Sandbox - 25nov17

[Here's a short piece - 'The problem with liberalism: It has no limiting principles' - by Tim Jones that closely summarizes a lot of what RR has been promoting (H/T to correspondent).  Its appearance in the American Thinker again gives lie to the local liberal loonies who continue to maintain that the sentiments and observations appearing in these pages are the rantings of lone rightwing voices found only in these foothills.  My own thesis - that these loonies don't get out very much to find out what's happening in the world - has been proven true countless number of times over the lifetime of RR.  They really should expand their sources if they want to stop coming off as being somewhere between terminally cynical and simply silly.  gjr]

Comments

[George Rebane]

To illustrate my above preamble, I'll start off by drawing your attention to the last comment in the 20nov17 Sandbox by Mr Robert Cross, one of our illustrious liberals. There he dismisses a verifiable fact posted by another commenter for the only reason that its cited source is a rightwing outlet.

[fish]

George -- I am just pointing out to passersby that Scott's source is a sketchy website known to pass on propaganda with an extreme right bias. That is all. Like all things fact or fiction, you may take it or leave it.

I think you'll find bobby....can I call you bobby? That these MSM outlets have very bit the dodgy reputation of those that you cite as......horrors......"right wing".

A good rule of thumb is that most media outlets that progressives label "extreme right" are usually guilty of little more than saying things that ruin counter to the "narrative"!

[Russ]

Yes, I get the same shuffle from Robert Cross when I quote a paper on climate change posted at Watts Up With That. Robert discounts the peer-reviewed article because it was posted on a TV weatherman's blog. Never mind that my posted quote came from a study done by a climate scientist and published in peer-reviewed journal. It is just a convenient excuse for discounting the facts that do not support Robert's worldview.

[George Rebane]

Adding to the points by Messrs fish and Russ above, differentiating between clearly verifiable assertions (i.e. data exists to confirm or falsify them) and propositions/theories yet to be confirmed/falsified is a skill that will prevent one from rejecting or accepting something just because its citation belonged to an ideologically tinged source. Even I will believe the time of day as reported by a self-avowed socialist.

[Bill Tozer]

Dr. Rebane, I cannot find the thread concerning what defines sexual harassment, but here is an answer....from yet another right wing tainted and bias source. Survey sez it depends on who you ask.

Oh, those Americans are such prudes.

“When it came to asking a woman out for a drink, about one in four young males and about 12.5% of young females said it would "always" or "usually" be a form of sexual harassment. For reference, those polled in Sweden, Germany, and the U.K., all polled around 0% for this particular hypothetical”.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/23852/study-lot-young-people-think-compliments-drink-amanda-prestigiacomo?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro

[Don Bessee]

Cross little bobbie assuredly like MSNBC as an honest and credible bastion of journalistic integrity, you just like our own po' ol' fakenewsman.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/11/25/msnbcs-morning-joe-hosts-caught-faking-post-thanksgiving-banter-taped-earlier.html

;-)

[Bill Tozer]

Perhaps Bobbie enjoys his cup of mud Morning Joe with a copy of the Washington Post. Opps, this link is from Fox News, a hard core right wing extreme fakenews site and one of the founding members of the Great Right Wing Conspiracy. Nevermind.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/11/24/washington-post-reporter-caught-plotting-liberal-agenda-with-billionaire-george-soros.html

[Walt]

Robert is cross, because the truth hurts, so he tries to shoot the messenger.(taking notes from "jon", Bunbun?)

[Account Deleted]

Thanks for the warning, Bobby-Is-Cross. But I ain't ascared. I read 'em all and take the truth from whatever source I find it in.
Maybe Bobby can find examples of what he is claiming is true about Taki Mag.
Or maybe he's just blowing smoke.
Your move, Bobby.

[Don Bessee]

A bit of troll chow for a holiday weekend-

http://freebeacon.com/blog/climate-alarmists-warn-coming-mass-extinction-event-dont-worry-theyre-always-wrong/

;-)

[George Rebane]

BillT 122pm - Thanks for the good effort. Defining sexual harassment is nigh on impossible when we take into consideration today's chaotic values. But putting out a reasonable operational definition that many (most?) people will accept may still be possible. Mea culpa, I'm working on such a definition and it's taking longer than I had hoped.

[Don Bessee]

Background on 802.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/25/after-30-years-alarmists-are-still-predicting-a-global-warming-apocalypse/

;-)

[Don Bessee]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/26/report-immigration-encourages-discrimination/

;-)

[fish]

Posted by: Don Bessee | 26 November 2017 at 12:18 PM

Wax and Richwine say these problems can be addressed if elites recognize the harm caused by their pro-immigration priorities and if sidelined American blue-collar workers also recognize their own shortcomings.

I wouldn't count on this.....after all, they're desperately trying "to elect a new people"!

[Don Bessee]

This must be one of the po' ol' fakenewsmans friends-

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/26/al-franken-leeann-tweeden-g-s-potter/

;-)

[Account Deleted]

Bessee at 3:12 - That's a pretty interesting take on who the left considers to be a 'victim'.
You can take that line of reasoning and eliminate all sorts of horrors. From genocide to pedophilia. Oh - that's right - the left already does.
Funny how it doesn't seem to apply to Americans of African origin. They get to claim to be victims of slavery if their pay drops below a couple a million a year of if they don't like the boss.
For the left, it's always about whatever fits the current narrative.

[fish]

Holy crap.....! I’ve had a great time making sport of Creepy Uncle Joe....but I never got just how creepy he really was!

http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2017/11/trump-would-clobber-biden-with-one-video.html?spref=tw&m=1

Anyway.....no President Biden in our collective futures!

[Bill Tozer]

All the Dems and Liberals and socialists and media can talk about is sex and race. Sex and race. Boy, imagine what would happen in Alabama if Roy Moore and his hard core Alt-Left extremist opponent talked about the border. Illegal immigration, taxes, or real issues like who they would vote for to be the next Supreme Court Justice. We all know which side Roy Moore would vote on and we all know which side his opponent Doug Jones would vote 100% for against. Against any nominee in the Gorsuch mold for certain. But, dare not talk about that, dare not go there, must not go there.
Doug Jones is too extreme for Alabama, too extreme for America.

Even the Green Libertarian talks about nothing but sex. Not so much on race, Little if any on the issues. Sex, sex, sex. After all this Lefty sex talk runs it’s course, wonder what they will get unhinged over next? I am waiting on the edge of my seat.

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/956202447863311/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/956457261171163/?type=3&theater

Sex, sex, sex. Liberals and sex. Sex and liberals. No wonder Robin Williams offed himself. At least Bill Crystal wants none of that. Kudos to Mr. Crystal.

https://www.facebook.com/139981046633761/videos/148769229088276/?hc_ref=ARQvp45NhrY9onLX5GCa_nleyI5EikgqVd3XwJCnOACYKYKAmnm1hKHicCd-UsVhDXk&pnref=story

[Russ]

An Endorsement: Roy Moore For Senate!

John Hinderaker at Powerline

I wouldn’t have voted for Judge Roy Moore in the Republican primary, and I tend to view him with distaste. But in the special election coming up in a couple of weeks, if I were an Alabama voter, I would cast my ballot for him enthusiastically.

Why? Two reasons. But first, the latest poll results from Alabama, via WBRC TV. This appears to be a meaningful poll, as it surveyed 3,000 likely Alabama voters–a substantial number. It shows Roy Moore coming back from the attacks on him to take a two-point lead, 47% to 45%.

This poll, taken last Monday evening, is already somewhat out of date. But I think it is easy to see why Alabama voters are trending back toward Judge Moore. As I said, there are two reasons:

1) Apparently Moore has done nothing wrong in the last 40 years. If he had, we would have heard about it. And if he has been pure for 40 years, or close to that time, he will be the most upright man in Washington, D.C. It wasn’t much more than 40 years ago when Ted Kennedy drowned Mary Jo Kopechne, and it was just under 40 years ago when Bill Clinton allegedly raped Juanita Broaddrick. If those offenses can be forgiven, Roy Moore’s (weakly) alleged offenses should be forgiven, too–especially since, unlike Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton, he seems to have done nothing reprehensible in the decades that have gone by since.

2) His opponent is a Democrat. ‘Nuff said–President Trump was right about this. The Democrats are doing everything they can to block the Republican agenda in the Senate, and giving them another seat would only empower the flakes like John McCain and Susan Collins who seek to mold every vote toward their own eccentric visions. Let’s not weaken the GOP in the Senate any further. The Republic hangs in the balance.

So I say: Roy Moore for Senate! Enthusiastically.

[Paul Emery]

Gosh and Golly Bill your last comment about mewas that I I talked about was Mueller. Tough weekend I suppose with the Feds closing in on Flynn and the Trumplet

[Bill Tozer]

Punchy
Yes, that was a broad brush. You did waste 7 hours straight of relentless moral outrage over a 5 million tax break to the guys and gals who make their living servicing jet airplanes. One whole day down the tubes and without sex. And how many countless days and hours have you spent on the Fake Dossier? I was wrong. You do talk about some non-sex pervert events, without grasping the issues. Now you are going after Trump’s “greasy” son. Poor Brandon, he is just a quiet kid. That was quite greaseball of you. How low will you go?

“I'm sure your Muller nothing assessment will bring comfort to Trumps Campaign Chief Manifort, Fynn the flipper and soon his greasy Son.”

Posted by: Paul Emery | 24 November 2017 at 10:53 PM

All the libs talk about is sex and race, race and sex, race to sexual predation, racing to them bottom, pun indeeded. Now those unhinged journalists suffering from a bad case of Trump Derangement Syndrome (a progressive and irreversible clinical affliction) are now investigating Sanders’ pie. Not Colonel Bernie Sanders’ pie, but Sarah Huckabee Sanders’ pie. Talk about looking under the skirt. Shameful. They are obsessed.. I have never seen anything like it in 30 years.

[Todd Juvinall]

Let's see if Norm can get the number of responses I got in my last post. The liberals sure get stirred up on those Union articles. I cause them to lose their bowels. LOL!

[Paul Emery]

No interest in Flynn the Flipper and the Grease Boy Trumplet Bill? What are you trying to avoid?

[fish]

Posted by: Paul Emery | 27 November 2017 at 12:46 PM

What are you trying to avoid?

If I had to guess …….more of your senile blathering!

[Paul Emery]

Fish

Are you saying that the likely flipping of Flynn is "senile blathering" ?

[Todd Juvinall]

Fis, I get it! You mean Paul Emry's senile blathering. LOL!

[Paul Emery]

Todd

do you believe that the likely flipping of Flynn is "senile blathering"?

More on this topic later today.

[Paul Emery]

Todd, Fish

No way you can avoid the news of the day.

[fish]

Posted by: Paul Emery | 27 November 2017 at 01:25 PM

We get it Punch….you don't like Trump.

Rather than the constant whining and incessant teenaged girl like badgering (this is very similar behavior to your obsession with political popularity polls) why don't you at least wait until Mueller brings charges of some sort and then run back breathless with the news!

[Walt]

Hay Bobby.. I hope this isn't the Mrs.
https://www.theunion.com/news/local-news/suspected-drunken-driver-arrested-in-nevada-city-after-honking-at-cop/
"The driver, identified as Karen Omaley Cross, was driving through Nevada City at just after 11 p.m. Saturday, and failed to notice that the vehicle in front of her was a marked patrol vehicle, said Nevada City Police Sgt. Chad Ellis.

After Cross realized her error, "she blew through the sign" and headed down Pine Street over the bridge at about 30 mph, Ellis said."

[Paul Emery]

That's boring Fish. this is a fast moving story. Every day is filled with new treats and delights.

Probably you should just ignore me and bliss out that everything's ok with your guy Trump and his slimy partners and greasy sons.

[fish]

Posted by: Paul Emery | 27 November 2017 at 02:42 PM

Probably you should just ignore me…..

Probably right…..!

[Todd Juvinall]

I actually do ignore Paul Emery. Boring.

[Don Bessee]

Well Walt if that is the cross ones significant other you could understand her heavy drinking! ;-)

[Don Bessee]

The po' ol' fakenewsman should not ask questions about his senile blathering's if he was smart....never mind. ;-)

[Paul Emery]

Readers, that last comment was from Don Bessee architect of Measure W that cost Nevada County Taxpayers at least $75,000 and was defeated at the polls 60-40. He's hardly one whose expertise on anything political should be taken seriously. He still has a home here though as part of Rebanes Circle of Jerks that provide most of the content for these pages.

[fish]

Posted by: Paul Emery | 27 November 2017 at 03:40 PM

He still has a home here though as part of Rebanes Circle of Jerks that provide most of the content for these pages.

I think you'd do better at jeffies….

[Todd Juvinall]

Paul Emery is really looking unhinged! And now he is anti-citizens voting for a measure. My what a tyrant. I assume he favors dictators since he does not like the citizens voting for an initiative. That does clear things up for the readers. Don Bessee favors the citizens voting, Paul Emery doesn't. I'll favor the Bessee model.

And calling those that post comments here as "jerks"? It appears that Mr. Paul Emery is the most potent commenter here so is he poking himself as a "jerker"? Jeeze what a boring person

[Don Bessee]

How fresh and original @340pm. Your just mad I keep getting new, bigger and better gigs since then! ;-)

[Paul Emery]

I don't consider myself to be part of Rebanes Circle of Jerks Todd. You are a charter member. For the sake of simplicity I will refer you and them as CJ's.

Well Todd, Nevada County spoke and Bessee lost by 20% and it cost Nevada County $75,000. It takes a real idiot to so thoroughly misjudge public opinion.

[Paul Emery]

For your reading pleasure

Jones is now leading Moore by 8 points in the Conservative Fox Polls. This is going to be fun.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2017/senate/al/alabama_senate_special_election_moore_vs_jones-6271.html

[Don Bessee]

I would remind the po' ol' party parrot that I did not write W nor did I run that campaign. In the races I supported and worked in CA that cycle I won 16 of 17 in the primary. Just sayin' to keep you on perspective ya po' ol' fakenewsman.

Throwing the worn out w line is an admission you have nothing substantive to come back with. Is it true that Nevada City is going to institute a tax on grey pony tails? That should sure generate some cash. ;-)

[Walt]

LOL Paul, your bring up "W", yet refuse to utter a peep about how "your vision" of Mom and Pop dope grower getting rich, went up in smoke. The great tax bonanza is strangling itself on "taxed too damned much!" Oh. And one lousy outlet in the county.(and you didn't even put up a fight) How Commie of you.( Nope, no capitalistic competition allowed)
Big dope thanks you. I bet I can find corp. stocks I can buy, that get we into the "big dope" action.
Yet Mom and Pop grower will still be looking over their shoulder for the cops. Like I said.. "warned ya'" a LONG time ago.

[Todd Juvinall]

Paul Emery you can dodge it all you want but you are an integral part of the circle and we all know it. You are the most prolific poster here so you are the "lead jerker". And you are anti-citizen voting which makes you a fascist.

Moore will be in or out depending on Alabama voters. Until then you can stuff you ridiculous polls. A couple of weeks and we will all see.

As the head
jerker" here Paul Emery, whenh you get some real facts let us know.

[Todd Juvinall]

Oh and the poll you cite is last week. Here is the latest which shows Moore up 2.

http://www.wbrc.com/story/36899832/exclusive-new-poll-shows-roy-moore-and-doug-jones-in-statistical-tie

[Paul Emery]

Two different topics Walt. Either way Dons judgement cost Nevada County taxpayers $75,000

Don, you were the spokesperson supporting Measure W at the League of Womens Voters sponsored debate before the election and now you say you did not write W or run the campaign. Do you expect anyone to believe that.

You say you won 16 of 17 in the primary. What happened in Nevada County and why did your side lose big time on Prop 64?

[Todd Juvinall]

Walt, Paul Emery is a fascist apparently. Don't let the people vote is his deal. Sad.

[Walt]

Nope, I did't write it. That's about the one thing you got right.
So something on the ballot cost money. BFD. They ALL do.
Let me know where the LIBS "paid their fair share".
Now we have a state "dope board". That going to cost millions, if not billions before the pot smoke settles.

[Paul Emery]

Where did I say people shouldn't vote Todd? Can you document that or is it another one of your lies. What I did say is it cost Nevada County taxpayers $75,000 to pay for Bessee's stupid proposition that had no support. It was supported and promoted by the Republican BOS who should take responsibility for the folly and abuse of taxpayers money.

[Don Bessee]

Anyone who reads or paid attention to the rollout of W at Rood Center knows that ya' pathetic fakenewsman @ 441. Lame attempt at fakenews revisionist history. The County wrote W and I saw it when everyone else did. The campaigns 440's are online with the elections office, see my name anywhere?

SAM debated Cal Growers at the league debate. We did not have enough money in the primary in Nevada County, we were overwhelmed by out of County pot interests pouring cash into the County. That coupled with the epic fail of the R's get out the vote spelled defeat.

It was a ballot issue on a regularly scheduled election cycle so the cost was minimal. Now contrast that to the proponents of S fighting tooth and nail for a special election to deliberately cost the county massive bucks.

You are either lying or wallowing in po' ol' fakenews. It was the vote of the BOS that put it on the ballot. I don't seem to recall being on the BOS, perhaps your memory is different. While I am a loyal and happy warrior in the vast right wing conspiracy, I was very open about W on YOUR RADIO SHOW right after the election. Just another lefty revisionist who can not win a debate on the merits spinning po' ol' fakenewsman dementia yarns. How droll. ;-)

[Todd Juvinall]

How did you vote on Bruce Conklin's "Nuclear Free Zone" initiative Paul Emery?

[Don Bessee]

The po' ol' fakenewsman has gone full blown Hillary in denying anyone who disagrees with them from exercising the proper political process. Is it true that the KVMR news department is slated to be closed when the feds stop your grant money? How are they figuring the grey pony tail tax, length, girth, number of hairs left? Will the tax be used to buy rogaine for the folllicaly challenged pony tail set? Enquiring minds want to know. ;-)

[Paul Emery]

I voted no on that Todd. How did you vote on Measure W?

No wonder Measure Measure W lost. Even it's spokesperson Don Bessee now regrets it and is making excuses. This is a crackup.

[Walt]

Now we know where Paul gets his attitude from.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/11/27/anti-trump-msnbc-host-joy-reid-thinks-rural-americans-are-core-threat-to-democracy.html
"MSNBC host Joy Reid thinks that rural Americans are “the core threat to our democracy” and pointed to a series of tweets by liberal author Jared Yates Sexton that claimed Trump supporters “do not believe in the Constitution or any founding principles unless they're advantageous” as proof of her far-left theory."
Someone needs to remind that woman, this is not a democracy.
It's a Republic.(a reminder to Paul)

[Paul Emery]

Remind Todd about that Walt. He is the one supporting popular votes for propositions rather than leaving it up to our duly elected officials to make the decisions. I am branded as a fascist by Todd for my core belief that we a are a Democratic Republic not a direct Democracy.

[Walt]

I didn't write the rules Paul, take it up with them.

Trump probabbly has a judge in the bull pen.
This ain't good news for the Ca. LIBS.
http://www.sfgate.com/news/us/article/Harry-Pregerson-senior-federal-appeals-court-12386716.php

A new spot just opened on the 9TH. Let the howling begin. You can bet the pot patch that LIBS will DEMAND another LIB take his place.

[Walt]

Like I said Paul,, where dope in concerned, you won the battle but lost the war... ( but bitch about "W".)
"W" is just Paul's dog whistle, and "SQUEAL!!!"
Nope you can't handle the facts I put forth to you. Hence the shuck and jive.

[Don Bessee]

Please point out your so called 'regrets' quotes ya po' ol' fakenewsman. How about you post the transcript of my comments on your show that November? That's never going to happen, too much truth for a po' ol' party parrot.

On a serous note, are you going to personally benefit from Nevada City's grey pony tail tax? The public wants the truth, fess up! TJ is branding you a fascist for denying the right to petition and vote on their issues as opposed to your group think only team. Its all good for S but screw you on W. Well at least you are a consistent hypocrite. ;-)

[Don Bessee]

Here is something to send the po' ol' fakenewsmans envy, jealousy, inferiority complex and the rest into high TURDs mode. ;-)

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/11/27/shes-like-an-angel-melania-trump-stuns-in-dior-for-unveiling-of-christmas-at-the-white-house/

[Todd Juvinall]

Paul Emery is not aware that his progressive mento got the initiative, referendum, and recall put into the State's Constitution? Seems like you would be a big proponent if you are not a fascist.

And you really think I believe you that you voted NO on your pal's intuitive for a Nuclear Free Zone? Please. How did you vote n the repeal of that. Jim Callaghan was the man that went after it so how dd you vote on the repeal?

[Paul Emery]

don

I thought we did a good interview on W and you expressed effectively your view as to why it lost. What's your beef? Did you have a problem as to how I conducted the interview? Was I unfair in my questioning? Is there anything I prevented you from saying?

[Don Bessee]

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/11/27/supreme-court-leaves-place-nebraska-funeral-protest-law.html

;-)

[Don Bessee]

Your pathetic revisionist history is not going to fly ya po' ol' faknewsman. ;-)

[Todd Juvinall]

Well it means those idiots from the church can be barred from our military funerals. Common sense prevails!

[Don Bessee]

Am I the only one who sees a schizophrenic personality when comparing 612 to the prior attempts to put words in peoples mouths and revisionist history attempts @ 513,421.?? ;-)

[Todd Juvinall]

We all have figured that he is bi-polar.

[Account Deleted]

https://www.infowars.com/soros-funded-groups-claim-repealing-net-neutrality-is-racist/
“Chairman Pai’s plan to gut the FCC’s net neutrality rules will devastate Black communities,” Color of Change proclaims on its website.
Really? I have always heard from the left that the 'black community' was already devastated.
You mean it's all good right now?
Or are they currently devastated and soon they will be 'double devastated'.
It's really hard to keep up with the left. They are so busy running around with the goal post, it's hard to know where it was supposed to be in the first place or where it will ever need to be in order to have that magic social justice they talk about.

[Paul Emery]

So according to Todd I am a bi polar fascist, communist, Nazi, pervert, socialist, senile, traitor, liar, anarchist......

what did I miss Todd?

[Round Tooit]

The Jerky Boys are circling, liars and losers, reeking of hipocracy,

Republicans turned a $155 billion surplus in 2001 into a $1 Trillion deficit 8 years later. Now they appear to be buckling under to support adding another $1.5 Trillion to the national debt.

[John]

Paul Emery at 7:34, you can add "complete asinine fool" to your list of attributes. It is really tiresome reading your foolish posts. Stop and read what you write, you should be embarrassed for yourself. Or maybe not.

[Todd Juvinall]

I get a kick out of liberals. They drift through and call us names. Jerks, etc., like Paul does all the time and then when they get some return fire they get all worked up. Cracks me up.

[Paul Emery]

Yeah the Repubs really lost the farm Tooit. Started out with a nearly balanced budget thanks to Clinton and Newt -even a surplus and ended with the biggest financial crisis since the depression. Add to that two unfunded endless wars and us sitting on our thumbs while Bin Laden took pot shots at us from afar.

Trump was right about one thing-Bush should have been impeached.

[Bill Tozer]

Walt @ 2:28 pm

Mrs. Cross? Maybe, maybe not. 50 year old women (yes, I assumed her gender, so sue me, Bobbie) from Auburn. Occupation: Fire Captain. Opps.

CROSS, KAREN OMALEY 50 7/30/1967 F B17031167 11/26/2017 2:29 AM N AUBURN, CA FIRE CAPT
Chg # Agency Officer Agency Case Arrest Location Statute Statute Description Bail Court Case # Type
1 NCPD 127 C1701005 GETHSMINE@ S. PINE 23152(D) DUI:ALC/.04 COMERCIAL VEH $150,000.00 M

Well, sounds like the ole firefighters verses police officers rivalry is alive and kicking. Guns and Hoses, Hogs and Dogs fighting it out in the Pig Bowl This game pits law enforcement *HOGS* against the fire service *DOGS”, FYI.

[Don Bessee]

Round tool is too cute for words @ 735. Which device was that now? ;-)

[Bill Tozer]

More like warty tool.

[Bill Tozer]

Todd @ 8:33pm.
Yep, they are quite sensitive people and get their feeling hurt often. It’s their badge of honor. Did you hear what mean ole Trump said about Jeb, Arnie, Rosie the Pork Rump Roast, McCain, Rubio, Chuckie the Clown, and today.....drum roll please......Pocahontas!

If you are easily offended, your momma raised you wrong. Why is everybody picking on me? Time to exercise my 2nd Amendment rights....sez the easily offended. Some can dish it out all day long can’t take it for 5 minutes. Curse you Dorthoy, I’m melting, I’m melting. Is that what you call “floating like a butterfly and stinging like a bee? Looks more like self pity and “poor me, poor me, they are picking on me, poor me, pour me another drink.” It’s unfair! But then again, I could be wrong. Nah.

Now fellows, Punchy ain’t no anacist. He believes government should take care of all the little children of the world. He even thinks our gobberment should provide healthcare for all and the US government should pay NATO’s dues. Sounds more like statist than an anarchist, IMHO. Anarchist? No. Senile? Well, that is putting it in the best light. Senile just doesn’t begin to describe it, but I will give senile a big YES for the sake of brevity.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.254420818025296.63999.217926015008110/1208305845970117/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1208509862616382/?type=3&theater

[fish]

Posted by: Round Tooit | 27 November 2017 at 07:35 PM

I remember the good old days too……when you claimed to be the psychiatrist to C-List stars……and the democratic party hated to piss away tax dollars and had to be dragged kicking and screaming to appropriations hearings!

Good times….good times indeed!

[fish]

Posted by: Paul Emery | 27 November 2017 at 08:54 PM

Started out with a nearly balanced budget thanks to Clinton and Newt -even a surplus and ended with the biggest financial crisis since the depression.

I sure hope you play the guitar better than you understand finance C-Nile because we haven't had a true surplus since Andrew Jackson.

[George Rebane]

Mr Toolt is another liberal ignorant of the difference between debt and deficit.

[Paul Emery]

If we didn't have a surplus then George bush must have been lying when he said

"The other choice is to let the American people spend their own money to meet their own needs. I hope you will join me in standing firmly on the side of the people. You see, the growing surplus exists because taxes are too high and Government is charging more than it needs. The people of America have been overcharged, and on their behalf, I am here asking for a refund. "

[fish]

Posted by: Paul Emery | 28 November 2017 at 07:23 AM

Oh Punch……your just adorable in your trusting of politicians!

I suppose if there is any benefit to you personally from a Trump administration it's that you are more skeptical of these sorts of things. Of course, I'm sure that will pass just as soon as the next progressive democrat finds themself in the Oval Office.

[George Rebane]

PaulE 723am - You are joking of course, aren't you? I'm sure we've had conversations wherein I distinctly remember that you understood the difference between deficit and debt. Your latest lying charge against Bush2 suggests that you don't understand that his "growing surplus" referenced the then annual revenue rate indicating the feds would derive revenues that exceeded the adopted budget for the year. Why would anyone with a 3-digit IQ think he was talking about national debt?

[Gregory]

"Started out with a nearly balanced budget thanks to Clinton and Newt -even a surplus and ended with the biggest financial crisis since the depression".

There was a paper surplus when Bush II was inaugurated, but that disappeared six months after Bush said those words with a puff of the World Trade Center towers. A couple trillion dollars sucked out of the country, and "the biggest financial crisis since the Depression" was an implosion of the Democratic Party sacred cows, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the bad paper they flooded the word with that took years to unravel.

Bush Derangement Syndrome is so last decade, Paul.

[Gregory]

world not word

[Paul Emery]

So George was it OK that Bush didn't choose to pay down the national debt when there was surplus income how could it be possible otherwise to pay down other than from surplus income.? List a few options to educate me.

[Don Bessee]

Spend less @ 1032! ;-)

[Don Bessee]

For filing under the as expected heading;

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/11/28/gloria-allred-refuses-third-party-handwriting-analysis-roy-moore-yearbook/

;-)

[Todd Juvinall]

The surplus was a mirage.

[Paul Emery]

So Don if you spend less you can have a surplus to pay off the debt right?

so Todd the Bush must have got it wrong when he said there was a surplus and returned money to the taxpayers

[Todd Juvinall]

Moore up by five.

[Paul Emery]

Glad to see you're nos a follower of the Polls Todd. You can now appreciate how unpopular Trump is with the American people. Historically low support for the first year.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

[George Rebane]

PaulE 1032am - Please ref Gregory's 938am. Thanks.

[Paul Emery]

George

Is there any way the existing debt can be reduced other than being paid down by a budget surplus?

[Todd Juvinall]

Monetizing it.

[Paul Emery]

Todd

Can you explain that process and how it would help,

[Walt]

Paul. How do we "pay" for a tax cut?

[George Rebane]

PaulE 110pm - Yes, the dollar can be destroyed by hyper-inflation a la the Weimar Republic (1923). Can everyone spell 'Massive Quantitative Easing'?

[Paul Emery]

That's the way I understand it George. So what are the options for reducing the existing debt as you see it?

[Paul Emery]

walt

You can pay for a tax cut in two ways. One by cutting spending and two by increasing growth.