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30 November 2017

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Todd Juvinall

I wonder if the Black Lives Matter boycott of white people and their biz will have a effect here in Nevada County?

fish

....and people wonder why the press is ignored these days!


ABC Makes "Epic Mistake", Retracts Bombshell Flynn Story



When contacted the ABC News Division said that in response to this they would redouble their efforts to cause GMC Pickup trucks to explode for their long form news programs in an attempt to distract the viewing public!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-01/abc-makes-epic-mistake-retracts-bombshell-flynn-story

fish

Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 02 December 2017 at 08:31 AM

Probably not.

Walt

Paul. Judge N. has been wrong more than a time or two.
He said plenty of "O" minions would be going to jail too.
That sure worked out swell. BTW. Your popcorn will go stale long before your little victory party.

Paul Emery

Na Walt

there will be popcorn treats every week

Here's one

For your reading pleasure:

Trump down 29% in Gallup poll Historic low for first time Presidential in the history of polling. Down 10% in 10 days.

Paul Emery

link

http://news.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx

Walt

ZZZZZZZZZ... That and $3.75 will get you a cup of decaf.
By "your" numbers Trump is down 300%. ( Paul's fuzzy math)
Why so negative Paul? Funny you NEVER post Trump's "up" number.
(can't have one without the other) Where is you go to school again?
Get back to us come next election where a poll just might have a chance to make it through our poll bug zapper. But whatever helps you sleep at night.( a shot of Wild Turkey does wonders.. )

Walt

But PAUL! Score a big one for TRUMP! LOL!
https://apnews.com/6a409d3266be46dcaa2f1267fd947a12/Senate-OKs-tax-bill-as-Trump,-GOP-near-big-legislative-win

Bill Tozer

Yo Fish, keep forgetting to send ya this. Already outdated, sorry.
Chao. Too hip, gotta go.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1210505042416864/?type=3&theater

Walt

More bad news for the Lefties.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/12/02/abcs-brian-ross-again-under-fire-for-explosive-error-on-trump-flynn.html

The news you get is bad from the start. But look at the joy it gave you for a brief moment. There is your non mined silver lining.

Walt

WINNING!!!!
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/362838-senate-gop-repeals-obamacare-mandate

Christmas came early.

Paul Emery

Now if it is shown that Flynn was instructed to lie to the FBI by higher ups or Trump himself then we'll have to approve a new prisons-a Tower of Trump for Trump and family similar to the Tower of London for imprisoned royalty

Todd Juvinall

Rasmussen has Trump down 11. Paul Emery sure cherry picks. That is why he and the media have no creds. And tell us how anyone can prove someone told Flynn to lie about something that was legal would you please Paul Emery? My goodness, you are unhinged.

fish

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 02 December 2017 at 11:07 AM


Yes William....the Vizsla.....the most sexually deviant of the canines!

Paul Emery

Lying to the FBI is a crime Todd. Don't you get it? Flynn has already spilled that to Mueller Todd so it will unfold. Instructing someone to commit a crime is a crime Todd. George will agree with me. You don't lie to the FBI for any reason.

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery, yes I agree that if you lie to the FBI and are caught you have a problem. Flynn was so dimb he lied about something that was legal. Now do you get it or do I need to draw you a picture?

Paul Emery

So Todd if Flynn was instructed to lie to the FBI by his superiors what should be the penalty to them?

Don Bessee

If, if, if, if, if, if............ Ya got nothing but a bowl of rancid Russian dressing ya' po' ol' fakenewsman. ;-)

Don Bessee

Read it and weep party parrots-

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/12/02/dershowitz-flynn-plea-is-a-show-of-weakness-for-mueller/

;-)

Robert Cross

Bessee-- you really have nothing of substance to say do you.....ever... you po' ol' fake political activist you!

Walt

So lying to the F.B.I. is a crime.( apparently ONLY if your on the Repub side) Yet Hillary and Suzanne Rice walk the streets.
Lying to the American people on national TV disguised as "news"
is more than acceptable. ( when you have the F.B.I. in your hip pocket) Remember LIBS? a "video" started a terrorist attack.

Walt

Who took you down off that Cross Bob? The nails rust out?

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery, if you think proving someone told someone to lie is catchable and provable then go for it. Quite a long shot regardless. But Flynn lied about something that was not illegal. Just shows Trump and Pence did the right thing and fired him.

Cross, DonB has made you consistently look the fool. I understand why you would be upset.

Walt

Did I miss it? Did Bobby explain away that DUI of the same name from last week?

Bill Tozer

Ok, who put me on the fakenews junk mail list? Probably Don. It’s all true what they say about him. :).
Just look at this Nazi Propaganda. And all this time I figured we would all fold like a cheap suit and assume the fetal position per normal. Wrong. It’s like reading about Mike Tyson biting off someone’s ear. How diisgustingly deplorable:


“My friend, there is both good news and bad news coming out of the Alabama Senate race, but today I am encouraged by what I’m seeing.

The good news is this. President Trump will be addressing thousands of Alabama voters at a rally next week! Also, Democrat Doug “Sanctuary City” Jones has lost the 15-point bump in the polls that he got as the beneficiary of three solid weeks of gratuitous and unsupported media attacks on Judge Moore’s dating habits of 40 years ago.

The three most recent INDEPENDENT polls I have been shown all indicate that the race has tightened to within the margin of error. A statistician would put it this way: Jones leads slightly in one and Moore was slightly the favorite in two, but the sample size of the polls and the error that is inherent in any poll make the race “TOO CLOSE TO CALL.”

In Alabama, a state that almost never elects a Democrat statewide, that may seem discouraging, but look how far we’ve come! A week ago Doug “Partial Birth Abortion” Jones led it by 8 points!

You know why Moore is rebounding?

It’s because the crazy “he tried to rape me at the dumpster” story told by his most serious accuser (some say his ONLY serious accuser) has been falling apart at the seams, and is now generally regarded by voters on both sides of the political aisle as a complete fabrication.

That is EXACTLY what the fake victim’s own son said about it: “She’s lying through her teeth,” he said, of Beverly Young Nelson, Gloria Allred’s latest 11th hour actress: “She’s wrong for this. … She’s wrong as hell.”

Her son went public in a recorded statement in which he repeatedly apologized to Judge Moore and his lovely wife for the hurt and pain his mother’s lies have caused. You could see in his face that the brave young man was clearly ashamed of what she had done, and of the shame she had brought upon him and his family.

Here are the highlights of his “official statement”: “I didn’t even know it was going on until my mother told me what she was doing,” he said. “For whatever reason she’s done what she’s done, this needs to end now.”

“I know this woman. She’s been in the family for a long time,” he continued, pointing out that he is technically her stepson. “She’s lying through her teeth. This I do know,” he said. “I’m not going to let her get away with this one. Her manipulating, lies, and bullsh*t. It’s done.”


Robert Cross

More fake news Walt.. slanderous fake news..

Todd Juvinall

So Walt there was a Robert Cross DUI in the paper?

Walt

Uh,, NO it's not. Didn't you read the police blotter?
I posted word for word. and ASKING a QUESTION if it's YOUR kin,,
is FAR from "slanderous". Better get your accusation right before slinging that crap.
https://www.theunion.com/news/local-news/suspected-drunken-driver-arrested-in-nevada-city-after-honking-at-cop/
"The driver, identified as Karen Omaley Cross, was driving through Nevada City at just after 11 p.m. Saturday, and failed to notice that the vehicle in front of her was a marked patrol vehicle, said Nevada City Police Sgt. Chad Ellis.

After Cross realized her error, "she blew through the sign" and headed down Pine Street over the bridge at about 30 mph, Ellis said."

Care to identify the "slander" asswipe?

Todd Juvinall

I don't think either are residents of our county.

Robert Cross

Walt the association off my name with a DUI is slander: "making false and damaging statements". asswipe

On a happier note Fox News guy Shep Smith had this to say about the Russia investigation. “That this is a ruse, that this is fake news, is a lie,”

Walt

Good thing I don't use you for legal advice. "bob".
Humm.. Could be your sis, could be your wife. Could be your kid.
Guilt by association has hung many a dude.

Your about at the end of your "role",, "bob".
So... Mr. litigator,,(LOL!)
Show the statute in the civil code.

HELL! I doubt the name you go by is even your real name.
Can't "slander" fiction.

fish

The MSM Pervnado just keeps spinning......


https://www.thewrap.com/abc-news-suspends-brian-ross-4-weeks-without-pay-effective-immediately/

Walt

Flynn's lie? That must have been when he worked for "O".
Nothing about Russians.... Pass the dressing please....

Don Bessee

If the whole industry applies that standard @249 there wouldn't be many recognizable names or faces on TV! That could be a good thing. ;-)

Don Bessee

Here is one for the haters and pearl clutchers -

http://www.breitbart.com/economics/2017/12/02/booming-economy-new-york-fed-gdp-reading-3-9-percent/

Winning! ;-)

Walt

Don. Think the Progressive millionaires and billionaires want to revisit the "O" years with that kind of growth?
The Libs and never Trumpers will never admit to the good Trump has done.
Our little G&P outfit had more work this year than we could handle, and we are still getting calls for work.
Most of the time "O" was around there was a lack of jobs.
Trump sure made the cash register ring for us.

Bill Tozer

Never loose the attitude of gratitude.

Walt @ 2:51 pm

Flynn Lie? As Lt. William “Biker Bill” Calley said, “What, My Lai?” Was once poking around those parts, about 60 clicks north in a little village called Suk Mai Dik, but I digress.

Of all the good things that happened this week, one stood out that made this week one that was grrrrrrrrreat. Warmed the cockles of me weary heart big time, put a grin on my face bigger and wider than the Grinch who stole Christmas ever dreamed of having, and gave a nice spring to my step.
No, no, no. Not the tax stuff, not Flynn, not Trump retweeting those 3 extreme hard core alt right extremist racist Islamophobic divisive hate fake news videos that hammered on the Islamics. Not Morning Joe melting down about Little Rocket Man in N. Korea while shitting his pants on the air. No, not Bobbie going off unhinged... again. Nope, not any of those delicious hors d'oeuvres. That all was good stuff this week, but one undercovered story really stood out for the best move of the week.

What Trump did in one liitle off the cuff joke got more accomplished than what we yahoos here have been trying to do, yet failed to accomplish.
Trump crystallized in the general pubic’s consciousness and subconsciousness the direct relationship of fraud, fake, phony, lying forked tongue Fauxahonas with no other than the Sen. Elizabeth Warren. Made the word ‘charlatan’ synonymous with Sen. Warren. Let’s play word association!
Oh, that picture of her reaction will forever be burned in the mind. Those eyes bugging out, her mouth agape, that pissed to the max look on her face, smoking pouring out of her ears, and her screeching in reply and flailing about with her hand waving and index finger pointer going bonkers. Priceless. Then to make matters worse and draw national attention Pocahontas and Fauxahonas, she was screaming bloody murder about being a victim of a racial slur, ROFLMAO. Oh, somebody please stop Trump, this is killing me. I will crack another rib laughing so hard if he does not stop. Thank you President Trump. That made it all worthwhile. You did, sir, what we failed to do. You made it stick in 5 seconds of less. Geronimo.

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/957730661043823/?type=3&theater

That ranks right up there with the rather pleasant morning at the DNC Convention the morning following the Wikileaks Debbie Blabbermouth Whatzername dump. Queen Nancy, with grandchild’s hand in hers, walked into the friendly confines of the breakfast gathering of our own CA Dem Delegation was was meet with a chorus of boos, hisses, f-bombs, middle fingers, jeers, and an assorted cacophony of vulgar words that are not fit for any cuddly teddy bear to hear. Grandma got her granddaughter out of there quick.

My, my. The Reckoning certainly has had share of fun, frolic, and delightful moments.

https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/958274917656064/?type=3&theater

Don Bessee

Are they all using the weekly talking points for lefties?

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/regret-pain-predator-analyzing-apologies-matt-lauer-harvey-weinstein-others-accused-sexual-misconduct-172133769.html

;-)

Bill Tozer

Don, there is a lot of truth in this meme. Imagine how different it could have been and how much grief they could of avoided if they done the right thing 20 years ago.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1210620365738665/?type=3&theater

Oh, Tammy Bruce has some good stories. When she was head of the LA chapter of NOW, headquarters told her to shut down her silent candlelight vigil for victims of domestic violence because it was dissing a brother. The brother was OJ and the time was pre-trial when Nichole Simpson’s 911 tapes were just released. Silly young (26) Tammy, she thought the National Organization For Women was all about empowering women and all the women’s issues. A silent candlelight vigil for battered women was shut down by the National Committee. And she was told to endorse and campaign for a man she knew sucked on women’s rights while his opponent (an evil Republican) was better and spot on concerning women’s issues. Tammy got up to the podium and knowingly lied to all the women in the audience. She knew she just told the women to vote for the candidate with the worse record on her advocacy issues and passions. Why? Because race trumps gender, politics trumps gender, and power trumps everything on the dark side of the street.

Vespucci


"Buried in the Republican tax bill on page 503, section 14504 is a paragraph entitled: “Modification to Source Rules Involving Possessions.” What does that mean? It means that as best as we can understand, if you are a hedge fund manager who is a resident of the Virgin Islands, you will be able to get a major tax break on capital gains and a 90% reduction in tax liability on your income.

Corporations and the wealthy are avoiding over $100 billion each and every year by stashing their cash in the Caribbean and other offshore tax havens. It appears that this provision will make a bad situation even worse.

Adding insult to injury, it appears that this provision may only help a handful of wealthy hedge fund managers who have claimed residency in the virgin islands. It has been estimated that this provision alone -- one provision in a 500-plus-page bill -- will cost over $600 million in lost revenue in the next decade.

Maybe I missed it, but I don't remember the need to provide tax breaks to wealthy hedge fund managers in the Virgin Islands being one of our nation's pressing crises."

How many hidden paragraphs, like this, are in this bill to aid the super wealthy from paying their fair share ??? The Corporations have already stated any savings from this bill will go the shareholders etc not to the employees etc.

Walt

How bout a link to "the rest of the story"?

Where was your gripe when "O"care was written? That was/is full of "outs" for "rich" Proggys.

Walt

What? Ca. didn't try this first?
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/03/public-outcry-causes-honolulu-police-to-rethink-ordering-the-surrender-of-firearms/

Maybe one of our dope experts can tell us how legalized dope will effect gun ownership. Dope or weed?(I bet you can't have both)

Vespuccio

Walt at 905,,, your reply is rich,,,rich with hipocracy that is,,,you buffoons are just a bunch of bitches,,,all you really wanted to to was bitch about something so you bitched about proggies for the last 8 years. Then, you turn around and approve of anything your bosom buddies in Washington come up with,,, like I said, that's rich!!!

Walt

Come on Vesspa',, your a LIB. You should LOVE the news some people's taxes may go up. So who the hell is the hypocrite?
Forget "O"care is a TAX?
Still, NO damned link. Much more there than you care to share? Just cherry pick the part that fits your need? ( LIBS are good at that.)

If you feel your not paying enough taxes, feel free to send in extra.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/senate-passes-sweeping-revision-of-u-s-tax-code-1512197717

Walt

Now I see where you dug that up. No wonder you refused to "share".

Buried in the Republican tax bill on... - U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders ...
https://www.facebook.com/senatorsanders/posts/10156544049727908

LOL!!!!!
Col. "washed up" Sanders. Desperation setting in Bunbun?

Gregory

Paul Emery (aka Punchy) found me in my usual pose on Broad Street yesterday and we had a mostly pleasant chat, as usual. However, he let fly with one claim that sure didn't seem accurate to me and I promised I'd look into it and respond here.

The claim was that Jared Kushner had 'ordered Flynn to lie'. I repeated that a couple of times to be sure that was what Paul was claiming... that Kushner had ordered Flynn to lie.

Paul, that is truly Fake News. Kushner relayed a message to Flynn from President-Elect Trump, to contact the ambassador from Russia (and the rest of the Security Council!!!) to ask them to delay a vote on Israel.

That wasn't a direction to lie, that was a direction to commit a legal act of diplomacy from the incoming administration. Here's Dershowitz on the matter:
http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/362948-why-did-flynn-lie-and-why-did-mueller-charge-him-with-lying

Walt

“Report: ‘ANTI-TRUMP FBI AGENT LED CLINTON EMAIL PROBE’ Now it all starts to make sense!” Trump said in one of three tweets Sunday on the issue."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/03/trump-reloads-on-fbis-clinton-email-probe-after-reports-tainted-anti-trump-agent.html

When you have a loyal minion doing the investigating of you,
no chance in hell of getting indicted.

Todd Juvinall

I read that today too. I think Sessions needs to boot some of the Obama folks from the FBI and try and regain the trust of the country.

jon smith

When will Rudy Giulliani daylight? He has been oddly quiet since the Mueller investigation started gaining traction. My guess is that he is cooperating with the investigation and will become an A list witness. His ego is nearly as big as that of Trump's and he must be steamed that he was bumped out of consideration for any position in the administration. It doesn't hurt that Mueller may have him by the short hairs with testimony from Reza Zarrab.

Walt

J.Smith... Looks like that investigation has more against it than what's against Trump.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/02/fbi-agent-who-supervised-trump-russia-probe-reportedly-sent-anti-trump-text-messages/

LIBS must be losing their touch. Usually good,solid evidence would have been manufactured by now.

Todd Juvinall

No traction at all. All about legal transition stuff anyway. Waste of money and time.

Paul Emery

Sessions is probably already packing up his stuff and heading home to Alabama where he'll be appreciated. Mueller has all he needs to totally discredit him and Trump doesn't like him anyway. Give it about three weeks or the first of the year. It's likely Kelly will be joining the exodus as well.

Linls later.

Paul Emery

links later

Don Bessee

Says the same guy who predicted that Trump would quit before inauguration day and Pence would be Prez @ 244. ;-)

Walt

Right Paul, Muller has enough problems with his own team being dirty. It was such a bright move to hire all Clinton loyalists.
Any honorable investigator doesn't have a predetermined agenda.

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery sure has an imagination.

Todd Juvinall

Doing some Google searches on Sessions it appears Paul Emery's sources don't exist except in his noggin. Not one story, current, on this. All are the old ones from last summer. So Paul Emery, you are peddling fake news and you really should stop it.

jon smith

Good lord Todd (2:13)! You are as dumb as a Wiffle ball. You must be reading Art Buchwald's list of reasons why the Watergate investigation should have been dropped. Do these sound even a little bit familiar?

"It's a waste of time and money."
"Everyone does it."
"What About Chappaquiddick?"
"The press is blowing the whole thing up."
"The Democrats are sore because they lost."
"I'm sick and tired of hearing about Watergate and so is everybody else."

Todd Juvinall

My goodness jon Smith you are as dumb as a rock. You are simply ignorant so I'll give you a break for your stupidity. Try again.

Todd Juvinall

Besides jon Smith, you are not even a resident here in our fine county.

jon smith

Todd 3:42
"Besides jon Smith, you are not even a resident here in our fine county."
Your "logic" escapes me. How does where I live matter when we are discussing your intelligence and issues in Washington D.C.? Out of curiosity, where do you think I live?

Todd Juvinall

You are just not that smart Smith. You need to debate over at the FUE's where you fit right in with the loons. And we all know you live elswhere. Why lie?

Paul Emery

So Todd ask Fish if he's a NC resident.

Don
Please show me where I said Trump would be gone before inauguration day. Document or you are a liar.

I have said he wouldn't last 4 years and I'll say it again.

Paul Emery

This is unbelievable. Trump is trying to blame his attorney for the unbelievably stupid tweet that he fired Comey because he lied to the FBI

The Washington Post said in an update added to their story about the Twitter message — which insisted that any actions undertaken by Flynn during the presidential transition were “lawful” — that Trump’s personal attorney Dowd posted in the first person on the president’s Twitter account.

“UPDATE: The Post is now reporting that the tweet was authored by Trump’s personal lawyer, John Dowd, according to two people familiar with the situation,” said a note added some time after the article was published at 4:30 p.m. Saturday. “The fact that Dowd authored the tweet could limit its salience to the investigation, but the White House still hasn’t publicly corrected anything.”

Legal experts were aghast on Saturday when the message was posted, questioning whether Trump was intentionally trying to get himself charged with obstruction of justice.

However, as some observers noted, if Dowd actually authored the tweet in question, he used the improper conjugation of the verb “to plead” — the kind of mistake a first-year law student learns not to make, let alone a seasoned attorney like Dowd.


jon smith

Todd 4:10. Unlike you, I'm not afraid to leave the echo chamber where everybody sings in chorus. You should be asking why I don't post on Dragon's Breathe. I don't because you can't bear the weight of dissension or intellectual discussion that doesn't carry your stamp of approval. In other words, you have blocked my IP so you can dwell in the comfort of your own pea pod. I bet you look in the mirror a lot because you apparently find yourself so agreeable:-)
Does living in Carmichael makes one's views on national politics irrelevant on RR?

Don Bessee

Search your own name ya po' ol' fakenewsman. Your failing memory is your problem, not mine. Your rancid Russian dressing rantings are there in all their party parrot glory. No dementia passes for you KVMR guy. That sure sounds like the Dark Lord of Liberal Lament Land @552. ;-)

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery, I know where FISH lives. So what? Jon Smith promotes that he lives here when he doesn't.

jon Smith, I don't block IP addresses. I do boot people that use your language on my blog. So if you were booted it was for the cause of bad language. And as far as finding myself agreeable? Sure, I have great self-respect and self-worth. You seem to have some screws loose as your posts here are quite noronic. But hey, maybe it isn't your fault but the bad weed?

jon smith

Todd- I'm confident you know absolutely nothing about the Joseon Dynasty. For your own sake, don't use words you don't understand. . . it outs your ignorance.

Todd Juvinall

jon smith | 03 December 2017 at 06:46 PM

More blathering by you. You truly have no clue about anything.

Gregory

Everyone, please note that Paul Emery did not deny that he claimed Jared Kushner gave orders to Flynn to lie.

Was that a lie of yours Paul, or just the usual idiocy caused by Trump Derangement Syndrome, with a touch of Flynnsanity?

jon smith

Todd, good buddy- Got a PM from a friend wondering what my Joseon Dynasty comment was about. You called me Noronic. The Norons were one of the 4 great factions engaged in battle under the Dynasty. In the war for the west the Norons were fierce and competitive warriors against the Sorons. Calling me a noron was a distinctive compliment . . . Even if you didn't know it (you didn't know it). Many thanks.

You learn that kind of thing by traveling. You need to get out of your life long crib and wading pool here in western Nevada County and explore the world. Grow some balls, stiffen the spine, and venture forth to a place you don't know. A place that make you uncomfortable. You will return home a much wiser man. Or you could sit home and read the next Territorial Dispatch and learn everything you need to know.

Paul Emery

Just an assumption Gregory that Flynn cashed out to save his ass by implicating those above him-Kushner the Greaser . Sure, my opinion but just wait and see. It's a realistic speculation.

Paul Emery

Just noticed a mistake I made. My 5:25 should have read " Trump is trying to blame his attorney for the unbelievably stupid tweet that he fired Comey because he lied to the FBI"

Gregory

Paul, you were claiming that everyone, including Breitbart was reporting that Kushner ordered Flynn to lie, when all the reports (including Breitbart) that he was told to contact the Russian, and the rest of the Security Council members, An act of political diplomacy, long after the election. End of December. Absolutely f-ing nothing to do with collusion with Putin about interfering with the election. Remember that? It was what this was all about. The Russia inwestigation, as Ensign Chekov would say.

Paul, why does your imagination run wild?

Todd Juvinall

jon smith | 03 December 2017 at 09:57 PM

Thanks for agreeing you are a moron. We all know the meaning of the word and liberals cannot change that. As far as seeing the world, do it all the time. Seems to me you are the one in the basement in your flannel pumpkin jammies calling for your momma to bring more cheetos. It sure is not me. Anyway, thanks for being the leftwing rep here that shows the readers what a mess you and your fellow liberals make with everything you toch.

Bill Tozer

Well, since the Russian Collusion fakenews House of Cards has unraveled as too easily foreseen and predicted, we are onto obstruction of justice. Was it Trump obstructing justice or is the real story about how the Lefties covered up and covered for for those many among their midst that committec unspeakable predatory acts upon their female suborinates?

Vespucci

Bunch of f'ing idiots can't do tax reform either...you cannot make this stuff up!!!

Corporate donors do not like it. As The Wall Street Journal reports:

The biggest consequence could be the research credit, often used by manufacturers, technology firms and pharmaceutical companies, and the National Association of Manufacturers said it was working with policy makers to address the issue.

Under the credit, companies get money back from the government for what they spend on innovation, often for wages of scientists and engineers. Corporations will claim $10.3 billion in research credits in 2018, according to the congressional Joint Committee on Taxation.

… Murray Energy Corp., an Ohio-based firm and the largest privately held U.S. coal-mining company, complained that the AMT decision and the Senate’s tougher limits on interest deductions made a “mockery out of so-called tax reform.” Robert Murray, the company’s chief executive officer, said the Senate tax plan would raise his company’s tax bill by $60 million.

“What the Senate did, in their befuddled mess, is drove me out of business and then bragged about the fact that they got some tax reform passed,” Mr. Murray said in an interview Sunday. “This is not job creation. This is not stimulating income. This is driving a whole sector of our community into nonexistence.”

Todd Juvinall

Oh my a liberal that uses Wall Street for backup? You cannot make this stuff up.

Vespucci

Juvee, I use valid news sources. You just spew...

Walt

Again Bunbun doesn't supply a link. Another one ripped from Facebook?,, like yesterday?

LIBS know no shame.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/04/pro-doug-jones-super-pac-using-voter-intimidation-tactics-ad-claims-vote-public-record/

Yup voter intimidation is alive and well.

"“If you don’t vote, and Roy Moore – a child predator – wins, could you live with that? Your vote is public record and your community will know whether or not you helped stop Roy Moore,” she said. "

That's not all. These dirtbags of the Left are skirting election laws.
"Little is known about the Highway 31 super PAC given that it has been intentionally set up in a manner that prevents the public from discovering who is funding it.

According to a report from the Daily Beast’s Lachlan Markay, voters won’t know the source of nearly $2 million worth of ads until after the election.

“Super PACs are required to disclose their donors, but the group Highway 31 has structured its spending in a way that campaign-finance experts say is almost unprecedented,” Markay wrote. “While legal, it will have the effect of obscuring the group’s benefactors, who will have financed a series of ads over the last two months of the campaign propping up Jones and hammering his Republican opponent, former State Supreme Court Justice Roy Moore.” "

I do believe the voters see through the Lefty crap, and Moore will win.

a Bill Tozer

Well, there is a lot to not like in the tax bill. The good is the enemy of the best and somebody will feel all butt hurt. Seems to focus on reducing the corporate rate, which is great and if we can get sole proprietors included in the pass through, it will be greater.

Get this. On Nov 30, 2017 I was listening to a local alternative news Popinjay station and they had a segment about how doubling the standard deduction for most folks was going to hurt non-profits. Hypothetically, of course. The agrument goes like this:

People are moved to make donations to organizations like food banks, Salvation Army, Hospice, and a host of non-profits because they be tax deductible. You can write off the used underwear you donated to the Cancer Thrift or Women of Worth like President William “Bilker Bill” Clinton did. Sweet. But, if your standard scuction is doubled and...

A) you now owe no taxes and don’t need no stinkin’ receipt to save for 5 years from Save Our Trails or whoever you took your junk to, or made a tax deductible cash pocket change donation to the cause. Guess folks still write checks and money orders are accepted, but I digress.

B). The doubling of the standard deduction for say, someone who makes 50k/year, has a modest mortgage....well, what they lost in mortgage and local tax deductions, they made up by the doubling, saved record keeping (simplified filing taxes for them) and were compensated for it all by the doubling of the standard deduction.

Thus, people would stop donating to the poor folk who have neither shoes or coats.

So, all this time while listening and being informed, I kept thinking something about the liberal mind Dr. Rebane penned again recently. It was the ole’ (paraphrase) “and the liberals are steadfast in saying taxes do not influence behavior.” Then I remembered the astonishing phenomenon that occurred after the Reagen tax cuts. Donations to non-profits, the arts, libraries, and the Tiny Tim Foundations skyrocketed, soared to new heights and records. Hmmmm.

Trump is giving money to his filthy rich pals and taking away money from the our furry friend at the Soup Kitchen!! It’s a regular war on the poor, hypothetically of course.

Inrobically, later in the evening somebody spinning records reminded the listeners that they are encouraged to make a donation to the ray-dee-ooo station and being a certified right kind of non-profit, all donations are tax deductible as well I just smiled.

PS: Punchy mentioned on air he has a cat. Well, that explains a lot.
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a Bill Tozer

Walt! I finally found your brain bucket hardhat. Miss seeing that adorning your fine manly melon, especially this time of the year.. you lollipop top, you. :)

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Opps, not that one. Sorry big guy. . Here it is.

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Todd Juvinall

Amerigo Vespucci just spews his/her propaganda. Nothing to see at all, just hot air.

Walt

I call this a good start.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/04/former-dem-congresswoman-sentenced-to-five-years-in-prison-on-corruption-charges/
"Former Florida Democratic Rep. Corrine Brown was sentenced to five years in federal prison Monday on number of charges including tax fraud and tax crimes."

See how links work vessi?

Walt

Now I call bullshit!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trust-media-grows-under-trump-amid-partisan-split-151935463.html
They have the balls to print this line of crap right after another big fake "breaking news"?
I doubt Paul would even try and make that stretch.

Don Bessee

Walt @1258- Don't over estimate the po' ol' fakenewsman, he is busily trying to run from all of his failed predictions over the last 18 months. Dow 24,290 another record. ;-)

Don Bessee

NEWS FLASH! SCOTUS ruled 7-2 to put the full travel ban into effect immediately. ;-)

Bill Tozer

My my. This has all the earmarks of the making of a very good week. Wonder who will shit themselves live on the air next. Still laughing about Morning Joe and Amy Goodman straining ever so hard to get out each word in her description of Trump’s extreme......hard far.........ALT.....RIGHT....extremist.........ha....hay.....hat.....het, hhhhhhhhate filled blah.....blah.....bl....blablablaaaaaaa...blahhhh video retweets that drew immediate condemnation from our allies. Gee Wally, I thought she would never get through the sentence. Warmed the cockles of me lightened heart.

https://youtu.be/iZnQPLJi2t4


Biker Bill sez: Yo, Punchy, pull my finger. Burp.

jon smith

Travel ban. Big deal. Won't effect anyone I know. By contrast this will effect every one I know: NEWS FLASH! We just added 1.5 trillion to the National debt! By the time it is paid down it will have cost us taxpayers only about 17 trillion. Maybe Todd and Don believe this is fiscally responsibile (with a tax cut to boot), but I'm scratching my head wondering how this happened when Republicans absolutely own our government.

Walt

Wow, jon,, since when did Lefties concern themselves with debt?
Not a peep when "O" smashed all the records.,,, You know,,, "more than all Presidents combined". And somehow Trump and the Right is supposed to undo all that in one year? Never mind that there was nothing that could be called a budget pretty much the entire time "O" was in office. Just "continuing resolutions".
But keep on with the new bitch. It's a real laugh that somehow the Left found fiscal religion all of a sudden.

Don Bessee

Note to the 'jon', with dynamic scoring the growth in the economy will generate massive increases in tax receipts to more than offset. Now tell us how its not going to grow jobs and is all for the rich. ATT alone said if it passes they will immediately add 7000 jobs that average 80k a year to speed up their 5k network rollout. What's 20% of 6 trillion?? That's the tax windfall from just the corporate cash repatriation, for those who ran out of toes its $1.2 Trillion bucks v the cbo's 1.5T debt. Hell the economy is knocking on 4% growth before the bill takes effect. It sure sounds like the 'jon' does not have any investments or a 401k. ;-)

jon smith

Walt it might (or might not) surprise you to know that I am a certified tightwad with my own finances, the finances of my businesses, and at the voting booth. I am well into the right side of the field when it comes to throwing money at "feel good" bottomless social and many other spendy programs.

Todd Juvinall

jon smith | 04 December 2017 at 01:53 PM

Please stop with the lefty propaganda on the tax reform plan. 1.5 trillion? That is the projected 10-year amount if their is sub three percent GDP. But now that we have a some smart people in charge in DC the debt will be reduced over that time. Why do you liberals think you can get away with your BS?

Todd Juvinall

And never a whimper from jon smith as Obama added 9 trillion. Hypocrites all.

Walt

Good jon,, most people are with their OWN money.(like I said... Most.) Elected LIBS see "our" money as their own. They know how to spent it better than we do.
Now to throw this out there.
http://www.breitbart.com/taxes/2017/12/04/seven-myths-about-the-gop-tax-reform/
MYTH #1: They’re cutting taxes on millionaires while raising them for the middle class and the poor.
FACT: Middle-income Americans are the biggest winners under the tax bill.
MYTH #2: Tax cuts will blow up the budget deficit.
FACT: Budget deficits depend on economic growth, not tax policy.
MYTH #3: Millions will lose health insurance.
FACT: Ending the Individual Mandate does not take insurance away from anyone or make insurance unaffordable.
MYTH #4: Social Security, Medicare, and the social safety-net will get defunded because we cut taxes.
FACT: Tax cuts do not mean any spending falls.
MYTH #5: The bill creates a tax break for private jets.
FACT: The bill simply codifies the existing taxes on jets.
MYTH #6: The bill takes money away from schools and teachers.
FACT: The Senate bill expands the deduction for teachers and increases funding for schools
MYTH #7: The bills will bankrupt graduate students and hurt people with college debt.
FACT: The higher standard deduction makes the student loan deduction irrelevant, and grad students will likely benefit from the change in the way tuition is charged.

Maybe the Left should start telling the truth for a change.

Paul Emery

Wow

Manifort may be denied bail again:

WASHINGTON ― Former Donald Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, while under federal indictment that could send him away to prison for years, recently ghostwrote an op-ed with a Russian with ties to the country’s intelligence services, Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team alleged on Monday.

Manafort, currently on house arrest with an ankle monitor, had reached a proposed bail deal with prosecutors that was awaiting court approval. But Mueller’s team says the court should reject Manafort’s request to modify the conditions of his pre-trial release because he has violated a court order that instructed him and other parties to “refrain from making statements to the media or in public settings that pose a substantial likelihood of material prejudice to this case.”

Mueller’s team allege that Manafort and a colleague were “ghostwriting an editorial in English regarding his political work for Ukraine” as recently as Nov. 30.

Later on the article states Maniforts attorny confirming that the article was written:

"Manafort’s attorney told Mueller’s team that they would take steps to make sure the op-ed wasn’t published, according to the court filing. "


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/paul-manafort-russian-bail-deal_us_5a25c50ae4b086e4e503d1f4?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

Todd Juvinall

It would appear to me the problem for Maifort would be the PUBLICATION of a op-ed. Writing it is not breaking the agreement.

Paul Emery

Writing it with the Russians Todd Why would they write it without the intent to publish?

There was a court order you may recall. Once again according to Mueller:

" the court should reject Manafort’s request to modify the conditions of his pre-trial release because he has violated a court order that instructed him and other parties to “refrain from making statements to the media or in public settings that pose a substantial likelihood of material prejudice to this case.”

Bill Tozer

My my. Manafort is basically under house arrest. Now, kids, for money laundering to occur, one must prove than Manafort and his side kick were trying to hide money derived from a criminal activity. Guess failing to register was a foreign lobbist make breathing a criminal activity and all his piles of cash is dirty money. Blood money. Po folks’ money. At least as how I interpret domestic law. Bet they have a special drug law or something.for foreigners.

The Justice Departmnt or maybe it’s the Treasury that usually sends out notices to those who have not registered (like his business partner John Podesta’s brother fail to do) to encourage folks to come forward and register, please. Friendly reminder notices, like tying a string on your finger. Standard Operating Proceedure....unless you are after Impeachment and not violations of the law going back to 2003, with some no no’s having the statute of limitations expired. You time has xpired, please put another quarter in, Mr. Manafort. Sorry about throwing your wife on the floor and roughing her up a bit. Boys will be boys. She should have wore a less revealing nightie.p in hindsight. Wonder if they found what she was hiding under there. Never know.

Lots of juicy morsels in the news today. Caitlyn, in a tearful press conference earlier, announced that Bruce Jenner had groped her...for many years.

Sen Elizabeth Warren, accompanied by a stunningly beautiful young lady representative from the Cherokee tribe (Oklahoma) walked into a buzzsaw today, eliciting angry and most disrespectful comments from the audience at a conference sponsored by the Bureau of Indian Affairs. Hot mic captured Sen. Warren saying to the Cherokee Princess “looks like we are really under attack”, to which the young Native American replied, “What do you mean ‘we’, paleface.”

Got those from a guy who lives in his van down by the river. It’s a beautiful day.

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