Scattershots – 3jan17 (updated 4jan17)

George Rebane

Having strong or well-formed political beliefs doesn’t always mean that one is also willing or able to reason about them.

Now some keenly honed liberal minds around here think that we should consider the source and therefore ignore the evidence against Hillary.  That’s like telling the DA he can’t prosecute because the police got the goods on the defendant from shady informant Vlad the Snitch.  Only in America.

In the 3jan17 Union there’s a letter from a Mr Ron Lowe, another leftwinger who lights off on President-elect Trump.  The man shows his union school education by citing the non-existent “60s Republican war playbook” that is the source of Trump’s “obvious inferiority complex”,  “fear mongering”, and “openly flagrant nuclear war talk”.  Now since none of this is happening during his current efforts to set up his administration, Mr Lowe must be getting such reports from one of the many fake news manufactories that have sprung up within the usual lamestream media outlets.

I’m happy to know that our neighbors on the Left will now have at least four enlightening years of the Trump administration during which they will know exactly how we felt and why we protested during the last eight years under the ministrations of Barack Hussein Obama whose domestic policies increased regulations, decreased freedoms, raised taxes, stifled the economy, grew corrupt government; and whose foreign policy can be summarized by ‘Protect Muslims, Ignore Christians, Blame Jews’.

We're told that former POTUS Obama will have to remain in DC to guard his legacy and provide much needed leadership to the Democrats.  Apparently there will be no one else from the Left who is willing to spend much political capital to secure fPOTUS an acceptable place in history.  So he'll just have to do the job himself and become the festering fly in the federal ointment and also his own monument around which today's over-wrought socialists can rally while they seek to preserve the swamp. 

[4jan17 update]  Read if you dare Victor Davis Hanson’s most recent report on the state of the Golden State.  Abetted by the toxic coastal elites and as we witness daily, our local Left is doing all it can to expand their progressive septic tank to Nevada County.  Here is a paragraph, suitable for family reading, that summarizes the details of Hanson’s piece -

Abstract idealism on behalf of the distant is a powerful psychological narcotic that allows caring progressives to dull the guilt they feel about their own privilege and riches. Nowhere is this paradox truer than in California, a dysfunctional natural paradise in which a group of coastal and governing magnificoes virtue-signal from the world’s most exclusive and beautiful enclaves. The state is currently experiencing another perfect storm of increased crime, decreased incarceration, still ongoing illegal immigration, and record poverty. All that is energized by a strapped middle class that is still fleeing the overregulated and overtaxed state, while the arriving poor take their places in hopes of generous entitlements, jobs servicing the elite, and government employment.

Comments

[fish]

Who do you believe America.....

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-06/john-harwood-asks-who-do-you-believe-america-gets-surprising-answer

Yeah.....that looks about right.

[ScenesFromTheApocalypse]

An absolutely perfect coda.

http://shark-tank.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Obama-Distinguished-Public-Service-Medal-Getty-640x480.jpg

[Bill Tozer]

6:10 am
Looks about right is correct. Not surprising in the least. MSM has a public relations problem, but they are the last to know.

7:55 am. We started off with Hope & Change, then 8 years happened. We ended with Hope and Sex Change. Opps. Strike that. Michelle said someone took her Hope. The hope is gone, so we all we are left with is Sex Change.

The Legacy of Hope and Change: Voluntary genital mutilation.

[Paul Emery]

Bill

I do have to admit you're a creative writer. Do you stay up at night and think up this stuff?

[Paul Emery]

Todd

No one ever accuse Hitler of being stupid It's not intelligence it's about character

[Todd Juvinall]

Paul Emery, you like Hitler? I guess I was right about you.

[fish]

Posted by: Paul Emery | 06 January 2017 at 08:37 AM

No one ever accuse Hitler of being stupid It's not intelligence it's about character

Says the guy who voted for Obama and preferred Hillary as a second choice!

Does the cognitive dissonance surrounding the election ever cause you physical pain Paul?

[Bill Tozer]

RE: Update VDH
Not as riveting as VDH piece, but more collaborating evidence of CA carving out the middle class. Will America adopt the CA model?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/01/06/california_as_alt-america_132724.html

[Paul Emery]

I mean what kind of character does a person have when they mock physically disabled persons and joke about physically assaulting women.
That's your guy Todd.

[Todd Juvinall]

Oh Paul, I bet you have never done anything like that have you? And if you deny then we all know you are lying.

[Walt]

It's about time.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/06/gop-congressman-takes-down-colleagues-sponsored-art-depicting-police-as-pigs.html
The Prog that put it up can hang it up in his own office.

[George Rebane]

Administrivia - I have been remiss in not deleting these riveting exchanges that have nothing to do with my Scattershot topics. I'm sure our readership would be heartbroken. Nevertheless, I'll try to be more diligent in the future. Sheeesh!

[Paul Emery]

Todd

This man is going to be President of the United States and has such low character traits as to mock physically disabled persons while on the campaign trail. I don't recall ever doing that myself nor do I recall bragging about physically assaulting women.

[Walt]

Gotta tune in Cspan. What a circus the butthurt Left is putting on!

[Todd Juvinall]

The Joint Session of Congress has now certified Trump/Pence as the next President and VP. The black congress libs tried their best to disrupt the proceedings. Biden gaveled them down bless his heart.

Paul Emery, I bet you have done some really questionable things and you are a "journalist" in our community. So tell us some of your foibles so we can judge you.

Regarding the character of Trump. I recall you and your ilk telling us all ad nausea that Clintons screwing a young gal in the Oval office was none of our business and was just sex. Nothing to do with character. How come you now hold Trump to a different standard than you did with Bill?

[Walt]

Hummm. A vote for the spotted owl for President. Any bets from which state?

[Todd Juvinall]

Washington. Cheif Spotted Owl of North Dakota or some such.

[Paul Emery]

The sex was consensual between adults. I never defended Bubbas character just didn't believe that was an impeachable act.

[Gregory]

Trump has a long history of mocking people regardless of race, creed, nationality etc etc.

Paul, you are repeating yourself.

[Walt]

The "sex" wasn't Paul, it was the lying about it. "O" lied plenty. But no way would LIBS hold HIM accountable.

[Todd Juvinall]

Paul Emery is a good true liberal. When faced with exactly the same crime he will exonerate his ilk.

[Paul Emery]

What "crime" are you talking about Todd? Consensual sex?
Admitting to and bragging about sexual assault is a crime as best I can figure.

[Walt]

Seems Paul can't do anything for himself.
"Bill Clinton was indeed impeached for lying under oath to a grand jury and obstructing justice, although he was not removed from office."
Next subject change Paul...

[Gregory]

Let's get it right... bubba was impeached for lying under oath, having been asked in a harassment suit if he'd gotten his pole polished by other subordinates and denying it.

He was also disbarred by the state of Arkansas for that perjury.

Paul, the impeachment being about consensual sex was the fake news of the day and you bought it.

[Todd Juvinall]

Consensual sex? What about all those poor bosses across America who were bashed relentlessly by you libs when they had sex with underlings? And you all said it could not be consensual because of the power structure. You liberals are just too funny Paul. And that is why Trump won. And he bragged about something we all hear in lockerrooms and that is not a crime. You are really a sad case of partisan.

[Bill Tozer]

ROFLMFUEO! Lol. This is hilarious. Make him stop, oh make him stop. LOL!!!!

Oh Walt. Paul in just a one way street. He has no desire to discuss anything or bring anything to the table. It's just jab, jab, jab, poke, poke, poke until he gets a rise out of you. Nothing more, nothing less. Just to sit back and laugh at YOU.

That is the whole enchilada. It his his mission in life. Just to poke you with anything he can find anywhere on the daily news. It's all A ONE WAY STREET and we fall for it. Pure hate 24/7, all attack, all to get ya pissed off silly.

Paul cares nothing about debating ideas. Paul cares nothing about sincerity. Paul cares zero about anything put Pissing you off. Lol. He is just a flamer. That is the whole ball of wax.
Don't matter One Lick to him what Hillary or Obama or liberals do/did/does. If fact, it's not up for discussion. Matters zero to Paul. Not even in the equation.
His sole purpose in life is to piss you off and laugh at you. He is mocking you.. Love him back. He offers no solutions nor cares about anything but getting a rise out of us. Must give him a big woody!!! Love conquers hate. Love trumps hate! Love Paul back to life. He is quite funny if viewed in the proper light. Gently grab his

Exhibit A:
Looks like Paul Emery has one fan. From the FUE's blog to your eyes.
Michael Anderson says:
January 4, 2017 at 11:11 pm

George Rebane damns with faint praise once again. So predictable. BTW, I’ve been enjoying Paul Emery’s rope-a-dope on the RR website, let’s hope he has the stamina to keep it up through 2020. I agree 100% with his analysis, the Rumpsters are going to rue the day. So beautiful. Can’t wait.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 05 January 2017 at 06:30 PM

From Paul's lips to your ears.
Exhibit B: The response.
"Michael, if you're there, the essence of the rope a dope is that Ali was able to absorb incredible punishment while his opponents would exhaust themselves because he would would make them so angry. Ali never let anger get to him. I have Trump as the good healthy devil providing me with endless material on a daily basis. IT is sad though that the inevitable populist movement destined to shake up this country picked such a completely flawed champion. My preference would have been an enlightened Libertarian but no one appeared so this is what we get. I'm in this for 15 rounds though."

Posted by: Paul Emery | 05 January 2017 at 07:05 PM

Embrace the hate. Make it you friend. Paultang is one funny man.

[Paul Emery]

Todd why did you bring up Bubbas indiscretion when the topic was Trumps bragging about sexually assaulting a woman and mocking a disabled person.

[Walt]

How bout some real news Paul? Like the what the butthurt tried to pull at the vote today?
LOL! You're supposed to be a "news guy". FIND that news. Tell us how the "fine lady from Tex." tried to claim "voter suppression". Uncle Joe even had to cut off her mic. and say to her "It's over".
And two got tossed from the peanut gallery.
How bout THOSE apples Paul? LIBS acting like their own mascot.

[Todd Juvinall]

Paul Emery, you don't understand? You love Bubba and he actually did screw a underling. Trump just brags and says it never happened. Seems you want to jail people for bragging. And you claim you are a free speech guy. What a joke.,

[Walt]

Good call Bill. But here,, the "dope" get's "roped". HE was the one all buttsore the other night. Looks like he still is.

[Paul Emery]

Todd, Trump admitted that he sexually assaulted women by grabbing their pussy. So in your view this is just another example of Trumplying. Can't have it both ways.

Walt 12;30 don't have a clue what you're talking about. Can you send me a link to a credible news source.

[ScenesFromTheApocalypse]

Assault?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/donald-trump-tape-transcript.html

[Bill Tozer]

Lol!!

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It's not about Bubba or impeachment or anything but to get a rise out of you fine gentleman, lol. It's the playbook. The big distraction, the big diversion all for the goal of get your goat. Lol. The motivation. Motivation is the key. Akin to arguing with a child. Now, how stupid is that? Too funny. Keep it up Paultang, this is priceless. Piss em off Brother Paul, piss em off and laugh all the way home. What an adorable character. I love you Paultang Emerey.

[Paul Emery]

Thanks for the link scenes Here's an segment. I encourage RR readers to check this out. this man is our President Elect. Lord have mercy!!! Here's a definition of a narcissist,

Narcissism is the pursuit of gratification from vanity or egotistic admiration of one's own attributes.

Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.

Bush: Whatever you want.

Trump: Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.

[Walt]

"jon"Paul,,, purveyor of BS and BS news. Never to be taken seriously, or believed.
But DOES serve as a great pinata. He's also recyclable. Maybe we should call him "Timex"Takes a licking, yet keeps on ticking. Naaa, "jon"paul has a better ring to it.

[Walt]

Answer to "jon"Pauls" 12:56... So what?

[Gregory]

Paul 1256

More fake news from you...

The quote was ... "They let you ... grab their [sounds like wussy]"

How is that not consensual? While it may have been delusional on his part, being allowed to touch a woman's genitals is literally consensual.

Really, Paul, now you've gone back to October to find some traction. How's that working out? He's now certified as the winner of the election. What next?

[ScenesFromTheApocalypse]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2f13f2awK4

[Paul Emery]

That's not the quote from the link scenes sent Gregory. Can you document your view and what difference it makes.

The topic is entirely contemporary because it is part of a discussion of the character of our President elect and how it might apply to his rather bizarre denial of the information gathered by our intelligence services.

[Walt]

Well Scenes,, in Hillary's defence, an Att must defend the client to the best of one's ability. Guilty or not. The rest of her soulless crap is another story.

[Walt]

Stop the fake news "jon"Paul. So Trump has a set of balls, and knows how to use them. Get over it. Clinton splooged all over the oval office, and lied about it. Yet you defend that dirty dog that SHOULD have been nutted. Never mind his hanging around with known pedifiles.

[Paul Emery]

Walt What difference does the disgusting behavior of Bubba 18 years ago make in our look at the emotional instability of our President Elect?

[Bill Tozer]

It's true. Hillary got schlonged by Trump. It was all litigated in the court of public opinion and the verdict was reached on Nov. 8, 2016. The Alt-Left narrative vs the people. The tree vs the forest. The molehill vs the mountain. The people believing Wikileaks 3-1 over believing the CIA. The speck vs the big picture. The past vs today.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/05/poll-73-percent-voters-want-trump-succeed-president/

[Gregory]

"And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything"

Paul, the money quote is "they let you do it".

If I had a few billion laying around, they'd probably let me do it, too.

[Walt]

OHHHhhh Lets see. Bubba,, who has assaulted women VS Trump has hasn't. They tried to accuse Trump, how did that work out? I'm sure you can find the names of Bubba's victims.

[Walt]

Since "jon"Paul won't,,,,
1 Juanita Broaddrick
2 Paula Jones
3 Kathleen Willey

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/broaddrick022599.htm

[Paul Emery]

Gregory

Now you've really blown this wide open. Are you saying that if Trump sexually assaulted a women like he claims a valid defense in court would be "I'm famous and rich so they let me do it" This surprises me Gregory that you would make such a lame statement. Rope a dope must be working, you have no defense in your zeal to defend the behavior or our President elect.

Who cares about Bubba Walt. We're talking about the character of our next President which concerns me.

[Walt]

Give it a rest "jon"Paul. Trumps has a higher standard of"character" than you do.

[Paul Emery]

What do you know about me that allows you to make that statement Walt?

[Gregory]

Paul, you're keeping your eyes wide shut and once again, more interested in creating straw men than understanding. More fake news.

If they "let him do it" it was consensual, not an assault, and none of the women went to the police with assault charges in a timely fashion... moments before the election at the behest of the DNC is not timely or particularly believable.

I don't care for the behavior, but it wasn't assault even if it took place as he said.

[Gregory]

"Now you've really blown this wide open"

I've been writing that from the beginning, Paul. Nothing new.

[Bill Tozer]

Ah, the Bubba years. Those great quotes from his operatives....er...surrogates. "I am sick and tired of people talking about family values." Compartmentalization was the buzz word of the day. Personal life vs public life. The big debate on "Does character matter."

I feel Potang Paul's frustration. However, nothing new has been brought to the table. We all know about the Access Hollywood tapes. It was inescapable for two straight weeks 24/7 during the early fall. Everyone here knew about the tapes. All of America knew about it. It was everywhere one turned. Everywhere. Full blown carpet bombing.

But, the bottomline is all the tapes, links, arguments, debates, self searching, soul searching when marking the X in the box voting booth say...... drumroll please....say it just does matter. The information was out there. The tapes indefensible. But, the bottomline remains: it did not matter. It was not a deal breaker. Grab the Pussy was looked out and end the end it did not matter at the end of the day... Period. No butts.

It may matter, but it did not matter enough to keep our eyes off the prize. It may matter greatly to many and also to me, but not that much when all was said and done. The alternative was much worse. The alternative of Hillary was the deal breaker. A pissed off populace refused to be stopped. Winning is not everything, it was the only thing. Moving on. Keeping my eyes on the prize: borders, language, culture. Homeland security and economic opportunity. Scotus, Scotus, Scotus.

It did not matter enough. Not then, not on Nov 8, not today, and not tomorrow.

[Gregory]

"We're talking about the character of our next President which concerns me."

What a shame the DNC had its contacts in the media start pushing Trump even before the first primary, in order to get Hillary an opponent she could beat. Didn't work. Democrats broke the election, Democrats own the result.

I remain happy Hillary isn't president... all the currently terrible losers would be truly abysmal winners.

[Paul Emery]

Gregory

But Trump speaks in real time here that women submit to him because he's rich and famous so it must be true unless he's telling a lie which is highly possible.

Bill

It does matter when you engage

[Walt]

"jon"Paul.. Your own words and beliefs. Nuff said.

[Paul Emery]

Bill

It does matter when you engage in a conversation about the temperament of our President elect. His narcissistic tenancies are already becoming apparent when you look at the way he's handling the Russian Hacks.

Walt

You must me out of ideas when all you can do is question my integrity rather than defend the temperament of your guy Trump.

[Bill Tozer]

Paul concerns do not concern me. Motivation does not allow contrary information to be processed. Ego says "It MUST NOT be processed. Do not look that way, dare not go there." It's a one way street. Attack, never defend. The world began today. Must attack, must attack, must attack...never defend.

Talk about singleness of purpose, lol. Adorable. What was that lline from the Carol King song? Oh yeah, "you can't talk to a man with a shotgun in his hand." Too funny. I am enjoying this too much. Embrace the hate. Life has no complexities, no nuances. no shades of grey. It's all Black and White. Good guy bad guy. No other options allowed, nor critical thinking. . So cute. How about a hug? I love you little man!

[Walt]

Damn right I will question your integrity. Remember? your only here to instigate. YOUR words.
Now for the 3:00 funnys.
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/01/06/biden-to-electoral-vote-objection-it-is-over/

[Bill Tozer]

Silly Paul. Obviously it matters greatly to you, Paulssy. I already had my internal debate and resolved my internal conflicts.....months ago. So, frankly my dear, I just don't care about the "issue" as much as you do. I just don't FEEL about it the way you demand others to feel about it. I see the same things you do. My feeling are my feeling and one can never argue with feelings. You feelings are your feelings. We simply put different priorities on the issue. Apparently so did the voters.

I feel like a nice sandwich. Toodles. Time for somebody else to babysit Paul. I have selflessly served my time and my shift is over. How about it...somebody, anybody....

PS: Oh yeah, forgot something: Sure Paul, whatever you say. Yes, I agree with you about whatever you say. Sure. Paul, whatever you say.........

[ScenesFromTheApocalypse]

https://definitions.uslegal.com/s/sexual-assault/

"The actor causes submission of the victim by means that is reasonably calculated to cause submission against the victim's will."

http://www.pressenza.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/trump-gesture-photo-720x360-1-720x360.jpg

"And when you’re a star, they let you do it."

http://www.hangthebankers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Obama-Nobel-Peace-Prize.jpg

"The Middle East is obviously an issue that has plagued the region for centuries."

[Walt]

"jon"Paul.. What in this definition of "integrity" applies to you?
" Integrity is the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness. It is generally a personal choice to hold oneself to consistent moral and ethical standards. In ethics, integrity is regarded by many people as the honesty and truthfulness or accuracy of one's actions."

[Paul Emery]

I conceded the election a long time ago Walt. My guy Johnson did not do very well. I'm only concerned that we have come kind of nut in there.

[Todd Juvinall]

Paul Emery, you know you are blowing smoke up others arses with that. You will NEVER give Trump a kind word or a pass on anything. No praise no kindness. That is why we all laugh at you and your attitude.

[George Rebane]

Administrivia - On the off chance that this stimulating conversation actually makes any progress toward a conclusion, I have closed its comment stream and invite whatever unresolved issues still remain be settled in the newest sandbox.