane]

RussS 518pm - Many thanks Russ for that heads up.

[jon smith]

Over at the Union poll, 57% are asking that Reinette resign and only 40% are saying she should stay. From the way she is blasting the town via FaceBook, emails and texts she is FAR more organized than any opposition. Even at that, she is being swamped by those requesting that she go back to selling her taco and don't include us in her grand vision of making Nevada City one giant cell phone free zone (except for the homeless who should all get tax payer supplied iPhones) where the cops have to raise their hands before going to the bathroom.

[Bill Tozer]

Todd @ 4:51 pm
Good report, sir
Fox News? Nay, she ain't that important. Maybe a CNN affiliate, but not FNN. She just ain't worth their time. They did not become number one by joining the ambulance chasers.

[George Rebane]

No joy on live TV or radio coverage. But Yubanet is doing a rolling online post on the NC council meeting.
http://yubanet.com/m/nevada-city-special-meeting-live-coverage/

[xxxxxxxx]

re:No joy on live TV or radio coverage.

http://www.nevadacityca.gov/pview.aspx?id=20797&catid=563

[Todd Juvinall]

Channel 17 on comcast.

[Don Bessee]

Great showing by LE and their families and kids at Senums 'public lynching' (her words). Lots of PO'd NCPD and other County LE as well as Fire and first responder supporters. Interesting watching the street fair people kind of staring at the LE types lined up for the meeting. At one point there was a rumor that they were moving to the miners foundry but it was just a rumor. Lots of well known faces like former GVPD Chief Foster, the Mecklers and so on.

[Jon Dozer]

Wow, the Mecklers! OMG, you don't say? Just like Tim Tebow speaking at the Drumpf convention :) Real A-Listers ha? LOL.

[Don Bessee]

The 'jon' might want to see what the Mayor said tonight and the talk of recalls and censure. Even the Dem operative Joey Jordan hammered Senum again tonight.
It was a wide and deep list of demands for her to go representing the full political spectrum.
Senum said something interesting on the way out, I am staying on as of tonight.
She is the lead story on CH40 and 13 at 10. 11 pm too?
Mayor said, I am ashamed of the comments she made, she does not speak for me or anyone on the council, I want her to continue her work as an advocate for the community but if the community want is for you to resign, I wish you would seriously consider that.

[Todd Juvinall]

All those wives of cops were very compelling. But as I suspected she did what GeorgeR urged her to do. Anyway, ironic that she would allow her name to be on the Resolution. I wonder if the Dallas PD will accept it. Joe Griggs of Robinson Timber said it well.

[Jon Dozer]

I'm still in awe about the Mecklers! OMG, celebrity central tonight at the circus.