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06 July 2016


Bill Tozer



Jon Dozer

The American people won't put up with another GOP-led witchunt between now and November, wasting millions more of our taxpayer dollars.
Try as you may, Drumpf has zero chance at the Presidency. 67% disapproval. Ain't happening boys.

You guys never, ever learn...)

George Rebane

JonD 907pm - I don't think the American people, who don't speak with one voice, had anything to do with proving that Hillary lied, and that our justice system is rigged and tiered. FBI Director Comey can be credited with all those revelations.

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Say - here's an interesting article.
You lefties shouldn't read this as it will maybe cause you to think.
That could hurt your brain.
Just the usual selling favors for money from the left's fav gal.
Also, it's a lot longer than your attention span and there are a lot of big words.
Trump, Trump, Trump.

Bill Tozer

FBI Director at least made it clear as day in his concluding remarks. Hillary will not be charged, but if any of you yahoos out there think you can pull the same capers and shenanigans, well....the consequences will be different. Read: we will give Hildabeast a pass, but not necessarily anybody else hatching the exact same plan. Thus his warning, which we all heard loud and clear.
"Yes Masta, we be good, we be good and we no do what that white lady did. Yes Masta, yes Masta."


.......wasting millions more of our taxpayer dollars.

You a nice boy.....take one elaborate African vacation paid for by the American tax payers out of petty cash!

Now he starts caring about tax dollars! Hah!


Look at the bright side... defense attorneys who specialize in security violations are already working on getting their client's sentences eased using Comey's statements and Hillary's cozy deal.


"Exactly. Intent and consciousness of guilt, right? Is that right?" Gowdy asked. "Consciousness of guilt and intent. In your old job you would prove intent as you just referenced by showing the jury evidence of a complex scheme that was designed for the very purpose of concealing the public record, and you would be arguing in addition to concealment the destruction that you and I just talked about, or certainly the failure to preserve. Would you argue all that under heading of content--intent. You would also be arguing the pervasiveness of the scheme, when it started, when it ended and number of emails, whether they were originally classified or up-classified, you would argue all of that under the heading of intent. You would also probably under common scheme or plan argue the burn bags of daily calendar entries or the missing daily calendar entries as a common scheme or plan to conceal. Two days ago, director, you said a reasonable person in her should have known a private email is no place to send and receive classified information. You're right."

"An average person does know not to do that. This is no average person," Gowdy said. "This is a former first lady, a former United States senator, and a former secretary of state that the president now contends is the most competent, qualified person to be president since Jefferson. He didn't say that in '08 but he says it now. She affirmatively rejected efforts to give her a state.gov account. She kept these private emails for almost two years and only turned them over to Congress because we found out she had a private email account."

He continued, "So you have a rogue email system set up before she took the oath of office. Thousands of what we now know to be classified emails, some of which were classified at the time. One of her more frequent email comrades was in fact hacked, and you don't know whether or not she was. And this scheme took place over a long period of time and resulted in the destruction of public records yet you say there is insufficient evidence of intent."

"You say careless but not intentionally. You and I both know intent is really difficult to prove," Gowdy continued. "Very rarely do defendants announce, 'On this date I intend to break this criminal code section. Just to put everyone on notice, I am going to break the law on this date.' It never happens that way. You have to do it with circumstantial evidence, or if you're Congress and you realize how difficult it is to prove specific intent, you will formulate a statute that allows for gross negligence."

Remarking that his time had expired, Gowdy said he still feared that there was no precedent for criminal prosecution for future cases similar to Clinton.

"And my real fear is this, this is what [Chairman Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah)] touched upon, this double tracked justice system rightly or wrong hey perceived this country, that if you are a private in the Army and you email yourself classified information, you will be kicked out but if you are Hillary Clinton and you seek a promotion to commander-in-chief, you will not be," Gowdy concluded. "So what I hope you can do today is help the average person, the reasonable person you made reference to, the reasonable person understand, why she appears to be treated differently than the rest of us would be."


Like I said in an earlier post....the FBI files that the Clintons poached in the nineties must have been loaded with blackmail material....and with the shelf life of a Hostess Twinkie because they are still working today.

Bonnie McGuire

And the ill conceived comedy of errors beat goes on....

Here's why Allen West is delighted about the FBI verdict regarding Hillary:
"Of course, the news cycle is completely dominated by FBI Director James Comey’s announcement yesterday recommending no criminal charges against Hillary Clinton. And my response is GREAT! I can’t thank Director Comey enough for coming to this decision." Read why below...


Next Step: Massive Voter Fraud.

The following comment by a reader gives some interesting background on the FBI Director James Comey:
"THE FIX IS REAL !!! 20 years ago James Comey as an attorney on the Senate Whitewater Investigation was looking into the conduct of President Bill Clinton and first lady Hillary Clinton.The investigation was to determine whether Bill Clinton used his political position as governor of Arkansas (in the 1980s) to push through an illegal loan to benefit Bill and Hillary's business partner in Whitewater. Several people involved in Whitewater went to jail, but no criminal prosecution was in the cards for Bill and Hillary. Remember James Comey was the Deputy Special Counsel for the Whitewater investigation....In Christopher Anderson's book, American Evita: Hillary Clinton's Rise to Power, Anderson gives details of the New Square offenders pardon by Bill Clinton (who had been convicted of bilking the government of $30 million dollars). Christopher Anderson relates that at Hillary's urging Bill gave clemency to 16 Puerto Rican terrorists who took the lives of 16 Americans and wounded many others.Anderson tell us that Hillary admired the Marxist Carl Oglesby and Saul Alinsky. It is from her admiration for Saul Alinsky that she formed her belief that "the only way to make a real difference is to acquire power." The pardon of billionaire Marc Rich (who traded illegally with America's enemies including Iran) by President Bill Clinton was something that everyone knew reeked of impropriety after learning that Rich's wife donated $450,000 to the Clinton Library. Again James Comey oversaw investigations of the pardon matters as well. Unbelievably James Comey did not recommend charging the Clinton in any of these matters. Wouldn't it be fair and balanced to give news coverage to these facts?"

Doesn't all the drama remind ya of The Godfather?

Bill Tozer

Well, this wasn't the first time the Affluenza Defense worked like a charm.

All this time my ilk and I held on to the fact that the FBI was the last vertiage of trust in our government. They have integrity, I thought. The agents yes! The Government, our government, not so much. Sad day. Gives me no joy to see this nation's trust in our Great Father in Washington erode even further. Polls across the political spectrum showed the trust factor in Big Bro was already getting close to scrapping bottom....except for a group in Arlington, VA that call themselves federal employees. Go figure.



This one really saddens the cockels of me weary heart. I always liked Dr. Evil, but I ain't laughing now. No joy in Mudville tonight.



From the always valuable "Instapundit".


Shot: FBI and other federal agents must now tape interviews with suspects. Atty. Gen. Eric H. Holder Jr. said: “Creating an electronic record will ensure that we have an objective account of key investigations and interactions with people who are held in federal custody.”

—The L.A. Times, May 22, 2014.

Chaser: Comey: Hillary’s FBI Testimony Wasn’t Under Oath Or Recorded, But It Would Still Be a Crime To Lie.

—Breitbart.com, today.

As Sean Davis of the Federalist asks, “I would very much like to know which political appointee in the FBI ordered agents to not record or transcribe their Hillary interview.”

Hangover: “Congress To Ask FBI To Investigate Hillary For Lying Under Oath.”

—The Daily Caller today.

Well, they can ask…


Don Bessee

With the FBI Director refusing to talk about the Clinton foundation an article written by a retired FBI assistant Director seems to have seen this coming.
He said the email issue was not going to trip her up it was the corruption investigation with the pay for play while Sec State. He cited payments from players and odd decisions by state. To his mind the deal that changed policy and sold uranium deposits to a kremlin friend of vlad and the dates of donations was one of the smoking guns.
In an interesting coincidence there was only one mention of that deal in madam liar liar pantsuits on fire's turned over emails. One, but lots of phone calls and chatter about its unusual nature in the State Dept.

Bill Tozer

This guy Will Hurd from Texax is no Trump supporter, but beyond politics and all that stuff, I agreed with him today. Patriots put the truth ahead of political expediency. As Pontius Pilate said, "What is truth?" then washed his hands of the whole matter.

"Politically expedient means something you do to advance yourself politically. Use expedient when you want to hint that a particular solution or strategy has certain benefits and advantages but is not completely fair."


Bill Tozer

Mr. Don @ 2:33pm. Yep, the fix was in before Corney's accouncement Tuesday. No recording of the FBI "interview" with Hildabeast. No records, no transcripts, no nothing. So, as far as we know they chatted about golf and Hillary's grandkids. Footnote: Lynch has no grandchildren, but I digress.
Did the FBI director even interview the "6 or 7" agents that questioned Hillary? No
Was Hildabeast put under oath? No.
Was the FBI Director present? No.
So, no transcrpts, no under oath, no asking his agents what went on before his announcement.
Was it not her job as top dog as Secretary of State of the USA to insure that all security procedures were followed in her department of thousands? Yes,
Does it matter? No

Weaker cases than this have been sent to a jury everyday of the week....far weaker. Too bad the jury will never get to hear this case.

To get to your point, Mr. Bessee, this is how I see this whole stink to high heaven mess. Not about State secrets really, nor National Security. That was just colleratal damage, but not the motive or target.
Hildabeast set up the private server to keep her correspondence with the Foundation off the books. Shielded from FOIA, so she could wheel and deal through the Foundation and do the public corruption thang and nobody would ever find out. Darn NYT and Benghazi Committe opened that secret server can of worms. It's the whole ball of wax, IMHO.

Sidebar: For months I have kept this filed under my hat, waiting for the right time to use it. Now it don't matter so here goes.. That tidbit occurred to me on day one, i.e., the irony that a young Hillary Rodman Clinton worked for a Watergate Committee, which as a direct by-product of those investigations resulted in the creation FOIA.

Final thought: it's not the FBI. It's the Justice Department. Comey knew he could never get a prosecution because of the rules set up by this Justice Department. Forget the FBI, keep your eye on the Mother Ship, aka, Obama's Justice Department, the most politicized Justice Department since.....Richard Milhouse Nixon. Chao...too hip, gotta go. :)

George Rebane

A rogue conspiracy theory thread started under 'Compliant Comey ...'. My response there to PaulE is cross-posted here.

PaulE 231pm - Conspiracy theories are not disqualified on the basis of their being "neat and tidy", it takes a bit more. And yes, the presented conspiracy theory definitely states that Comey and Lynch both were in the tank with Obama and Hillary for pro quid quo yet to be seen. Comey's reputation is now dead with most of the country, and on life support with the remaining hardened leftwingers who have to keep up a good front for Hillary.

Occam's Razor has served well in many other endeavors than just science, and it is doubly applicable in the present case for which many more convoluted conspiracy theories can be concocted.

Given what has passed since the FBI recommendation and DoJ ruling, Comey's belief that "he did the right thing" is no longer a material factor in this discussion. He's a smart man who sold his soul, and hopes that the agreed on payoff will assuage all regrets.

Paul Emery

Re posted

So can anybody share with me the motive for what you allege is Hillary reason for breaking the law.

Todd Juvinall

Looks like the FUE is holding a in depth conversation with his own sock puppet, Dozer. You just cant make this stuff up.

Also he is complaining about past editor Jim Hemig's Porsche in his real estate business while the FUE owns numerous houses and sailboats and takes trips to Europe all the time. I mean is this fellow that nuts? Apparently so

Bill Tozer

Not nuts, just bored. He could come over here anytime solely to stir the pot....not nuts, just Momma's little shit disturber. When he arrives, poor sap will be laden with the Clinton collar and will be stuck defending her. Nay, he is busy right now trying to defend her after reading our POV's. He is looking for a real zinger as a rebuttal. Hope it's not the same "nothing to see here, Move On! .....and he always has that Trump criminality rumors to toss in the mix.....
Yo Lover Boy, not one single investigation into Trump has turned up dirt. Not one has legs. Keep digging. He has something Your Gal don't got and never will...I am certain it is a foreign concept to you....ah, I will leave ya hangering....it's the reason why you can't fget the sticky boneless brown to hit the oscillating device on Trump and conversly, it's the reason everytime turns over a rock even near Hillary, the stank is enough to gag a maggot. Hint: it's one of those internalities thangs.

Topic: Yo Paul. If your are still searching for a motive, I will spell it out in two words: The Clintons.

Russ Steele

No shit Bat Man??


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Bill Tozer

Justice died with Obama. Hillary now gets the baton. Like to know who told those FBI agents who interviewed Our Gal just this past Saturday not to put Hillary under oath. They worked on this for over a year with a hundred or more agents to suddenly drop the ball, fold their arms, and not even go for the perjury trap at a minimum? No transcripts of the interview even?
Nay, that is just the symptoms, not the disease.
Justice in America died awhile back, the day Barrack Huesin Obama was sworn into office. Glen Beck laid it all out for us back in the Van Jones days. I reckon it's a sad day for him as well.
It's not about Hillary being Hillary. She is just a lying crook. A well enriched lying crook I might as well add.. The day Justice died was when Obama started being Obama.
The Director may have been late to the party, but Lynch or any one of a slew of division heads in the DOJ sold their souls long ago. Comney just played the cards he was dealt.

Conspiracy at the highest level? I will only speculate that Obama finally paid off his debt to Hillary. That Clinton Machine has spent years digging up dirt on everybody....and I mean everybody. Recall the time when Biden was going jump in the race? The Clinton Campaign told Uncle Joe to beware, they got the goods on him and starting leaking dirt 4 days before Uncle Joe, Hillary and Obama had a nice short chat at the WH.
After the pleasantries, Uncle Joe came out to the Rose Garden with Obama's arm across Joe's shoulder and gave a good speech on what he stands for and what he proposes to fix America, and his vision. Then, suddenly in the speech he veered left and said he ain't running. Hmmm. Sounded just like Comney last Tuesday when he laid out the case, then veered left off the page. Hmm. Sounds like the same Obama speech writer to me.
I do wonder what dirt she laid on Obama the same time Uncle Joe got a peek into his Clinton Campaign file. Whatever is in there, Obama balanced the books and everyone from Shotgun Joe to all the big actors are reading from the same script. In unison to boot.

Bill Tozer

Biggest lie Tuesay, before Justice Died: Comney said "nobody knows what I am going to say"... WTF, everybody knew what he was going to say. Are you kidding me? Hillary was busy scheduling her post interview travel plans with Obama to campaign in North Carolina (a tight swing state) AND there was Hillary dangling the carrot in front of Lynch about staying on in her Administration before Combey opened his mouth.... Everybody knew what he was going to say...er....the Obama Aministration knew. " Nobody knows what I am about to say?" Righttttttttt.

Just for curiosity I would kinda like to know who gave the Director of the FBI the order to stand down, right when he had her by the short curlys. I will have about the same chance as finding out who as I will finding out who gave the stand down order when Ambassor Stevens was stil breathing or who hired that barroom bouncer with no qualifications that mysteriously ended up in the White House basement pouring over FBI files on Republicans when Bubba was running the show. Hmmm. Didn't Hillary have an office or something down there as well?
Who am I kidding. If we can't find out even who hired the guy (White House Legal Department with no known name if I recall), then it's a waste of time chasing down who gave the stand down orders....which never happened......rightttttt.

Bill Tozer

Those Clinton's really know how to thread a needle. Concerning the aftermath of the Benghazi Report, the Clinton campaign repeatedly went out of their way to say she never interfered with the military...think they said repeatedly "did not block" the military from double timing it to save 4 American citizens.
Leon Pedatta said he was waiting for approval from State. The approval never came. So, Hildabeast did not overtly block the Pentagon is true....she just called Chelsea and then retired for the evening. No green light.. Trump would have been up all night burning up the phones by himself if necessary (ok, maybe a loyal aide) till 5 in the morning, but I digress.
Another day passes, another coffin nail in our nation of laws and truth, justice, and the American way.

George Rebane

PaulE 350pm - You didn't pay attention Paul. Comey already revealed the motive to Congress and the nation - Hillary wanted to control and hide her work related emails so as not to leave a paper trail for FOIA discovery. This itself was an illegal act which the FBI did not consider, but Congress will as it asks (and this is funny) the FBI to open another investigation into her hiding her emails and then lying about it - 'This was an email account used for personal and not work related communications.'

Paul Emery

I get it. You mean like Carl Rove did when he was part of the the Bush Administration. Do you have a recollection if Carl Rove was charged with similar charges you recommended be applied to Hillary Clinton.

"The emails had been run through private accounts controlled by the Republican National Committee and were only supposed to be used for dealing with non-administration political campaign work to avoid violating ethics laws. Yet congressional investigators already had evidence private emails had been used for government business, including to discuss the firing of one of the U.S. attorneys. The RNC accounts were used by 22 White House staffers, including then-Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove, who reportedly used his RNC email for 95 percent of his communications.

As the Washington Post reported, “Under federal law, the White House is required to maintain records, including e-mails, involving presidential decision- making and deliberations.” But suddenly millions of the private RNC emails had gone missing; emails that were seen as potentially crucial evidence by Congressional investigators.

The White House email story broke on a Wednesday. Yet on that Sunday’s Meet The Press, Face The Nation, and Fox News Sunday, the topic of millions of missing White House emails did not come up. At all. (The story did get covered on ABC’s This Week.)"


Don Bessee

God Bless the families and cops in Dallas. RIP

Jon Dozer

And God bless the families of the innocent black motorists and pedestrians killed by racist cops for no reason other than race.

Jerry Brown predicted these conditions and events many years ago when he was on a national stage.


Posted by: Paul Emery | 07 July 2016 at 09:38 PM

So what was done (allegedly) by Rove is likely criminal in your opinion. What a surprise.....I am in complete agreement.

Lets have the trials in adjacent courtrooms.

Todd Juvinall

The black killer said he wanted to kill white policeman and people. Way to go "jon". What a putz.

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fish at 7:15 - Ha! First of all, Rove wasn't running a money laundering scheme selling out America's interests for millions through a phoney 'charity' scam. He wasn't Funnelling classified info through an unsecured server so our enemies could scoop up data on undercover assets putting lives in danger.
Sure - Paul wants a trial for Rove but then he'll decide Hillary is 'old news' and go on to the next Bush Derangement deflection.
It only works one way with lefties like Paul.
We can have plenty of trials - I'm all for it. The problem is, it'll mostly be Dems and lefties - and we can't have that!

Todd Juvinall

Rove was a success, two Presidential elections for a Republican. Paul has a problem with that. Anyway he is all in for the Washington power elite as he supports a career politician. After listening to his complaining about them all these years I would have thought he's be a Trumpster. Oh well, BS as usual.

Barry Pruett

Warning...not politically correct and I could care less. Let's just call the shootings of white officers in Dallas what it really is. Garden. Variety. Racism.

Todd Juvinall

Ironically the police were protecting the black lives matter rally.

jon smith

Rove was a laughing stock. Only Todd would call him a success. Last time we heard from Rove he was telling FOX news that Obama was losing by a landslide. 16 minutes later Obama was officially declared the winner.


Posted by: Scott Obermuller | 08 July 2016 at 08:01 AM

We can have plenty of trials - I'm all for it. The problem is, it'll mostly be Dems and lefties - and we can't have that!

Au contraire......we can have that! If Rove was involved in the same type (perhaps not the same degree as the presumptive democratic nominee) of e-mail/server shenanigans and we haven't passed any statue of limitations I call upon the Justice Department to charge and try Karl Rove.

I do find it interesting that Paul struggles to see motive where Ms. Clinton is involved but sees it just fine when it's somebody associated with the Bush administration.


While I find it disturbing that Dallas PD sent in a robot with a bomb to kill one of the shooters holed up somewhere, but the dear departed did apparently tell them he hated white people and wanted to kill cops.

Historically, when something bad involving the police happened, the President will call for calm and trust in the process to determine the truth and the legal system to mete out justice. In Ferguson, in contrast, rumors were allowed to swirl about and fester, with the Feds swooping in with an assumed guilt of the cop. This led to fabrications like "hands up, don't shoot" to take hold in what passes for public knowledge to the point where even the Dallas Black Lives Matter demonstrators chanting it, taunting the police. People ignored the fact that even Obama's Holder had to conclude the shooting was justified.

Now we have two more recent police shootings that, on their face, smell very badly, but we need calm and a trust in the process. We also need BLM to change so that a Dallas never happens again. Most killers of black men are other black men, and BLM needs to take that inconvenient truth seriously.

Or we can have more blood in the streets. Most of us don't want that.


"Last time we heard from Rove he was telling FOX news that Obama was losing by a landslide."
-jon smith

To get it so wrong really does take a professional journalist. Jeff, it is you, isn't it?

This Rove episode retelling has been stretched beyond all recognition... during election night almost 4 years ago, FOX called a particular state for Obama, Rove (who was working the FOX election coverage) thought there hadn't been enough precincts reporting to make the call yet. That's it. There was no delusion that Romney was winning, by even one vote, let alone a landslide. Just that the call was premature. The anchor made a show of walking to the dungeon where the statisticians were examining the entrails of their chickens and they walked through their reasoning for the call.

What Rove had said was reasonable, but probably wrong. The statisticians did a reasonable job of justifying their early call.

Jeff, you need to control yourself.

Bill Tozer

What a golden opportunity for Obama to blame guns. Opps, he already has this morning. I was listening to Coast to Coast last night that featured a call in reporter stuck on the scene in Dallas (they closed off the entire area) who said the BLM protest was peaceful, with the demostraters even taking pictures of themselves with the police. All was going well....until shots rang out.
Wait and see for a few days to see what happened in Louisanna and Minnesota. Let the facts come out as there is always two sides of the story...always. The Minnesota passenger said it was a "Chinese" cop. Who knows at this early stage, but it does not look good on its face.....wait and see or else we will end up with another Fergerson. Thanks DOJ Holder for fanning the flames and keeping that one going....and Baltimore...and....

We cannot proceed until we engage the engine of cross examination. It's the American Way and it is who we are.


jon smith

Why do you find it disturbing that the assassin was killed with a bomb? Dead is dead and the sooner the better. Would you rather he was killed in hand to hand combat to make it more fair?

George Rebane

PaulE 938pm - I'm not sure you do get it. While not recently updating myself on the Rove dust-up, I do recall that 1) he did not set up multiple unsecure servers but used a commercial account, 2) he neither generated nor retransmitted classified emails, 3) the US attorney hiring and firing was a political matter and not one for cause. Presidents have hired and fired hundreds of US attorneys who serve at their pleasure.

A more cogent criticism you missed would have been to propose that dual positions - government and private - cannot be held by anyone serving in a full time government position (which Rove did as W's campaign manager and chief of staff). That I would support.

George Rebane

Administrivia - Some of the above comments are going off topic and should be in the sandbox since there is yet no post on the Dallas sniper attacks. The old sandbox is nowhere near its usual capacity, however, much has happened in the interval and currency is important. Therefore a prematurely pristine sandbox has been opened to respond to your wide-ranging interests and opinions.

jon smith

Speaking of loons-



"jon smith" 9:29

Hand grenades are a military grade weapon that civilian police departments have not embraced in the past, and there is really no difference between something akin to a hand grenade delivered by a robot on the ground and a grenade delivered by a flying drone. Or a missile fired from a drone.

The shooter was going nowhere... the police could have waited him out rather than having a grenade delivered by remote control.

Bill Tozer

Dr. Rebane: May I suggest that Paul wants us to feel the same outrage over Karl Rove as we have expressed of the Hillary Skate. We cannot proceed until we rehash the Bush years once again. To be more precise, Paul demands we feel the same outrage he felt and continues to feel up to this very day.
Oh yeah, Scotter Libby got caught in the ole Martha Steward perjury trap. Everybody knows that it was that reporter Novak that outed the woman who held a CIA desk job filing paperwork.....but I digress.

Hey, Lincoln did it too and George Washibgton never chopped down a cherry tree. Liars, the whole lot of them!

As far as I know, Rove was never Secretary of State while having his Rove for President campaign machine fully operating in the wings over at some non-profit. Nor was Rove the Republican nominee running for President of The Untided States of Ametica.
Take heart, Paul. We Trumpsters are cleaning up our side of street as well as removing the garage piles from across the aisle that is blocking the sidewalk. We been smoking out a bunch of sewer rats in the process. But, hey, we can't get them all. There are just too darn many of them. Progress, not perfection, in this imperfect world.

Oh Paul, if only you could feel as I do. No worries, I don't request or demand you to. That would be an unreasonable request and a ludicrous demand. Can't argue with feeling. If the little lady says "I feel apprehension about blah, blah, blah...", only a fool would say she shouldn't feel that way or tell her her feelings are wrong. I get it.

Bottom line, I am still in stark raving grief over the Death of Justice. I feel your pain, but maybe not the pain you feel for other dark chapters in this long book.

George Rebane

I draw your kind attention to this post's 8jul16 update, and again to the fresh 8jul16 sandbox.


Here's one of the death by a thousand cuts of justice in the US:

On January 5, 1996, a new development thrust the travel office matter again to the forefront. A two-year-old memo from White House director of administration David Watkins surfaced that identified First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton as the motivating force behind the firings, with the additional involvement of Vince Foster and Harry Thomason.[39] "Foster regularly informed me that the First Lady was concerned and desired action. The action desired was the firing of the Travel Office staff."[40] Written in fall 1993, apparently intended for McLarty, the Watkins memo also said "we both know that there would be hell to pay" if "we failed to take swift and decisive action in conformity with the First Lady's wishes."[39] This memo contradicted the First Lady's previous statements in the GAO investigation, that she had played no role in the firings and had not consulted with Thomason beforehand; the White House also found it difficult to explain why the memo was so late in surfacing when all the previous investigations had requested all relevant materials.


The more things change, tbe more things don't. She's been getting away with baldfaced lies for years.

jon smith

Gregory 9:44-
"Hand grenades are a military grade weapon that civilian police departments have not embraced in the past"

[Have started removing off topic comments. As I mentioned above - see my 941am - these belong in the sandbox. gjr]

Bill Tozer

Justice may still have a couple of last gasps left in her afterall.


Bill Tozer




Bill Tozer

Something all of can agree on.


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