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13 February 2017

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Don Bessee

So vote is PE? Interesting. ;-)

uote is happening

Newsweek headline!!!

Another bombshell: US allies also intercepted contacts between Trump campaign and Russian operatives

There is a huge concern that Trump can be blackmailed because he is so sloppy in his dealings and doesn't have a clue what he's up against.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/another-bombshell-us-allies-also-intercepted-contacts-between-trump-campaign-and-russian-operatives/

Paul Emery

Vote ie happenning is actually me-Paul Emery. Been using a different computer

fish

Posted by: uote is happening | 15 February 2017 at 03:51 PM


That's incredible.......Newsweek is still publishing?

George Rebane

While we're all hyperventilating about seeing the transcripts, should we not in the process practice a little republicanism bequeathed by our Founders, and let our elected representatives have a first peek (in the appropriate committee) to determine what would be in the country's best interests to release to the world? After all, that's what representative government is all about.

Walt

Trump needs to clean house of every LIB., and RINO near him, with ANY access to classified info. The Nevertrumpers have been busy.

Paul Emery

Sounds like the inquisition Walt. Or the French Revolution. What do you propose we do with them after their extraction? How about all the foreign governments that have been taping and hacking away including the Ruskies?

Walt

We can always sink that Russian spy ship that's parked just off the East Coast. How bout that Paul?

The leakers are criminals at this point. Funny how all of a sudden the LIBS find religion
about criminal activity within politics. Before Trump got elected, not one bitch about Hillary's criminal activity. Forget her "pay to play" fun and games? LIBs were more concerned about the news getting out.

George Rebane

Walt 419pm - Excellent point Mr Branson, but you aren't really expecting a response to your observation are you?

Walt

No Really Dr.R.,, the usual suspects scatter when the lights come on.
I had to laugh at what Paul said the other night. Since when did he abandon "yesteryear", and actually bring up the "hear and now"?
Sorry to break the news to Paul, but "O" is far from "gone" as you put it. He's still lurking in the shadows out to screw Trump any way he can. "O"'s minions within gov. are busy doing just that.

Walt

So.. Someone who was really butthurt that "he" didn't get elected, thinks it's OK to leak info.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/02/15/evan-mcmullin-cia-must-defy-president-defend-constitution/

Don Bessee

Walt @ 435- One of 0's enthusiastic minions is our own resident druid, poor ol' PE. ;-)

BradC

Check out this one! I have another good idea - let's just terminate the IRS! At least he is thinking 'big',

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/15/freshman-republican-congressman-reveals-bill-to-abolish-the-epa.html

Don Bessee

Why introduce a bill to abolish the EPA? EPA was created by executive order in the tricky dick administration. President Trump can erase it with the stroke of a pen and return the budgeted money to the treasury.
I have a better idea BC, abolish the dept. of ED along with most of energy as well as EPA. ;-)

BradC

DonB- why stop there - just keep slashing, yeehaw!

Walt

Scrapping the EPA is old news Brad. Didn't you see the reg. writers crying their eyes out
when the news hit? And you wonder why Oroville dam overflowed. They thought they scams were Trump proof.(uh,,, NOPE!) Every reg. they wrote and tried to enforce never went to Congress for approval. The EPA never had the power to write laws, yet did it anyway when LIBS had control. The party's over. A group of people I have no problem seeing in the unemployment line.
OH them money that will be saved from grants the EPA handed out to the ECO kooks.
No more shrimp on treadmills, or if human porn works on lower primates.The list of stupid studies to glean a huge grant money check is endless.. until now.

Don Bessee

We were talking about which depts. to shutter BC, as far as budget cutting that's a whole different conversation. I look forward to the staff cuts at the bloated bureaucracies with a special focus on contractors. The use of continuous contractors to duck staffing limits has grown to epidemic proportions all across govt. Then you have all the global warming staff in every dept. Drain the swamp baby!

Those cuts will more than offset the DOD warfighter increases. ;-)

Paul Emery

TRump does a good enough job of self destruction without the help of Obama. It's a new thrill every day.

Paul Emery

Trump has fallen in Reuters from +8 to -4 in two weeks. Also he's fallen 5 points in Fox to +1 from+6.

Don Bessee

Thanks for the irrelevancies PE.;-)

Bill Tozer

Glad to see the trail has gone from Flynn to President Trump, the real prize. Flynn, with his 34 years of service and all his work in Military Intellence and Intel would know as a matter of fact that all calls to the Russian Ambassador are taped, as well as the Russian Foreign Service. Flynn had assumed foreknowledge that what he was saying to the Russians was being intercepted by the NSA.as per standard operating procedure. Bet there are many more recordings from Flynn as well as many many people that work for for the NSA and Obama's political boys. Boys that are not on the payroll. Private citizens, Release them all!!

There ain't nothing on Flynn. If they had anything, the Obama plants would have leaked it last week.

Now, Scene's 3:04pm link is very interesting. Probably nobody read it in the haste to impeach Trump. But, as of Jan. 12th, the NSA (per Obama's EO) now has broad powers to spy on and record phone conversations of innocent private citizens.

That means if there are any transcripts of private citizens BEFORE Jan. 12, 2017, Obama was running a police state. Release all the transcripts, all of them!!!

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/02/15/surprise-at-the-end-obama-administration-gave-nsa-broad-new-powers/

Paul Emery

My favorite3 quote for the day

"If Trump hopes to tame the leak monster—something no other leak-hating president has ever done—he might want to stop lying first so as not to antagonize the leakers. But you know how likely that is."

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/02/dear-baby-donald-leaks-are-american-214785

BradC

Here is another winner, https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/09/arizona-goper-resigns-after-calling-for-forced-sterilization-of-women-on-medicaid/380191/

Paul Emery

Yeah Brad it takes a Pubber to come up with that one. Our moral guardians,the Republican Party. He's vice president of Arizona's Republican Party none the less. Here's a quote from the story.

"The vice president of Arizona's Republican Party resigned late Sunday night after advocating for the forced sterilization of poor women on Medicaid, according to the Arizona Republic.

During his talk-radio show on Saturday, former state Sen. Russell Pearce said "You put me in charge of Medicaid, the first thing I'd do is get Norplant, birth-control implants, or tubal ligations…Then we'll test recipients for drugs and alcohol, and if you want to (reproduce) or use drugs or alcohol, then get a job."

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

Given the high degree of surveillance now possible on any public figure by most governments (and some companies), you can imagine what's sitting in the vaults somewhere. They probably show scenes from the Lolita Express on movie night at the Kremlin. At this point, I think that practically anyone can be blackmailed. It's a new age.

Just for the sake of fairness, here's some meat for the wolves.

https://sputniknews.com/us/201702151050723578-intelligence-community-war-trump/

Bill Tozer

You know Flynn was sending intelligence report after intelligence to the White House. Flynn was furiously firing off Intel to Obama, which the White House ignored. Stuff like the intelligence assessment was the rebels fighting Syrian Prez Assad were ISIS and ISIS controlled. He also repeatedly informed Obama that Turkey was turning a blind eye to the ISIS build up in Syria.

Later Flynn revealed that he never met once with Obama over the 4-5 years as being his Intel guy.

Just a little side story. Nothing to go with impeachment, lol. Flynn had to go. His assessments of what was really happening was a threat to Obama's world view and Barry Obama fundamentally transforming America into his image.

Bill Tozer

I for one am glad the Russia trawler is off our coast as these fabulous Russian ships have been continuously off our coast for years. But, gasp!, they are going to fire off cruise missiles. They are spying on us!! No silly, they are going to launch missles at us.

The Russian ship is 30 miles off our coast to protect Trump from the hooligans and the from the lawless Obama Shadow Government. We all know his goons roam the streets looking for Deplorables who need to get their minds right. Thank goodness for Putin sending more Russian ships off the West Coast to protect Trump and his Irredeemables. They were too late to help this old man from the wrath of the Bedwetters. They are a violent lot with no sense of humor. Puppets, drinking the opiate of the feeble minded. Puppets, raging puppets.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/02/15/rohrabacher-staffer-71-knocked-unconscious-by-group-delivering-valentines-day-cards/

BradC

BillT@644pm - Thanks, I feel safer now.

Bill Tozer

Breaking news! New development.

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/797914440358780/?type=3&theater

Hmmm. Isn't Brenan the guy who lied to Obama and Congress?? Boy, without Snowden, we would have never known he lied to Obama, to Congress, and to the American people.
I think Trump should have handled Flynn the same way Obama handled Brennan. I know, the exploding heads ran over here and suddenly changed their rules and we cannot talk about things of yore. They set the rules on Dr. Rebane's' blog, ROFLMFUEO! Too funny. I know, I know, the world began today.

The silver lining is we never have to hear a peep about "Bush lied, people died!" ever again. Bush Derangement Syndrome is officially put in its final resting place. Thankyou Statists!! Thankyou, Thankyou, Thankyou.


Paul Emery

Not with me Bill. Bush was the worst President in modern history. We were attacked on our homeland with thousands of casualties. Also we were pulled into a fake war in Iraq based on lies that our current President Trump says should have led to Bush's impeachment. Also he took a thriving economy inherited from Democrat Bill Clinton that had a near balanced budget and left us with the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression and a nearly doubled national debt. The War in Iraq cost us Trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives. We're still engaged in Bush's other war, the war in Afghanistan.

Yes, the worst President in modern history until...............well.

Don Bessee

Yes, the worst President in modern history until........ 0. ;-)

BradC

Here is an interesting read, California success story.

http://boingboing.net/2016/09/19/this-couples-business-uses-m.html

Walt

Paul. I really think you need to take off your shoes and socks to get a good count.
Put down the common core text book. You missed PLENTY to add to the tabulation.
"O" racked up more in debt than all administrations combined. That's not new news.
And what do we have to show for all that? jack sh*t.

Walt

How a certain voting block would bitch if this had happened to "O".
http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/15/exclusive-how-the-nations-spooks-played-the-game-kill-mike-flynn/
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EXCLUSIVE: How The Nation’s Spooks Played The Game ‘Kill Mike Flynn’
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RICHARD POLLOCK
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"National Security Advisor Gen. Michael T. Flynn (ret.) — who resigned Monday — was the victim of a “hit job” launched by intelligence operatives, Obama government holdovers and former Obama national security officials, according to former intelligence officials "

Every one needs to be ferreted out and charged criminally.

Walt

Wow! Now how did that happen?

Paul Emery

Walt

It was Flynn who lied to VP Pence. How was that a hit job or was it ok that he lied?

So was it OK that Bush doubled the national debt?

Don Bessee

There you go again, reading without comprehending PE. ;-)

George Rebane

BillT 720pm - "They set the rules on Dr. Rebane's' blog ..."; please explain.

And then there's PaulE's 730pm about another Bush2 bash of things that president had little or no control over. Funny how libs can always refer to past Republican iniquities, and then when a conservative even presents a hint of the planned devastation of yore, it is suddenly "who gives a crap" what happened before when the tables are turned. As all were informed here years ago, there is no longer any middle ground.

Paul Emery

I'll ask you the same question Don. Pretty simple to answer.

George Rebane

Dear People - I am thrilled and heartened by the debate that enthusiastically continues in these pages, and I thank all participants for their heartfelt contributions. Any third party reader of these streams will quickly get the tenor of the national debate that is ongoing today - a public service indeed. RR is honored and humbled to serve as the venue. Keep it up and give it all you've got!

Paul Emery

George

Are you serious when you say that Bush had " little or no control over" the war in Iraq or the financial crash or being caught blindfolded on 9-11 after being warned about the threat of Bin Laden in special meetings with security and intelligence. Were these things all his fault? Of course not but he was President of the United States and they happened under h is watch.

Don Bessee

Poor ol' PE has a monkey on his back, its as bad as being a crack head. Poor ol' PE is a poll head! One poll that we wont see PE posting is the new one on Breitbart showing the Prez. beating fauxcahantas for el presadente in 2020. ;-)

Paul Emery

Breitbart poll Don? You must be kidding.

Don Bessee

Hey PE, they now have a lotion to clear up those eruptions of your Bush derangement syndrome. Its hash oil based I heard. ;-)

Don Bessee

Not their poll you silly poll head. They reported about a new poll. PE @ 1013.

Paul Emery

Okay Don thanks for straightening that out. Should have just mentioned who conducted the poll.

Here's one for you Don

It was Flynn who lied to VP Pence. How was that a hit job or was it ok that he lied?

Don Bessee

Why, why, why? I really have to check the mmp-5 and see if repetitive utterances is listed as a Trump Unhinged Rhetorical Disorder symptom. ;-)

Paul Emery

For the record I hope BDS never goes away out of reverence to the thousands killed in the needles war in Iraq, the victims of 9-11 which could have been prevented and the millions who lost their jobs, homes, and savings by being looted by vulture capitalists.

Gregory

"It was Flynn who lied to VP Pence. How was that a hit job or was it ok that he lied?"
-pe 1034

Paul, do you have any primary sources on those assertions, because I don't know how one can do it properly without a confession from Flynn, corroboration by Pence and text courtesy the leakers unlawfully releasing details of highly classified and possibly illegal wiretaps through partisan journalists.

Regarding BDS and TDS, I'm sure some of the mentally ill have cogent rationalizations regarding the desirability of their favorite derangements.

Gregory

"Yeah Brad it takes a Pubber to come up with that one."

Eugenics was a "Progressive" movement, Paul. Planned Parenthood has the majority of its abortion centers in the poorest neighborhoods.

Even now, progressive bigots such as the author Chris Mooney, (a BA in English) promotes a neurological basis to explain why people who arrive at different conclusions than he does... here's a parallel to that...
"The political abuse of psychiatry in the Soviet Union originated from the concept that persons who opposed the Soviet regime were mentally ill because there was no other logical explanation why one would oppose the best sociopolitical system in the world."
https://academic.oup.com/schizophreniabulletin/article/36/1/33/1871265/Political-Abuse-of-Psychiatry-An-Historical

Paul, remind me, what was the story you were telling me late last Spring or so, face to face over coffee... how the problem was going to be how to help Republicans cope with the collapse of the GOP's role in the US after the election? Do you remember where you read it, heard it or watched it? What were the details?

Bill Tozer

Dr. Rebane @ 8:55 pm.
"Changing the rules....". I was referring to Mr. Cross (and later the mentally ill guy) coming over to post on your blog declaring we cannot talk or mention what Obama did 30 days ago because he is talking about Donald J Trump. No moral equilavency!! We are talking about Trump, forget everything else! Cannot mention any other President, forget that!! You cannot go there, you must not go there.

Dr. Rebane, it is so typical of the Control Freak libs. Mr. Cross (and later the mentally ill guy) tell you and us what and what not can be discussed. "Forget Hillary!, forget what Obama did, do not bring up anyone but only what I am talking about!! We have only one President at a time and you must discuss only the current President. I demand it".

The above, Dr.Rebane, is what I was referring to with much amusement and astonishment. For years, if the designated topic was an Obama policy and it's ramifications, we could not go 10 minutes without Punchy running over here screaming with his hair on fire "Bush lied, Bush did it too!" A planned deliberate strategy to deflect all criticism off Obama and require all discussions of Barry Sugar Frosted O may only proceed in the context of President George W Bush's greater sins. Now he says Trump and only Trump is to be discussed, ROFLMO. You just can't make this stuff up.

Mr.Cross has repeatedly demanded over several days that Trump can only be discussed divorced of any mention of Trump's opponent he (we) crushed a few months ago and her role in handling sensitive material in relation to the topic of Flynn. Now the retarded DJ guy even says the topic is Trump, forget Hillary, forget Obama the Big Zero, lol. Oh the duplicity is sooooo rich. They set the rules and we must follow,. Beam me up Scottie.
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Well, speaking of current Presidents, I cannot recall Biibi N. ever looking so happy. In fact, I cannot ever recall an Israel Prime Minister ever being all smiles after meeting with an United States President. This is fantastic news on another slow news day. I hope the news cycle has some news worth reading today after slowing down the past two days. Like watching paint dry, except or the comic relieve provided by BDS and TDS.

BradC

Interesting article on the Johnson amendment that Trump wants to do away with, https://trust.guidestar.org/perspectives-on-the-johnson-amendment?utm_campaign=GuideStar+Newsletters+-+Individuals&utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=42749684&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8FJ1s2AbwBj-TIcEePtolf_5hz6I-nNFtyhIjiv_b3X3RExCMwC3rvZX637SzrcBCRWqYvrnnVZNFwwcJwwVTpIOkfEA&_hsmi=42749684

fish

Oh Barry....you have truly saved us all!



THE OTHER SIDE OF OBAMACARE: Millions Excluded from Obamacare Aid, Pass on Coverage.


“It’s hard to tell people who don’t see health care needs in the year ahead that they should be paying premiums and higher deductibles to make the system work for everyone else,” says JoAnn Volk, a senior research professor at Georgetown University’s Center on Health Insurance Reforms. “But the going-in idea is that you’ll need health insurance at some point.”

To 42-year-old Tiffany, one of several people U.S. News spoke with whose last names are being withheld to protect their privacy, the costs of coverage to her and her husband this year were overwhelming: $1,221.20 per month, with an $11,700 deductible. If they were to divorce, they realized, they would qualify for cheaper coverage. Alternatively, Tiffany’s husband, who is self-employed, would need to make an extra $20,000 a year to make up the difference once medication and doctor visits are factored in.

Though the option of ending their 17-year marriage wasn’t truly on the table, to them it accentuated the lack of options they faced this year. The Columbus, Ohio-area residents already had been unhappy with the plan they bought the previous year, finding that it covered few of the services they needed. Their regular medical needs include providing medication for a daughter with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and another with mild asthma.

As a family of five making between $115,000 and $125,000 a year, they did not qualify for subsidies. And doctors in the plans available were far away.

“This year, I just cried,” Tiffany says of the moment she saw how much insurance was going to cost them. “I’m not an emotional person. I was just floored. I completely shut down because there were no options.”


Somebody needs to tell JoAnn Volk that the choice between going broke now for certain, or taking a chance on going broke later, is no choice at all.

Anyway, ObamaCare sticks it to the middle and upper-middle class because, as Willie Sutton is supposed to have said, that’s where the money is.



http://www.usnews.com/news/health-care-news/articles/2017-02-15/priced-out-of-obamacare-some-americans-forgo-coverage

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

re: BradC@7:01AM

Isn't ACORN a 501(c)(3)?

It looks to me like a rule set which can be abused by a partisan administration (hint: they all are) to shut down a desired group. A weaponized IRS is not such a good thing for anybody.

Paul Emery

Gregory can you remind us why Trump got rid of Flynn ? It seems like it has something to do with lack of trust What do you think that means ? N

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

re: Fish@7:23AM

With US yearly per capita health care spending at over $10k, I can't say that I'm surprised by high premiums for anyone, especially people who are 40 or over.

fish



Stupid html code.....

Don Bessee

Poor ol' PE, so burdened with questions and totally bereft of answers. ;-)

Todd Juvinall

Trump plus 10 today. Paul? Paul? Paul?

Paul Emery

Yes in one poll. Way behind in most of the others.

Paul Emery

For your reading pleasure Todd:

Check these out and get back to me. Thanks for your interest in polling.

http://pollingreport.com/djt_job.htm

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Bill Tozer

@8:11
Well Todd, you had to bring up polls, didn't ya. That is like a full moon over the nut house for the disabled one. It has already fired off two waste of space comments. Why Todd, why? Well, it could have been worse. Slow news day again.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1028573570610013/?type=3&theater

Don Bessee

Rasmussen has The President at 55% approval you poor ol' poll head PE. Still no answers PE? ;-)

Don Bessee

Now that you have had your poll fix PE will you be able to hold a conversation sans your BDS and TURD issues? ;-)

Bill Tozer

Since Dr. Rebane has closed comments to the latest Sandbox, and since this post covers 3 topics (unemployment, Mr. Boardman, and General Flynn's resignation), there is no place to put polls or something close to my heart, aka, former liberal feminists who escaped the herd mentality of group think to see things as an adult. Oh, they will always be feminists, but will tell you to get a job and earn the measly $15.00 to pay for your own birth control.

Therefore, in lieu of the Sandbox, I feel it is shameful how the so called "feminists" treat real feminists. It's all about individual empowerment.

"As the old liberal feminist establishment continues their plunge into irrelevance, smearing women they deem the enemy, the future belongs to people like Ivanka Trump, Melania Trump, Emily Ratajkowski, Joy Villa, Andre Soriano, and their friends and supporters. These radical nonconformists are the authentic feminists, the genuine heroes, and bravely free individuals."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/15/liberal-whining-by-hollywood-celebrities-reveals-a/

George Rebane

I see that our liberal readers are again practicing the ‘all or nothing’ ripostes to any suggestion of measured or proportional change – ‘Well if you want to change that, why not just change everything?’ I suppose that is considered lofty thinking in some circles.

Fish 723am – Mr fish, PUHLEEZ learn how to use italics in your comments. I’ve lost count how many times I’ve had to go dig up your comment in the TypePad stream, pull it up, and find the place where you again forgot to terminate italics. Thank you.

BillT 145am – I guess that means we’re flying in tight formation.

PaulE 547pm – Apparently not Paul. No other ex-president in our history has marshaled tens of thousands of protesters (Organize for Action) in the attempt to torpedo the administration of his successor. I am pointing this out as a public service because of the neurological block that you and yours have for even perceiving such goings on. In short, for a certain cohort that comes naturally.

On forced sterilization, our liberal readers are euphoric that they discovered a GOP outlier who advocated forced sterilization of women on various forms of welfare. None of them remembers that eugenics was the ‘science’ of Democrat Party with tens of thousands of adherents that put in place policies which indeed did sterilize women in the early 20th century. (see above comment about their ‘neurological block’)

PaulE 1044pm – Wow! Is this a relapse or just getting his second wind?

Thanks to Mr Tozer’s 938am reminder, the 16sep17 sandbox is now open for business.

fish

Fish 723am – Mr fish, PUHLEEZ learn how to use italics in your comments. I’ve lost count how many times I’ve had to go dig up your comment in the TypePad stream, pull it up, and find the place where you again forgot to terminate italics. Thank you.


George....how do I kill formatting after the fact? I've seen Gregory do it but haven't been able to kill italics after I fail to close a command?

I did try here!

George Rebane

fish 1106am - After you post a comment with 'unclosed' italics, you can always close it by immediately posting another comment with the close-italics HTML syntax - left arrow (or 'less than' symbol), '/', 'i', right arrow (or 'greater than' symbol).

Bill Tozer

Fish @ 11:06

That is because neither you or I are Gregory. Gregory has explained how to get around the paywall to read a posted link. A few times. So, when Dr. Rebane posts with WSJ articles, I cannot read them and thus comment flying blind. My nephew told me to use Google Chrome and hit some icon on the to right....but, it only worked once.

Therefore, am I going to ask Gregory how to do it again and look like a bigger galoot that I already am? Hell no. :). I feel your pain, you big galoot.
Besides, it might be illegal.

George Rebane

BillT 1135am - I have been successful going around paywalls by just googling the topic/title I seek and clicking on the presented link which may or not be to the original publication, but does yield the desired article. Give it a try.

BradC

ScenesFromTheApocalypse | 16 February 2017 at 07:47 AM -

A quick Google search turns up this - ACORN was composed of a number of legally distinct nonprofit entities and affiliates including a nationwide umbrella organization established as a 501(c)(4) that performed lobbying; local chapters established as 501(c)(3) nonpartisan charities; and the national nonprofit and nonstock organization, ACORN Housing Corporation. ACORN's priorities included: better housing and wages for the poor, more community development investment from banks and governments, better public schools, labor-oriented causes and social justice issues. ACORN pursued these goals through demonstration, negotiation, lobbying for legislation, and voter participation.[15]

On March 19, 2010, The New York Times reported that ACORN was on the verge of filing for bankruptcy; 15 of the group's 30 state chapters had disbanded over the previous six months, and other chapters (including the largest, in New York and California) renamed themselves and severed all ties to the national organization.[8] Two unnamed ACORN officials told the Times that the following weekend, a teleconference was planned to discuss a bankruptcy filing; "private donations from foundations to Acorn [had] all but evaporated," and the federal government had distanced itself from the group.[8] "[L]ong before the activist videos delivered what may become the final blow, the organization was dogged for years by financial problems and accusations of fraud."[8] "That 20-minute video ruined 40 years of good work," said Sonja Merchant-Jones, former co-chairwoman of ACORN's recently closed Maryland chapter. "But if the organization had confronted its own internal problems, it might not have been taken down so easily."[8]

On March 22, 2010, National ACORN spokesman Kevin Whelan says the organization's board decided to close remaining state affiliates and field offices by April 1 because of falling revenues.[113] Other national operations continued operating for another several weeks before shutting for good.[110] On April 20, ACORN CEO Bertha Lewis reported that ACORN was "still alive. We're limping along. We're on life support."[114] Lewis said that ACORN's annual budget had been reduced from $25 million to $4 million, and that its staff of 350 to 600 people had been reduced to four.[114] Lewis explained the controversies had left a stain on ACORN, "sort of like a scarlet letter," forcing the group to spend money defending itself against "one investigation after another."[114]


If you go onto their site - ACORN.org - it seems to be just a sort of placholder - looks to be still dead in the water. Case closed.

Gregory

Punchy 745

If you can find us an unbiased and complete account of what happened, I'll be happy to tell you what it means but the fly on the wall of the Oval Office was the NSA's, not mine, and they've dropped me from their xmas card list.

ScenesFromTheApocalypse

"Case closed."

Not at all, it's only an example, and operated for years. There are scads of nonprofits out there that regularly violate political restrictions.

The temptation is simply too high for an administration to selectively use the IRS to cull politically undesirable nonprofits, and frankly I don't see the point of the restriction.

I know the drill though. Politically active pentecostal churches = bad. Politically active groups for the urban poor = good. Politically active corporations = bad. Politically active labor unions = good.

Like a lot of people, I'm sick of the sophistry.

Gregory

Regarding the WSJ.com workaround, first it stopped working for me on Android Firefox, then Android Chrome, then Linux Firefox, then Linux chromium. I'm reading WSJ in a more straightforward way now. I've not tried the online workarounds for awhile.

That straightforward way started by just swinging by the library to read their copies until the Helling library's subscription ran out (December?) and the current management decided not to divert funds from their salaries, benefits and DVD acquisition programs, to actually buy a periodical and keep it on their shelves. It does appear the library's mission has changed... they don't even keep old newspapers or periodicals anymore.

Yes, the last tax measure was passed by the voters.

The WSJ is gone, but the lower priced Utne Reader, Mother Jones, The Nation and others are apparently in no danger. The only three newspapers Helling carries at this time are the SF Chronicle, Sacramento Bee and The Union, with only the last few months kept in unused book space along the east wall of the underused (and small) area where the mostly out of date books are kept.

fish

Posted by: George Rebane | 16 February 2017 at 11:34 AM


I did that! No go.

Paul Emery

I'll have a full look, for your reading pleasure, of todays Trump Press Conference soon. Simply put the Russia thing is getting more Nixonian by the day. Lots of fun.

Paul Emery

George

I need to repeat over and over that Bush is the worst President in modern history. Unbelievably you are trying to minimize his incompetence an argument which cannot hold up to any intelligent scrutiny.

Todd Juvinall

Trump was great today. Called out all those fake news people in the media. And no proof of anything the media fools allege. Trump up ten!

Bill Tozer

Acorn? Oh, they folded and reemerged under different names for different community organizing non-profits. Just follow the whereabouts of where the bigwigs are now. Do you own research.

Bill Tozer

Todd@ 2:17 pm.

Good to see Trump go on the offense and pivot to domestic issues as well as discussing international stuff. Hit on his promises one by one. One by one and the list is chock full of common sense. Jobs, jobs, fair trade not free trade, secure our borders, no more getting screwed, the usual stuff. I was thinking yesterday that Trump needs to go out to Ohio for a day, but he chose Florida. Go figure. And he challengeb the press to try telling the truth, lol. I am certain that this will be reported as an attack on the 1st Amendment.

BradC

Scenes - if you read what I posted you would see that ACORN had a 501(c)4 lobbying side, and a 501(c)3 side...

BradC

Todd, not sure what you were watching,

https://mic.com/articles/168888/here-are-the-5-biggest-lies-from-donald-trump-s-bizarre-press-conference#.AuRR0MGpd

George Rebane

PaulE 211pm - Here all along I and a tens of millions of other Americans thought that Obama was the worst president in modern history. I think that our 'intelligent scrutinizers' don't work in the same way - but then, I've said that for years.

Don Bessee

Darn, PE is having another TURD and BDS eruption. I thought you were getting the balm for that PE. Poor thing. Lets remember he is of an age that small bits from the past inexorably fade away. You know, like Nixon's impeachment, the peanut farmer and slick willy's slick willy.

On the other hand since PE is a cog in the lefty media propaganda machine, it could just be fake news. ;-)

Bill Tozer

Don, remember it is a hate crime to be mean to the mentally disabled.
But, then again, I see your point.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1028561077277929/?type=3&theater

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