Sandbox - 22dec16

[Dr Anna Haynes appears to have done a revamp of NC Voices.  It's humorous composition and structure viz Right and Left are stronger than ever - actually it admits to no leftwing content even though the site literally overflows with it under headings like 'General', 'Climate/H2O', 'Pelline', 'Personal Growth', ... .  And now the off page 'Right Wing' column has its listed posts per blog reduced to the last three.  Oh well, even though it's nice to still be listed, I'm having a hard time understanding why Dr Haynes even tolerates our presence at all since without us all of her content can be represented as the heartfelt outpourings of a politically correct, consistent, and harmonious middle.  gjr]

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[Todd Juvinall]

She has my stuff under a new header called "Rightwing ll. Cracks me up.

[Bill Tozer]

What, no Hillary? Darn, I was hoping for another do over. Well, you never know what the future brings. I remember when Edmond Musk was the hands down front runner by the polls looking ahead into the future. Edmond who?, you ask? Exactly.
. Looking at the polls at this place in time, I gather that most Americans want the 2016 election in the rear view mirror and move on to the next thing coming down the pike. Think it will be best to start to commence to look ahead and see what our new President can or cannot do in his first 2 years. Limbo time, as one President has yet to vacate public housing and another yet to move in. The waiting room. Good time to clean out the closets and finally going through the clutter. Oh, what to leave in, what to leave out.

Still about jobs, jobs, jobs. Pocketbook issues. No surprises here.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/poll-democrats-independents-no-hillary-clinton-2020-232898

[Russ]

Dr Haynes need to do a little more clean up.

[Pruett CABPRO Report Light on Nevada County NC Media Watch Rebanes Ruminations RS-NextGrandMin RS-SFoothillComm Sherman Sierra Env Studies Fndn]

Pruett's last post was March 2015.

CABPRO Report last post was April 2012.

Light on Nevada County last post was February 2014

NC Media Watch last post was October 2013

Sierra Environmental Studies Foundation last post was October 2010.

I am not sure NCVoices readers appreciate being sent to the history pile, when they were looking for the lastest in conservative thinking. A clean up would allow RR more space.

[fish]

All these attacks by Trump supporters are starting to get out of hand......

IVANKA TRUMP
ACCOSTED BY PASSENGER ON JETBLUE FLIGHT

....wait wut.....

http://www.tmz.com/2016/12/22/ivanka-trump-flight/

[Bill Tozer]

You could see this coming. It's just keeps getting longer and longer. They added a Q and now have added an I and an A. I just can't keep up. What does the IA in LBGTQIA represent? NA would be Native American, I reckon, but IA?? Soon the acronyms will be longer than the alphabet.

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=8559

[ScenesFromTheApocalypse]

http://www.mndaily.com/article/2016/11/ellisons-push-for-dnc-chair-brings-to-light-old-columns

[ScenesFromTheApocalypse]

What does the IA in LBGTQIA represent?

Intersex and Asexual. I don't have the slightest idea what 'intersex' means.

[Paul Emery]

Newsflash from the Swamp

"President-elect Donald Trump’s pick to lead the Environmental Protection Agency, Scott Pruitt, became one of Exxon Mobil Corp.’s fiercest defenders this year as the oil giant battled legal probes into its funding of climate science deniers.

Exxon Mobil, meanwhile, served as a major donor to the Republican Attorneys General Association, of which the Oklahoma attorney general served as chairman in 2012 and ‘13 and remains a member."

Not an insider right?

[fish]

Posted by: Paul Emery | 22 December 2016 at 02:39 PM

Should we expect an endless series of open ended questions from the host of "Uncle Paul's Question Time" about Secretary Pruitt?

I think we should!

[fish]

My evil plan is working......slowly rubs hands together in extremely evil fashion....perfectly!

EXCLUSIVE: Pity the husbands of Los Angeles - sex therapist claims city's Hillary-supporting women have lost their libido over Trump victory

Their husbands can thank me at a later date!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4059800/Pity-husbands-Los-Angeles-sex-therapist-claims-city-s-Hillary-supporting-women-lost-libido-Trump-won.html#ixzz4TbzCDf9V

[Paul Emery]

Why not Fish? Is it not the time to question?

[Russ]

Paul@02:39

Who did you thnking Trump should have picked to dismantle the EPA, a member of the Sierra Club?

[fish]

Posted by: Russ | 22 December 2016 at 03:22 PM

Not even a case of dismantling it....just make it conform to the intent of its original charter....and not declare every post football urine filled puddle a "wetland" and it's probably good! I don't think anybody has a problem with the EPA running down "Midnight Dumpers"....declaring parcels already zoned for development protected wetland habitat not so much!

[Walt]

Paul's pick would be that Chad Hanson prick.

[Russ]

Uber's autonomous vehicles experiment in San Francisco has come to an end. [CalTrans Competition?]

Following Uber's decision to pull its self-driving cars off San Francisco streets yesterday, the ride-hailing company today said those cars are on the way to Arizona.

“Our cars departed for Arizona this morning by truck. We’ll be expanding our self-driving pilot there in the next few weeks, and we’re excited to have the support of Governor (Doug) Ducey," Uber spokeswoman Chelsea Kohler said today.

Gov. Ducey responded with his statement, welcoming Uber's cars with "open arms and wide open roads."

“While California puts the brakes on innovation and change with more bureaucracy and more regulation, Arizona is paving the way for new technology and new businesses," he said in a statement.

Sacramento submitted a request to CalTrans to have the self-driving cars tested in Sacramento. Denied? Apparently CalTrans does not want any Uber self-driving vehicles in California, they have funded their own version through the UC Berkeley automated driving laboratory called PATH.

UC Berkeley PATH is pleased to announce the creation of the Berkeley DeepDrive (BDD) Industry Consortium. This research alliance will investigate state-of-the-art technologies in computer vision and machine learning for automotive applications.

PATH is a partnership with Uber's competitors. Could the banning of Uber self-driving cars have anything to do with the fact CalTrans is funding a competitive team? Oh, by the way PATH has been working on self driving cars for over 30 years. I used to visit PATH in the 1990s and worked to make TRW a partner. It appears that private industry has surpassed 30 years of PATH research effort with actual self driving products. Competition is producing selfdriving cars, PATH is producing research. Interesting.

[ScenesFromTheApocalypse]

Shot across the bow.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/812061677160202240

[ScenesFromTheApocalypse]

Trouble brewing.

https://i.imgur.com/UETfAkf.jpg

[Bill Tozer]

How about them Frisco values?? Well, I guess he won't be moving Nevada City.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/12/23/metallica-singer-leaves-bay-area-because-elitist-attitude.html

[Bill Tozer]

There have been millions of words written this past campaign season. One quote stood out to me head and shoulders above the rest. It explains a lot, including our Green Libertarian's head spinning like a top.

Written in Sept, 2016 on The Atlantic.com:
"The press takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally."

Another take:
"And then she hit on the other point which won Trump the election – one which Glenn Beck echoed just yesterday. Zito said that “the press takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally.” Beck put it a slightly different way, but made the same point. He said that we all took him literally, but not figuratively, while his supporters took him figuratively, but not literally."

http://minutemennews.com/26897-2/

[fish]

Hey.....I know at least one Chinese guy who is having a Christmas miracle!

One user wrote: "Why would a friend gift him a bomb?"

Another said: "It's more stable than a Samsung phone."

http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/villager-in-china-uses-grenade-to-crack-open-walnuts-for-25-years

[Bill Tozer]

@ 11:54 AM: Well Fish, this is the Sandbox is it not.....

https://www.facebook.com/LaughOrCroak1/photos/a.289033751155764.69115.288992101159929/1313961498662979/?type=3&theater

A more thoughtful thesis on misognity in America (Tranny Tiolets, Kellyanne) is forthcoming when I get back in a more serious mood. But not today. Until the, how about my chuckle of the day!! Featuring my new My Gal. Oh goodie goodie.
She's mine Fish, so keep your mitts off.

"this is not what my body has ever looked like or will ever look like."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fashion/style/lena-dunham-accuses-spanish-magazine-of-photoshopping-her-cover/

Opps, it was never retouched. That's my new My Gal!

[Don Bessee]

0 sat back and let the FDIC get hacked by Chinese military in an ongoing basis since 2010, 159 major hacks in FY2015 alone.
Funny how madam liar liar pantsuits on fire and her fans are mute on all of the cyber crime allowed by 0. ;-)

[Paul Emery]

Can any of you act as an interpreter on this tweet from Trump:

"The United States must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nukes"

I don't have a clue what he means when he says "coming to it's senses"

Some of you seem to understand his rhetorc so helpme out if you can. Not a question, just asking for a translation from those in the know.

[Walt]

Your on your own from here on out Paul. Yup,, most of us know what he means. Someone as "enlightened" as you should be fully aware of what is meant by that.

[Don Bessee]

Get an education PE, go google 0's nuke modernization plan to start. Happy to help a friend in need during the holidays. ;-)

[Paul Emery]

Don't have a clue Walt what threshold he considers reasonable senses.

[Todd Juvinall]

Sorry Paul Emery, we are not interested in what you are interested in.

[Paul Emery]

George, can you be of assistance in this matter?

[Todd Juvinall]

Princess Leia had a heart attack on a flight 15 from landing at LAX. A EMT on board saved her and she is now in hospital. I hope she is OK!

[Don Bessee]

Didn't you get the news PE, there was a UN resolution to have a moratorium on answering any PE questions. ;-)

[Paul Emery]

George, hoping you can help with the translation.

[Bill Tozer]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=734109783406216&set=p.734109783406216&type=3&theater

[Todd Juvinall]

God Bless Carrie!

[Bill Tozer]

May the Force be with Carrie.

This is going beyond getting old, it's downright pathetic. And to think the world was once his oyster.

http://finance.yahoo.com/video/obama-blames-fox-news-tarnishing-201905873.html

[Paul Emery]

Te world is still his oyster. He's finishing up his 8 years with the highest approval ratings in recent history and Trump is starting up with the lowest in recorded history. Presidents generally start at the top and work down. In this case Trump is starting at the bottom and , we'll see.

[Todd Juvinall]

Don't care.

[Paul Emery]

Putin writes to Trump:

“I hope that after you assume the position of President of the United States of America we will be able – by acting in a constructive and pragmatic manner – to take real steps to restore the framework of bilateral cooperation in different areas as well as bring our level of collaboration on the international scene to a qualitatively new level.”

Putin signed the letter “V.Putin.” He also included a holiday message and asked Trump, “Please accept my sincere wishes to you and your family of sound health, happiness, wellbeing, success and all the best.”

No doubt his view of "bilateral cooperation " means lifting sanctions imposed after his invasion of sovereign baltic states. Ironic that this crew (RR's chest thumpers) were all over Obama for his weak response to Putins aggression's. Better watch out for your home turf George (Estonia) After sanctions are lifted the rest of the Baltics will be up for grabs especially with such a chummy relationship between billionaires.

[Todd Juvinall]

Pen pals

[Paul Emery]

Trump on Ukraine. No wonder Putin likes him over Clinton

Trump says

"And very importantly if you use Ukraine as an example and that’s a great example, the country surrounding Ukraine, I mean, they don’t seem to care as much about it as we do." So there has to be at least a change in philosophy and there are also has to be a change in the cut out, the money, the spread because it’s too much.

[Bill Tozer]

3:24 pm
Two ships passing in the night

[Account Deleted]

http://www.mediaite.com/online/david-axelrod-on-trump-when-you-press-send-on-a-nuke-theres-no-deleting-it/
Say Paul - maybe you can enlighten us. Trump the Russian puppet, is also Trump the war monger.
So Putin has told Trump to nuke Russia.
Is that the story?
Help us out here Paul. What story are we supposed to believe?

[Don Bessee]

PE @ 250- That must be some fine ganja there PE. Perhaps the big 0 will invite you for a round of golf in Rancho Mirage. 0 is the Nero of Presidents, the world is in flames because of him and madam liar liar pantsuits on fire. Boy that bs popularity number is diametrically opposed to everyone's view of the results and direction of the Country under 0. 0 is diplomatically impotent and the biggest bungler in diplomatic history. 0 makes Chamberlin look good. He set the stage for a world war, but hey, he got a peace prize for doing nothing so all's good right? ;-)

[Don Bessee]

PE @ 315- I would much rather the Russians are sucking up to our president than have our president sucking up to Putin's lackeys as 0 did. ;-)

[Todd Juvinall]

Two ships passing in the night. Good one BT! I suggest the rest follow.

[Bill Tozer]

Oh no, that was low. Ouch

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/767043673445857/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/982547481879289/?type=3&theater

Double ouch!
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/981274265339944/?type=3&theater

[Bill Tozer]

No worries, help is on the way.

https://www.facebook.com/potusdjtump/photos/a.1734160826902026.1073741828.1734155666902542/1735093410142101/?type=3&theater

[Paul Emery]

I';; gladly answer your question Scott

Trump is the Russian puppet, here's why.

Trump is one confused puppy. You can NEVER believe a word he says. Because he is an accomplished liar nobody takes anything he says seriously especially someone as crafty as Putin. Putin will play him like a spider to a fly. He'll get what he wants out of Trump and then chomp off another bit of the Balkans knowing that Trump will be helpless in stopping him just like Obama was. Obama did impose sanctions which was irritating to Putin but Trump and his Exxon puppet Sec of State will reverse that for the profit of both Trump and Exxon.

Scott, what other playing card will Trump have if Putin makes a move on the Balkans or worse. What's he gonna say-"Putin my friend, I thought we had a relationship??"

Trump has no idea what he's getting himself into. He's willing to publicly bargain with NATO over bills due while Putin plays him like a chump. There is no way Trump is as smart as Putin in this game. Putin has been at it all his life while Trump was building hotels and sponsoring beauty contests.

Hope that answers your question about how I see the situation.

Also in my view Putin did intentionally try to influence the election which Trump denies. What a simple blackmail card Trump can play if he wants to get nasty with Trump. Who knows what other goodies he has on Trump if he decides to play that game. I fear that Trump will be helpless in any negotiations with Russia because he's already so compromised.

[Paul Emery]

that's-"for the profit of Putin and Exxon "

[Bill Tozer]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DIeY7J9kjg0

[Don Bessee]

RUN FOR YOUR SAFE SPACE PE! Will PE become a prepper and start buying guns? I would love to see what you wrote about Saint Ronnie. ;-)

[Gary Smith]

Paul:
Hopefully Trump will do a better job than Obama in the Middle East. He failed in Iraq and Libya. Apparently he pissed the Turks off besides, a story I have been following for a while. John Kerry accused Turkey of importing ISIL oil in 2014. Turkey denied it and asked for the proof, Kerry provided it. It turns out to be false, and the CIA apologized in a written letter to Turkey. Now in the closing days of this administration, Kerry sends out a low level spokesperson to say that there is no evidence of Turkey smuggling ISIL oil. Kerry apparently does not have the balls to say he screwed up. Read the article to see how to say you were wrong, without really admitting it. Less than one month of this hapless administration and then we can get a fresh start. Here is a link to the article.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/us-found-no-involvement-of-turkey-in-isil-oil-trade.aspx?pageID=238&nID=107658&NewsCatID=510

[Paul Emery]

Gary

Turkey is indeed another example of our failed policy in the middle east for the last 16 years.

We may be able to agree that the foreign policy in the Middle East was a total failure for both Bush and Obama. Even Trump claims Bush lied to get us into the war and we ignored history and got ourselves into the endless pit of a land war in Afghanistan. Obama pulled us out of Iraq and left a country divided and motivated to return to their tribal roots disrupted by the Europeonolization (not a word) of the middle East by Churchill and the Colonial disrupters. He encouraged rebellion in Syria with no support for those who chose to take on Assad. Libya the same. What both administrations failed to realize is that those countries are best governed by regional thugs such as Saadam, Assad and Gaddafi.

Now we have a President with zero experienced and a foreign policy run by big business zillionaires and over the hill Generals. Good luck to us.

[Todd Juvinall]

Don't feed the troll!

[Don Bessee]

Ah, backsliding into Bush derangement syndrome PE. 'Over the hill generals', what total BS, they are the cream of the crop that 0 forced out for telling the truth as was their job. They refused to go along with 0's lies to the American people. Can we say jv isis?
Just the kind of guys who will make the mullahs and dictators quiver and leak. Trump should get the Scorpions to play winds of change at the inaugural! ;-)

[ScenesFromTheApocalypse]

https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/09/07/the-kremlin-really-believes-that-hillary-clinton-will-start-a-war-with-russia-donald-trump-vladimir-putin/

[Don Bessee]

Todd @551- Come on Todd, give the druid a break, it is Christmas and we all have Christian spirit to spare! ;-)

[Bill Tizer]

May we agree....that someone needs a hug?

[Todd Juvinall]

You are soooo funny BT!

[Don Bessee]

We should chip in and call for a woods nymph delivery. ;-)

[George Rebane]

PaulE re Trump's nuke statement. The statement by Trump was meant to obfuscate somewhat since his nuclear policy will not be formed until after he becomes president, and most certainly not on the fly when a reporter sticks a mike in his face. But the best takeaway from this brief statement is that we have again arm ourselves to the level that we are perceived again as the meanest and most capable military sumbich in the world so that every third rate power does not think that getting a nuclear device will put them on par with everyone else. That's what 'coming to their senses' means.

How he does that and with what propensity/instigation he will use our military might to police the world is TBD. But yes, as bad as progressives and libertarians may make it out, the USA has to get back into acting as the sheriff if we want peace in the world (conduct small brush fire wars to avoid global wars).

[Todd Juvinall]

A nativity scene from 3,000 B.C.

http://www.seeker.com/5000-year-old-nativity-scene-found-2161058490.html

[Don Bessee]

DR R. we have most of the parts in place and just need to fund war reediness martials, read spares and pre positioning equipment. We must stop over deploying. Those and having the will and determination to stand for principles and friends are the keys to world stability.
It will take years to see the fruits of new capitol equipment acquisitions and the scum bags know they will have a narrow window in the near term. I pray 0's one upping Chamberlin will not cost our brothers in arms too dearly.

[Bill Tozer]

Paul takes Trump literally, but not seriously. We take Trump seriously, but not literally. Paul just has it ass backwards, as did all the Left, the press, the RINOs, Hollywood, Snowflakes, bedwetters, and all the rest of the unenlightened ones have done since day one. Chickens running around with their heads cut off.

BTW, the full story about the underwater drone has come out. Trump told the Chinese to keep it and then they returned it. Nothing to see here, right? But, more has been revealed. Trump actually told them to shove the UUD up their ass so he can denotate it. They returned it after that.

Putin said today he hopes Trump invites him to the Inauguration just to "piss the sore losers off". Those two are characters something else. Fun to be a chest pounder, is it not? :)

[Bill Tozer]

Boo! Run for the hills!

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/982815645185806/?type=3&theater

[Paul Emery]

Bill

Yes they are two characters but Putin is truly evil something I don't believe Trump is. Trump seems starstruck by Putin. Putin is playing him like a string toy.

[Paul Emery]

No Sierra
Wood Nymphs for you Don. You are a ganjaphobiac. You would have to travel to the other side of the Yuba. I'm not sure you're comfortable there.

[Bill Tozer]

A Christmas Greetings from our War Mongering Progressives.

https://www.facebook.com/bill.tozer.9/posts/1234348726612028?ref=notif&notif_t=feedback_reaction_generic&notif_id=1482561631768498

Can you say "out of touch with reality?" That's good, I knew you could. And they wonder why they lost, lol. The best news is they think they have the winning message, just need to do a better job of getting the message out. Merry Christmas all you little people.

[Account Deleted]

Thanks Paul - as I said, Trump is either a war monger or a puppet. Paul conveniently ignores that Putin has already 'made moves' and the signal from Obama was that we'll do nothing.
Putin and China will continue to do what they do, unless Trump starts to rattle sabers. And maybe has to back it up.
So which is it, Paul? You want the war monger or the puppet?
Can't have it both ways.

[Bill Tozer]

What a surprise. 8 billion bond measure for 38 billion bullet train? California Dreaming, with no operating costs, right? Too funny. Where do these people come from....

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-bullet-train-cash-20161224-story.html?ref=yfp

[George Rebane]

DonB 817pm - Having most pieces in place doesn't cut it. And if we don't want to deploy people on land bases, then we need to get back to having at least 12 carrier task groups so that six can always be deployed and ready to respond anywhere in the world. And we need the next generation fighter and attack aircraft to counter the latest from Russia and soon China. And we need to upgrade our nuclear arsenal since nukes have a finite reliable shelf-life. And our next generation of quiet attack subs is woefully small. And ...

Bottom line is that peace ain't cheap, that's why we need a robust wealth generating economy to pay for all of it and stop us marching down the road to serfdom.

[fish]

Now I confess......I found this a little counterintuitive!

Suddenly Liberals Are The Ones Stockpiling Guns, Food And Supplies

I wonder what some members of the "Kricket Korps" are planning on buying before the calendar rolls over......AR-15.....Glock......Model 1911.....a pistol with a flag that shoots out with a flag that unfurls and reveals "BANG".

Wonder what the gun laws will be like in the new country that's in the process of breaking off from California......?

Hey...."Keep It California".....y'all! Stay "Woke"!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-23/suddenly-liberals-are-ones-stockpiling-food-guns-and-emergency-supplies

[Bill Tozer]

@8:13 am

This is good. We are making some progress here. Looks like it has finally dawned on the libs that government may not be the solution to all the ills in life. Rugged individualism may still be a dirty phrase in liberal circles, but it is beginning to dawn on them that survival is kind of important......especially since the People's Democrat Socialist Green Republic of CA is going to forego having a military and put the security on the shoulders of the formerly known CHP.
Looks like they will be also be needing a passport to visit forgein countries like Canada, Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Oregon, Hawaii and all destinations in the United States of America.
Opps, no ID? Well, no papers mean you are stuck. Welcome to the Hotel California...where you can never leave.

Of course, liberals being liberals mean they are stockpiling guns and survival packs just as prices have doubled! Lol. Some things never change. They aren't known for good planning, business savvy, prudence, or making wise decisions.
Wait a cotton picking moment. Libs and firearms don't mix. What possibly could go wrong? Plus, that survival food is not organic. Shelf life of 25 years. Opps, Houston we have a problem.

[Paul Emery]

Scott

Obama did do something after Putin's aggression in the Crimea and Ukraine and that was impose sanctions , a move that I am certain Trump will reverse. I think mostly Trump is a saber rattling puppet who doesn't have a clue as to who he's dealing with. As I said earlier building resort hotels and promoting beauty contests is a far cry from dealing with total evil which is what Putin is. He has no concept of the craft of dealing with that sort of situation. In contrast Reagan did. Trump ain't no Reagan Scott.

Put9in has enough stuff on Trump that he can dole out to Wikileaks if he needs to cut Trump down to size the biggest thing being his acknowledgement of helping Trump by distributing stolen correspondence to influence the election which you may or may not believe happened.

George

The boast of building up our nukes made by Trump was non something he blabbed to the press but a late night Tweet as is his style.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/22/world/americas/trump-nuclear-tweet.html

[Walt]

Merry Christmas everyone.
Fish.. I showed that to Paul the other night to get his "take". The crickets were defining.

Bill. As usual, the Kalif. Commies haven't thought their half baked, drug induced, and all out hate of Trump with a dose of butt-sore idea through.

[fish]

Posted by: Paul Emery | 24 December 2016 at 09:44 AM

Sounds like this would be an excellent time to reestablish friendly relations with your maker Paul!

[fish]

Posted by: Walt | 24 December 2016 at 09:51 AM

Yes I'm waiting for a certain former editor of your local newspaper to weigh in on both the gun/prepper topic as well as the potential new country issues vis a vis his earlier criticism of "State of Jefferson" efforts.

I imagine the cognitive dissonance is quite awkward for him.

[Bill Tozer]

Maybe we can bring back the Neutron Bomb and drop it on Frisco. Won't damage any of the historical landmarks.

Sandbox quotes:
“Democrats are losing on every front and looking for people to blame everywhere. They need to learn to lose with dignity.” —Vladimir Putin

Oh my, another female is called "that woman" by a Democrat Party bigwig. That is misogyny or sexism or bigotry or Elitism, all of the above. Away with the wretched wench.

“I believe one of the failures of Democratic Party has been the Democratic National Committee. The DNC has been worthless. … So I would hope that they would choose a chair of the Democratic Party who is a full-time person. Not someone like we had with that congresswoman from Florida, who was a full-time congresswoman and a part-time chair of the DNC.” —Harry Reid

“It’s time the media applied at least the same level of skepticism that they reserve for real terror attacks to fake hate crimes. Why? First, because their job is to report the facts. Second, because if they’re really concerned about not alienating or radicalizing American Muslims, they shouldn’t hype the propaganda efforts of the idiots who are doing exactly that.” —Jonah Goldberg

[Bill Tozer]

Walt @ 9:51 am

Merry Christmas to you as well. Today is the first time I do all the prep and cooking for the Christmas Dinner....by myself. Yep, planned the menu, read "best darn recipes ever" on line, cleaned the house and bought pretty little napkins. And finally douched out the spare bathroom, complete with fresh beach towels that guests can actually use to dry their hands. Lost a bet and the little lady is enjoying herself immensely......so much so that I had to kick her out of the kitchen. Everyone is a critic nowadays. Now where does she hide the garlic peeler? What time is everyone coming? Yes, it will be ready and what is so darn funny?

Anyway, libs stocking up on guns? Just proves that anyone straight from the rubber room can purchase a gun. I thought we had laws against the insane buying firearms in CA....unless the libs are lying......well, the black market doesn't do backroom checks on our crazy lefties. Maybe they even take food stamps.

Dr. Rebane: A roboust enoconmy can pay for a lot of new hardware.

Paul: Oil, like ethanol, is just a 'bridge' fuel until we all can get on natural gas.

[Account Deleted]

Ha ha - Paul: "Obama did do something after Putin's aggression in the Crimea and Ukraine and that was impose sanctions , a move that I am certain Trump will reverse."
Yeah, Obama really put Putin in his place. When I say 'do something', I mean do something that has a positive effect. Putin hasn't backed off an inch and the Russian presence and influence is stronger than ever. Obama has emboldened Russia and made Putin more popular than ever in Russia.
And you are 'certain' that Trump will reverse the action. As certain as you were that Trump wouldn't win? Why don't we wait until Trump is pres before we fabricate stuff to criticize him for?
I know, haters gotta hate, but please, Paul - you abided 8 years of complete failure stopping by only to continue to flog Bush.
Bush was a failure, but at least he acted like he cared about our safety. Obama bent over backwards to cause trouble and make things worse.

[Walt]

Bill my friend. If your Mrs.,, is anything like MY Mrs.,,, There is man clean, then there is woman clean. If your doing the turkey, remember to pull that plastic bag of innards
out of it's backside.(yup,, left one there myself once. NOT pretty)

LIBS and guns just don't mix. (old school Dems seem better equipped to deal with them.)
A special class is needed just for the LIBS.. Like Just which end the bullets come out of.
No,, a gun will not sneak out of the house and shoot someone all by itself. Little things like that LIBS just don't comprehend.

I let you get back to remodeling the kitchen. BTW.. keep those fingers out from under the knife edge. Marry Christmas buddy.

[Walt]

Just for fun.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/12/24/cops-impaired-driver-nabbed-by-excavator.html#?refresh=true

[Bill Tozer]

Couldn't have happened to a nicer couple.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4063936/Fans-Ivanka-Trump-flood-Clinton-supporter-s-Amazon-book-page-one-star-reviews-husband-accosted-future-daughter-JetBlue-flight.html

Hey libs, we ain't taking your lip o more. Season's beatings.

[Paul Emery]

Scott My opinion is just that. Take it or leave it. If sanctions were such a failure why is there such an urgency to repeal them. Scott, what is your speculation as to why the Russians are so happy that Trump is President?

"Once it became clear he had won, Russia's parliament erupted in applause and Putin told foreign ambassadors he was ready to fully restore ties with Washington."

Here's a pretty good summary of the situation from Rueters

"For all their mutual praise, Russian President Vladimir Putin and U.S. President-elect Donald Trump are likely to disagree on many things.

But Trump's election win could hand Moscow an elusive prize - the lifting or easing of Western sanctions.

Rolling back those sanctions, imposed by the United States and the European Union to punish Moscow for its 2014 annexation of Ukraine's Crimea and support for separatists in eastern Ukraine, could spur investment in Russia's flat-lining economy.

That might make it even easier for Putin, who is trying to plug holes in the state budget inflicted by low oil prices and sanctions, to win a fourth presidential term in 2018 by allowing him to show he has returned the economy to growth.

"Clearly the chances of sanctions being lifted on Russia have risen substantially," Charles Robertson, Renaissance Capital's global chief economist, said. "That would improve the investment climate for Russia."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-reaction-russia-idUSKBN1342FJ

[fish]

Scott, what is your speculation as to why the Russians are so happy that Trump is President?

"Once it became clear he had won, Russia's parliament erupted in applause and Putin told foreign ambassadors he was ready to fully restore ties with Washington."

Probably because of things like this.....

Hillary Clinton's Foreign Policy Isn't 'Muscular'—It's Bellicose

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/stop-calling-hillary-clintons-foreign-policy-tough-and-muscular/404608/

Hillary Clinton, Barbed and Bellicose - The New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/12/opinion/hillary-clinton-barbed-and-bellicose.html?_r=0

“She sounds like Netanyahu”: Hillary Clinton goes extra hawkish in her biased, die-hard pro-Israel AIPAC speech

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/22/she_sounds_like_netanyahu_hillary_clinton_goes_extra_hawkish_in_her_biased_die_hard_pro_israel_aipac_speech/

HILLARY CLINTON GOES TO MILITARISTIC, HAWKISH THINK TANK, GIVES MILITARISTIC, HAWKISH SPEECH

https://theintercept.com/2015/09/09/hillary-clinton-goes-militaristic-hawkish-think-tank-gives-militaristic-hawkish-speech/

I tried to use only sources from a lefty bent so as to not upset your delicate palate.

[Paul Emery]

Either way it safe to assume Putin thinks he'll get a better deal out of Trump. Why else would he so conspicuously celebrate his winning?

[fish]

Yes Paul reducing the likelihood that your country goes to war would likely be considered "a better deal".

[Walt]

Putin knew "O" was spinless. Putin did what he did, because he knew "O" didn't have the balls to do anything about it. Putin has NO respect for the lies of "O", or Hillary for that matter. Why do you thin Russia took the lead on the war on terror? They stepped in to do what needed to be done, since "O" was/is too pro Muslim.

[George Rebane]

BillT 1035am - Mr Tozer, given my 756am, I am puzzled by your comment. Did you intend it as information or an echo? ;-)

[Bill Tozer]

Echo

[Bill Tozer]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/12/23/democrats-officially-anti-israel-party/

[Bill Tozer]

https://patriotpost.us/posts/46622

[Russ]

Salon: Conservatism turned toxic: Donald Trump’s fanbase has no actual ideology, just a nihilistic hatred of liberals

One can read a billion think-pieces about Trump’s divergence from traditional conservatism, but the reality is that “traditional” conservatism doesn’t exist anymore, outside a few enclaves of (ha ha) coastal elites. Conservatism as practiced by most Republicans is an ideology built on one single principle: Pissing off the liberals. And no one excels at that more than Donald Trump.

http://www.salon.com/2016/12/23/conservatism-turned-toxic-donald-trumps-fanbase-has-no-actual-ideology-just-a-nihilistic-hatred-of-liberals/

Works me!

[Walt]

Well now. Todd and George went hunting again, and made the news.
https://www.ncscooper.com/area-sportsmen-accidentally-shoot-blitzen/
At least it had antlers.

[ScenesFromTheApocalypse]

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/370613-revealed-putin-personally-hacked-dnc/

[Bill Tozer]

Russ @ 9:57am
I have been reading Salon lately to try to understand and be empathic to those who had their world devasted in 2016. I actually enjoy reading Salon and Vox, a habit I picked up during the summer. Very enlightening.
I never considered that the Hamilton electors (like Bright of Maine) tried to vote for Bernie because they cannot stomach the idea of having a woman in the White House. At least we know the real reason Hillary lost.

"Apparently, it’s not enough for some folks to see the first woman who had a real shot at the presidency lose her bid. They also needed to kick her while she’s down.
“I mean no disrespect to our nominee,” Bright said in a statement. And perhaps this is true. But regardless of what he means, what he did sends a signal, not just to Hillary Clinton but to all the women and girls who might want to run for office some day: Your ambition will make people hate you, so much so that they can’t even be satisfied watching you fail. No, they need to rub your nose in it, hard, just to make sure you never entertain thoughts of rising above your station again."

http://www.salon.com/2016/12/20/thanks-a-bunch-hamilton-electors-rogue-electors-turn-on-hillary-clinton-just-to-add-insult-to-injury/

[ScenesFromTheApocalypse]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gabby-aossey/muslims-are-the-true-feminists_b_9877692.html

[Bill Tozer]

Scenes, I actually agree with the writer's premise, no matter how absurd it seems at first glance. True feminism is about choice; the freedom to make one's own choice, whether the New Feminists like those those choices or not. Freedom to leave the workforce to nurture and care for one's children or become a stripper. We may all be equal, but we are different, be it referring to the sexes (male vs female), or female vs female.

Found this in the comment section in a Salon article about why Hillary lost. Always interesting to read the fingerprinting between the HRC and the Bernie Bros camps. I think the Bernie Bro was making a point I could agree with.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W-VzSG-2oYI

[Bill Tozer]

Hacking alert!

Sony's twitter account got hacked and sent out a tweet that Britney Spears died. Same with Bob Dylan's account, which sent out a tweet ""RIP Britney Spears".

Not a hack, but Buffey got it wrong. Boy George?

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/573083/George-Michael-Boy-George-Sarah-Michelle-Geller-twitter-blunder

[Don Bessee]

Kind of ironic that the on the way out of the door 0 has been giving lumps of coal for Christmas to business and Israel. That group just gained a new member, grandpa Jerry's train to nowhere got a lump too. DOT refused to issue or guarantee a 15 billion loan to the train to nowhere. That effectively kills the project. Did not see that one coming but its a gift to CA tax payers. ;-)