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23 November 2016

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Russ

Student’s Reaction to Trump Win: ‘Suck It Up, Pussies.’ Police Are Investigating This posted note as a Hate Crime.

At Edgewood College, police are investigating a post-it-note that was deemed a “hate crime” by college officials.

The post-it-note says “Suck it up, pussies!” Whoever wrote it also drew a winking, tongue-out smiley face, like this: ;P

It is the college administration who are the real problem, they have caved in to this cesspool of snowflakes in Universities across the nation. We are in real trouble folks, these snowflakes crying about Trump's elections are potential future leaders.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

Not bad interviews with Tim Pool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZonp4FGmtk (at 13:22)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDqkbvHe_Bg (at 12:45)

Todd Juvinall

Michigan was finally called for Trump. Electoral College now reads, Trump 306, Clinton 232. Go ahead and recount you sore losers. Now we have Frisch calling Trump and his supporters all those names we have come to love. Maybe Trump and the IRS will come seeking information soon on that SBC money machine?

Bill Tozer

Bill Tozer
So where now? The understatement is we (US and Europe) are in transition. Guess we don't know the outcome of this transition nor how long any change will last. Maybe it is just a swinging pendulum. My crystal ball gets cloudier the deeper I peer into it. Short term is easy. Safest answer is I am we are in the waiting room and the jury is still out.

The Democrat Party is in upheaval trying to figure it out. I am pleased that they are still holding fast to their deep seated core belief that they have the winning message, just a messaging problem. That was the exact same conclusion they arrived at after losing legislative seats in 2012. Debbie and Obama left a bad track record for the Party of Upturned Noses. The Dems can stay the course (likely) or move further to the outer limits of the Left (more likely).

But where now? The Great Divide is not going anywhere. Certainly there are other issues, kitchen tables issues, that go beyond identity politics. Trump's victory leads one to conclude that voters overlooked identity politics and voted for issues more important to them individually. Again I say, more important issues.

The question that has not been answered in 2016 is what does it mean be an American. Certainly from my POV, without borders there cannot be an America as we know it. Oh, they will always be a country, but it won't be The United States of America. What does it mean to be an American? No, I am not talking about European immigrants and our founding fathers' ethnicity. More than self rule. Yes, part of being American is the "Protestant Work Ethic" for one. Belief in limited government is another, individual rights, freedoms, liberty, and duty is another.

I can't say where this is going until we reach a national consensus and we figure out what it means to be an American in our country. A newly sworned in citizen may have a better clue than academia.

Heard a review of the new movie Hacksaw Ridge. Haven't seen it. The commentator drifted off a bit and wondered out loud if we could ever amass such a large army of men and women nowadays to go fight when duty calls again....as was the case in the period of Hacksaw Ridge. Hmmm. I doubt it from my lense. Those guys and gals were not called the Greatest Generation for nothing. The commentator was not talking about war and warfare as such reviewing the movie, but without saying it out loud, he seemed to be wondering what kind of changes in our culture, our beliefs, and our concept of what it means to be an American today. At least that was what I read into it.

Ah, just rambling. Here is where we are at right now, in transition. What is happening in Europe is happening here. Looking at them and seeing us. So, now where?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/clintons-loss-is-one-more-nail-in-the-coffin-of-center-left-politics-in-the-west/2016/11/24/44229664-ab3d-11e6-8f19-21a1c65d2043_story.html

Bill Tozer
So where now? The understatement is we (US and Europe) are in transition. Guess we don't know the outcome of this transition nor how long any change will last. Maybe it is just a swinging pendulum. My crystal ball gets cloudier the deeper I peer into it. Short term is easy. Safest answer is I am we are in the waiting room and the jury is still out.

The Democrat Party is in upheaval trying to figure it out. I am pleased that they are still holding fast to their deep seated core belief that they have the winning message, just a messaging problem. That was the exact same conclusion they arrived at after losing legislative seats in 2012. Debbie and Obama left a bad track record for the Party of Upturned Noses. The Dems can stay the course (likely) or move further to the outer limits of the Left (more likely).

But where now? The Great Divide is not going anywhere. Certainly there are other issues, kitchen tables issues, that go beyond identity politics. Trump's victory leads one to conclude that voters overlooked identity politics and voted for issues more important to them individually. Again I say, more important issues.

The question that has not been answered in 2016 is what does it mean be an American. Certainly from my POV, without borders there cannot be an America as we know it. Oh, they will always be a country, but it won't be The United States of America. What does it mean to be an American? No, I am not talking about European immigrants and our founding fathers' ethnicity. More than self rule. Yes, part of being American is the "Protestant Work Ethic" for one. Belief in limited government is another, individual rights, freedoms, liberty, and duty is another.

I can't say where this is going until we reach a national consensus and we figure out what it means to be an American in our country. A newly sworned in citizen may have a better clue than academia.

Heard a review of the new movie Hacksaw Ridge. Haven't seen it. The commentator drifted off a bit and wondered out loud if we could ever amass such a large army of men and women nowadays to go fight when duty calls again....as was the case in the period of Hacksaw Ridge. Hmmm. I doubt it from my lense. Those guys and gals were not called the Greatest Generation for nothing. The commentator was not talking about war and warfare as such reviewing the movie, but without saying it out loud, he seemed to be wondering what kind of changes in our culture, our beliefs, and our concept of what it means to be an American today. At least that was what I read into it.

Ah, just rambling. Here is where we are at right now, in transition. What is happening in Europe is happening here. Looking at them and seeing us. So, now where?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/clintons-loss-is-one-more-nail-in-the-coffin-of-center-left-politics-in-the-west/2016/11/24/44229664-ab3d-11e6-8f19-21a1c65d2043_story.html

Bill Tozer

Opps,

Bill Tozer

Well, looks like we know where they are going. It's none of my business as long as they go to the dustbin of history.

https://patriotpost.us/posts/46101

fish

Looks old Fidel checked out today.......and a great cry was heard in the land of the socialista.

I'm sure that Nevada City mourns the loss of Cubas wealthiest citizen!

Todd Juvinall

Pelline will be attending the service along with Frisch. Fidel was their hero. Especially his chili cheese fries recipe. LOL!

Gregory

"Those guys and gals were not called the Greatest Generation for nothing."

That label was coined by NBC's Tom Brokaw to sell a lot of books to them. The US was attacked, and Americans of both my parents generation (to whom Brokaw sold a lot of books) and my grandparents generation volunteered. The "greatest generation" inherited a world where one modern industrial economy was left intact and greatly profited from the world, and upon retirement, from their children and grandchildren thanks to social Ponzi schemes and asset inflation.

I expect were a similar clear and present danger to exist now young Americans would react in much the same way and no, "climate change" is not a clear and present danger".

Yes, Fidel is dead, the news was just breaking when I was going to bed last night. I guess JFK's CIA operatives finally got through his defenses.

fish

Ah...the kudos for Fidel are starting to roll in......excellent!


"If this were a just world, 13 facts would be etched on Castro’s tombstone and highlighted in every obituary, as bullet points — a fitting metaphor for someone who used firing squads to murder thousands of his own people".

●He turned Cuba into a colony of the Soviet Union and nearly caused a nuclear holocaust.

●He sponsored terrorism wherever he could and allied himself with many of the worst dictators on earth.

●He was responsible for so many thousands of executions and disappearances in Cuba that a precise number is hard to reckon.

●He brooked no dissent and built concentration camps and prisons at an unprecedented rate, filling them to capacity, incarcerating a higher percentage of his own people than most other modern dictators, including Stalin.

●He condoned and encouraged torture and extrajudicial killings.

●He forced nearly 20 percent of his people into exile, and prompted thousands to meet their deaths at sea, unseen and uncounted, while fleeing from him in crude vessels.

●He claimed all property for himself and his henchmen, strangled food production and impoverished the vast majority of his people.

●He outlawed private enterprise and labor unions, wiped out Cuba’s large middle class and turned Cubans into slaves of the state.

●He persecuted gay people and tried to eradicate religion.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/farewell-to-cubas-brutal-big-brother/2016/11/26/d369affe-0eeb-11e6-bfa1-4efa856caf2a_story.html?utm_term=.30dbcfeee259

fish

Journalists Hail Achievements, 'George Washington,' 'Folk Hero'...


This level of ignorance should surprise no one......after all they're journalists!


http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/brent-baker/2016/11/26/journalists-hail-castros-achievements-george-washington-folk-hero

Todd Juvinall

Since the libs are trying all these recounts I say Trump should go after one in Minnesota. The margin is doable. And maybe some more close ones.

Walt

For freedom lovers, Christmas came early. Death of a dictator.
For some on the Left, a favorite role model has passed. Jerry Brown is still crying.

Bill Tozer

So where now? Should snowflakes even go to college?

NBC News reported that Fortune 500 companies spend about $3 billion annually to train employees in "basic English." Many of today's college students are not only academically incompetent but emotionally so, as well, and do not belong in college.

These college snowflakes and their professors see themselves as our betters and morally superior to ordinary people. George Orwell was absolutely right when he said, "There are notions so foolish that only an intellectual will believe them."

http://townhall.com/columnists/walterewilliams/2016/11/23/trump-and-college-chaos-n2248705

[email protected]:48 AM.... let's hope we will never know if we are capable of reenacting sending a million GIs to swamp foreign shores. Drones, precision weapons, and air superiority makes it a moot point anyway. But, I do wonder at times, albeit the human spirit indeed rises to the occasion. A true saying: "Heroes are just ordinary people in extradorinary times and circumstances."

Reported by Just Facts, in 2009, the Pentagon estimated that 65 percent of 17- to 24-year-olds in the U.S. were unqualified for military service because of weak educational skills, poor physical fitness, illegal drug usage, medical conditions or criminal records. In January 2014, the commander of the U.S. Army Recruiting Command estimated this figure at 77.5 percent, and in June 2014, the Department of Defense estimated this figure at 71 percent

https://www.creators.com/read/walter-williams/10/16/dumb-american-youth

Walt

OK, Crabman,,, you up yet? Nice toon in the local rag today.
http://www.theunion.com/opinion/r-l-crabb-it-takes-a-village-idiot-141/
I thin you missed a few facts in that. You now,, like the Indians setting fire to bridges, trucks, tractors, rock throwing, etc. Once again your Left leaning limp is showing.

Todd Juvinall

That is what libs do Walt. Bundy was attacked by the libs for protecting his rights as the libs defended the government.. Now the Indians are attacking people on private property and who went through the mandated process of permitting and the libs are all in for them. You cannot make this stuff up.

Todd Juvinall

Since Clinton conceded, would it matter if the results changed on the state they are cherry picking? Anyone know?

Bill Tozer

https://www.facebook.com/UncleSamsMisguidedChildren.Net/photos/a.169953786533962.1073741830.169676909894983/590041181191885/?type=3&theater

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

https://medium.com/@nntaleb/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577

George Rebane

To understand how leftward the lamestream has veered one need only read AP's coverage of Fidel's death. And all the leftwing blogs are quoting from that prominent tribute to a tyrant.

Walt

I'm waiting for the Nobel Peace Prize to be posthumously awarded to Castro.
Hell! They gave "O" one, for the presumed "peace" in the Middle East.. Now that worked out swell. Catro sure "kept the peace",,,, At gun point.

Todd Juvinall

The 100,000 estimated murder victims are turning over in their graves.

Todd Juvinall

And the SBC will give ol' Fidel a metal I am sure.

Bill Tozer

Come on guys, this is a day of sadness for many. We must mourn with those who mourn and rejoice with those who are celebrating Fidel's long overdue departure from Fantasy Island.

All in all, makes no difference to me. Never met the man. Besides, when I watch clips of Spanish TV shows, I am really mostly watching Cuban women from Miami doing the cha cha cha anyway. That won't change and Fidel's little bro is in charge. Did like the stories of Castro giving a four hour speech to the throngs assembled in the streets in the pouring rain. That was when he had more fire in his belly. Heard one speech was pushing 5 hours in the heat, lol. And if you joked about it, the men come at night and take you away. No thanks.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/956981784435859/?type=3&theater

Gary Smith

Todd at 10:45:
This may help answer your question. Here is a good story explaining the Presidential recount problem for Wisconsin from the Milwaukee newspaper. Some of these points are not being reported on by the national news, what a shock. It is pretty ugly for some of the issues that this article lays out. The biggest one IMO is that Jill Stein with her 1% of the vote total, could possibly disenfranchise the whole state. The Wisconsin electoral college could not get to vote if I read this right. I find that hard to believe. But when the electoral college votes I believe is what counts, even if someone concedes.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/11/25/recount-would-have-move-quickly/94417686/

Bill Tozer

So where now? Well, I know where O is heading. That Obama is a lucky fellow,I tell ya.

https://www.facebook.com/UncleSamsMisguidedChildren.Net/photos/a.169953786533962.1073741830.169676909894983/590269721169031/?type=3&theater

Finally after all these years. 2016 is The Year of the Reckoning.

https://www.facebook.com/UncleSamsMisguidedChildren.Net/photos/a.169953786533962.1073741830.169676909894983/590153671180636/?type=3&theater

Bill Tozer

Holy Smokes, they are dropping like flies. Must be an omen......or the Trump Effect.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/hugo-chavezs-envoy-us-dies-leaving-legacy-openness-43782027

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/802674859104935936

Walt

I was looking to get my Grandkid one of these.
http://www.chickorywoodproducts.com/category.php?c=5

Then the Mrs. points out this....
"We will no longer ship to California or New York State due to changes in the toy gun laws."

Commie bastards..

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

https://i.redd.it/je1h30jdv00y.jpg

fish

Posted by: ScenesFromTheApocalypse | 26 November 2016 at 07:06 PM


Fidel Castro dies. Justin Trudeau issues statement. Much hilarity ensues. #TrudeauEulogies


http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/fidel-castro-dies-justin-trudeau-issues-statement-much-hilarity-ensues-trudeaueulogies

Account Deleted

Putin praises Castro and Trump denounces him.
The American left is still trying to tie Trump to Putin.
Good luck, morons.

Russ

California is a Democratic Electoral Swamp

From the Investors Business Daily:

So far, Trump has won the popular vote in 29 states, to Clinton's 20 states. (As of this writing, Michigan is still up in the air, although Trump currently leads in the vote count.) In other words, Trump carried 45% more states than Clinton.

Since winning state elections is what counts in the United States when running for president, Trump clearly outperformed Clinton. (Trump has 25% more electoral votes than Clinton.)

What's more, Trump's margin of victory in the states he won was, on average, higher than Clinton's.

Of the state's Trump won, he got 56.2% of the vote, on average. Of the states Clinton won, she got only 53.5% of the vote.

The only reason that Clinton is beating Trump in the overall popular vote is that California gave Clinton a huge margin of victory — which currently stands at 61% to 33%.

If California voted at the same ratio as the other DNC controlled states, Trump would be ahead in the popular vote. We live in Democrat controlled electoral swamp.

Walt

LIBS,, who never saw a law or regulation they didn't like, (on top of the 2500 pages they have already graced us with) are out to give us even more before they are kicked to the curb.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2016/1127/Federal-agencies-push-midnight-rule-making-flurry-under-Obama

Bill Tozer

Walt, looks like they are racing to beat the 60 day deadline. Under 60 days, the regs can die on the vine, never see the light of day. Different story for some regs and rules that have been around longer than 60 days.
I think we may have a stalling tactic going on here. Get the recount to mess up the calendar, and give Obama more time to spread death and statism around. Who knows? The recount ain't going nowhere. Think MI does paper ballot only. Has to be a stall. Think this link got it half right, but maybe not the realend game. Those Democrat Socialists are something else. Looks like Stein has no problem with taking money in politics now, lol.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/11/the_democrats_real_strategy_in_launching_recounts.html

Long long way to go to get to #5
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/961369550663749/?type=3&theater

Russ

Fight back twice as hard

From the AP:

A senior Donald Trump adviser is calling Hillary Clinton's decision to join a recount effort "incredible" and noting that the president-elect has not ruled out pursuing a criminal investigation into his former Democratic rival.

Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway told CNN's "State of the Nation" that Trump has not ruled out a criminal probe into Clinton's use of a private email server as secretary of state, even though Trump recently indicated he'd rather not do so.

Conway said, "He's been incredibly gracious and magnanimous to Secretary Clinton at a time when, for whatever reason, her folks are saying they will join in a recount to try to somehow undo the 70-plus electoral votes that he beat her by."

She added, "The idea that we are going to drag this out now where the president-elect has been incredibly magnanimous to the Clintons and to the Obamas is pretty incredible."

Heh! They will soon learn not to screw with Trump!

Bob Branstrom

I'm sure you know this, but it doesn't hurt to remind Trump supporters that the people did NOT put Trump into office. The people voted, by a significant margin in presidential politics, for Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump will take office not because most people voted for him, but because of the Electoral College system we use.

The Electoral College has two features that make it undemocratic in my mind. The first is a bias towards small-population states, that provides voters in more rural states a significant advantage over large-population states. This gives California voters less voice in presidential elections. In addition, the winner-takes-all practice of most states disenfranchises those who voted against the state's popular state loser. In California, that means Trump supporters essentially lost any say in the presidential election. Clinton supporters in states Trump won likewise were disenfranchised.

So, because of a system that is designed to thwart popular majorities, Donald Trump will be the next POTUS, despite the fact that he received over two million votes less than Hillary Clinton. Let's not forget that fact. A little humility from conservatives over their good fortune would go a long ways toward healing some of the rancor of the election.

Don Bessee

Did you say that when slick willy was in the same boat?

Gregory

Since I've never been a conservative or a Conservative, nor did I vote for Trump, I'll be happy to counter you, Bob B.

The people indeed did choose Trump over Clinton a month ago. I was not disenfranchised... I had a vote and I chose to cast it for the Stoner, Gary Johnson, the same fellow I voted for four years ago to stop the Zombie Apocalypse, the best campaign ad of 2012... a bit low budget by GOP and DEM standards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgnyZdClTpM

I expect most UU have a similar T-shirt.

I've voted LIB most every four years since I realized the Libertarian Party was the only political party (I hate to call them organized) that kept the anti-Federalist Jeffersonian faith, and ever since have cast my votes mostly for LIBs since my first for Ed Clark and David Koch (yes, THAT David Koch) rather than hold my nose hard enough to vote for Carter a second time.

I wonder, were "Clean" Eugene McCarthy alive today, would he have voted for Clinton, Trump, Johnson or what's her name? I suspect it would have been Johnson.

Your candidate having little to no chance of winning is not disenfranchising, that's just losing. Happens every election day to lots of people. Get up and vote next election like everyone else who takes citizenship seriously.

Had Clinton actually received 50% plus one of the votes cast, she probably would have won the Electoral College tally, too. We have the indirect system for good reasons, and they are still good reasons. Not having the entire country in a recount frenzy every four years is perhaps the best reason, though all those little states with less than five Congressional districts have their own... not getting ignored every election being a big one.

To finish up, only in banana republics and other tyrannies is voting a requirement for citizens who don't want to go to jail or get shot. If someone doesn't want to bother voting because they are confident of the result without their vote, or don't really care, that's fine by me. It's a free country, and, I must say, I think it will be more free with Trump than with Clinton, if he follows his promises on who his SCOTUS pick(s) will be.

Losing the popular vote means nothing. Winning the Electoral College tally means you were selected by voters by the ONLY constitutional means for winning the Presidency on election day.

Don Bessee

Can we feel the love for the crime victims! Thank GOD we are able to again tell the truth about criminals, especially domestic violence families. Can we start giving more value to the victims? The judges and defense attorneys are on the march and again are going to screw your families. Its not 2001 anymore.

How often does a drug dealer sell stolen goods and also beat his kids, wife and animals? Too F*#&#(g often.

It is an insult to the people who have the same scum bags rip them off over and over because Nevada County already has a bull shit criminal friendly bail schedule.

Just because the criminals can pay so much more does not make them better than the victims or neighborhoods. Why don't the 1% who makes so much off the criminals care about us all?

fish

So where now.....?


Well here!


The democrats just don't "deck stack" with the electorate.....they also do it with civil service!


"After President Barack Obama exits office, at least 88 of his political appointees will likely remain working in the federal government under a Donald Trump administration, according to numbers from the Office of Personnel Management.

From Jan. 1, 2010, through Sept. 30, 2016, federal agencies selected 112 political appointees for career civil service jobs. Of those, the Office of Personnel Management approved 88 and rejected 24."


This both a way to reward the faithful and continue to monkywrench after President Bunny departs for the lecture circuit.

Bill Tozer

So where now? I never thought I would see this in my lifetime. It's about time.

http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/12/09/michigan-milo-protesters-face-two-years-jail/

Couple the above link with the Orange Coast Jr. College professor calling out Republican student(s) as being terrorists and being "among us". This is being played out on hundreds of campuses on a daily basis across the land.

Sure, we watched as paid agitators rioted and assualted Trump supporters in the immediate aftermath of the election. We watched in horror as windows were smashed and cop cars were set ablaze in our cities and places where college campuses are situated. And yes, we mocked and laughed as adults were given hot chocalate, coloring books, play dough, and cute puppies to cuddle to deal with the mental backdown of being given a participation trophy. We watched and waited for things to calm down. We watched the idiots blow off steam and let things calm down.

Enough is enough. It is time to enforce our laws. If our conservative students are no longer safe on campuses, then that is a violation of Title IX. The college professors have created a hostile environment for our law abiding students and have created a hostile work environment for conservative and libertarian professors and staff. This is a federal offense which must be addressed by the Justice Department.

Time for the liberal majority on campuses and in the blue enclaves to be held accountable for their bullying. The victim has become the victimizer. The ones who cry out for tolerance and justice the loudest are the ones who have proven to be the most intolerate and dispensers of injustice....by a long shot. No doubt, no argument. Lawlessness is incompatible with a nation ruled by laws, not men.

Time to use the laws of the land to ensure equal protections for all, not just for those belonging to the self proclaimed victim of the month club.

We know that the Left always do this when the lose. They break things, threaten, assault others, stomp their feet, throw their food, and pound their spoons on their high chairs. They have temper tantrums well into the night. It is what they do each and every time they don't get what they demand to be given to them without conditions or effort.
We conservatives have witnessed this our whole lives. And we are expected to watch and keep our mouths zipped, and are called out if we do not condone their adolescent spoiled brat behavior. Well, somebody had to be the adult in the room. Obviously neither the Snowflakes' professors or their civic leaders are capable of self control and extending dignity to others outside their group, their clic.

It's unfair, but somebody needs to put Johnny to bed without supper. Time to enforce laws and make America a safe place for all her citizens, not just the bedwetters. It's a thankless job but somebody has to do it. Charge them with hate crimes....the haters on campus, in the faculty lounges, and in the workplace.

fish

Seen elsewhere......


"Californians may be largely locked out of the Trump administration, but they are quickly forming the hub of what's being called the Resistance.... the intellectual headquarters of this surge in grassroots activism is the progressive Bay Area
...
"I've been signing petitions and donating money and calling congresspeople," said Lori Koon, a San Francisco hairdresser who is hosting a Trump resistance meeting Monday at the salon where she works. "And that's all good, but at this point, if I want to see the world shaped the way I want to, the little people like me are going to have to do it."

She is leading one of the more than 60 small groups organized by California's 1.3 million-member Courage Campaign that are designed to brainstorm resistance ideas.

This weekend, several hundred programmers are gathering at San Francisco tech company GitHub for a hackathon on how to "transform your dissatisfaction into a unique idea."


I imagine that this will cause a few of your neighbors hearts to to go pitter-patter as there is nothing more thrilling to a San Francisco (or one who has fled to the foothills) leftist than fancying him or herself as a partisan in an existential battle against the existing power structure whilst enjoying $8 lattes and dining at the cities best restaurants before a showing of "Rogue One" at the Metreon.

George Boardman

Fish, you're making me home sick

George Rebane

A current litmus test for identifying lamestream outlets is their (lack of) coverage of these incidents and issues. Symmetry (fair and balanced) is not their strong suit, it is their void.

fish

Posted by: George Boardman | 10 December 2016 at 09:02 AM


Careful with admissions like this George..... somebody will pen a furious missive about your inauthenticity as a "real" Than Franthiscan.

Bill Tozer

@7:47 AM

Once they are put into civil service, not even an act of Congress can get rid of them. I can see the headlines now: Trump is anti-union!!!! Trump hates civil servants! Trump is a danger to democracy!!
Obama is racing to place his people in as fliesin the ointment in the halls of government. Flies and spies. That is nothing new for previous Administrations......but the new twist is he has placed his political appointees in high positions who absolutely do not want to put America First, no way, no how. There goes my hopes and dreams of ridding government of members of the Muslim Brotherhood and the terrorist organization (as deemed by the State Department) Hamas. Looks like the fundamental transformation of America smells a deadline. Talk about pack and stack.
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Dr. Rebane @ 9:16 AM, touching on identifying lamestram outlets:
Since fake news was the current theme for Hillary's coming out party this week, here is my take submitted for your consideration:

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/972105782923459/?type=3&theater

Gregory

Bob Brandstrom's drive by is worth talking about some more...

I'm sure you know this, but it doesn't hurt to remind Trump supporters that the people did NOT put Trump into office. The people voted, by a significant margin in presidential politics, for Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump will take office not because most people voted for him, but because of the Electoral College system we use.

Trump voters, consider yourself lectured by a master at misusing words. "Most" voters didn't vote for Clinton, "most" voters voted for one of the other candidates.

Some who were registered didn't vote, either because they didn't like any of the candidates on the ballot, or they knew their candidate would win all of their state's electors anyway, or they knew their candidate didn't have a snowball's chance in Hell to win any electors. Some just had something better to do.


If this was a winner of a plurality take all election, the candidates would have waged a different campaign, a different set of citizens would have come to the polls, and some of them would have voted differently than they had (or would have) last month. Personally, I found Clinton more unacceptable than Trump and would have had to consider a lesser of two evils vote were my vote to be counted in one national pot.


The Electoral College has two features that make it undemocratic in my mind. The first is a bias towards small-population states, that provides voters in more rural states a significant advantage over large-population states.[snipped sentences that mistake losing with disenfrancising]

I'm sure Wyoming's three Electors has California's 55 quaking in their boots.

In the Senate, all states are equal, big or small. In the House, the large population states are represented in proportion to their relative populations. In order to bring the Sovereign states together in one united State, the election of a President over the executive branch that was a mix of the two was proposed and agreed to as a workable compromise.


So, because of a system that is designed to thwart popular majorities

Stop right there... it doesn't thwart popular majorities, it thwarts huge majorities in regional parties in populous states that do not enjoy broad support across the country, and it does appear the Democrats are now, in practice if not in fact, a regional, provincial party.


, Donald Trump will be the next POTUS, despite the fact that he received over two million votes less than Hillary Clinton. Let's not forget that fact. A little humility from conservatives over their good fortune would go a long ways toward healing some of the rancor of the election

Let's not forget the fact that 99 44/100% of brick and mortar journalists were in the tank for the Democratic Party in general, and the DNC was in the tank for the annointed one, Hillary Clinton, actively pulling strings to thwart a fair Democratic primary season. There's even Wikileaked emails that show the DNC were pushing their lickspittle journalists to give a push before the primarys even started to the GOP candidates Clinton wanted to run against... Trump, Cruz and Rubio. So, after an apparent corruption of the GOP primary and of the Democratic primary, Democrats want to cry foul that they couldn't win against the GOP ticket they wanted to run against.

Bob B, I suggest you get cracking for the Senate elections in 2018, as by an electoral fluke, 25 of the 48 seats being warmed by Democrats are up for election. Feinstein's seat is probably safe considering the one party state we have become, but if the new House, Senate and President do a half decent job in the next two years (stranger things have happened), the GOP could have a filibuster-proof Senate for Trump's last two years in what might not be his last term.

Elsewhere in the country, the GOP is also winning. Most of the governors, most of the state legislatures, most of the House, most of the Senate and, very soon, most (5-4) of the SCOTUS. Could become 6-3 within the next 4 years.

McConnell's blocking of Merrick Garland worked out pretty well, but it wasn't the first time something like that happened. His Accidency, John Tyler, so fell out of favor with his own party (the Whigs) in the Senate that they held up his nominees for nearly two years waiting for a new President to come into town. Yes, dear friends, there really is no requirement in the Senate for them to consider nominees, only that a nominee cannot be appointed to the court without the advice *and* consent of the Senate, nor is nine justices specified by the Constitution.

We live in interesting times.

Bill Tozer

Another electoral college lie was uttered by John Conyers this last week. My gawd, poor frail man took forever to read one sentence. And he read a whole page. He is ready for Wrinkle Village, but I digress.

Conyers said the electoral college was created so that the less populated Southern States could keep slavery. The whole thing was to give the slave states more clout. That's a fact. Look it up. All about slavery, nothing else.
Hmmmm. Someone forgot to tell John about to croak Conyers that Virginia was the most populous of the thirteen colonies. That's a fact, look it up.

Now, the line from Mr. Bob's post that made me feel shame:

" A little humility from conservatives over their good fortune would go a long ways toward healing some of the rancor of the election."

Agreed. You attract more shithouse flies with honey than with vinegar. And, of course, the healing responsibility is laid squarely on the shoulders of the adults in the room. It's a heavy load to bear. But, first, I need to reflect on my own broken thinker and do some deep soul searching and ask for knowledge and wisdom....and kindness for the healing to commence to begin.

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