Sandbox - 11nov17

[Will Mueller follow all the Russian collusion clues, or just the ones in sync with his political preferences?  gjr]

Comments

[Paul Emery]

Pathetic Ann Coulter

"Hey Dems! JFK had an extra marital affair with 19-year old Mimi Alford when he was 45 years old."
19 is not 14 in case you don't know the law.

[fish]

Posted by: Paul Emery | 13 November 2017 at 10:42 AM

…and the intrepid "newsman" has evidence that Moore had sex with a 14 year old?

[Todd Juvinall]

Not the point Paul Emery. You libs always cover for your pals.

[Gregory]

Paul, do you think Studds deserved censure, or more, for having sex with a 17 year old male congressional page? Should he have been thrown out of the Congress?

The thing with the 14 year old does not include intercourse, Paul. If you believe the woman, there wasn't even actual contact with her fun parts or with his.

I'm unsure just what Alabama law was violated at the time. In nearby Louisiana a few years earlier, Jerry Lee Lewis' box office receipts dropped to your levels after he married his 13 year old first cousin though it's unclear if it was her age or the first cousin thing that was the biggest problem for his fans.

[Todd Juvinall]

No proof on Moore and he is up 10 points in Alabama.

[Gregory]

"First, all power generation, whether renewable or conventional, has to pay for interconnection, and the costs of interconnection of both are roughy equal, thus the cost for all power sources is leveld out of the curve"
-Frisch

No Steve, to connect a large scale but intermittent power source to the grid, you must also connect a ready to go in a fraction of a second conventionally fueled plant. That is running at the standby rate, burning fuel more or less continually. That is not "leveld [sic] out of the curve".

I get it, though. Your blindness is willful.

[Paul Emery]

Just reporting the news. More to come. New revelations shortly.

[Walt]

If that's what is considered "news" from Paul, I'm glad I get it from other sources.

[Clue-Sew]

ToddJ@11am,,,this is called proof,,,

"It was common knowledge that Roy dated high school girls, everyone we knew thought it was weird," former deputy district attorney Teresa Jones told CNN in comments aired Saturday. "We wondered why someone his age would hang out at high school football games and the mall ... but you really wouldn't say anything to someone like that."

[fish]

Posted by: Clue-Sew | 13 November 2017 at 11:56 AM

No that's called gossip Clue-Bun.

[Clue-Sew]

Probable cause,,,

"Apparent facts discovered through logical inquiry that would lead a reasonably intelligent and prudent person to believe that an accused person has committed a crime, thereby warranting his or her prosecution, or that a Cause of Action has accrued, justifying a civil lawsuit."

[George Rebane]

fish 1158am - unfortunately Mr fish, we are both wrong for consigning Clue's 1156am to gossip. In the new liberal justice system such gossip easily stands in for evidence, and serves well to indict and convict. I often forget that this is the new age of the Millennial Mindset (or was it Mini-minds?).

[Walt]

Ahh. Inspector dipshit.(bunny boy) You post proof of nothing.
One thing is for sure. The statute of limitations ran out a LONG time ago.
It's time we re-visit Bubba Clinton. He really needs to be jailed right next to Menendez. They both took flights on pediflight 1 not long ago. Forget that news?
But since LIBS (even like you) think its fine to pay off accusers.
(like with Menendez)

But keep up the substandard work "clue-less". Try another limp name.

[Clue-Sew]

Sorry guys,,,statute of limitations applies,,,no proof,,,in the legal sense,,,needed. Word of co worker should be enough,,,except for hard core deniers!!!

[fish]

Posted by: Clue-Sew | 13 November 2017 at 12:27 PM

Like I said…..gossip.

[Paul Emery]

Another one

Another woman has come forward to say that Alabama Republican Roy Moore sexually abused her when she was a teen and he was more than a decade older.

Beverly Young Nelson, who is represented by attorney Gloria Allred, told her story at a New York press conference on Monday.

Nelson, who met Moore through her job as a waitress, recalled an incident in which Moore offered to give her a ride home one night in 1977. Instead of taking her home, she said, he drove around the restaurant and assaulted her.

“I thought that he was going to rape me,” Nelson said.

After a struggle, Nelson said, Moore let her go with a threat.

“He looked at me, and he told me, ‘You’re just a child.’ And he said, ‘I am the district attorney of Etowah County, and if you tell anyone about this, no one will ever believe you,’” she added.

[Clue-Sew]

Po' ol' MyghtyFishy,,, Bill Cosby,,, WineStain,,,plenty of women coming out saying #me too,,,but your Alabama cowpoke,,,bible thumper,,,nah,,,it cannot be true!!!

[Clue-Sew]

Here ya go!!!Coal miner believers get ready!!! E- Semi rolling your way soon!!!

https://futurism.com/tesla-semi-reveal-date-elon-musk/

[fish]

Posted by: Clue-Sew | 13 November 2017 at 12:41 PM

Plenty of women are saying it happened to them…..that would be evidence…. or testimony if you prefer if given in the proper setting. Not the rambling recollections of Flo from the diner….which is what you provided earlier!

Go find you minder and she can take you back to the group home Bun.

[Walt]

Bunhole show his stupidity. " statute of limitations applies"
Then keeps right accusing. Looks like you have no idea what that is.

[Clue-Sew]

MygytyFishy,,,an assistant DA is not a random waitress,,,wow,,,you not very smart!!!

You Brain Trustees ever heard of a civil suit???

[Clue-Sew]

Walt,,,

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOJmT_mWsAIa3-6.jpg:large

[Paul Emery]

Try this for your source of news Walt from Fox

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/13/roy-moore-fights-new-sexual-assault-accusations-as-woman-claims-abuse-at-16.html

[fish]

Posted by: Clue-Sew | 13 November 2017 at 01:11 PM

You Brain Trustees ever heard of a civil suit???

Yeah……!

Like I said…..back to the group home Bun. You're overwrought!

http://statelaws.findlaw.com/alabama-law/alabama-civil-statute-of-limitations-laws.html

[Walt]

LIBS LIE... That's what they do. Funny how ALL the accusers work for, or ARE Liberals. The butthurt runs deep with LIBS, and the "by any means necessary" is working overtime.
It's good to see the voters see through the LIB game.

[Clue-Sew]

Ya Walt,,, it must be fake news if you ran out of excuses for your Boy Cowboy!!!

[Clue-Sew]

LIBS,,,LIBS,,,LIBS,,,LIBS,,,LIBS,,,LIBS,,,LIBS,,,LIBS,,,

https://i.imgflip.com/1ynpd3.jpg

[Todd Juvinall]

How many phony complaints were lodged against Trump in the race last year? And all have gone away because they were made up. Sorry Paul Emery, until there is proof all these lefty women are not going to be believed. Maybe Alabama will not send him to DC and the goal of the left will be achieved.

[Walt]

Still no evidence "clue-less". A 40 year old accusation is pure BS.
Hell! You don't even understand what the "statute of limitations" means. You post proves that. If you did, you would have shut up already. You are one dumb Proggy.

[Don Bessee]

We all knew this was coming, thanks Rachel Donzel. ;-)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/11/13/transracial-man-born-white-says-he-feels-filipino/858043001/

[Walt]

Yup,, ALL BS!! Gloria Allred is now in the picture. She only rears her ugly head when fabrications are in jeopardy.

[Walt]

The heat is back on.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/11/13/juanita-broaddrick-slams-chelsea-handler-was-raped-by-bill-clinton.html

It's not rape when Bill does it,,, Right "clue-less"?

[Walt]

Steve.. Your SO full of,,, brown stuff.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/13/a-plan-to-replace-californias-last-nuclear-plant-with-green-energy-may-backfire/

“There is no reason to approve a $1.3 billion rate increase for a proposal that will most likely either fail to achieve its goal or will achieve a goal not worth reaching,” Allen wrote in his decision issued in early November.

So much for "paying us to use power".

Replacing Diablo Canyon wasn’t supposed to be cheap either. Replacing the nuclear plant with solar energy, for example, could cost $15 billion based on current prices, according to Bloomberg Intelligence.
So count on it costing double.

[Todd Juvinall]

Walt, you are so right about that woman hiring Allred. She brings the issue into clarity. The left will bring forth as many women liars as it takes to destroy Moore. Funny how Paul Emery defends Bill Clinton as do the left. But hopefully, the voters of Alabama will send the right person to the DC swamp.

[Gregory]

"First, all power generation, whether renewable or conventional, has to pay for interconnection, and the costs of interconnection of both are roughy equal, thus the cost for all power sources is leveld out of the curve"
-Frisch

No Steve, to connect a large scale but intermittent power source to the grid, you must also connect a ready to go in a fraction of a second conventionally fueled plant. That is running at the standby rate, burning fuel more or less continually. That is not "leveld [sic] out of the curve".

Frisch?
Frisch?
Frisch?
Frisch?
Frisch? ...

[Clue-Sew]

Funny how Roy '''Rogers''' Moore's accusers are all leftys according to the local Brain Trust here... Youse guys are SO smart,,,you are prescient!!!

Do we know how Bill Cosby votes??? Do we care??? NOOOO!!!

WineStain was the catalyst that opened the floodgates of testimony by women,,, about Kevin Spacey,,,Roy Moore,,,and many others,,,

Deal with it!!!

[Clue-Sew]

Trumper,,,Berner,,,Hillarybot,,,who did he vote for??? Who cares???

http://www.theunion.com/trending/marysville-police-chief-out-following-sexual-assault-investigation/

[fish]

Posted by: Clue-Sew | 13 November 2017 at 03:35 PM

Relax Doug…..dry your cotton pickin Colonel Sanders tears…..the evidence is starting to pile up on your side!

[Paul Emery]

Todd, Walt

If you were in a position to vote would you vote for Roy Moore over Democrat Doug Jones even if the allegations against him were true?

[Walt]

No asswipe, We know full well the nevertrump losers are in on it to.
That's why they are not running for re-election.

Now it's your turn Bunclueless to join the "me too" ranks.
I'm sure there is someone out there with deep pockets from way back when you could point a finger at and say " he touched me..."

[Walt]

Yup, I would vote for Moore, I believe this is all bogus.
Waiting 40 years to "come forward" is a joke. If you can wait 40 years, you can just take it to your grave as far as I'm concerned.

I' sure you would vote for Hillary despite the allegations. What's a little treason between Socialists?

[Todd Juvinall]

Thank the powers that got Allred involved. She is always representing these women that lie. And she trained her daughter to do the same for Weinstein. My goodness, she and her daughter and their leftwing ilk are so crooked it hurts. Anyway, all are libs bunny and they all voted for Hillary.

As far as voting? I have a longtime friend from Alabama who attended the livhoen Saturday in A Birmingham suburb. He says it is a swamp attempt to take out Moore and the people of the state will not and do not believe it.

If Moore was proven to be what these harpies say? I would not vote for either.

[Walt]

You claim to be a news man Paul,, yet not a peep from you on this.
(like the rest of LIB media.. Protect your own)
http://www.dailywire.com/news/20982/multiple-democrats-currently-involved-child-sex-ryan-saavedra#

[Walt]

Get a rope!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/11/harassment-case-puts-democratic-senate-candidate-in-california-under-spotlight.html

[Steve Frisch]

I am just tickled pink to watch Todd defending a creepy chid molesting bible thumping self righteous rignt wing blowhard. While every sane person is running from Moore like a man with typhus Todd is wrapping his long arms around him like a bro.

[fish]

Posted by: Steve Frisch | 13 November 2017 at 04:36 PM

Why does it sound like you are far more offended at the "Bible Thumping" than the "child molesting"?

[Todd Juvinall]

Steve Frisch | 13 November 2017 at 04:36 PM

Not defending Moore simply see the injustice of the accusations. Innocent until proven guilty. Just like I did not condemn Steve Frisch for stealing the employee's taxes until the government came in and made him pay them back.

[Steve Frisch]

Goodnight?
Goodnight?
Goodnight?
Goodnight?
Goodnight?
Goodnight?

Yes?

"..to connect a large scale but intermittent power source to the grid, you must also connect a ready to go in a fraction of a second conventionally fueled plant."

That is juat patently false...the interconnection report is merely a report. There is no requirement to install back up power for each an every renewable source....and frankly the whole leveling issue is diminishng as more renewables come on line in more variety.

BTW, ever commision and interconnection report, or work on power procurement? I have :)

I mean really, you guys would just rather pollute even if renewabes are cheaper just out of vanity wouldn't you?

[Todd Juvinall]

Gregory gas ate your lunch on your post Frisch. Give it up, admit he bested you and go back to the bar.

[Steve Frisch]

Todd, why are you posting in the afternoon? I figured you would be napping so you could stay up to watch Real Housewives at 9 pm.

[Walt]

Isn't tax dodging a felony?
"Any person who willfully attempts to evade or defeat any tax imposed by this title or the payment thereof shall, in addition to other penalties provided by law, be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof: Shall be imprisoned not more than 5 years."

Why,,, YES it IS!!!

[Steve Frisch]

Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 13 November 2017 at 04:43 PM

Because I love it when a self righteous moralist gets caught with his dick in a watermelon.

[Walt]

You did despicable things to a watermelon Steve?
That's one sick puppy.

[Steve Frisch]

Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 13 November 2017 at 04:43 PM

At least I paid every last dime of my deinquent taxes. Speaking of self righteous moralists, I see you are still in default to Nevada County for your property taxes.

(Which seems ironic for a guys who's one claim to fame was being a Nevada County Supervisor)

Seems like you are perpetually in default, as oposed to me who has been clean as whistle for years almost 2 decades now :)

[Paul Emery]

Didn't vote for Hillary Walt. So you would vote for Moore even if the allegations proved to be true. You sould support a child molester over a Democrat. Amazing

[Paul Emery]

This has turned into a gusher

"In a report by The New Yorker, multiple locals claimed they remember Moore being banned from The Gadsen Mall when he was the assistant district attorney to Etowah County “because he repeatedly badgered teen-age girls.” Two of the women who accused Moore of dating them when they were teens and he in his 30’s said they met him at that mall.

The claims come from a variety of sources — “five members of the local legal community, two cops who worked in the town, several people who hung out at the mall in the early eighties, and a number of former mall employees” — and many said they’d heard “rumors” about why he wasn’t welcome at the mall. A number spoke on the condition of anonymity, though a few went on record.

Greg Legat, a former employee at the mall, recalled an interaction with J.D. Thomas, a Gadsen police officer and security guard who told him to keep an eye out for Moore, who was already banned by the time Legat began working at the mall in 1981. He said he believes Moore was banned from the mall around 1979.

“‘If you see Roy, let me know. He’s banned from the mall.’” Legat told The New Yorker of his exchange with the security guard. “’If you see Moore here, tell me. I’ll take care of him.'” Legat also said his supervisor at the mall told him to watch out for Moore........"

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/locals-say-roy-moore-was-banned-from-the-gadsen-mall-in-the-70s-for-repeatedly-hitting-on-teen-girls/

[fish]

Posted by: Paul Emery | 13 November 2017 at 05:06 PM

Well hell Punch……it looks like you finally may have nabbed one!

[Walt]

You have proof Paul? Show it. Now just how did you say that a while back? "no conviction, no crime",,? Today,, there is no EVIDENCE,, NO CRIME. If accusations is all it takes, then why is Clinton still walking the streets to molest again? I know,, Clintons don't go to jail.

Now what about all the LIBS in SAC accused of improprieties? You LIBS are REAL quiet on that. As usual, it's OK when you guys do it.

[fish]

Posted by: Walt | 13 November 2017 at 05:18 PM

It probably doesn't matter Walt. Winds have shifted…..and really if what is now coming to light is true he isn't what you want in a senator.

I mean….you're not a progressive democrat….you have standards……cough….Bob Menendez…..cough!

[Bill Tozer]

Re: The Mean Green Munching Machine.
Wind and solar is just a simple matter of storage, eh? Great. You just turned a two car garage into a one car garage. Got any other grand ideas?

1) The whole problem of solar as it stands currently is it just too damn bulky. Racks of batteries in the garage like it Is some backup to keep Comcast up or the ICU going at the hospital when the power goes out for too long? Yep, it’s all too bulky right now. Panels need to be lighter, at least 40-60% smaller and twice the efficiently for starters, batteries thin as a pizza stacked comfortly in the laundry closet like Secretary of State Clinnton’s private server, and....as an option,through some curves on the solar panel design. Yeah, there goes the extra room in the garage. Call in “storage”, I call it those big heavy VCR’s when the first came out or those old bulky heavy microwave nukers that had more chrome on them than an old Hudson. Tell me when I can open my eyes and you’can yell “Surprise!”
https://youtu.be/NxhzahiQshQ

2). Crabb done good. Yo, Punchy, when does a cucumber become a pickle? Some have crossed that line. Irevesible and Progressive. Sad to see it happened. You could have been a contender.

http://www.theunion.com/opinion/r-l-crabb-it-takes-a-village-idiot-223/

[Bill Tozer]

Now this is just not right. Ain’t right, I say. Guess we know what they will ban next.

http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Man-mugged-of-mandolin-and-beaten-with-it-in-SF-12354270.php#item-39786

[Todd Juvinall]

Oh Steve Frisch, you stole the employees' money. I have never done that. And sure I am a minority partner in a vacant piece of land that I and my partner are paying taxes on. All public information anyway. It is one of many pieces and all are current. But I never took employees hard earned money for my own and then got liened by local, state and federal. How the heck people trust you to run a "non-profit" is beyond me.

[Todd Juvinall]

Paul Emery | 13 November 2017 at 05:06 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! Jeeze this is cracking me up. Seems there might be a police report or two? My guess is this is well orchestrated. The man is a Vietnam Vet and even Paul Emery a "vet" is throwing him under the bus.

[Bill Tozer]

When does the madness stop. Not a war hero! Oh, say it ain’t so. Must have been PTSD related.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/john-mccain-affair-allegations-absolutely-not-true-article-1.310334

Happy B-Day Devil Dogs.

[fish]

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 13 November 2017 at 06:13 PM

She began as a secretary but quickly moved up the ranks, becoming a partner in just eight years.

Yeah I'd expect to make partner in a hurry too if I had to "make the beast with two backs" with Senator McCain as part of my job.

Elementary education major indeed….

[fish]

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 13 November 2017 at 06:00 PM

They caught the crime on video Bill….lets watch!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqpNQ9AJYgU

[Gregory]

"BTW, ever commision [sic] and [sic] interconnection report, or work on power procurement? I have :)"
-Frisch

Ever complete a sentence without major errors of substance, spelling or grammar, Steve?

I know engineers in the business. Do tell about interconnection report you bought and all the power you've pimped. Was that for PV at your home?

I'd be overjoyed if the true levelized costs were as you claim. They aren't, and the grid does require fossil fuels to spin turbines that aren't generating much but can't be turned off lest a major PV plant has a dip because of an errant cloud, or the wind stopped blowing.

Your renewable hysteria requires being CO2 phobic. Reductions at all costs. Deal with the problems after the fact. But CO2 isn't dirty and it isn't driving the climate.

[Bill Tozer]

The Rat Pack is Back!

SNL
https://patriotpost.us/articles/52377

[Walt]

NOW would be a good time to restrict travel.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/659699/Black-death-plague-death-Madagascar-rising-World-Health-Organisation-outbreak-US-Europe

[Bill Tozer]

Oh my, this can’t be good. New evidence arises that proves “Lia! Liar Lawyer Pants of Fire” Jeff Sessions lied to Congress. Did not see this one coming. Time to buckle up tight and get ready for a rough ride.

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/949663985183824/?type=3&theater

[Don Bessee]

Am I the only one who hates the Sniper Vison sun glasses ads by the Atomic light people? Grrrrrrrrrr. God Bless our Hero's! ;-)

[Gregory]

Regarding Senator Glioblastoma's honey, with a BA degree in Elementary Education, I am reminded of a PJ O'Rourkeism, where in Parliament of Whores, PJ made the observation that Reagan's Ed. Sec'y, Wm. Bennett, always seemed on the verge of saying 'Anyone who doesn't know what is wrong with Education never screwed an Elementary Education major'.

So, what is Sen. Glioblastoma's excuse now?

[Steve Frisch]

Posted by: Gregory | 13 November 2017 at 06:37 PM

Yeah, Greg I am on a multitude of devices, and although spelling is importnat to me, I post withut spell checking, so occasionally I make mistakes.

A more important question is how is it possible that someone who claims to have such strong scientific background is so completely devoid of critical thinking skills?

I have never stated that there would be NO role for fossil fuels, perhaps the best role is as back-up for peaking to reach minimum baseload power needs in the near future until storage comes on line, marrying the economic and environmental benefit of renewables with the barest need for carbon based fuels. I also never said that some fossil fueld turbines would be required to spin, the reality is that it will require a lot less, and thus less emissions. That point is indicitive of how you make your case--you create a false statement or position for your opponent then knock it down--no critical thinking skills reuired at all, merely a juvenile high school debating trick

You may quibble over the definition of a subsidy and split hairs, but the facts are that policy driving renewables coupled with priming the pump with funding for innovation, has driven the price of renewables down to below the cost of fossil fuels. That is good for consumers and good for the environment. It makes communities more resilient in the face of extreme weather events, and reduces the risk of interruption by distributing generation across a borader set of assets.

You may also discount expereince, but I talk with people in the investor owned and publically owned utility industry almost every day. I track CEC and CPUC reports and research. I work with renewable power suppliers on siting and locating renewable assets in the Sierra. I track regulatory policy and its implementation. I have a staff of 22 people fully half of whom are engeged in work around climate adaptation and mitigation and energy policy. I have much more expereince here than you do. I have never seen you at a single hearing, conference, release of a study, or engaged in any conversation whatsoever on policy at the local or state level. In short my experience trumps your ego.

While you guys are contemplating your shriveling navels California is likey to be hitting a 50% renewable level by 2020. We are already at 29% and it is likely that with projects under construction now we will hit 50% by 2020, 10 years earlier than scheduled.

http://www.energy.ca.gov/renewables/tracking_progress/documents/renewable.pdf

The amazing thing to me is that you, claiming to be science based, are so caught up in fighting your war on AGW proponents, that you would embrace a technology and power generation source that is clearly so damaging to the environment and out of scale to the small damage some renewables do, that it is literally killing people.

You are the classic exmpale of the subject of the famous climate change cartoon that asks the question, "What if we create a better world and it's all a big hoax..."

In my book you are a nasty, self important, but fundamentally ignorant ideologue who may be well educated but is a complete imbicile in practice. If you went back to your alma mater and made your case the way you make it here all of your science based mentors would shake their heads in shame.

[Steve Frisch]

Yes, indeed Gregory Goodnight, you are a cartoon....

http://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/climate-summit-what-if-its-a-big-hoax-and-we-create-a-better-world-for-nothing.jpg

[fish]

Blessing or Curse……?

'HUMAN BEER KEG' Former soldier gets drunk on FOOD due to bizarre condition means his stomach turns carbs into booze

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/4910872/former-soldier-gets-drunk-on-food-due-to-bizarre-condition-means-his-stomach-turns-carbs-into-booze/

[Todd Juvinall]

Steve Frisch, you really are a demented person.

[Robert Cross]

How many of you agree with Roy Moore when he said that Muslims shouldn't be allowed to serve in Congress?

[fish]

Posted by: Robert Cross | 14 November 2017 at 08:57 AM

Oh Bobby…..Roy Moore is so yesterday!

#thanksbobby

[Todd Juvinall]

None of us BobieC at 857. You?

[Gregory]

Frisch 737

Oh, my. (read it in a George Takei basso profundo, while you still can... et tu, George?)

Checking Frisch's company website, there are 19 not 22 besides him listed as staffers (http://sierrabusiness.org/who-we-are/people/staff, if you have 22 staffers working for you three are missing) and his VP of Climate and Energy has a BA in English Lit from (wait for it) Frisch's alma mater, 'Frisco State. And his entire staff is white enough to pass at a Richard Spencer rally.

The facts are that "renewables" haven't been driven down in price below that of conventional generation, or the rocket scientists in Sacramento wouldn't be yelling and swinging a big stick to force the conversions in California. What has been driving down the price is the willingness of the Chinese people to sacrifice their air, water and death rates for workers in order to make money for them. This will not continue ad infinitum, nor will their desire to keep lending the formerly Great State of California more and more money to paper over our profligate spending, but that's for another time.

Not a 'toon, Stevie. A heretic in your world and your name calling is best remembered with that in mind.

[Robert Cross]

NO,Todd, I don't agree with Roy Moore's statement that Muslims shouldn't serve in Congress, but I do think that Republicans should be barred from serving for the good of the 99.9% of Americans who aren't multi-millionaires or billionaires.

[Gregory]

"That point is indicitive [sic] of how you make your case--you create a false statement or position for your opponent then knock it down--no critical thinking skills reuired at all, merely a juvenile high school debating trick"
-Frisch

And the obvious point I didn't make before hitting Post was that virtually your entire piece was in fact a Straw Man argument where you were doing just what you accused me of in that sentence.

[Todd Juvinall]

Robert Cross | 14 November 2017 at 09:40 AM

So your racism is envy based. You liberals are such phony-baloneys. I suggest you go check the incomes of the Senators and Congresspeople and GASP! You will find your ilk/libs/dems, are richer. So try harder your racist pig.

[Paul Emery]

Todd writes

"

"Steve Frisch, you really are a demented person."

No Todd you are demented because you support child molester Roy Moore.

[Todd Juvinall]

No Paul Emery I am all about "innocent until proven guilty". You are a fascist.

[Paul Emery]

Todd

Does that apply to Hillary Clinton as well?

[Walt]

Paul. The same analogy can be said about you. Your support of "dope for all" will make it easier for children to get their hands on dope. All those dope growers with children around while they grow drugs.
And NO PROOF Moore molested anyone. Nothing more than you probably did with hippie chicks.

[Todd Juvinall]

You apparently don't believe in it? Jeeze you really are a fascist Paul Emery. Who would have thought a short pony tailed counter-culture type guy would be one. Sad.

[Walt]

LIBS are such pervs.
https://www.thewrap.com/nbc-senior-vice-president-dismissed-inappropriate-conduct-one-woman/

The " he touched me" accusation cuts both political ways.

But where will LIBS get donor money from? All the big donors are paying big money to lawyers to keep their collective peckers out of the wringer.
The DNC has no money, Hillary took it all.

[Robert Cross]

Todd.."racist pig". Is that all you have? In case your 4th grade intellect doesn't serve you well, racism usually refers to ethnicity not political affiliation. I just love fishing. Just throw a little chum out there and BAMB, the fish just jump right out of the water to get some. However there is a problem with catch and release.. one just keeps snaring the same dumb trout.

[Robert Cross]

Todd, in case you didn't understand my previous post here is a clarification you might understand..."sticks and stones... etc. etc."

[Paul Emery]

Walt

Please document my support for "dope for all" . Were the quotes directly attributed to me? If not me who do you attribute them to. It it's not me document time and date and show me the precise example. That is not something I believe in. Marijuana is very harmful to children.

[fish]

Posted by: Robert Cross | 14 November 2017 at 11:38 AM

#bringbackourbobby

[Paul Emery]

So Todd is not firmly on the record as supporting Roy Moore for Senate. Thanks for clarifying that.

[Paul Emery]

Whoops

rewrite

So Todd is NOW firmly on the record as supporting Roy Moore for Senate. Thanks for clarifying that.

[Todd Juvinall]

Paul Emery you are unhinged. Are you off your meds? My goodness, if you were coherent you would not be writing the trash here that you do. Tou support conviction before the trial and that makes you a fascist. You cannot make this stuff up. Thanks for showing the readers what a total goofball you are.

[Todd Juvinall]

Robert Cross | 14 November 2017 at 11:35 AM

I realize you do not like to be outed as a racist pig but too bad.

[Gregory]

Regarding international norms of behavior: the French are considering setting a new age of sexual consent. Their number... thirteen years old.

Apparently their current standard is one of coercion or no coercion and were shocked when they were unable to get a conviction of a man who diddled an 11 year old because the jury didn't find that standard was met.