Sandbox - 2aug17

[I had no idea that the discussion of Trump’s presidency and its survival could be elevated to the enviable level of an unending ‘Yes he is …’, ‘No he isn’t …’, ‘Yes he is …’, ‘No he isn’t …’, ‘Yes he is …’, ‘No he isn’t …’, ‘Yes he is …’, ‘No he isn’t …’, ‘Yes he is …’, ‘No he isn’t …’, ‘Yes he is …’, ‘No he isn’t …’, ‘Yes he is …’, ‘No he isn’t …’, ‘Yes he is …’, ‘No he isn’t …’, ‘Yes he is …’, ‘No he isn’t …’, without any perceptible loss of interest by the discussants.  Nevertheless, on the off chance that someone wants to introduce a new topic thread, here’s some fresh sand.  However, any such forays into new issues are not required, especially for those convinced that other readers are hanging on every clever word in their repartees ;-)  gjr]

Comments

[Paul Emery]

Yes we do Fish. that's one of the reasons I didn't support Obsama and won't support Trump. the damage has been done. we lost. bring our boys home.

[fish]

Posted by: Paul Emery | 04 August 2017 at 03:48 PM

But you voted for him Paul! By your rationale, voting for him even once makes you culpable!

[Walt]

Gulf war? The bastards had it coming. So Paul, the war in or around 1776 was an "unjust war"? We didn't take any shit from what is now Libya back in 1805 either. Maybe you prefer living under a King's rule.(Mullahs today) Maybe if we waived a white flag back in 1815, would make you a happy guy today.
For a guy who hates war, your here living off the spoils of it. That's reality Paul.
You can personally make amends to yourself,, (how you ask?) You can always fork over your property to Bill T. ( I doubt you will. )

[Paul Emery]

This time I agree with you George. Somehow we have survived two totally incompetent Presidents and now have a Narcissistic Nut Case Egomaniac running the show. It's a testament to the American culture that we are surviving as well as we are.

[Walt]

No Paul,, just one. And you voted for him. Speaking of "O",,
http://nypost.com/2017/08/02/new-york-will-comply-with-feds-voter-fraud-probe-after-all/
It will be fun to see how many cemeterys voted for DEMS.

[Don Bessee]

In another example of the left loosing any semblance of balance twitter censored Eric Trumps retweet about the wonderful jobs numbers. Has megan Kelly started at KVMR now that her Sunday show has been axed? ;-)

[Walt]

How can one video piss off LIBs SO much??
https://youtu.be/XtGOQFf9VCE
"Newsom, the state's lieutenant governor, wrote that he felt a “chill down my spine” when he watched the video.
He said while he and the NRA have long disagreed, the video crosses the line of appropriate political debate. He described it as "dangerous" because it tells viewers “that our fellow Americans are to be feared … and even worse.”

I'm a life member, I have yet to hose down "city hall".

[fish]

Posted by: Walt | 04 August 2017 at 05:06 PM

Oh my......time to buy stock in fainting couch and smelling salt manufacturers!

[fish]

YOU ARE IDEOLOGICALLY IMPURE!

"The woke world is a world of snitches, informants, rats. Go to any space concerned with social justice and what will you find? Endless surveillance. Everybody is to be judged. Everyone is under suspicion. Everything you say is to be scoured, picked over, analyzed for any possible offense. Everyone’s a detective in the Division of Problematics, and they walk the beat 24/7. You search and search for someone Bad doing Bad Things, finding ways to indict writers and artists and ordinary people for something, anything. That movie that got popular? Give me a few hours and 800 words. I’ll get you your indictments. That’s what liberalism is, now — the search for baddies doing bad things, like little offense archaeologists, digging deeper and deeper to find out who’s Good and who’s Bad. I wonder why people run away from establishment progressivism in droves."

....and people wonder why "The Nations Editor" is so obsessive about real names>

https://medium.com/@freddiedeboer/planet-of-cops-8917cfc01fc9

[ScenesFromTheApocalypse]

re: DonB

"In another example of the left loosing any semblance of balance twitter censored Eric Trumps retweet...etc"

A perfect example of the soft civil war that is going on. Team Blue largely owns the media, and most of the media is an oligopoly depending on the transport mechanism. A combination of universal surveillance with realtime feedback on 'news' sites allows people to be programmed in practically any way you want. Gin up a 'Russia' controversy and bango, the useful idiots spew forth their wisdom. Just follow the money.

As an obscure German said, "What is truth? For the multitude, that which it continually reads and hears."

[Don Bessee]

Time to break the piggy bank ya po' ol' fakenewsman. ATT is going to sell CNN to take the stink off the Time Warner merger. Given what a pos the Clinton news network is you should be able to pick it up for what's rattling around in you coin jar, they would probably take Canadian quarters too. Get your bid in early fakenewsman. ;-)

[Bill Tozer]

Quotes of the day:

"Maybe we’ll make a carve-out in the [RAISE Act] that says The New York Times can hire all the low-skilled, less-paid workers they want from other countries, and see how you feel then about low-wage substitution.” —Stephen Miller to NY Times’ Glenn Thrush

[Bill Tozer]

More quotes...er...Opps. That Stephen Miller is a nice addition.

https://patriotpost.us/articles/50617

[Walt]

WE know the Left is really hurting for some voter bait. Nothing is off limits at this point.
Remember the "you didn't build that"? Well I don't put it past them to take credit for this.
http://www.breitbart.com/economics/2017/08/04/1-million-jobs/

"YES, WE did that.. He didn't"

[Bonnie McGuire]

Dr. Rebane, I want to thank you and all the commenters here for their opinions. It's very interesting, funny and educational. I love to read what others have to say...and this is one of the best.

[Bill Tozer]

Let's see here. Who voted for whom 8 years ago? Now, who slobberes daily over the one he voted against 8 years ago? A great mystery I tell ya. Whoever voted for that guy 8 years ago because of the color of his skin is a true blue bona-fied racist. All those fakenews types are, duh.

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/898142223669334/?type=3&theater

[Don Bessee]

I have to heartily endorse the rumor that the stud of 73 easting may become the new Afghan alpha dog. ;-)

[Bill Tozer]

A sad tale.

https://patriotpost.us/articles/50590

[Walt]

Naaa,, No voter fraud. Then can Paul and friends explain this? "More voters than people in these Ca. counties.
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/08/05/judicial-watch-warns-california-11-counties-voters-voting-age-citizens/

No wonder the Left is screaming like a raped ape about Trump's voter role investigations.

[L]

Making Mexico pay for the wall is trivially simple. Instate a 15% withholding on all remittances to Mexico. Don't owe it? Get it back by filing a tax return. Presto.

Now, libs, tell us how unfair that is.

L

[L]

Might even pay for some of the damaged infrastructure as well...

[Paul Emery]

Dong alert at Fox !!!!!

And to think this man was one of the reporter for Fox when Weiner man emailed his dong shots.

"Eric Bolling, a longtime Fox News host, sent an unsolicited photo of male genitalia via text message to at least two colleagues at Fox Business and one colleague at Fox News, a dozen sources told HuffPost.

Recipients of the photo confirmed its contents to HuffPost, which is not revealing their identities. The women, who are Bolling’s current and former Fox colleagues, concluded the message was from him because they recognized his number from previous work-related and informal interactions. The messages were sent several years ago, on separate occasions.

When asked whether Bolling at any point had sent unsolicited lewd or inappropriate text messages or emails (including an image of a man’s genitalia) to Fox News or Fox Business colleagues, his attorney Michael J. Bowe responded, “Mr. Bolling recalls no such inappropriate communications, does not believe he sent any such communications, and will vigorously pursue his legal remedies for any false and defamatory accusations that are made.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/eric-bolling-fox-news-text-messages_us_5984d2bbe4b0cb15b1be6d65?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

[Walt]

Calfire is notorious for scapegoating when it comes to fire origin. If you really want to see a doozy, and I mean a real, movie worthy conspiracy - check out the Moonlight Fire. They got caught red-handed.

Judge orders Cal Fire to pay $30 million for ‘reprehensible conduct’ in Moonlight Fire Case
http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/cal...le2590556.html

A wildfire of corruption
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.28e5fe6a6e0d

You'd have to read 20+ articles to learn all the sordid details and subplots.

Bottom line: Calfire will scapegoat for gain, political, monetary or otherwise. And determining a wildfire's origin and cause is a major crapshoot, you'd have better luck finding Bigfoot.

Blame it on a gun,, or a bulldozer.(that just happened to be in the aria)

[Walt]

LOL paul,, more "un-named sources". And right on the heals of this.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/04/media-matters-is-coming-for-sean-hannitys-advertisers-and-his-job/
And leave it to you to take the bait.

[George Rebane]

re PaulE 1228pm - It is always a happy moment for me to witness the unfettered joy which some commenters gleefully demonstrate when they can find and share some affirming content somewhere on the web.

[Todd Juvinall]

The left has figured out a way to destroy those on the right. This is now the fourth one? At least Hannity fought them off and defeated them. Bolling will as well. Besides have you ever seen his wife? Gorgeous woman. Anyway, the internet and cell phones allow he scumbags to hack and defame. It is BS Paul but you can roll in the pooh all you want as that is where you seem to like it.

[Walt]

If you can't get past a paywall,
http://wildfiretoday.com/2014/02/06/judge-orders-cal-fire-to-pay-30-million-for-conduct-in-moonlight-fire-case/
Read just how dirty CALFIRE was. And the award to a LIB "nonprofit". And "donate"22.5 thousand acres to the USFS.

It makes that forced fire fee we were paying look like chump change.

[Shhhh!]

Candidate Trump was thankful for Wikileaks and hoped Russians could help him find Hillary's missing emails that Fredo Trump was looking for.
Now he doesn't seem to like Trumpilieaks. Why?

[George Rebane]

Shhh 101pm - Did you ever consider that the two kinds of leaks are of totally different kinds, origins, and importance to the security of our nation? Or is a leak is a leak is a ... ?

[Shhhh!]

Wikileaks and the other leakers of sensitive national security intelligence probably laugh at the stuff coming out of the White House. Team Trump primarily does not like being caught with their pants down so they want to make a federal case out of it.
Trump was for it before he was against it.

[Steve Frisch]

The left has figured out a way to destroy those on the right. This is now the fourth one? At least Hannity fought them off and defeated them. Bolling will as well. Besides have you ever seen his wife? Gorgeous woman. Anyway, the internet and cell phones allow he scumbags to hack and defame. It is BS Paul but you can roll in the pooh all you want as that is where you seem to like it.

Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 05 August 2017 at 12:47 PM

Seriously a guys texts pictures of his dick to his coworkers and you think the left has figured out how to destroy talkers on the right? Perhaps they shouldn't text people pictures of their dicks. But he must be OK cause he has a hot wife.

[Todd Juvinall]

Of course, no proof and anonymous sources is your bag Frischie. You are a typical salacious lib. Nothing to see here.

[George Rebane]

Shhh 141pm - I take that to mean that in your ontology all leaks are created equal. It does simplify things.

[Walt]

Hay Steve. Things worked out GREAT for the buttsore Leftys that ditched FOX. Who still has employment somewhere? M. Kelly was the highest paid chick in news. Now she's out of a job.
Her crappy ratings are second only to Paul's.

[Paul Emery]

George

In your view were Daniel Ellsberg (Pentagon Papers) and Deep Throat (Watergate) leakers that should have been prosecuted ?

[Gregory]

Frischie 122pm 04 Aug

"The fact that almost no one here can do that, or for that matter EVER admit when they are wrong, just demonstrates the low level of character and confidence most possess.

But no one posses a lower character or temperament that you Greg, you are the saddest excuse for a man I have ever seen. Todd has an excuse, he has an IQ of about 90, you have no excuse."

I know you are but what am I? And here just a day or two ago I stood corrected about the mistaken tat on Ms. Hodge (and, I should mention, I was not denigrating her for it). It just took a challenge from someone else. Give it a try, Steve.

Here's a doozy of yours. over at Crabb's:

Steve Frisch says:
May 14, 2017 at 9:25 am

There were absolutely no “personal insults” in my 3:35 am post. I never pointed to any specific ‘person’, I did not direct it at an individual and I critiqued left and right equally.

The response was directed at me by name, did not address the broader content, chose instead to address one minor sub-point of the case made by the WEF, pointed out a spelling error as an implied critique, and included the statement , “…a steaming heap of self serving crap …” without backing up your opinion with any cited sources, references or even a logical train of thought.

And what was that 3:35am post of yours, Steven? The one that Crabb skipped over to warn me about personal insults? That you posted in the middle of the night?

Steve Frisch says:
May 14, 2017 at 3:35 am

I almost added a caveat to this little essay, that I fully expected a small minded troll who views the world through a lens of self appointed intellectual superiority and a single minded jihadist focus on climate change, would find the spelling error. Oh, BTW, “worshiping at the altar of Smith…” wasn’t referring to you. I was really thinking way behind the tiny world of Goodknight.

I am amazed every time you comment at just how small you are.

Just to help your reading comprehension, Steve, I boldfaced the parts of your 3:35am that were personal attacks.

I really am amazed every time you throw a tantrum like that just how small you are, Steven Frisch, CEO of the wretchedly misnamed rent seeking Sierra Business Council.

[George Rebane]

PaulE 231pm - Yes. Ellsberg's prosecution was screwed up by the government, and Deep Throat (then Associate FBI Director Mark Felt) should also have been prosecuted for abrogating his oath of office. Both men acted criminally violating laws that were in force then and now. It's interesting to note that the Left's hero Ellsberg also supports Wikileaks, Chelsea Manning, and Edward Snowden.

[Todd Juvinall]

I would feel like Frisch if I could not see my feet too. LOL! And his IQ I have read somewhere was 87.

[Gregory]

Todd, the average SAT nowadays for 'Frisco State is 1050, a little below the average for people who end up with 4 year degrees. Assuming little Stevie Frisch had an 1050 in his day, that might indicate he's a dead average 105 IQ as, back in those days, MENSA accepted a 1250 SAT for its required 125 IQ. They do not accept any score from the current test which, although it is still normalized to match the IQ curve, the newer tests no longer have a good correlation to an innate reasoning ability. It's now an Achievement test, not an Aptitude test.

Todd, I do think Steve is a tad smarter than you are. But you have chosen better in a number of life's aspects, like not being arrested for DUI or 'borrowing' a quarter of a million bucks from the State and Feds without their consent.

[Todd Juvinall]

Smarter? Oh maybe, maybe not. I suggest his life is one of frustration and loneliness while mine has been exciting and full of adventure. So he can be "smarter" in say book reading and spellimng but I'll take my great life way before his. And yes I have never been arrested for anything and I never snorted coke.

[Gregory]

Frisch?
Frisch?
Frisch?
Frisch?

[Don Bessee]

Now come on guys, Frisch started the I am smarter crap but declines to really compare who has the bigger, er, aaa number. ;-)

[Steve Frisch]

And Bolland is out...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/eric-bolling-sexual-harassment-allegations_us_59865320e4b0cb15b1beebc6?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

And another Fox host bites the dust.

It's true Todd, they are not sure the dick that Bolland texted is his.

[Gregory]

"a small minded troll who views the world through a lens of self appointed intellectual superiority" -Frisch, on moi

Don, I think Frisch is a wounded soul who resents being pounded again and again by a "denier" who keeps landing blows despite Frisch's tithing and fealty to the Church of Our Lady of the Presumptuous Assumption, the IPCC. And, after once again projecting his own behaviors in his 122pm yesterday, pointed out explicitly in my 235m today he seems faced with a choice similar to that of a Christian Scientist with appendicitis.

I suspect I've earned Frisch's suspicion that I'm smarter than he is. Self appointed? Meh!

So, does Frisch find his inner mensch and retract and apologize for his posts here recently (not to mention his tantrum at Crabb's that led to me getting tossed out by the Crabbman), or will he just tie one on and go to sleep drunk as a skunk a'gin? Time will tell.

[Todd Juvinall]

I think the pictures were the one's the TSA dames took of me and digitized them. World famous. LOL!

[Gregory]

Frisch?
Frisch?
Frisch?
Frisch?

C'mon, guy, everyone already knows what a putz you were to sling that particular mud at everyone but yourself. Admit it. You'll feel better about yourself and this great wonderful world we have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21LGv8Cf0us

[Todd Juvinall]

All those people at FOX are studs and babes. The other networks are jealous and are setting them up. They even stole Megan Kelly away and she said Ailes harassed her. This is the new McCarthy tactic and the liberals are practicing it well.

[Walt]

Todd. All the FOX turncoats are now pretty much unemployed. Those fake harassment charges worked out swell.
There always will be a pretty face and a nice set of boobs to take their places.
Kelly will be thinking the Naked News looks pretty good.

[Don Bessee]

I suspect you are right Gregory, Frisch would not have likely made the IQ cut since he has continued to duck the issue. Maybe Al Gore can give a brother a break and share some carbon credits with Steve to make him feel better about not making the cut. ;-)

[Steve Frisch]

:) I'm really not ducking the issue....I'm laughing.

[Todd Juvinall]

Laughing again? My my, such a lowbrow uncouth person.

[Bill Tozer]

Whose laughing now?

https://www.facebook.com/terminallance/photos/a.10151890960303608.1073741826.371652628607/10155479544428608/?type=3&theater

Ok, let's pick on somebody else.

https://www.facebook.com/terminallance/photos/a.10151890960303608.1073741826.371652628607/10155479544428608/?type=3&theater

Well, a private enterprise can run their business anyway they want...as long as it is lawful. I don't believe in telling FB what to do, but I do get the sentiment expressed:

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/898595366957353/?type=3&theater

Finally, when there is a will, there is a way.

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/898588850291338/?type=3&theater

[Gregory]

Frisch 7:19pm

No Steven, you're ducking the issues.

[Paul Emery]

Then George how are we the people going to know when outr elected leaders are breaking the law? Is it not our duty to report crimes if we witness them? Without Ellsberg we would not have known about the secreat illegal war Nixon was waging in Southeast Asia and without Deep Throat Nixon could have successfully covered up his plethora of illegal activities. What would be the proper path to revealing these things if Ellsberg adn Deep throat would have been prosecuted?

[Paul Emery]

Another one bites the dust

http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2017/08/05/fox-news-bolling-suspended-lewd-messages-241360

[George Rebane]

PaulE 1032pm - You're confusing Nixon with Johnson's "secret illegal war". Remember it was Nixon who ran on the promise to extract us from Vietnam, which he did by 1973. Ellsberg ratted on what was set up before Nixon. Our Associate FBI Director Mark Felt was the sleaze bag who didn't have the courage to put out the evidence against Nixon, and instead disguised himself as Deep Throat to bring Nixon down through the press. That is not the way our federal investigative agencies are supposed to work if they have evidence of politicians' wrong doings.

But if you like what Ellsberg and Felt did, then you must doubly like what Wikileaks and their sources did to the Dems since that exposed wrong doings without violating any oaths or institutional trusts. And even more so what Team Trump subsequently did with the publicly revealed evidence.

[Don Bessee]

What is the eco warriors actual number, the world wonders? ;-)

[Bill Tozer]

Patriot or traitor? Whistleblower or leaker? The lines are drawn.

"Then George how are we the people going to know when outr elected leaders are breaking the law?"

Well, thank goodness for Right Wing sites that let us know. The election of 2016 and its aftermath has laid bare one thing for all the world to see. The major collusion was not the DNC stacking the deck against Bernie Sanders. It was not the Trump and Putin holding hands narrative. Nah, that is small potatoes in comparison.

The real nonfiction story I reference is the MSM working hand in hand 100% with the Establishment Left, the bureaucracy that runs our government, and the "deep state" to control the narrative and masses. I unabashedly declare that the MSM is in collusion with the powers to be that control and run our government, no matter what the will of the people is. MSM is nothing more than Pravda. The Department of Misinformation and purposely designed to be such. The warty tool.

So, George, how are people going to know when our elected (and appointed) officials are breaking the law? Good question. The answer will definitely NOT be coming from the 4th Estate in its present form.

The stage is being set right now. Charles Krauthammer had been warning about this lately. The damage to our nation, our Constitution Republic, may be take decades to repair. Michael Savage is not far off base here.
https://www.infowars.com/savage-civil-war-if-trump-taken-down/

Granted, if Trump committed a crime, I am all ears. But, the only thing Punchy the unknowing and unwitting (yet enthusiastic) accomplice for the Establishment offers is a conspiracy in search of a crime. Trump is a traitor! Wikileaks released stolen files! Hacked, stolen, and Immoral! An attack against the United States! Or, "We are at war", declared Sen. McCain, the guy with the brain tumor. Yes, we are at war, but not against foreign governments as such.

Hero or zero? Greater good? Is Bradly Manning a good guy or should be executed by a military firing squad? Not always black and white, yes or no. But the question remains. How can we the people know about the corrupt going ons of elected and appointed former administration officials and their cronies when our Media Establishment ignores, squelches, squashes, turns a blind eye, and sits on stories that they deem damaging to their true agenda?
Welcome to Pravda, made in America. Our only hope is sources outside the control of Fakesnews Agenda.

[Bill Tozer]

Disclaimer: to me, Alex Jones is a mixed bag. Akin to Glen Beck. Spot on on some things with piercing deep insights, and off base on other things. Alex Jones lost me on Sandy Hook being fake. Ironically he was reading from the same script I heard on KVMR. Be that as it may, I will continue with this news:

https://www.infowars.com/australia-bans-jewish-synagogue-citing-terrorist-risk-to-general-public/

The tactics are becoming clear. Whether banning the construction of a synagogue in Australia due to security concerns, barring speakers on college campus due to security concerns, or labeling an Islamic terrorist in Europe an "Asian" due to security concerns, the movement is global and effective. Disguised as fighting against "hate speech" or disguised as "security concerns" for what MIGHT be a security concern to those who in reality oppose contrary r minority views, the march towards tyranny continues on...in democracies across the globe. They are not even trying to conceal it anymore.

[L]

BroGeo @ 22:47 masterful! L
ditto, BT @ 23:57 good stuff.

[Bill Tozer]

Update to 11:57 pm...

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/emails-show-washington-post-new-york-times-reporters-unenthusiastic-about-covering-clinton-lynch-meeting/article/2630650

[ScenesFromTheApocalypse]

re: The Paul

"Without Ellsberg we would not have known about the secret illegal war Nixon was waging in Southeast Asia"

The full title for the Pentagon Papers:

"United States – Vietnam Relations, 1945–1967: A Study Prepared by the Department of Defense"

lol. Nixon. This is why there's no point in the argument to begin with. I have a funny feeling that Mr. Emery has never read a single page of the publication, it has just become some sort of mythical tome that exposes evil Republican doings. Come on, 'fess up, you don't have the slightest idea what the contents are. I'm sure that mad googling is to follow.

On more current matters, I saw an interesting point on Reddit. If the intelligence community can't find the leaks, what's the point of the intelligence community?

[Steve Frisch]

Posted by: Gregory | 05 August 2017 at 09:49 PM

I'm ducking what issue shitheel? The issue of Todd constantly supporting men who behave like pigs if they are Republicans? Yep boys, it is clearly a conspiracy to destroy conservative men by getting them to text pictures of their junk. Because that is the issue I posted on....everything else is a diversion from my original post :)

[ScenesFromTheApocalypse]

re: SteveF@5:35AM (and good morning to everyone who gets up at a proper time).

"Yep boys, it is clearly a conspiracy to destroy conservative men by getting them to text pictures of their junk."

Meh. Both sides of the aisle have plenty of lecherous fools.

This whole business of tarring a political party or philosophy because some semi-prominent member picked up a prostitute or sent junk mail is pretty boring. The kind of hand wringing that goes on with sex scandals hopefully will die off over time. Just imagine a JFK, LBJ, or even Bill Clinton with the total surveillance of both government and individual cell phones now available.

The real danger in all of this is now that the 17 intelligence agencies are making a play for more control of the rudder, just imagine what they have on absolutely everybody. That is a serious business and I don't see it getting better.

[ScenesFromTheApocalypse]

Yee-haw! Let's ride this baby into the ground!

http://www.dailywire.com/news/19369/california-state-system-will-no-longer-force-elliott-hamilton

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-cal-state-remedial-requirements-20170803-story.html

[Todd Juvinall]

Oh Stevie, I support people who are real men and are unjustly accused. Seen that ploy all my life and seen many real men get destroyed. The media will destroy a conservative man in a heartbeat and allow the country to go under if it was their choice to go after a liberal scofflaw and let the Bill Clinton's get away with something simillar. But you would not recognize real men, would you? The metrosexual males like you are so PC you can't even stand up against something wrong like this. Oh well, at least I can see my feet.

[Bill Tozer]

Scenes @ 7:11 am.

Wow. Stop the pressses! I had to read it twice to see if your links were from The Onion. Another nail in the coffin.

"Having so many students start their freshman year being told that they are already behind and giving them just one year to dig themselves out also doesn't help foster a sense of social or academic belonging, officials said."

DARN IT SCENES. I can't even come up with a snide remark. This one leaves me both speechless and speech less. A silver lining for the reader.

[Gregory]

Frisch 535

Shitheel? I had to look that one up... is that racist slur something you learned in Chicago, growing up (or at least pretending to grow up)?

http://www.racialslurs.com/slur/shitheel

No, in this sandbox thread the issue was your hypocrisy.

Personally, I think it's wrong to send pictures of genitalia to any associates at one's place of work. It's also arguably wrong to make such charges years after the event.

[Todd Juvinall]

Frisch used a racist term! Wow! Do as I say, not as I do. What poopfoot.

[Bill Tozer]

In a related story to Scene's 7:11 am, "No Dummy Left Behind":

National Review’s Robert VerBruggen explains, “It would end the diversity lottery and preferences for family members aside from spouses, minor children, and elderly parents in need of care. And it would put those seeking green cards on the basis of employment — 140,000 of which would be available annually, the same number as today — through a new point system similar to those used in other developed countries.” That point system would evaluate “their level of education, their English fluency, their age (with ten points for those 26 to 30 and zero points for those 50 and up), and the salary they’ve been offered.” The one downside is that it deliberately reduces the number of immigrants, which is odd if we’d be getting more desirable immigrants.

"It’s probably fair to say the repeal and replacement of ObamaCare had a better chance of passing than does the RAISE Act. "

https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost

[Bill Tozer]

Scenes again, @ 6:12 am.

Scenes, you are killing it. The early bird gets the worm.

Nice way of putting it. Seeing the forest from the bark beetle infested teee. No, not the "Pentegon Papers" that shows Punchy's complete and utter ignorance on which he speaks (@ 5:29 am), nor the shocking issue of powerful men texting pictures of what's behind the fig leaf (@ 6:12 AM), but your putting it all into perspective in the grand scheme of things.

"The real danger in all of this is now that the 17 intelligence agencies are making a play for more control of the rudder, just imagine what they have on absolutely everybody. That is a serious business and I don't see it getting better."
Posted by: ScenesFromTheApocalypse | 06 August 2017 at 06:12 AM

https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913.80726.51560645913/10154951954015914/?type=3&theater

Always a silver lining.

[Walt]

This is where the Paul goes back to demanding Trump's taxes. (something he has no real interest in reading either.)

[Steve Frisch]

An alternative....http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shitheel

[Walt]

Only a LIB could come up with this "peace symbol". I know... Hitler was just misunderstood.
http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/US-T-shirt-company-sells-swastika-design-as-symbol-of-love-and-peace-501687

[Gregory]

Frisch 906

Shitheel? I had to look that one up... is that racist slur something you learned in Chicago, growing up (or at least pretending to grow up)?

http://www.racialslurs.com/slur/shitheel

No, in this sandbox thread the issue was your hypocrisy.

[Bill Tozer]

Walt @ 9:01 am:

Dunno. Think this is where he goes back to the unassailable fact that the Rooskies cheered the election results in a building they knew full well was bugged, proof certain that Putin's boys and his hot hotv lady spies interfered successfully with our election and results. Nothing to do with that silly rumor floating around about the Democrat Party's favored candidate being under two criminal investigations, yet still made the decision to run for President of these here United States anyway. :). It fits the narrative perfectly and explains everything you need to know why the liberals lost.

Why, why, why did the Russians cheer?

https://youtu.be/pddW-HeHAwo

Some folks don't rejection kindly.

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/898594426957447/?type=3&theater

[Bill Tozer]

Well, another he said, she said type of thing. I do not want to cast judgement on either the accused nor the accuser at this preminilary time. Let the chips fall where they may.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/08/eric-bolling-accuser-anti-trump-professor-also-accused-bill-oreilly/

In other totally unrelated news, teaching shop classes has come a long way. Again, let the chips fall where they may.

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/899055740244649/?type=3&theater

[Todd Juvinall]

BillT the babe also accused Bill Oreilly. So my guess is she is a slut and has little self-control. She came onto them and set them up for her own jollies and probably for Nancy Pelosi and Blabbermouth.

[Gregory]

" So my guess is she is a slut and has little self-control. She came onto them and set them up for her own jollies and probably for Nancy Pelosi and Blabbermouth."

My estimate of your IQ just dropped 10 points, Todd.

[Todd Juvinall]

Screw you Gregory. Get a sense of humor.

[Gregory]

Todd, it wasn't funny.

[Bill Tozer]

Todd: Let's just see how this plays out. Doubt it will ever see a court of law, so we will never know. Settlements usually have "no do speak of such matters" clauses. Yes, she accused Bill O'Reily just a couple hours before he got dismissed, not the days and weeks of rumors, accusations, and innuendos leading up to O'Reily's dismissal. That looks bad, but looks bad only at first glance.

If Eric B pulled an Anthony Weiner, one who think there is evidence. If it happened several ago, then it might be her words against his without the smoking gun, pun intended. Neither of us know for sure at this moment in time.

She is an attractive women, the look that Fox News perfers to hire. If the glove don't fit, one must acquit. Or, be found guilty in the court of public opinion.

The story is not all that big in my opinion. Politically motivated? Who knows. Did it happen? Who knows. Could it have happened? You bet. The last thing we want to do is excoriate Eric or the accuser(s) at this moment in time. All men and women have feet of clay.

Let's not pull a Punchy and connect random dots to a false conclusion. Why did the Russians cheer Trump's stunning upset win? Why did the Russians cheer Hillary's loss? Why, why, why? It's proof! No, we wait and see. If the good professor is a slut, that still has little bearing on unwanted (unwelcome) sexual advances/ dirty pictures she may or may not encountered at Fox. Apples and oranges.

As Gregory used to say, correlation does not mean causation. I do understand knee jerk responses and can sympathize with them.....a thing that I have been certainly guilty of. "Liberals are stupid!" for example.

Or, as Milo said, SJWs push for free birth control because it gives them an excuse to be sluts. He is a funny guy, but not everyone appreciates his quips.

My definitions of a ho or slut is simple: Anybody that wants to do it again when I don't, or anybody that wants it more than I do. Take your pick. :).

[Bill Tozer]

Boy, Scenes opened the day with good posts, but noooo. Sex sales. Well, it is the Sandbox, is it not?

https://www.facebook.com/ChicksOnTheRight/photos/a.205470340493.271404.195530355493/10159150744445494/?type=3&theater

[Walt]

OK dopers,, get the excuse machine humming.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/toxic-waste-u-pot-farms-alarms-experts-100944016.html

[Todd Juvinall]

Gregory, it was funny and sorry you are lacking a sense of humor or irony. Using the tactics of the opposition to mock them is above your pay grade I guess. And you attacked me personally so I assume then you are fair game. You need to realize who is on your side. If you don't then I am sad for you.

[Todd Juvinall]

Bill Tozer | 06 August 2017 at 11:07 AM

I watched and listened to her a few times when she was on. She came across as a man hating feminist. She is attractive and my guess is she was a plant by the feminists to take out those guys. Pretty shrewd. Anyway, Bolling and O'Reilly are too powerful to let alone to the left. You watch and see all the BS tossed at them and FOX. It is the new strategy.

[Bill Tozer]

Could be, Todd. They are after everything to the right of Maxine Waters, and is part of an overall tactic to achieve a goal: Fox must go. Drudge must go. Like buttons on FB must go if the link is tied to conservatives....especially pro-lifers. Bubba whined about Fox, then Obama started in during his first month in office and then got more jabs in as he was leaving for a better paying gig. Well, at least Fox took the heat off of Limbaugh.
Guess I did not grasp you were being facetious. Strike that. I did not grasp you were being facetious. Better. No worries.

[Todd Juvinall]

My view is we have to stick together on the right. The left is winning when we attack our side. Funny or not.

[Gregory]

Todd, making crap up about people like that is so very not cool. That person never did anything to you, slandering them with or without a nudge, nudge or some sort of emoji does not help you get back at your nemeses. It does not make you even.

"My view is we have to stick together on the right"

I'm not right wing, Todd, and your antics do not help the folks you think should stick together.

[Todd Juvinall]

Take a break Gregory.

[Todd Juvinall]

My antics have elected many people here Gregory. So put a lid on it or get involved.

[Gregory]

Golly, Todd, perhaps you need a nap. Or a time out.

Chill.

[Todd Juvinall]

No I am just fine. You seem like you may need one yourself.

[Steve Frisch]

"BillT the babe also accused Bill Oreilly. So my guess is she is a slut and has little self-control. She came onto them and set them up for her own jollies and probably for Nancy Pelosi and Blabbermouth."

Exactly WTF I am talking about. :)

[Walt]

OH let this get voted on passed,, and signed.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/06/second-amendment-guarantee-act-would-protect-popular-rifles-shotguns-from-antigun-politicians/
Yup,, this would cut the balls off the gun grabbers in Sac. And how they will howl.

[Todd Juvinall]

Steve Frisch | 06 August 2017 at 03:36 PM

Dreaming are you?

[Bill Tozer]

Walt @ 11:47 am

Shocking. Alarming. Toxic waste sites on our public lands in CA. Yep, I read that article twice and my blood began to boil. I copied it and just when I went to post it around noon, I saw you beat me to it.

This unbiased link should alarm and upset all readers, no matter what side of the political aisle you are on, no matter where you fit across the entire socio-economic system, no matter what your background is.

For those who missed Walt's link, take a peek. Opening paragraph:

"Pollution from illegal marijuana farms deep in California's national forests is far worse than previously thought, and has turned thousands of acres into waste dumps so toxic that simply touching plants has landed law enforcement officers in the hospital."

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/toxic-waste-u-pot-farms-alarms-experts-100944016.html

[Don Bessee]

Ancient politically incorrect news BT. :-(

[Bill Tozer]

My my. Being a community organizer pays more than I thought. Screw the victims, give me the green!

"Instead, $3 billion of the multi-billion-dollar 2013 agreements with Citigroup and Bank of America to settle cases related to mortgage-backed securities went to community-organizing groups.

The $17 billion Bank of America deal gave the bank “extra credit” if it donated $100 million or more to activist groups approved by the Department of Housing and Urban Development.

The list included UnidosUS, which advocates for illegal immigrants; the National Community Reinvestment Coalition, a left-leaning housing lobbyist group; Operation Hope, which pushes banks to lend to unqualified mortgage applicants in Los Angeles; and the Mutual Housing Association of New York, a spinoff of the controversial community-organizing group ACORN."

http://nypost.com/2017/08/05/sessions-investigating-slush-fund-used-by-left-wing-groups/?ref=yfp